BMW i3 94ah £204p/m (inc VAT) 9+23 + £230admin = £6728 (6000miles p/a) over 2 yr @ Whitewater Contract Hire
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BMW i3 94ah £204p/m (inc VAT) 9+23 + £230admin = £6728 (6000miles p/a) over 2 yr @ Whitewater Contract Hire

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Found 16th Jun 2016
OK, this is definitely not for everyone.........but if you fancy a quality electric vehicle, with the new larger capacity 94ah battery.......at one of the cheapest lease payments it has ever been offered, read on

£204p/m (inc VAT) 9+23 + £230
admin = £6728 (6000miles p/a) over 2
REx range extender (built in petrol generator) +£10p/m
10000 miles +£10p/m

loads more variations of downpayment v monthly payment and other milages on site. As I said, not for the lease haters or EV pessimists - but a genuinely good deal IMHO.

PS: this particular offer comes with metallic paint included (normally a £600 option.)
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Had our i3 for 6 months now. Love it, best car we have had.


£1.59 for a full charge at home (80-100miles) £25pm electric.
£159 car insurance a year.
Free road tax.
Congestion charge free.
Free parking and charging in council car parks.
Free CCS fast chargers on the motorway 80% in 20 mins.
0-60 in 6.5 for the BEV (Official 0-62 in 7.2)

A quick, quiet and cheap to run car!

P.S
No range anxiety here
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You should also save on fuel of course! PS I have ordered one myself

Over 56p per mile + electricity + cost of any scrapes and damage. Range anxiety.
Is it true the car has a design fault with doors. Back passengers cannot get out easily.
What about charging? With Tesla I know you have to buy a charging station and have a 3rd party install it
stuellis

What about charging? With Tesla I know you have to buy a charging station … What about charging? With Tesla I know you have to buy a charging station and have a 3rd party install it



Plug it into any socket in your house overnight, or buy a fast charger socket for a couple of hundred quid.
Common Sense

Over 56p per mile + electricity + cost of any scrapes and damage. Range … Over 56p per mile + electricity + cost of any scrapes and damage. Range anxiety.Is it true the car has a design fault with doors. Back passengers cannot get out easily.



The REx version has a built in petrol electricity generator for an extra 80miles when needed (just top up when needed) But I agree, the car is not really for mega miles - but for 98% of the time, it will be enough for me - not for everyone though.
sicourt

Plug it into any socket in your house overnight, or buy a fast charger … Plug it into any socket in your house overnight, or buy a fast charger socket for a couple of hundred quid.


So throw a cable out the window? That sound sounds safe and energy efficient for your central heating. So you need to add a charging station to the cost
sicourt

The REx version has a built in petrol electricity generator for an extra … The REx version has a built in petrol electricity generator for an extra 80miles when needed (just top up when needed) But I agree, the car is not really for mega miles - but for 98% of the time, it will be enough for me - not for everyone though.



My sister purchased one. But there is a design issue with the rear doors.
There is no getting around the fact that rear seat passengers are somewhat trapped back there, at the mercy of the front doors. In that sense, the i3 isn't a four-door at all, but a two-door, in which the back seat passengers don't have independent ingress/egress.
stuellis

So throw a cable out the window? That sound sounds safe and energy … So throw a cable out the window? That sound sounds safe and energy efficient for your central heating. So you need to add a charging station to the cost



Or a standard waterproof outside socket, or a socket already in you garage (etc.) Perhaps £50. Not everyone's house will be able to do this, or if you live in a flat, or park on the road - but as I said, not for everyone.
Common Sense

My sister purchased one. But there is a design issue with the rear … My sister purchased one. But there is a design issue with the rear doors.There is no getting around the fact that rear seat passengers are somewhat trapped back there, at the mercy of the front doors. In that sense, the i3 isn't a four-door at all, but a two-door, in which the back seat passengers don't have independent ingress/egress.



