Boss Men's Astro Mountain Bike - Blue/White, Size 26 Amazon - £57.18
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Boss Men's Astro Mountain Bike - Blue/White, Size 26 Amazon - £57.18

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kyegoon22113 m ago

Doubt a mis price. More like cause it's a piece of c##p


Many thanks for your inspirational comment I'm sure the detail used by you will be so helpful to others...do tell us all though how you came to this Assumption - that my friend would actually be both Helpful + Relevant to those of us who would be interested in this cycle & to be honest at £57 I'm thinking for a run around....could you really Honestly fault it....(the clue for those that need it...hint hint...is in the LOW PRICE)

When you're ready please Enlighten..
Doubt a mis price. More like cause it's a piece of c##p
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Doubt a mis price. More like cause it's a piece of c##p
Haha what is size 26?
kyegoon22113 m ago

Doubt a mis price. More like cause it's a piece of c##p


Many thanks for your inspirational comment I'm sure the detail used by you will be so helpful to others...do tell us all though how you came to this Assumption - that my friend would actually be both Helpful + Relevant to those of us who would be interested in this cycle & to be honest at £57 I'm thinking for a run around....could you really Honestly fault it....(the clue for those that need it...hint hint...is in the LOW PRICE)

When you're ready please Enlighten..

Interesting to note:

Warning: Protective equipment should be worn. Not to be used in traffic.

Thanks op, good for the price. Ordered
Thanks OP needed a bike for my son. Hopefully it will do the trick
The link takes me to "We're sorry. The Web address you've entered is not a functioning page on our site."
Thanks op, ordered.
Got to be worth a punt at that price

See 2 other sellers have it at £229.00
Edited by: "markey75" 29th Jul 2017
Thanks OP ordered. The link doesn't work but you will find it searching for it on Amazon.
Heat from me!. Even it gets my boy out of his room for some of the hols. It's worth it. Seems to be over £200 else where, toys r us and very. Mixed reviews, but that can be people not capable of basic bike maintenance.
Heat added. Seems to be a good price. Would be good to hear the opinion of the bike police on HUKD!
What height person is this suitable for? Tried looking on the internet but none of the charts make sense.
ThePrince

Heat added. Seems to be a good price. Would be good to hear the opinion … Heat added. Seems to be a good price. Would be good to hear the opinion of the bike police on HUKD!


Just look at comment #1 oO
**bike shaped object**
fossit

Haha what is size 26?


I'm guessing 26" refers to the wheel size.
Order thanks just worried is it perfect for 6 feet heig
"... inside leg range is 71cm – 81cm / 28-32″..." so the Boss website says
so ideal for 30" inside leg
I'm 6'2" with 34" inside leg so I may look a little silly - but if youre about 6' .. then it should be ok?
Robjh1 h, 9 m ago

Many thanks for your inspirational comment I'm sure the detail used by you …Many thanks for your inspirational comment I'm sure the detail used by you will be so helpful to others...do tell us all though how you came to this Assumption - that my friend would actually be both Helpful + Relevant to those of us who would be interested in this cycle & to be honest at £57 I'm thinking for a run around....could you really Honestly fault it....(the clue for those that need it...hint hint...is in the LOW PRICE)When you're ready please Enlighten..


Its 16kg which is very heavy for a run around. Do you really need full suspension on a runaround?
I doubt the suspension has lockout so thats going to be a lot of wasted energy.
You can get far better on gumtree/ebay.
The RRP is just a couple of quid more, if you must buy new then Decathlon have good budget bikes.
This is just a piece of crap.
Robjh

Many thanks for your inspirational comment I'm sure the detail used by … Many thanks for your inspirational comment I'm sure the detail used by you will be so helpful to others...do tell us all though how you came to this Assumption - that my friend would actually be both Helpful + Relevant to those of us who would be interested in this cycle & to be honest at £57 I'm thinking for a run around....could you really Honestly fault it....(the clue for those that need it...hint hint...is in the LOW PRICE)When you're ready please Enlighten..


