BLU VIVO 6 4G LTE SIM-Free phone (64 GB and 4 GB RAM) - Gold or Rose Gold £239.99 to £184.99 Amazon
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BLU VIVO 6 4G LTE SIM-Free phone (64 GB and 4 GB RAM) - Gold or Rose Gold £239.99 to £184.99 Amazon

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Found 10th Feb
Disappointing colour scheme imo, but great price for what you get-lowest ever.

About this item
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Full body metal design, 5.5 inch full HD curved display and corning gorilla glass 3

13 MP Sony IMX258 with PDAF and Laser Autofocus and 8 MP front camera

MediaTek Helio P10 64-Bit 1.8GHz Octa Core processor, 64 GB internal memory 4 GB RAM and Micro SD up to 64GB

Fingerprint Sensor and Security supported; Equipped with 3,130 mAh Battery and DTS Surround Sound

4G LTE/FDD(1/3/7/8/20) ,4G LTE TDD(38/39/40/41), 3G (900/1900/2100):

Compatible with carries including Vodafone, O2, EE, T-mobile, Three, giffgaff, Labara, CTExcelbiz, Lyca and Talk home Mobile

35 Comments

the problem with these Chinese phones are the banking apps doesn't work. specially barclays... I don't know about others....

P10 can be had on the Sony Xperia XA for £79.99 perfect condition direct from o2 when they get stock back in.
This is a bit better elsewhere spec-wise but not worth 2x the price if value for money is your end game.
Interesting phone though thanks for posting, especially that Amazon are selling so no stress if it goes wrong.

singhisking68

the problem with these Chinese phones are the banking apps doesn't work. … the problem with these Chinese phones are the banking apps doesn't work. specially barclays... I don't know about others....



​Why wouldn't the banking apps work on them?

singhisking68

the problem with these Chinese phones are the banking apps doesn't work. … the problem with these Chinese phones are the banking apps doesn't work. specially barclays... I don't know about others....



This is an American brand...

Original Poster

singhisking68

the problem with these Chinese phones are the banking apps doesn't work. … the problem with these Chinese phones are the banking apps doesn't work. specially barclays... I don't know about others....



chargreaves

This is an American brand...



I think you're both right, it's an American brand and the phones are designed there- but they're made in China.

Can't see why banking apps wouldn't work on them though? Pretty standard android fare I'd think..

Lenovo p2 is £200+£10 top up better choice

I bought the Wileyfox Swift 2 Plus - Barclays banking app works fine. Very happy with it.

escortboy

P10 can be had on the Sony Xperia XA for £79.99 perfect condition direct … P10 can be had on the Sony Xperia XA for £79.99 perfect condition direct from o2 when they get stock back in.This is a bit better elsewhere spec-wise but not worth 2x the price if value for money is your end game.Interesting phone though thanks for posting, especially that Amazon are selling so no stress if it goes wrong.


They had stock back in for the xa but have uped the price to 130 (yes like new)

B_T

I bought the Wileyfox Swift 2 Plus - Barclays banking app works fine. … I bought the Wileyfox Swift 2 Plus - Barclays banking app works fine. Very happy with it.



yeah I got the XA myself for £79 , was new with stickers on arrival , but unfortunately returning as Sony no longer implement the ANT+ channel (a reliable and quick sports accessories connectivity channel -alternative to the sometimes flaky bluetooth connections)
Now need to find a phone with ANT+ but yes the XA's nice esp with that edge2edge glass display

singhisking68

the problem with these Chinese phones are the banking apps doesn't work. … the problem with these Chinese phones are the banking apps doesn't work. specially barclays... I don't know about others....


Just for info - Halifax banking app working fine on Ulefone Power

SweeneyUK

​Why wouldn't the banking apps work on them?



first when I installed barclays banking app on chinese phone​, the error keep coming like DEVICE NOT ROOTED or DEVICE ROOTED something..... don't remember. I spoken to the barclays mobile banking team. explain them the problem and the error message then they come back to me saying that for security purposes barclays banking app only works/recognise on certain phones with their processor.... as their banking apps are design to certain processors inside the phone. then I sold that Chinese phone and bought genuine Samsung note 4 UK version simfree after that I never look back.....

singhisking68

first when I installed barclays banking app on chinese phone​, the error k … first when I installed barclays banking app on chinese phone​, the error keep coming like DEVICE NOT ROOTED or DEVICE ROOTED something..... don't remember.



