Bosch WTW863S1GB A++ Heat Pump 7kg Load Capacity Self Cleaning Condenser Tumble Dryer £374 with code at  Hughes
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Bosch WTW863S1GB A++ Heat Pump 7kg Load Capacity Self Cleaning Condenser Tumble Dryer £374 with code at Hughes

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Found 8th Jan
£399 with £25 off using code jan25. Seems a great price for a Bosch heat pump dryer. Click and collect only. Pick mine up today.
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Every single person complaining about damp clothes did not RTFM. Excellent dryer.
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self cleaning......! bet u still have to de fluff the filter
Shocking reviews on this.
Had one of these delivered last week and so far I'm not impressed. Both cupboard dry and very dry still leave the clothes damp.

I'm going to call Bosch today to see if I'm doing something wrong, the 12 year old AEG it replaced dried my clothes no problem.
Scorpion3 m ago

Shocking reviews on this.


Care to elaborate?
Brought this 2 weeks ago, was going to send it back but came across this advice in a forum.

"The fine adjustments on page 6 are very important and I found setting them to L03 made all the difference."


Since I changed this setting, it is Bosch at its very best and it works brilliantly.
mwalke3633 m ago

Care to elaborate?


The reviews for this machine are not good. Many people complaining it's not functioning as well as they'd expected.
Scorpion13 m ago

The reviews for this machine are not good. Many people complaining it's …The reviews for this machine are not good. Many people complaining it's not functioning as well as they'd expected.



I think a lot of people don't realise how a 'heat pump' type dryer works and expect clothes to come out warm.
paulj482 h, 4 m ago

I think a lot of people don't realise how a 'heat pump' type dryer works …I think a lot of people don't realise how a 'heat pump' type dryer works and expect clothes to come out warm.


I have a John Lewis (AEG) one it's the second heat pump ,machine I have had, and yes, they do come out warm!
Scorpion2 h, 18 m ago

The reviews for this machine are not good. Many people complaining it's …The reviews for this machine are not good. Many people complaining it's not functioning as well as they'd expected.


That's not elaborating, WHERE are these reviews?
nihcaj17 m ago

That's not elaborating, WHERE are these reviews?


Bosch, Currys, John Lewis, Tesco.... just about any major retailer. This machine gets poor feedback compared to other heatpump machines from premium brands, even in comparison to other Bosch Heatpump dryers.
Edited by: "Scorpion" 8th Jan
Scorpion9 m ago

Bosch, Currys, John Lewis, Tesco.... just about any major retailer. This …Bosch, Currys, John Lewis, Tesco.... just about any major retailer. This machine gets poor feedback compared to other heatpump machines from premium brands, even in comparison to other Bosch Heatpump dryers.



There is one specific setting you need, it makes the clothes dry perftly, nice and warm and no creases, like magic...

It's this

"The fine adjustments on page 6 are very important and I found setting them to L03 made all the difference."

I found this in the middle of a load negative reviews and thank god I did !!!!
Edited by: "veridion" 8th Jan
Had this model for over 4 years. Very happy with it. Find settings that work for you rather than expecting the Bosch settings to be spot on.
I was going to take the Bosch serie 8 heat pump route but opted for a vented machine from Miele. Most concerning was the Bosch self cleaning condenser which (from a review) was found to bunged up with fluff. The other inconvenience was need to often put the machine on again to get cloths dry - which would drive me nuts.
Brilliant dryer, read the instructions and turn the level up and it drys clothes brilliantly, doesn't overcook them and they come out warm and soft.
Use it everyday
Every single person complaining about damp clothes did not RTFM. Excellent dryer.
Sturdiness8th Jan

I was going to take the Bosch serie 8 heat pump route but opted for a …I was going to take the Bosch serie 8 heat pump route but opted for a vented machine from Miele. Most concerning was the Bosch self cleaning condenser which (from a review) was found to bunged up with fluff. The other inconvenience was need to often put the machine on again to get cloths dry - which would drive me nuts.


Which Miele did you go with? The Miele stuff I have seems excellent and I'm in the market for a new dryer.
What's the difference between a dryer with a heat pump and a normal condenser?

Is the heat pump more economical? Better performance?

Thanks
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EN1GMA6 h, 35 m ago

What's the difference between a dryer with a heat pump and a normal …What's the difference between a dryer with a heat pump and a normal condenser?Is the heat pump more economical? Better performance?Thanks

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When I picked it up they had this info on top. Basically it costs around 50p less in electricity each load than a normal condenser. You need to take into account the cost of your electricity, the purchase price, how often you will use it and how long you think it will last to work out how much you will save
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mastutio5 m ago

[Image] When I picked it up they had this info on top. Basically it costs …[Image] When I picked it up they had this info on top. Basically it costs around 50p less in electricity each load than a normal condenser. You need to take into account the cost of your electricity, the purchase price, how often you will use it and how long you think it will last to work out how much you will save


My guess is that we will use it 7 times/week, paid £75 more than I would have for a condenser dryer and I’m hoping it will last 4 years. By that reckoning I will save (7x52x4x.5)-75 = £655 over the course of the 4 years we use it compared to a condenser. If it lasts longer it’s a bonus. Of course that is if you ‘believe’ their figures but I don’t really have much reason not to.
Will John Lewis price match with this retailer? Thanks
Scorpion9 h, 8 m ago

Which Miele did you go with? The Miele stuff I have seems excellent and …Which Miele did you go with? The Miele stuff I have seems excellent and I'm in the market for a new dryer.