Agree with you totally, it is a 3 door car, with wider opening doors not a 5 door.
Had our i3 for 6 months now. Love it, best car we have had.


£1.59 for a full charge at home (80-100miles) £25pm electric.
£159 car insurance a year.
Free road tax.
Congestion charge free.
Free parking and charging in council car parks.
Free CCS fast chargers on the motorway 80% in 20 mins.
0-60 in 6.5 for the BEV (Official 0-62 in 7.2)

A quick, quiet and cheap to run car!

P.S
No range anxiety here
stuellis

So throw a cable out the window? That sound sounds safe and energy … So throw a cable out the window? That sound sounds safe and energy efficient for your central heating. So you need to add a charging station to the cost



Well for the cheapest option best to not charge it at home (unless you have spare electric from renewables) so using free chargers or charging at work is going to be cheaper.
releaseyourself

No range anxiety here



Any idea on depreciation for those who buy? I read extra depreciation > fuel saving.

At 6000 miles a year diesel cost would be around £50 a month and excise duty of £0-20 a year is common.
My BMW is £20 a year.
The savings are not so great and no range anxiety for long distances. I'm about to fill up after 600 miles.
For Londoner's zero congestion charge is good. For the rest, it's just free parking benefits.
I've been running an i3 now for two years and have no issue with the rear doors. Yes you have to work them in a different way, but can't see the fuss. If I didn't have one already I'd be all over this.
GAVINLEWISHUKD

Well for the cheapest option best to not charge it at home (unless you … Well for the cheapest option best to not charge it at home (unless you have spare electric from renewables) so using free chargers or charging at work is going to be cheaper.


I was talking to one of the guys at the Tesla shop in Bluewater, he was saying those fast charging stations in public car parks such as those in Bluewater were only recommended for 1 in 10 charges max as they are not as good for the battery and actually shorten its lifespan.
Sell Me

I've been running an i3 now for two years and have no issue with the rear … I've been running an i3 now for two years and have no issue with the rear doors. Yes you have to work them in a different way, but can't see the fuss. If I didn't have one already I'd be all over this.



So what is the actual situation? Is it a back passenger cannot get out unless a front door is open? This is what I was told. I could not believe it. I laughed. I thought it was a wind up. What a design fault, if true. It's like buying a 2 door car.

Effectively, it a 2 door car and has only 4 seats. One seat missing and 2 doors missing! Cannot compare to a 4 door 5 seat car.


stuellis

I was talking to one of the guys at the Tesla shop in Bluewater, he was … I was talking to one of the guys at the Tesla shop in Bluewater, he was saying those fast charging stations in public car parks such as those in Bluewater were only recommended for 1 in 10 charges max as they are not as good for the battery and actually shorten its lifespan.


Very, very true......Fast chargers ruin your battery so best slow charge more often to avoid damage.

I've owned a plug in hybrid for 3 months now and had experience of green cars for over 1 year.

One thing that really bothers me in the UK, the instructions state 'never unplug during thunderstorms to avoid electric shock or damage to your vehicle' - oh and many stories about plug getting stuck after charging, this is the future of motoring haha!!


Edited by: "Billythebubble" 16th Jun 2016
Double your range with this
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Common Sense

So what is the actual situation? Is it a back passenger cannot get out … So what is the actual situation? Is it a back passenger cannot get out unless a front door is open? This is what I was told. I could not believe it. I laughed. I thought it was a wind up. What a design fault, if true. It's like buying a 2 door car.Effectively, it a 2 door car and has only 4 seats. One seat missing and 2 doors missing! Cannot compare to a 4 door 5 seat car.


Where is the issue.
Most people who will use the back seats will be kids, so child locks would normally be on anyway.
If you own a 3 door the driver needs to get out typically to pull a seat forward and/or open a door. At least hear you just open the door and stay seated.
Also the overlap will help in wind resistance to improve economy.
stuellis

I was talking to one of the guys at the Tesla shop in Bluewater, he was … I was talking to one of the guys at the Tesla shop in Bluewater, he was saying those fast charging stations in public car parks such as those in Bluewater were only recommended for 1 in 10 charges max as they are not as good for the battery and actually shorten its lifespan.