Looks like a secondhand phone that was rooted & a custom rom was installed, hence the problem. Very much doubt it had anything to do with the processor.

singhisking68

first when I installed barclays banking app on chinese phone​, the error k … first when I installed barclays banking app on chinese phone​, the error keep coming like DEVICE NOT ROOTED or DEVICE ROOTED something..... don't remember. I spoken to the barclays mobile banking team. explain them the problem and the error message then they come back to me saying that for security purposes barclays banking app only works/recognise on certain phones with their processor.... as their banking apps are design to certain processors inside the phone. then I sold that Chinese phone and bought genuine Samsung note 4 UK version simfree after that I never look back.....



This is my favourite description of anything ever.

montecatini

Just for info - Halifax banking app working fine on Ulefone Power


Halifax banking app works great on Doogee F7.

A bit off topic , anyone know of any china phones that support ANT+ feature mentioned above please?

If you don't mind running the ANT Tester app available here from the playstore. The APP detects if the handset has the ANT+ chip built into the phone.

Cheers 1 and all!

singhisking68

the problem with these Chinese phones are the banking apps doesn't work. … the problem with these Chinese phones are the banking apps doesn't work. specially barclays... I don't know about others....

chargreaves

This is an American brand...



Banking apps won't work if the device is rooted / jailbroken or the App Store / play store is linked to another country. Should be alright if no one has turned the phone on before.

Original Poster


H0lySm0kes

Banking apps won't work if the device is rooted / jailbroken or the App … Banking apps won't work if the device is rooted / jailbroken or the App Store / play store is linked to another country. Should be alright if no one has turned the phone on before.



Thanks, didn't know that, every day's a school day..

mynameisthehulk

This is my favourite description of anything ever.



​English is my second language, so it won't be 100% correct..... truth is truth.... can't hide it or lied.....

My rooted ulefone power works with HSBC app I think it's the security the app uses rather than the device information,

Decent specs and amazon is a plus, I would have gone for it if it had a bigger battery

bro631

Lenovo p2 is £200+£10 top up better choice



there's a well known sync bug with the P2 and any streaming service like youtube, was a deal-breaker for me

danny1975

My rooted ulefone power works with HSBC app I think it's the security the … My rooted ulefone power works with HSBC app I think it's the security the app uses rather than the device information,



It's basically how a bank assesses the risk of rooted or jailbroken devices (I work for one of them on the app)

darklight

A bit off topic , anyone know of any china phones that support ANT+ … A bit off topic , anyone know of any china phones that support ANT+ feature mentioned above please?If you don't mind running the ANT Tester app available here from the playstore. The APP detects if the handset has the ANT+ chip built into the phone.Cheers 1 and all!



Result for Ulefone Power (hopefully screenshot displayed below) - absolutely no idea what it means or what it's for but hopefully makes sense to you. In return would appreciate any enlightenment, every day's a school day.

http://i64.tinypic.com/5lt3qs.png
Edited by: "montecatini" 10th Feb

H0lySm0kes

It's basically how a bank assesses the risk of rooted or jailbroken … It's basically how a bank assesses the risk of rooted or jailbroken devices (I work for one of them on the app)



​Why is banksters bothered about a rooted phone? Does lucky patcher give me unlimited moneys on my app or something? Why they so afraid of root?

bankerscum

​Why is banksters bothered about a rooted phone? Does lucky patcher give … ​Why is banksters bothered about a rooted phone? Does lucky patcher give me unlimited moneys on my app or something? Why they so afraid of root?



Rooting a phone can disable security features of said phone. I don't know too much about rooted phones to be honest but what I do know is that every bank would've done a risk assessment on it and decided either way. I know some banks did originally allow rooted phones but have then changed their mind, to the major annoyance of some customers as (I believe) once a phone is rooted it will always show that way....meaning customers could never use the app on that phone

montecatini

Result for Ulefone Power (hopefully screenshot displayed below) - … Result for Ulefone Power (hopefully screenshot displayed below) - absolutely no idea what it means or what it's for but hopefully makes sense to you. In return would appreciate any enlightenment, every day's a school day.