Miele T8722 - the running costs Kw/h are significantly higher than a heat pump or condenser dryer but clothes spend less time in the dryer so wear and bobbling are reduced and the clothes are dry.
Edited by: "Sturdiness" 10th Jan
For those who aren't familiar with heat pump driers, a couple of useful things to know:

1 - Yes, it does use a lot less electricity. It's a spinning drum with a dehumidifier attached, as opposed to your usual sort which is a spinning drum with an oven attached. Compare the running costs of an oven and a dehumidifier and you get an idea of the savings.

2 - It takes twice as long (for a full load) to dry your clothes. Thankfully, it uses much less than half the electricity per hour so you still save. Small loads take proportionally longer, as a heat pump unit takes quite a long time to warm up so even one shirt can take 45 minutes. If you frequently dry just a few things rather than entire loads of laundry, it may not be for you.

3 - If you open it to check on things, you can add another 20 minutes for it to replace the heat you just let out. Leave it be.

4 - It is *crucial* to keep the lint filters (there's usually two) clean. Heat pumps are much more dependant on their moisture sensors to dry things correctly - see above about properly setting the Bosch. If you're the sort that can never remember to clean it out, it may not be for you.

I'm happy with mine (a Whirlpool), but it is a bit of a bugger when you just need one thing dry NOW.
mastutio9 h, 3 m ago

My guess is that we will use it 7 times/week, paid £75 more than I would …My guess is that we will use it 7 times/week, paid £75 more than I would have for a condenser dryer and I’m hoping it will last 4 years. By that reckoning I will save (7x52x4x.5)-75 = £655 over the course of the 4 years we use it compared to a condenser. If it lasts longer it’s a bonus. Of course that is if you ‘believe’ their figures but I don’t really have much reason not to.


If you're using it that much (7 times per week) a gas tumble dryer is the way forward for you. They're about £350 to buy, cost another £20-150 (est depends on your dryers location) to fit and require an annual service costing £30-50 (when done with a boiler). The benefit is that gas is massively cheaper than electricity, so even taking into account an annual service it'll cost far less to run than any electric dryer.

With electricity costing ~15p per KwH and gas costing 2.5p per Kwh you're looking at a cycle in a gas dryer costing just under 5 pence vs just under 25 pence for a really good heat pump dryer.
Before buying a heat pumped dryer maybe have a read of this article on the UKWG website.
link
mastutio13 h, 17 m ago

[Image] When I picked it up they had this info on top. Basically it costs …[Image] When I picked it up they had this info on top. Basically it costs around 50p less in electricity each load than a normal condenser. You need to take into account the cost of your electricity, the purchase price, how often you will use it and how long you think it will last to work out how much you will save


Good luck if they last 5 years!
Do I need plumber to install it? Thanks for help
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Scorpion15 h, 40 m ago

If you're using it that much (7 times per week) a gas tumble dryer is the …If you're using it that much (7 times per week) a gas tumble dryer is the way forward for you. They're about £350 to buy, cost another £20-150 (est depends on your dryers location) to fit and require an annual service costing £30-50 (when done with a boiler). The benefit is that gas is massively cheaper than electricity, so even taking into account an annual service it'll cost far less to run than any electric dryer. With electricity costing ~15p per KwH and gas costing 2.5p per Kwh you're looking at a cycle in a gas dryer costing just under 5 pence vs just under 25 pence for a really good heat pump dryer.


Unfortunately don’t have gas to that part of the house. Also they seem a bit specialist and I couldn’t really find one by a mainstream manufacturer. Just out of interest if you were going to buy one which would you go for?
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ScottChegg13 h, 12 m ago

Before buying a heat pumped dryer maybe have a read of this article on the …Before buying a heat pumped dryer maybe have a read of this article on the UKWG website.link


That article is basically saying heat pump dryers aren’t worth £800. I agree. This one is £375. It makes sense to spend an extra £75 on a heat pump. I don’t think it does make sense to spend an extra £500
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jameswalker45711 h, 39 m ago

Good luck if they last 5 years!


Do you mean tumble dryers in general, heat pump dryers or this particular model?
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mane10349 h, 29 m ago

Do I need plumber to install it? Thanks for help


No just plugs into the mains electricity. Empty the water container after each load. This model can’t be converted to drain to waste water.
mane103410th Jan

Will John Lewis price match with this retailer? Thanks


Yes, they accepted my price match yesterday so happy days!
mastutio2 h, 42 m ago

Do you mean tumble dryers in general, heat pump dryers or this particular …Do you mean tumble dryers in general, heat pump dryers or this particular model?


Heat pump dryers. I'd check the warranty. If it's parts only you might as well not bother. Got charged arm and a leg myself
mastutio13 h, 1 m ago

No just plugs into the mains electricity. Empty the water container after …No just plugs into the mains electricity. Empty the water container after each load. This model can’t be converted to drain to waste water.


thanks
veridion8th Jan

Brought this 2 weeks ago, was going to send it back but came across this …Brought this 2 weeks ago, was going to send it back but came across this advice in a forum."The fine adjustments on page 6 are very important and I found setting them to L03 made all the difference."Since I changed this setting, it is Bosch at its very best and it works brilliantly.


Do you have any link/details how to do that please?
mane103414th Jan

Do you have any link/details how to do that please?


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Here you go!!
Edited by: "veridion" 16th Jan
veridion16th Jan

[Image] Here you go!!


thanks - it worked - it takes b/w 2 to 3 hours to fully dry
veridion16th Jan

[Image] Here you go!!


So what dryerness level is recommended for better results, there are L:00 L:01 L:02 and L:03 levels.
The manual doesn't explain what these levels mean?
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twisterteddy2 h, 49 m ago

So what dryerness level is recommended for better results, there are L:00 …So what dryerness level is recommended for better results, there are L:00 L:01 L:02 and L:03 levels.The manual doesn't explain what these levels mean?


Had ours for a month now. Used it with the settings it came with. Amazing machine. Couldn’t be happier with it!
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