Anyone else feeling awks right now??
Heat given for the price but past experiences with full suspension cheapo bikes is that they are so uncomfortable it ruined the get out n go.
I'd probably bought 4 bikes of this style and cost in the past as I really wanted to ride but each one got ridden a handful of times then sold and it put me of mtb.
A final attempt but this time spent more on a carerra and finally found it fun and comfortable.
You don't have much to lose at this price as you can always sell it but if like me you don't like it then look at spending a couple hundred instead, it's worth it.
A bargain at £57 despite being a basic full suspension type bike but soo not worth £229 or anywhere near it. This is a mountain bike shaped object. Only really usable by children and light adults for very light off roading and realistically a rather inefficient gravel and road bike. Not ideal for any type of cycling really and also requiring more frequent maintenance and adjustment. The best cheap bikes are fully rigid. When you are buying a very cheap new bike keep it as simple as possible.
Cheap n cheerful. Good for runabout. Ordered.
Showing at 220 to me now, now the price has gone up, will those that decry the bikes quality because of its perceived price, now eat humble pie?
Proveright2 h, 5 m ago

Showing at 220 to me now, now the price has gone up, will those that …Showing at 220 to me now, now the price has gone up, will those that decry the bikes quality because of its perceived price, now eat humble pie?


I doubt it because bikes should be judged on component quality and you can see this bike is very basic and never worth the £200 plus normal price. You don't fit freewheels to proper mountain bikes or twist gear selectors. What would be the normal price for this bike? I would guess around £140 is obtainable for this type of spec. Pretty much everything about the bike is entry level and may even be a steel frame, not sure from the description.

Actually it is steel looking at this;

bosscycles.co.uk/pro…ro/

Still clearly a huge bargain at £57 but a terrible bike for £230. Looking at the spec the only things that are a step up from the bottom are the sealed cartridge bottom bracket and double wall rims. Considering there was a Carrera on offer for £230 recently which is a true mountain bike with a cassette based drive train, disc brakes and a reasonable front shock that could be realistically taken off road without problems. The normal price of this is just not realistic and not an indicator of the product quality.
PaulthePastyLover3 h, 40 m ago

Anyone else feeling awks right now??

Not really ...mind you with a name like yours....do you feel ""awks""...good to see the children are out of school...Love Youxx
mcrobbj4 h, 2 m ago

Its 16kg which is very heavy for a run around. Do you really need full …Its 16kg which is very heavy for a run around. Do you really need full suspension on a runaround? I doubt the suspension has lockout so thats going to be a lot of wasted energy.You can get far better on gumtree/ebay.The RRP is just a couple of quid more, if you must buy new then Decathlon have good budget bikes.This is just a piece of crap.

Dear Mr "I'm an Expert at all things and Master of Nothing but I do suffer from Terrible Narcissistic Tendencies"....sorry but you seem to miss the point - the bike was ...Was £57 do we Honestly care about your "Expert"" comments....seriously if it was Much More Expensive (like it is now I will give you that..) then your Comments...as Expert as they are may have had some credence(want to know the definition..) but as many people commented it's a Very Low Priced Bike...get it? Low Price = Not Best Specs but for £57 who really cares - besides you of course...
Bought one, will sort me for the cycle trail here in Devon. If it's rubbish it'll go back, I haven't lost a thing.
Robjh5 h, 56 m ago

Many thanks for your inspirational comment I'm sure the detail used by you …Many thanks for your inspirational comment I'm sure the detail used by you will be so helpful to others...do tell us all though how you came to this Assumption - that my friend would actually be both Helpful + Relevant to those of us who would be interested in this cycle & to be honest at £57 I'm thinking for a run around....could you really Honestly fault it....(the clue for those that need it...hint hint...is in the LOW PRICE)When you're ready please Enlighten..