montecatini, hey thank you very much for taking the trouble to run the ANT+ app test & posting the result ...appreciated!!
yes the app will run on your phone but because the ANT Hal isn't built into your handset I'd need to use a micro usb ANT adapter. I do a lot of speed ladder and other agility stuff so an ANT stub plugged into the micro usb port is likely to get bent and broken . But hey thanks again. I'm after an handset that reports Yes for Built-in ANT detected

p.s most fitness accessories , power meters, heart rate monitors , hustle sensors ( like the adidas micoach) connect to phones via bluetooth, other devices such as handsfree kits and smart scales and many more also hook up via bluetooth. Bluetooth is great but doesn't always jive with all these accessories , so for instance I could be out doing an 8km run when my heart rate monitor borks..and there I am stood for 10 mins in the cold adjusting the strap every which way and rebooting the handset hoping the chest strap will connect with the phone again.
ANT is almost like bluetooth but it's not, it only connects wireless sports accessories using the ANT+(antplus) protocol rather than the bluetooth protocol. so connections are dedicated , quick and rock solid . Garmin /Mio /Bryton have used ANT+ on their bike computers and heart rate monitors in the past and to be honest I prefer ANT as the connections instant , you don't even have to turn on bluetooth . ANT used to be available on all Sony handsets( from the cheapest to the most expensive). SOny don't seen to have ANT HAL on their latest handsets . Samsung a few years ago introduced ANT into their handsets..so the likes of the S6 & S7 natively support ANT without having to resort to turning Bluetooth. I had the first WIleyfox model which also supported ANT. I don't believe the new Wileyfoxes do.
Most of my devices are dual ANT/Bluetooth so I can connect any number of ways.for instance to my Mio headunit and also the the phone from the same Heartrate strap simultaneously when I do my Saturday 50km early morn ride around the capital. For the frequency of my workouts and the level of reliability expected bluetooth is pants ..Never had/have trouble with ANT compatible devices . My current LG Stylus2 is not ANT enabled hence the search for China alternative.
Dunno if I have enlightened you reasonably enough or confused you even more.
Apologies if if it's the latter.
Many thanks again

pps: the ANT usb service , ANT radio plugins and the other ANT plugins are downloads to enable the ANT Hardware Abstraction Layer to be able to "talk to" and make sense of the info the phone picks up from the Heart rate monitor
Some phones have ANT HAL capabilities but all (most) manufactures never ever mention it in their specs.
Without the ANT HAL builtin, the aforementioned plugin downloads are useless without an external Micro-USB stick

darklight

montecatini, hey thank you very much for taking the trouble to run the … montecatini, hey thank you very much for taking the trouble to run the ANT+ app test & posting the result ...appreciated!!yes the app will run on your phone but because the ANT Hal isn't built into your handset I'd need to use a micro usb ANT adapter. I do a lot of speed ladder and other agility stuff so an ANT stub plugged into the micro usb port is likely to get bent and broken . But hey thanks again. I'm after an handset that reports Yes for Built-in ANT detectedp.s most fitness accessories , power meters, heart rate monitors , hustle sensors ( like the adidas micoach) connect to phones via bluetooth, other devices such as handsfree kits and smart scales and many more also hook up via bluetooth. Bluetooth is great but doesn't always jive with all these accessories , so for instance I could be out doing an 8km run when my heart rate monitor borks..and there I am stood for 10 mins in the cold adjusting the strap every which way and rebooting the handset hoping the chest strap will connect with the phone again.ANT is almost like bluetooth but it's not, it only connects wireless sports accessories using the ANT+(antplus) protocol rather than the bluetooth protocol. so connections are dedicated , quick and rock solid . Garmin /Mio /Bryton have used ANT+ on their bike computers and heart rate monitors in the past and to be honest I prefer ANT as the connections instant , you don't even have to turn on bluetooth . ANT used to be available on all Sony handsets( from the cheapest to the most expensive). SOny don't seen to have ANT HAL on their latest handsets . Samsung a few years ago introduced ANT into their handsets..so the likes of the S6 & S7 natively support ANT without having to resort to turning Bluetooth. I had the first WIleyfox model which also supported ANT. I don't believe the new Wileyfoxes do.Most of my devices are dual ANT/Bluetooth so I can connect any number of ways.for instance to my Mio headunit and also the the phone from the same Heartrate strap simultaneously when I do my Saturday 50km early morn ride around the capital. For the frequency of my workouts and the level of reliability expected bluetooth is pants ..Never had/have trouble with ANT compatible devices . My current LG Stylus2 is not ANT enabled hence the search for China alternative. Dunno if I have enlightened you reasonably enough or confused you even more. Apologies if if it's the latter.Many thanks again



No definitely the former thanks, really interesting stuff. I'm "planning" a weight loss/fitness push this year, lost weight few years ago and crept back on. I know tech won't sort it on its own but it does add an extra interesting dimension.