Yes not recommended charging from empty to full on them all the time but most charge regularly from say 30% will little issue. Bjorn's Millennium Falcon has done nearly 150k miles and nearly all of the charging has been public.
Oneday77

Double your range with this



Lol. But can you charge and drive at the same time?
Oneday77

Where is the issue. Most people who will use the back seats will be … Where is the issue. Most people who will use the back seats will be kids, so child locks would normally be on anyway. If you own a 3 door the driver needs to get out typically to pull a seat forward and/or open a door. At least hear you just open the door and stay seated. Also the overlap will help in wind resistance to improve economy.




Because it is sold as a 4 seat 4 door car and not a 2 door car. This is the problem. It's a big problem.
Do people really use child locks in cars? Up to what age? 16 year olds?
I am sure I stopped at 5 years old and never had an issue.

My sister has the i3. Her "children" are 16 and 14- adult size. They were conned and did not know of the design issue when they purchased it. They did not want to buy a 2 door car for school runs.
I would not buy a 2 door door car. This pathetic design is comical. BMW do not advertise it proudly do they?
"Hey" you cannot get out unless a front door is open - we are selling a 4 door car which is really a 2 door car.

my word...all this fuss about the rear doors! Yes in some ways not a true 4 door but way better and more functional than having just 2 doors. And the door design allow the car to not to have a central pillar which when both front and rear doors are open, adds to its accessibility.
Common Sense

Because it is sold as a 4 seat 4 door car and not a 2 door car. This is … Because it is sold as a 4 seat 4 door car and not a 2 door car. This is the problem. It's a big problem.Do people really use child locks in cars? Up to what age? 16 year olds?I am sure I stopped at 5 years old and never had an issue.My sister has the i3. Her "children" are 16 and 14- adult size. They were conned and did not know of the design issue when they purchased it. They did not want to buy a 2 door car.I would not buy a 2 door door car. This pathetic design is comical. BMW do not advertise it proudly do they?"Hey" you cannot get out unless a front door is open - we are selling a 4 door car which is really a 2 door car.



Well the first point was how did she not notice this before buying the car? It pretty memorable!

Second how often will they have people in the back? I'm guessing over 90% of the time it will be the driver plus one.

Also if they made it 4 door people would moan it's harder to get in and out as they would be tiny.
Common Sense

Because it is sold as a 4 seat 4 door car and not a 2 door car. This is … Because it is sold as a 4 seat 4 door car and not a 2 door car. This is the problem. It's a big problem.Do people really use child locks in cars? Up to what age? 16 year olds?I am sure I stopped at 5 years old and never had an issue.My sister has the i3. Her "children" are 16 and 14- adult size. They were conned and did not know of the design issue when they purchased it. They did not want to buy a 2 door car for school runs.I would not buy a 2 door door car. This pathetic design is comical. BMW do not advertise it proudly do they?"Hey" you cannot get out unless a front door is open - we are selling a 4 door car which is really a 2 door car.



So your sister did not go and see or test the £35k car before buying it??? As I said, this car is not for everyone - if you want the range of a diesel with independently openable rear doors, there are loads of other cars in the market. This one will not be for you.
GAVINLEWISHUKD

Well the first point was how did she not notice this before buying the … Well the first point was how did she not notice this before buying the car? It pretty memorable!Second how often will they have people in the back? I'm guessing over 90% of the time it will be the driver plus one.Also if they made it 4 door people would moan it's harder to get in and out as they would be tiny.