In all honesty the last time a purchased a bike that cost this much it was truly awful. The gears wouldn't change well at all. Had someone try and tune the gears and it was hopeless. But this bike however may be a better bike who knows? But I wouldn't risk it myself. Hope this helps
Robjh3 h, 1 m ago

Dear Mr "I'm an Expert at all things and Master of Nothing but I do suffer …Dear Mr "I'm an Expert at all things and Master of Nothing but I do suffer from Terrible Narcissistic Tendencies"....sorry but you seem to miss the point - the bike was ...Was £57 do we Honestly care about your "Expert"" comments....seriously if it was Much More Expensive (like it is now I will give you that..) then your Comments...as Expert as they are may have had some credence(want to know the definition..) but as many people commented it's a Very Low Priced Bike...get it? Low Price = Not Best Specs but for £57 who really cares - besides you of course...


If you actually read the post, I suggested you can for the same money get something far better on gumtree/ebay. As a velotech gold mechanic (yes I am an expert) I have had the misfortune of seeing many of these bike like objects. They fall apart easily and cost more to repair than the initial outlay. So the advice is still the same, if you have only £60 to spend buy second hand.

Your grammar needs a bit of work too.
mcrobbj1 h, 18 m ago

If you actually read the post, I suggested you can for the same money get …If you actually read the post, I suggested you can for the same money get something far better on gumtree/ebay. As a velotech gold mechanic (yes I am an expert) I have had the misfortune of seeing many of these bike like objects. They fall apart easily and cost more to repair than the initial outlay. So the advice is still the same, if you have only £60 to spend buy second hand.Your grammar needs a bit of work too.


Your comment assumes others can make an informed choice when buying a secondhand bike. It's not always easy. A good brand doesn't indicate a definite good bike if its an entry level model and could have a worn drivetrain that needs replacing. Alternatively they could buy a similar bike to this not knowing the difference and have no warranty or right to get their money back. Yes there are secondhand bargains but you also have to be skilled enough to know the difference between them and very bad secondhand deals. Many want the safety of a new purchase which they can return if necessary.

I've just checked ebay up to 60 miles range from where I live for 'buy it now' bike in working condition with good components £60 or less and there honestly is nothing there. They are either bikes that need fixing, vintage that need fixing and restoring or bikes pretty much the same as this bike, low end, freewheel based mountain bike shaped objects. Another look on shpock brings up nothing of worth with the same criteria. Maybe in a large city it would be different but certainly in my neck of the woods nothing of worth. If your lucky enough to have a mate that will sell you his old bike below market value then great but beyond that I'm not so sure. Don't get me wrong though I've bought good bikes very cheap but they all needed attention, often with a few new parts here and there and a proper service. That's expensive if you have to get someone else to do it. Also those deals only come up very occasionally.
bonzobanana1 h, 11 m ago

Your comment assumes others can make an informed choice when buying a …Your comment assumes others can make an informed choice when buying a secondhand bike. It's not always easy. A good brand doesn't indicate a definite good bike if its an entry level model and could have a worn drivetrain that needs replacing. Alternatively they could buy a similar bike to this not knowing the difference and have no warranty or right to get their money back. Yes there are secondhand bargains but you also have to be skilled enough to know the difference between them and very bad secondhand deals. Many want the safety of a new purchase which they can return if necessary. I've just checked ebay up to 60 miles range from where I live for 'buy it now' bike in working condition with good components £60 or less and there honestly is nothing there. They are either bikes that need fixing, vintage that need fixing and restoring or bikes pretty much the same as this bike, low end, freewheel based mountain bike shaped objects. Another look on shpock brings up nothing of worth with the same criteria. Maybe in a large city it would be different but certainly in my neck of the woods nothing of worth. If your lucky enough to have a mate that will sell you his old bike below market value then great but beyond that I'm not so sure. Don't get me wrong though I've bought good bikes very cheap but they all needed attention, often with a few new parts here and there and a proper service. That's expensive if you have to get someone else to do it. Also those deals only come up very occasionally.


You comment assumes that they can make an informed opinion about what is a bargain new bike. I am going to tell you a story about buying a new bike, I'll keep it short, basically as I child I saved over multiple birthdays/xmases to buy a new bike, with the help of tony the tiger vouchers and halfrauds I was able to get something. First time out it the front wheel buckled due to the mudguard being poorly attached throwing me off the bike and in front of oncoming cars. A new bike doesn't guarantee either quality of components or safety.