FYI I'll run the ANT test app on the Sony Xperia Z5 compact that I'm replacing with this Ulefone and let you know results.

darklight

montecatini, hey thank you very much for taking the trouble to run the … montecatini, hey thank you very much for taking the trouble to run the ANT+ app test & posting the result ...appreciated!!yes the app will run on your phone but because the ANT Hal isn't built into your handset I'd need to use a micro usb ANT adapter. I do a lot of speed ladder and other agility stuff so an ANT stub plugged into the micro usb port is likely to get bent and broken . But hey thanks again. I'm after an handset that reports Yes for Built-in ANT detectedp.s most fitness accessories , power meters, heart rate monitors , hustle sensors ( like the adidas micoach) connect to phones via bluetooth, other devices such as handsfree kits and smart scales and many more also hook up via bluetooth. Bluetooth is great but doesn't always jive with all these accessories , so for instance I could be out doing an 8km run when my heart rate monitor borks..and there I am stood for 10 mins in the cold adjusting the strap every which way and rebooting the handset hoping the chest strap will connect with the phone again.ANT is almost like bluetooth but it's not, it only connects wireless sports accessories using the ANT+(antplus) protocol rather than the bluetooth protocol. so connections are dedicated , quick and rock solid . Garmin /Mio /Bryton have used ANT+ on their bike computers and heart rate monitors in the past and to be honest I prefer ANT as the connections instant , you don't even have to turn on bluetooth . ANT used to be available on all Sony handsets( from the cheapest to the most expensive). SOny don't seen to have ANT HAL on their latest handsets . Samsung a few years ago introduced ANT into their handsets..so the likes of the S6 & S7 natively support ANT without having to resort to turning Bluetooth. I had the first WIleyfox model which also supported ANT. I don't believe the new Wileyfoxes do.Most of my devices are dual ANT/Bluetooth so I can connect any number of ways.for instance to my Mio headunit and also the the phone from the same Heartrate strap simultaneously when I do my Saturday 50km early morn ride around the capital. For the frequency of my workouts and the level of reliability expected bluetooth is pants ..Never had/have trouble with ANT compatible devices . My current LG Stylus2 is not ANT enabled hence the search for China alternative. Dunno if I have enlightened you reasonably enough or confused you even more. Apologies if if it's the latter.Many thanks again




Just FYI results hopefully below from my Z5 Compact:


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Edited by: "portreekid" 11th Feb