Because when her husband purchased it he sat in the driver seat. He did not take the children with him or sit in the back with the door closed. I sit in a back seat to test the legroom, but few others do. BMW did not advertise this wonderful feature. So honest and upfront. Most of the time there are 3 people. 2 children and one adult for school runs or 1 person driving back and forth. They think the car is great except the annoying design fault. When I did the depreciation estimate and actual savings projections they were shocked at how little they would really save compared to a "proper" 5 seat 4 door car. They had purchased a 4 seat 2 door car!
Common Sense

Because when her husband purchased it he sat in the driver seat. He did … Because when her husband purchased it he sat in the driver seat. He did not take the children with him or sit in the back with the door closed. I sit in a back seat to test the legroom, but few others do. BMW did not advertise this wonderful feature. So honest and upfront. Most of the time there are 3 people. 2 children and one adult for school runs or 1 person driving back and forth. They think the car is great except the annoying design fault. When I did the depreciation estimate and actual savings projections they were shocked at how little they would really save compared to a "proper" 5 seat 4 door car. They had purchased a 4 seat 2 door car!



Thats why this is a lease deal and not a purchase recommendation - beats the depreciation on a car of this value
sicourt

So your sister did not go and see or test the £35k car before buying … So your sister did not go and see or test the £35k car before buying it???.



Yes, she did but they do not sit the the back or imagine such a poor design.

I did not see my car before I purchased it. I called BMW haggled on price (they knock off thousands) transferred money and said "deliver it me". I am not driving 3 hours each way just to see a car. I can see the same model locally and then negotiate.
I view a car as a commodity item.
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'Common Sense'...you appear to be quite obsessed with those rear doors! It should be obvious to anyone on how they operate when you just take 10 seconds to view the car or just open one of the front doors! I really can't understand how anyone can be conned...I'd just say that they didn't look over the car properly to determine suitability related to how they typically use a car.
sicourt

Thats why this is a lease deal and not a purchase recommendation - beats … Thats why this is a lease deal and not a purchase recommendation - beats the depreciation on a car of this value



It may well be.

But he always part exchanges every 2 years and claims he did not lose much money. He purchased a demonstrator with 1000 miles (so not new) with a huge discount, so saved the first year depreciation. His option will be cheaper and includes services. The lease does not. There is no mileage penalty either.

The lease car is new. His is not. It was 3 months old. But, old is old. Cannot compare!
Common Sense

Because when her husband purchased it he sat in the driver seat. He did … Because when her husband purchased it he sat in the driver seat. He did not take the children with him or sit in the back with the door closed. I sit in a back seat to test the legroom, but few others do. BMW did not advertise this wonderful feature. So honest and upfront. Most of the time there are 3 people. 2 children and one adult for school runs or 1 person driving back and forth. They think the car is great except the annoying design fault. When I did the depreciation estimate and actual savings projections they were shocked at how little they would really save compared to a "proper" 5 seat 4 door car. They had purchased a 4 seat 2 door car!



You are spot on with the savings available. If you travel/live in central London then it makes lots of sense or if you maximise the cars potential. For just dropping kids at school and popping to Waitrose the savings will be minimal.

As for the doors, when you next see the car mentally put the door support back in and look at how tiny the rear door would be. Then imagine an adult getting in an out.

So the way they have gone is probably the better of two evils.
Sell Me

'Common Sense'...you appear to be quite obsessed with those rear doors! … 'Common Sense'...you appear to be quite obsessed with those rear doors! It should be obvious to anyone on how they operate when you just take 10 seconds to view the car or just open one of the front doors! I really can't how anyone can be conned...I'd just say that they didn't look over the car properly to determine suitability related to how they typically use a car.



May be they are stupid
I have not seen the car yet as she lives too far and comes in a diesel when she visits. It's more comfortable!

If a car has 4 doors, I would expect each to be independent. I did not believe it when they told me.
GAVINLEWISHUKD

You are spot on with the savings available. If you travel/live in central … You are spot on with the savings available. If you travel/live in central London then it makes lots of sense or if you maximise the cars potential. For just dropping kids at school and popping to Waitrose the savings will be minimal.



