Black & Decker Cordless BL188-GB 18v Li-on Brushless Hammer Drill 52nm torque with 1.5ah battery 2yr warranty Amazon Prime Only
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Black & Decker Cordless BL188-GB 18v Li-on Brushless Hammer Drill 52nm torque with 1.5ah battery 2yr warranty Amazon Prime Only

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Edited by:"jazzuk777"Found 19th Nov
Missed out on the deal for this at Argos - great price for a brushless drill with more torque than most other drills I 've seen other than professional ones at considerably more. Includes one 1.5ah 18v battery plus charger. Snapping one up this time

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It's making a right bloody mess in that picture.

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HotDealKev1 m ago

Prime only


Sorry, not realised - I've updated title.

£66 on eBay

Its B&D, so over priced for what it is, and unreliable to boot. The last time I needed a spare for a B&D drill, the TINY component that failed was priced at more than I paid for the drill - never again.

For less money you can buy a Lidl/Aldi drill with a much longer warranty, better reliability and sold build quality.

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zamribinrazali1 m ago

Same price at argos …Same price at argos http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/6182977.htm?cmpid=APP003


Yes, but crucially out of stock just about everywhere.... or at least it has been for at least 3 weeks or so, unless they've got more in
Edited by: "jazzuk777" 19th Nov

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Gentle_Giant6 m ago

Its B&D, so over priced for what it is, and unreliable to boot. The last …Its B&D, so over priced for what it is, and unreliable to boot. The last time I needed a spare for a B&D drill, the TINY component that failed was priced at more than I paid for the drill - never again.For less money you can buy a Lidl/Aldi drill with a much longer warranty, better reliability and sold build quality.


And about 60% of the torque and not brushless. Reviews on both Argos and Amazon are almost all positive.
Edited by: "jazzuk777" 19th Nov

If the 20% kicks in for Amazon Warehouse, a like new one will be £41 at the moment...

jazzuk77711 m ago

And about 60% of the torque and not brushless. Reviews on both Argos and …And about 60% of the torque and not brushless. Reviews on both Argos and Amazon are almost all positive.



Links to prove the 60% torque statement please.

zamribinrazali31 m ago

Same price at argos …Same price at argos http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/6182977.htm?cmpid=APP003


Are they the same as the torque are different

jazzuk7771 h, 55 m ago

And about 60% of the torque and not brushless. Reviews on both Argos and …And about 60% of the torque and not brushless. Reviews on both Argos and Amazon are almost all positive.



But just look at them; half the 5 star reviews for ANYTHING on Argos/Amazon are "yey!! it has arrived and looks great", or something similar.
Their reviews are nearly as bad as this site, where any old tat gets an upvote if it is cheap, regardless of quality.

My experience of B&D, a £45 hammer drill, the variable speed trigger died, just outside of the warranty, so I contacted B&D, they quoted me £40 + £9.99 P&P for a replacement trigger.
Edited by: "Gentle_Giant" 20th Nov

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Shengis9 h, 43 m ago

Links to prove the 60% torque statement please.


It's already on the deal link for this drill, you can look up the other drills, all the others I can find are 30-40nm, for example at Argos, unless you pay ~£80 plus. The Stanley Fatmax there is 57nm but is £90/95.
Edited by: "jazzuk777" 20th Nov

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Gentle_Giant9 h, 40 m ago

But just look at them; half the 5 star reviews for ANYTHING on …But just look at them; half the 5 star reviews for ANYTHING on Argos/Amazon are "yey!! it has arrived and looks great", or something similar.Their reviews are nearly as bad as this site, where any old tat gets an upvote if it is cheap, regardless of quality.My experience of B&D, a £45 hammer drill, the variable speed trigger died, just outside of the warranty, so I contacted B&D, they quoted me £40 + £9.99 P&P for a replacement trigger.


The*one* single star review on Amazon give no detail whatsoever, whereas there are lots of positive reviews that do say why they liked it. Feel free not to like this deal but it doesn't mean you have anything to back it up other than a dislike of black and decker - which you're entitled to. It being brushless means improved reliability anyway as less to go wrong.

Unless you buy a top level Makita or De Walt or similar I do think it's unreasonable to expect it to be economical to repair, especially at £45. This is not the drill you bought at £45, I'd be willing to bet.
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jazzuk7771 h, 3 m ago

The*one* single star review on Amazon give no detail whatsoever, whereas …The*one* single star review on Amazon give no detail whatsoever, whereas there are lots of positive reviews that do say why they liked it. Feel free not to like this deal but it doesn't mean you have anything to back it up other than a dislike of black and decker - which you're entitled to. It being brushes means improved reliability anyway as less to go wrong. Unlessyou buy a top level Makita or De Walt or similar I do think it's unreasonable to expect it to be economical to repair, especially at £45. This is not the drill you bought at £45, I'd be willing to bet.



