Brand New Renault Zoe Dynamique Intens £9178 (£79 + £60)/ month @ Arnold Clark
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Brand New Renault Zoe Dynamique Intens £9178 (£79 + £60)/ month @ Arnold Clark

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Found 4th Dec 2014
Arnold Clark are offering a Brand New Renault Zoe Dynamique Intens 5dr Auto on PCP for £79/ month + £60/ month battery lease (Total £139/ month) for 2 years. Also includes home charger supplied and fitted by British Gas. Charge time at home takes around 6 -8 hours with a range of approx. 60 miles in the winter and 90 miles in the summer. Also warranty/ roadside assistance & servicing included.

Appreciate this will suite a select few but if your in the
market for an electric vehicle and cover say less than 30 miles/ day this could be for you! Just ordered one for my wife who averages around 10 miles/ day so will be an interesting experience.

My understanding is vehicles must be registered by around 24th December 2014.

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get ready for the debate!
I'll start things off with 9k and then you don't even own the batteries at the end!

My turn
9k and £138 a month plus electric for a car you can't just get in and drive and drive and drive.
Edited by: "eslick" 4th Dec 2014

Also i wouldn't buy from Arnold Clark even if the alternative was walking 40 miles to work.

It's not 9k? It's 3.3k?

Something doesn't add up here, or have I missed something? 24 x 139 is not 9k or anywhere near. Is there a deposit?

Don't think you have to pay the 9k, looks like a pcp for 139/month - wonder if you can put it through a business given the bik is probably only 5% of list price....

I make it 3723 for the 2 years before you start looking at business use savings (24x 139 + 139 + 149 + 99).

Unclear if it is 12k pa or over the 2 years though.
Edited by: "m1chaels" 4th Dec 2014

Original Poster

Deposit is £139. As mentioned will suit only a few!!

It's a good deal. £139 a month then hand it back after two years.

Original Poster

£139 deposit then £79 + £60 per month for 2 years. The £60 is lease for the batteries. Renault basically picks up the cost should anything go wrong with batteries or charge drops below 75%.

Original Poster

I'm currently paying £137 for 5 years for 11 plate Ford KA + RFL + diesel. I estimate saving around £35/ month. OK after the 5 years with the KA I would have some value left for a trade-in but this would have cost me £8220 + £150 RFL + around £1980 fuel.
This deal will cost £3336 + approx. £360 in electricity ( 5 charges a month @ £3/ charge for 24 months).
Ka Deal for 2 years £3288 + £840 diesel + £60 RFL + servicing & MOT.
In a few years time they estimate range of batteries for electric vehicles could be around 250 - 300 miles so I am dipping my foot in the water!

And the cost is based on 12k miles per year... thats pretty damn reasonable to be fair. In fact it makes a mockery of all these deals on here, especially for diesel cars, that only allow 6k miles per year.

You can buy it outright for just over £9k, or you can pay your deposit and the £139 a month, with the option for buying it (and still not owning the battery) after the 24 months for £8221 (plus the £99 completion fee).

morpheus

And the cost is based on 12k miles per year... thats pretty damn … And the cost is based on 12k miles per year... thats pretty damn reasonable to be fair. In fact it makes a mockery of all these deals on here, especially for diesel cars, that only allow 6k miles per year.



Are you sure it is 12k pa and not total?

Original Poster

I think the £60 month battery lease is for 24 months @ 7500 miles/ year. More details on the Renault website. Meanwhile here's another review as well as the one on the Arnold Clark website.

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fireman1

get ready for the debate!I'll start things off with 9k and then you don't … get ready for the debate!I'll start things off with 9k and then you don't even own the batteries at the end!



Ha ha ha

m1chaels

Are you sure it is 12k pa and not total?



Ah yes, it does say "contract mileage" and the contract is 2 years so I think you're right. Good spot.

This might make sense as a cash deal for a second car. Buy cash, run it for 2 years (paying battery rental of £60 a month and sell it on for £957 less than you paid - assuming someone will give you GFV for it) - ending up paying just under £100 a month out between battery rental and depreciation. Factor in a realistic 5p per mile running cost and we're talking £41.65 a month in electricity assuming you are doing 10k miles a year and do all of your charging at home. £141 a month to run this car inclusive of fuel costs. That doesn't actually sound too bad.

Banned

Sounds good as a second car.

Early days

works out at £155 per month from what I can tell (including all the fees)
Edited by: "Bobbba" 4th Dec 2014

monkeyhanger75

This might make sense as a cash deal for a second car. Buy cash, run it … This might make sense as a cash deal for a second car. Buy cash, run it for 2 years (paying battery rental of £60 a month and sell it on for £957 less than you paid - assuming someone will give you GFV for it) - ending up paying just under £100 a month out between battery rental and depreciation. Factor in a realistic 5p per mile running cost and we're talking £41.65 a month in electricity assuming you are doing 10k miles a year and do all of your charging at home. £141 a month to run this car inclusive of fuel costs. That doesn't actually sound too bad.