I was looking at electric cars. As I do not live in London, I came to the conclusion diesel was more economical. The depreciation of electric cars outweighed the benefit for my journeys. Winter range was an issue. But now diesel is going to be clobbered, I may have to look again at the new generation electric cars. I purchased BMW Efficient Dynamics. On an "A" road I get 65mpg+ In a start stop 3 miles journey, I get 40mpg if lucky and start stop does not operate as quickly as VW engines.

I worry about reliability - 2 times I called BMW for a battery charging issue on a diesel and off the car went to a garage. Luckily I got a courtesy car each time. I do have a 5 year service pack. The run flat tyres are expensive and do not last as long as others! No space for a spare tyre - to me another design fault.

Common Sense

Any idea on depreciation for those who buy? I read extra depreciation … Any idea on depreciation for those who buy? I read extra depreciation > fuel saving. At 6000 miles a year diesel cost would be around £50 a month and excise duty of £0-20 a year is common.My BMW is £20 a year.The savings are not so great and no range anxiety for long distances. I'm about to fill up after 600 miles.For Londoner's zero congestion charge is good. For the rest, it's just free parking benefits.



Its best to lease EV's as the technology is moving fast.

We leased ours and the total monthly running costs are far cheaper than our A1 2.0TDI Black Edition.

We are saving roughly £200 a month in outgoings over the A1.

So in my case the savings ARE great!
stuellis

What about charging? With Tesla I know you have to buy a charging station … What about charging? With Tesla I know you have to buy a charging station and have a 3rd party install it



There is a range extender version of the BMW i3 which has a small 'motorbike' engine which only charges the batteries.
Common Sense

Over 56p per mile + electricity + cost of any scrapes and damage. Range … Over 56p per mile + electricity + cost of any scrapes and damage. Range anxiety.Is it true the car has a design fault with doors. Back passengers cannot get out easily.


56p per mile?
stuellis

So throw a cable out the window? That sound sounds safe and energy … So throw a cable out the window? That sound sounds safe and energy efficient for your central heating. So you need to add a charging station to the cost


No you don't. I ran a power cable under my garage door when I used a Leaf for a shirt time.
Common Sense

Because it is sold as a 4 seat 4 door car and not a 2 door car. This is … Because it is sold as a 4 seat 4 door car and not a 2 door car. This is the problem. It's a big problem.Do people really use child locks in cars? Up to what age? 16 year olds?I am sure I stopped at 5 years old and never had an issue.My sister has the i3. Her "children" are 16 and 14- adult size. They were conned and did not know of the design issue when they purchased it. They did not want to buy a 2 door car for school runs.I would not buy a 2 door door car. This pathetic design is comical. BMW do not advertise it proudly do they?"Hey" you cannot get out unless a front door is open - we are selling a 4 door car which is really a 2 door car.



I work in retail and I've stopped being amazed at how utterly incredibly stupid the customers are, so I'm not at all surprised by your sister's experience another prime example. I just wish I could actually tell the customers what absolute cretins they are.

I have zero sympathy, if you buy a car especially one that costs £35K you damn well check out it suits your requirements and if you don't then you simply don't have reason to complain. Another example of customer stupidity. In the five years in my job I could write an encyclopedia of moronism, there's numerous cases of it everyday. Once you've worked in retail it really opens up your eyes, you can't believe that everything functions in the world with so many people existing with low intelligence.

Edited by: "fishmaster" 16th Jun 2016
releaseyourself

Its best to lease EV's as the technology is moving fast. We leased ours … Its best to lease EV's as the technology is moving fast. We leased ours and the total monthly running costs are far cheaper than our A1 2.0TDI Black Edition. We are saving roughly £200 a month in outgoings over the A1. So in my case the savings ARE great!



I think you are correct. I read the predicted residual value after 3 years is 30%.
But this may take in to account the pre-grant price. So may be it retains 35% of its price.
Lease is better.
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