yay montecatini . thanks for that , I'm not surprised about the Z5's ANT+ , as the legacy devices pretty much all have ANT+ built in . It's the latest machines that let the side down. . The XA and the XA ultra are designated as ANT capable ( the qualification for this status though is with a microusb ANT stick). There is even an ANT stick for Apple machines. As I said though I prefer it built in especially for what I do. I'm almost 50 but going on 15. I've always been active ...I run , do 10km round trip walks to/from work ,ride MTB trials burpees ,scorpion kicks , supermans , mountainclimbers, mess around on Parralletes and powerbars , and Agility ladders , boulder training , spiderman crawl, do suspension training and skip rope & I always use a heart rate monitor. If you notice none of the stuff I do is in indoor gyms.. I believe in functional strength (although my kid bro disagrees) and use what's around me .. Thus being able to dash across a street , clamber over a fence ) break fall , roll is more important to me than being able to lift 100kg or whatever it is that gets lifted by gym enthusiasts lying on their backs. In my humble opinion when am I going to need to lie on my back and push up all that weight , there is a counter argument but it doesnt work for me A lot of gym goes are functionally srong but couldnt run 100 yards . Usually you build strength with bulk and end up sacrificing agility.
Agility ( speed) with strength ( weight / bulk) are diffic to maintain together at the same level.. Bruce Lee had it down to a T , he was very strong but also very quick. and this is what I strive to maintain daily. Street sports works for me. Don't get me wrong please . I do use kettlebells due to their unbalanced ( offset weight) and do turkish getups/ getdowns with a 28kg kettle. I also have a bulgarian bag (16kg powerwave) but yes all the workouts are geared toward agility without sacrificing power and would probably come under the street sports umbrella. I take it all a bit too seriously hence my yearning for a heart rate monitor that works when I want it to
Anyway to cut a long story short I train in various heart rate zones aerobic . anaerobic & flat out
A 45 min session with my HR monitor would prob yield better metric returns than someone going in the gym for 2 hours and taking the scattergun approach as at any point during my regimem I know what's happening with my metabolism
so for instance this evening after work I did a pure fatburn non stop skipping rope for 30+ min. With a heart rate monitor you can optimise you training zone . thus because I simply wanted to do a fat burn efficiently I stayed within 60-70% of the heart rate zone max for theoretical max for my age , I listen out for regular audio visual feedback and ramp up skipping effort if my HR begins to fall below 135 bpm and ease off if I begin to rise above 145bpm as any higher and I'd be going anaerobic and the fatburn efficiency would drop off . ..have a look below at my metrics and you'll notice that for 75% of my continuous nonstop 34 mins skipping session I stayed withing the body fat burn zone ( the blue section of the bar chart)..Highly efficient results. My body fat is under 20% ( I use a Lidl Sanitas smart scale to measure this..while not 100% accurate it works from a reference baseline) I don't always do fat burns sometimes I go anaerobic with for example fartleks on a local steep hill ( Eglington)
Anyway hoping I've not come across as showing off or anything, just trying to put across the immense benefits of heart rate training but to cap I weigh 15½ stone , very little of which is fat , am quite strong and can move fast despite the bulk.
I'll see you around.
Ciao

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Edited by: "darklight" 12th Feb

darklight

yay montecatini . thanks for that , I'm not surprised about the Z5's ANT+ … yay montecatini . thanks for that , I'm not surprised about the Z5's ANT+ , as the legacy devices pretty much all have ANT+ built in . It's the latest machines that let the side down. . The XA and the XA ultra are designated as ANT capable ( the qualification for this status though is with a microusb ANT stick). There is even an ANT stick for Apple machines. As I said though I prefer it built in especially for what I do. I'm almost 50 but going on 15. I've always been active ...I run , do 10km round trip walks to/from work ,ride MTB trials burpees ,scorpion kicks , supermans , mountainclimbers, mess around on Parralletes and powerbars , and Agility ladders , boulder training , spiderman crawl, do suspension training and skip rope & I always use a heart rate monitor. If you notice none of the stuff I do is in indoor gyms.. I believe in functional strength (although my kid bro disagrees) and use what's around me .. Thus being able to dash across a street , clamber over a fence ) break fall , roll is more important to me than being able to lift 100kg or whatever it is that gets lifted by gym enthusiasts lying on their backs. In my humble opinion when am I going to need to lie on my back and push up all that weight , there is a counter argument but it doesnt work for me A lot of gym goes are functionally srong but couldnt run 100 yards . Usually you build strength with bulk and end up sacrificing agility. Agility ( speed) with strength ( weight / bulk) are diffic to maintain together at the same level.. Bruce Lee had it down to a T , he was very strong but also very quick. and this is what I strive to maintain daily. Street sports works for me. Don't get me wrong please . I do use kettlebells due to their unbalanced ( offset weight) and do turkish getups/ getdowns with a 28kg kettle. I also have a bulgarian bag (16kg powerwave) but yes all the workouts are geared toward agility without sacrificing power and would probably come under the street sports umbrella. I take it all a bit too seriously hence my yearning for a heart rate monitor that works when I want it toAnyway to cut a long story short I train in various heart rate zones aerobic . anaerobic & flat outA 45 min session with my HR monitor would prob yield better metric returns than someone going in the gym for 2 hours and taking the scattergun approach as at any point during my regimem I know what's happening with my metabolismso for instance this evening after work I did a pure fatburn non stop skipping rope for 30+ min. With a heart rate monitor you can optimise you training zone . thus because I simply wanted to do a fat burn efficiently I stayed within 60-70% of the heart rate zone max for theoretical max for my age , I listen out for regular audio visual feedback and ramp up skipping effort if my HR begins to fall below 135 bpm and ease off if I begin to rise above 145bpm as any higher and I'd be going anaerobic and the fatburn efficiency would drop off . ..have a look below at my metrics and you'll notice that for 75% of my continuous nonstop 34 mins skipping session I stayed withing the body fat burn zone ( the blue section of the bar chart)..Highly efficient results. My body fat is under 20% ( I use a Lidl Sanitas smart scale to measure this..while not 100% accurate it works from a reference baseline) I don't always do fat burns sometimes I go anaerobic with for example fartleks on a local steep hill ( Eglington)Anyway hoping I've not come across as showing off or anything, just trying to put across the immense benefits of heart rate training but to cap I weigh 15½ stone , very little of which is fat , am quite strong and can move fast despite the bulk. I'll see you around.Ciao