I think it may be a hard second hand sell given the batteries will have to be rented by the buyer.

Banned


Renting the batteries will be the way to go even with Teslas, considering the real cost and also the warranty that comes with it.

It's the battery rental that kills the Renault model for me. I'm presently driving a Honda Insight Mark I, getting in excess of 80mpg. I had to replace my motive power battery after eleven years, at a cost of £1.6k, and I can expect that battery to last another eleven years (so, say, £6 a month, to amortise the one-off battery charge over a 22 year life of the car). Don't do many miles, and my petrol bill is under £30 a month.

But If I swapped to a Renault electric, while I'd be spending nothing on petrol, I'd be spending £60 a month on battery rental -- every month, even if in some particular month I drive hardly at all. Think of the battery rental as fuel costs, and I'm more than doubling them!

I like the idea of going electric, and could cope with range anxiety (and reconcile myself to hiring for long trips), but for a low mileage driver like me the financial penalty of the "buy the car, rent the battery" model is too great.

Battery rental on the Renault site shows as been £103 for 12,000 miles so not sure where the £60 comes from

Tempted but dubious of the battery rental price

Original Poster

£60 is the Arnold Clark website, this is for 7500 miles per year for 2 years.

gt if u park on a drive !!! i live in pre 1400 house in high st no pvt parking impossiable for us to charge

would rather buy an inflatable dart board than buy anything from that cowboy. probably has the worst rep on the planet for a car dealer.

Just to add a little balance, we bought my wifes last car from Arnold Clarke. They were very good, the car we bought was exactly as promised, and they even honoured the trade in price when we couldn't find the spare key for our part ex.

I did look at the renault zoe as an alternative to the car we bought. Again the battery rental alone negated any savings we could have made, the cost per month would put 5-600 miles woth of fuel into my wifes old and current car, and as she only ever drives about that per month, it would never pay for us. Shame really, as we have my work car for going long distance so the range would never be a problem.

I have a Zoe. Be prepared for it not working in LOTS of public charge points. I would never buy one again. Other zoe owners have the same problem.

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pdev79

I have a Zoe. Be prepared for it not working in LOTS of public charge … I have a Zoe. Be prepared for it not working in LOTS of public charge points. I would never buy one again. Other zoe owners have the same problem.



Explain?

pdev79

I have a Zoe. Be prepared for it not working in LOTS of public charge … I have a Zoe. Be prepared for it not working in LOTS of public charge points. I would never buy one again. Other zoe owners have the same problem.



yes please explain...

I believe it refers to the early model Zoe that had issues charging at certain points. something to do with the charge points ranging in frequency where as the Zoe needs a set 150ohms or the computer says no.

Pretty sure this was fixed sharply though and all effected cars recalled.

it is a very new tech after all, its going to happen.

Hopefully someone can explain better than myself.

if it is a finance deal with you own the car in the end then why is there a mileage restriction ?

Original Poster

It's a PCP deal which usually carries a mileage restriction, also battery lease (£80) is dependant on max 7500 miles/ year although I think you can pay more to cover additional miles.

I've driven one of these for a couple days. Quite a nice little car. Got more then I expected but it isn't worth the hassle of having to constantly watch when your going to run out of battery and then going to charging stations and realising it's out of order. For someone who wants to be confined only to the city then its fine.

When you say confined to the city. I live I a city but how am I going to charge one of these from my apartment?

I'd also suspect the public charging points are commonly taken up. So overall these seem a difficult buy for most people.
Edited by: "Boxrick" 6th Dec 2014

its nationwide as far as I can tell - so not just limited to Arnold Clark. check with your local dealer. the zoe is a great wee car - feels solid on the road and plenty of power. for a certain buyer this is a steal - £140 per month for 2 years - hand it back no worries wth fuel, servicing etc included. if you are in around a town your car will only do about 40 MPG , if you are lucky, meaning you are spending about £65-£70 per month on fuel for 500 miles, add on a bit of servicing, a bit of tax, maybe an MOT etc, suddenly spending £140 per month on a brand new car with no outlay is a pretty good deal. it doesn't suit everyone but for some this is a cracker deal.

[quote=nigelspeers]its nationwide as far as I can tell - so not just limited to Arnold Clark. check with your local dealer. the zoe is a great wee car - feels solid on the road and plenty of power. for a certain buyer this is a steal - £140 per month for 2 years - hand it back no worries wth fuel, servicing etc included. if you are in around a town your car will only do about 40 MPG , if you are lucky, meaning you are spending about £65-£70 per month on fuel for 500 miles, add on a bit of servicing, a bit of tax, maybe an MOT etc, suddenly spending £140 ( including fuel) per month on a brand new car with no outlay is a pretty good deal. it doesn't suit everyone but for some this is a cracker deal.

imagine all manufacturers start going down this route. Going to start selling new cars for £40/m plus lease a combustion engine for £100/m. what is the world coming to

a normal combustion engine cost the manufacturer about £70 to manufacture - batteries cost them about £8000. that's the difference.
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