If you expect to go on ebay/gumtree and just get a bargain straight away maybe you are expecting a bit much, people wait on hotukdeals for deals to come up so to be fair you should expect that from gumtree/ebay too.

I have bought bikes for all of my kids from ebay/gumtree and yes I do know what to look for so that has helped me to pick up bargains, but google is your friend so a bit of research will help. So just google "second hand bike checks" then you can avoid issues.

Very few of the bikes I have looked at have required any work, there are loads of bikes that have been bought and never/rarely used.

As I said if you don't know the checks to do google it.

Lastly if you go to your local bike shop, not halfrauds, they are likely to do some quick checks for free.
One of my mates bought a £1500 bike from Halfaruds and they hadn't even indexed the gears properly, the bike shop at the trail center fixed for free.
I'm no bike snob but thought id throw my two penneth worth in (the missus has a similar one rotting in the shed)...

Wheels will buckle even when mounting a kerb, this will render the useless brakes even more useless.

16kg is heavy, very heavy. it will be very inefficient & no fun to ride even short distances.

The gears wont work properly.

Almost all components / nuts / bolts will seize & rust making maintenance impossible; even adjusting the seat height will prove tricky.

Full suspension is definitely not required for the riders this is aimed at (nor is front), it will be ineffective, adds weight and adds more things to go wrong.

£60 will get use a used bike that is x10 better than this and will still be worth £60 when you shift it on; the scrap man would probably turn this down!

Sorry to be so blunt but this is not a deal, its a waste of £60, is borderline dangerous and WILL put you off riding a bike ever again.
mcrobbj2 h, 22 m ago

You comment assumes that they can make an informed opinion about what is a …You comment assumes that they can make an informed opinion about what is a bargain new bike. I am going to tell you a story about buying a new bike, I'll keep it short, basically as I child I saved over multiple birthdays/xmases to buy a new bike, with the help of tony the tiger vouchers and halfrauds I was able to get something. First time out it the front wheel buckled due to the mudguard being poorly attached throwing me off the bike and in front of oncoming cars. A new bike doesn't guarantee either quality of components or safety.If you expect to go on ebay/gumtree and just get a bargain straight away maybe you are expecting a bit much, people wait on hotukdeals for deals to come up so to be fair you should expect that from gumtree/ebay too.I have bought bikes for all of my kids from ebay/gumtree and yes I do know what to look for so that has helped me to pick up bargains, but google is your friend so a bit of research will help. So just google "second hand bike checks" then you can avoid issues.Very few of the bikes I have looked at have required any work, there are loads of bikes that have been bought and never/rarely used.As I said if you don't know the checks to do google it.Lastly if you go to your local bike shop, not halfrauds, they are likely to do some quick checks for free.One of my mates bought a £1500 bike from Halfaruds and they hadn't even indexed the gears properly, the bike shop at the trail center fixed for free.


Where is this utopia where people buy high quality bikes and hardly use them then sell them for peanuts? Normally the argument of many bike snobs is high quality bikes are used and low end bikes sit in sheds unused. My local bike shop would do very little for me unless I started coughing up lots of money and my local Halfords has been great when I've used them in the past admittedly a few years ago now. However the quality of service from local bike shops and Halfords varies enormously I know. It would certainly be unfair to label all Halfords as bad and their mid range and upwards bikes are fantastic value and get great reviews. The Apollo range not so much of course. I fix all my own bikes normally unless I buy a new bike locally and only use the shop's services while in the warranty period. I think you are under-estimating the difficulty for some people who are only lightly interested in bikes to make a good secondhand purchase even when using google.
Robjh

Many thanks for your inspirational comment I'm sure the detail used by … Many thanks for your inspirational comment I'm sure the detail used by you will be so helpful to others...do tell us all though how you came to this Assumption - that my friend would actually be both Helpful + Relevant to those of us who would be interested in this cycle & to be honest at £57 I'm thinking for a run around....could you really Honestly fault it....(the clue for those that need it...hint hint...is in the LOW PRICE)When you're ready please Enlighten..