Apologies to OP for continuing off-topic a bit, voted hot for the deal anyway....

But Holy smoke Darklight, I felt lazy enough before having read that, but now at a whole new level
One thing's clear my Endomondo app has been having a much easier time than yours

Fascinating stuff and although I'm harbouring perhaps more modest aspirations at this stage I'm actually quite inspired to look into this further and from slightly different perspective.

Lost over 3 stone few years back but crept back on, renewed incentive and from what started as a post on a mobile phone deal!

Never saw that coming!

Thanks for all the information, really insightful.

All the best

Edited by: "montecatini" 13th Feb

montecatini

Apologies to OP for continuing off-topic a bit, voted hot for the deal … Apologies to OP for continuing off-topic a bit, voted hot for the deal anyway....But Holy smoke Darklight, I felt lazy enough before having read that, but now at a whole new levelOne thing's clear my Endomondo app has been having a much easier time than yoursFascinating stuff and although I'm harbouring perhaps more modest aspirations at this stage I'm actually quite inspired to look into this further and from slightly different perspective. Lost over 3 stone few years back but crept back on, renewed incentive and from what started as a post on a mobile phone deal!Never saw that coming! Thanks for all the information, really insightful. All the best



Affirmative Montecatini, no thanks necessary, glad to share, been good to chat & thanks for your help ,
popped into CPW during a lull at work today and tried a few phones, struck lucky with the ZTE Axon Mini & yes's to all the ANT Tester app tests. The handset does have a nice AMOLED display so might get it..£249 payg but going to have a scratch around the web tonight to see if I can't get it it cheaper
Anyway all the best in your fitness come back. Always remember "Health is the greatest wealth"- Gandhi

p.s: Mdmkm , please accept my apologies too for hijacking your thread , ciao

Original Poster

Ha! Thanks for your consideration, but no apologies required!

B_T

I bought the Wileyfox Swift 2 Plus - Barclays banking app works fine. … I bought the Wileyfox Swift 2 Plus - Barclays banking app works fine. Very happy with it.

darklight

A bit off topic , anyone know of any china phones that support ANT+ … A bit off topic , anyone know of any china phones that support ANT+ feature mentioned above please?If you don't mind running the ANT Tester app available here from the playstore. The APP detects if the handset has the ANT+ chip built into the phone.Cheers 1 and all!



Never heard of this ...



Thanx for that also. :-)

Not sure why this deal is expired - it's even 179.99 as I write this! - or why the comments are about as off-topic as you can possibly get on HUKD, but I bought this phone in gold on launch day back in Nov 2016, so I thought I'd actually, you know, mention the phone itself :-)

Pros: Looks nice (shiny metal looks better than black, IMHO), excellent fingerprint scanner (doesn't work if you've just eaten crisps though!), plenty of storage, decent performance, good display, relatively stock Android (install Nova Launcher to bring it closer), loud speaker.

Cons: Zero updates (still stuck on Android 6 with Sep 2016 security update), no NFC (I never use it, but some might do), average battery life, not waterproof.

Rumours are that the Blu Vivo 8 might be out soon (appeared briefly on Amazon US then disappeared), with a bigger capacity battery and Android 7 to fix a couple of the cons (still no NFC or waterproofing though). Overall, a good phone, but the lack of updates across the entire Blu range is a major concern (witness Blu's Facebook page where they've been claiming throughout 2017 that updates have been coming, but nothing's turned up).
Edited by: "rkl" 20th Aug
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