I understand what you are saying, and no, this isnt the drill I bought; but you have to understand that most of these reviews are posted within a few days of receiving the item; very few people come back months later to give a better idea of how reliable something has been.
My step father is an ardent B&D fan, even though he usually ends up having to replace their tat every other year because something has broken.

As for repairs, B&D are built to fail; I took that trigger unit apart to try and fix it my self, and it was a tiny sliver of plastic that had broken, where a ball bearing presses on it to activate the trigger, however the plastic was shaped in a way I couldnt replicate or repair.
I have had similar experiences with Bosh, although at least with them, the cruddiness varies from year to year; my current Bosh drill is a solid piece of kit, but others have had the hammer action on/off break in less than a year due to the fact they were using soft plastics that wore out quickly.

In contrast, my experiences with Lidls finest is that they last for years; I wouldnt own a Bosch right now if Lidl had their Powerfix cordless drill on sale the week the old one finally died - after 7 years of hard use, including 2 drops off of the roof onto concrete.

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Gentle_Giant50 m ago

I understand what you are saying, and no, this isnt the drill I bought; …I understand what you are saying, and no, this isnt the drill I bought; but you have to understand that most of these reviews are posted within a few days of receiving the item; very few people come back months later to give a better idea of how reliable something has been.My step father is an ardent B&D fan, even though he usually ends up having to replace their tat every other year because something has broken.As for repairs, B&D are built to fail; I took that trigger unit apart to try and fix it my self, and it was a tiny sliver of plastic that had broken, where a ball bearing presses on it to activate the trigger, however the plastic was shaped in a way I couldnt replicate or repair.I have had similar experiences with Bosh, although at least with them, the cruddiness varies from year to year; my current Bosh drill is a solid piece of kit, but others have had the hammer action on/off break in less than a year due to the fact they were using soft plastics that wore out quickly.In contrast, my experiences with Lidls finest is that they last for years; I wouldnt own a Bosch right now if Lidl had their Powerfix cordless drill on sale the week the old one finally died - after 7 years of hard use, including 2 drops off of the roof onto concrete.


Fair enough - I think this is a good deal for the torque:price ratio (my old Ryobi twin-set just doesn't have much grunt and it's ni-cad batteries on penultimate gasp) and the fact it's brushless - reliability obviously remains to be seen, but I think people who do have an unsatisfactory experience often do go back to review items, I know I do and have done on several items lately.

For me, and specifically at this price, it's worth it, especially as I have a cordless B&D hedge trimmer so already have a spare charger and battery in effect. Fingers crossed it lasts, there's always an element of luck in that, so we shall see.
Edited by: "jazzuk777" 20th Nov

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cruncher7511 h, 9 m ago

Are they the same as the torque are different


Probably Argos being shoddy with their product details - you seem to see a lot of that mentioned on HUKD. Here is the official spec for the OP drill on the B&D site blackanddecker.co.uk/en-…188. IIRC I don't think Argos mention which model their drill is, but by elimination from the B&D site, pretty sure it has to be this one too.

DrDoolittle15 h, 4 m ago

It's making a right bloody mess in that picture.

Oh, change the picture so I look crackers!

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DrDoolittle16 m ago

Oh, change the picture so I look crackers!


Haha - I didn't choose the picture HUKD did, I put one up that showed the drill better...

heat added. Just ordered one. Thanks for posting the deal.

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Gentle_Giant8 h, 9 m ago

I understand what you are saying, and no, this isnt the drill I bought; …I understand what you are saying, and no, this isnt the drill I bought; but you have to understand that most of these reviews are posted within a few days of receiving the item; very few people come back months later to give a better idea of how reliable something has been.My step father is an ardent B&D fan, even though he usually ends up having to replace their tat every other year because something has broken.As for repairs, B&D are built to fail; I took that trigger unit apart to try and fix it my self, and it was a tiny sliver of plastic that had broken, where a ball bearing presses on it to activate the trigger, however the plastic was shaped in a way I couldnt replicate or repair.I have had similar experiences with Bosh, although at least with them, the cruddiness varies from year to year; my current Bosh drill is a solid piece of kit, but others have had the hammer action on/off break in less than a year due to the fact they were using soft plastics that wore out quickly.In contrast, my experiences with Lidls finest is that they last for years; I wouldnt own a Bosch right now if Lidl had their Powerfix cordless drill on sale the week the old one finally died - after 7 years of hard use, including 2 drops off of the roof onto concrete.


Mine's just arrived, it has a 2 year warranty it says, I don't think that's bad for ~£55.
Edited by: "jazzuk777" 20th Nov
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