Cause after about 1 day of riding you'll be lucky if it hasn't broke. Cheap wheels will buckle just looking at a kerb. Be lucky if you can change gears let alone properly, suspension is a complete waste of time and effort, weights about 16ton more like. Save any hassle and spend £60-70 in eBay or scumtree and get 10x the bike
kyegoon2219 h, 19 m ago

Cause after about 1 day of riding you'll be lucky if it hasn't broke. …Cause after about 1 day of riding you'll be lucky if it hasn't broke. Cheap wheels will buckle just looking at a kerb. Be lucky if you can change gears let alone properly, suspension is a complete waste of time and effort, weights about 16ton more like. Save any hassle and spend £60-70 in eBay or scumtree and get 10x the bike


Might be worth posting a few examples of £60-70 adult sized mountain bikes on either ebay or gumtree to make your point. I don't believe it's as easy as you think.
bonzobanana11 h, 26 m ago

Where is this utopia where people buy high quality bikes and hardly use …Where is this utopia where people buy high quality bikes and hardly use them then sell them for peanuts? Normally the argument of many bike snobs is high quality bikes are used and low end bikes sit in sheds unused. My local bike shop would do very little for me unless I started coughing up lots of money and my local Halfords has been great when I've used them in the past admittedly a few years ago now. However the quality of service from local bike shops and Halfords varies enormously I know. It would certainly be unfair to label all Halfords as bad and their mid range and upwards bikes are fantastic value and get great reviews. The Apollo range not so much of course. I fix all my own bikes normally unless I buy a new bike locally and only use the shop's services while in the warranty period. I think you are under-estimating the difficulty for some people who are only lightly interested in bikes to make a good secondhand purchase even when using google.


I dont think we are talking high quality bikes here, were talking bottom of the range. Although this so called utopia exists at both ends of the market:
Genesis Core 50 ( costs £1400, bought recently on ebay for £150 with manuals) to replace a nicked bike ( nothing need replaced)
Revolution Courier 200 - £50(gumtree) - well used but in perfect working order.
Both these bikes were within a couple of miles of my house ( which I am now calling Utopia) the courier I picked up straight away, the Genesis after maybe three weeks of looking.

I am labeling the spotty kids that Halfords claim as mechanics as bad, I am, sure in a company that big there are positive exceptions, but I have both experience and heard of badly put together bikes by them. This is the complete opposite of local bike shops in my experience.

Halfords do stock some good value bikes (Apollo excepted) but I would always get them checked out afterwards.
mcrobbj7 h, 8 m ago

I dont think we are talking high quality bikes here, were talking bottom …I dont think we are talking high quality bikes here, were talking bottom of the range. Although this so called utopia exists at both ends of the market:Genesis Core 50 ( costs £1400, bought recently on ebay for £150 with manuals) to replace a nicked bike ( nothing need replaced)Revolution Courier 200 - £50(gumtree) - well used but in perfect working order.Both these bikes were within a couple of miles of my house ( which I am now calling Utopia) the courier I picked up straight away, the Genesis after maybe three weeks of looking.I am labeling the spotty kids that Halfords claim as mechanics as bad, I am, sure in a company that big there are positive exceptions, but I have both experience and heard of badly put together bikes by them. This is the complete opposite of local bike shops in my experience.Halfords do stock some good value bikes (Apollo excepted) but I would always get them checked out afterwards.


Obviously the Genesis Core 50 is well above the £60 price point but definitely a great price. I have 2 Revolution bikes myself both bought from new, A standard Courier and the deal about 9 years ago for a Cuillin Sport for £169 which was on this very site. There has been some issues with Revolution frames I remember and a quick search bought this up;

forum.cyclinguk.org/vie…266

Maybe because of frame issues or just not being able to compete Edinburgh Bicycles seems to have stopped their Revolution range. The only thing listed on their site is a small child's bike. Definitely a good price at £50 for the Courier. I was pleased with both my bikes but neither looks particularly strong I must admit. Some of their later bikes actually bought in low end tourney gearing and other rubbish drivetrain components and are not particularly good bikes but both mine are cassette based with decent components although the frames I'm not so sure about. To be honest I'd have more faith in the bike frame of this bike to not break than my 2 Revolution bikes.

I can't argue with your experience with Halfords as that is your experience but the local bike shops I've seen have equally spotty youths and less competence on occasion. Halfords have a huge slice of the UK bike market and clearly will have more horror stories regarding service. Halfords have about 25% cycle marketshare of the uk by value which considering their reasonable pricing might equate to something like 40% or more of cycles sold. Most independent bike shops would charge more per bike as would many of the online retailers. The only retailers that might have an average lower price per bike would be supermarkets, toys r us and Argos. I know the Apollo range sells far more than Carrera and Voodoo bikes which is no surprise.

Again I don't believe it would be easy to find a decent bike s/hand for £60 for most people.
bonzobanana1 h, 34 m ago

Obviously the Genesis Core 50 is well above the £60 price point but …Obviously the Genesis Core 50 is well above the £60 price point but definitely a great price. I have 2 Revolution bikes myself both bought from new, A standard Courier and the deal about 9 years ago for a Cuillin Sport for £169 which was on this very site. There has been some issues with Revolution frames I remember and a quick search bought this up;https://forum.cyclinguk.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=7266Maybe because of frame issues or just not being able to compete Edinburgh Bicycles seems to have stopped their Revolution range. The only thing listed on their site is a small child's bike. Definitely a good price at £50 for the Courier. I was pleased with both my bikes but neither looks particularly strong I must admit. Some of their later bikes actually bought in low end tourney gearing and other rubbish drivetrain components and are not particularly good bikes but both mine are cassette based with decent components although the frames I'm not so sure about. To be honest I'd have more faith in the bike frame of this bike to not break than my 2 Revolution bikes.I can't argue with your experience with Halfords as that is your experience but the local bike shops I've seen have equally spotty youths and less competence on occasion. Halfords have a huge slice of the UK bike market and clearly will have more horror stories regarding service. Halfords have about 25% cycle marketshare of the uk by value which considering their reasonable pricing might equate to something like 40% or more of cycles sold. Most independent bike shops would charge more per bike as would many of the online retailers. The only retailers that might have an average lower price per bike would be supermarkets, toys r us and Argos. I know the Apollo range sells far more than Carrera and Voodoo bikes which is no surprise.Again I don't believe it would be easy to find a decent bike s/hand for £60 for most people.



Here is one for £50:

gumtree.com/p/b…812

I think the Boss was suggested as a run around, I am sure you could get the above for less thans quoted, as I said if I was looking seriously ( spent 20 seconds) I could find something better.
I wouldnt take the Boss anywhere near any MTB trails unless you are doing it for a laugh ( note this bike is three times the price of the Boss):

Edited by: "mcrobbj" 30th Jul 2017
mcrobbj1 h, 2 m ago

Here is one for …Here is one for £50:https://www.gumtree.com/p/bicycles/26-bicycle-black-mountain-bike-rockrider-300/1258078812I think the Boss was suggested as a run around, I am sure you could get the above for less thans quoted, as I said if I was looking seriously ( spent 20 seconds) I could find something better.I wouldnt take the Boss anywhere near any MTB trails unless you are doing it for a laugh ( note this bike is three times the price of the Boss):[Video]


The gumtree bike you linked to is just a bike shaped object. Twist gear selectors, freewheel based rear wheel, low end tourney derailleur. That's exactly the bike you have been warning against. Not forgetting the huge recall for Rockriders at the moment as the frames have been breaking on the larger frames. The bike of this thread might actually be higher quality. It has double wall rims and the sealed cartridge bottom bracket which the Rockrider hasn't.

bike-eu.com/law…208

It won't effect that one though as its just a basic steel mountain bike. Unlike Halfords Decathlon put all their entry level bikes under the same Btwin brand but that is no different to Apollo models.

The only saving grace of cheap dual suspension bikes is the rear suspension can take the impact out of drops to protect the rear axle from bending so in theory can go off road to a very minimal degree above fully rigid and hardtail basic freewheel based mountain bikes so in that regard it may even be a better mountain bike although like you I'm sure I would always suggest a cassette based rear wheel for a mountain bike as much stronger.
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