British Airways sale - London to USA return from £345
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British Airways sale - London to USA return from £345

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Found 2nd Jan 2015
BA are doing one of their regular sales, and this includes decent fares to the USA. Plenty of dates available at £362 return from London to New York. Also return to Atlanta for only £345. Dates across the year.

Atlanta - £345
Austin - £579
Boston - £398
Calgary - £613
Chicago - £508
Dallas - £571
Denver - £572
Houston - £575
Las Vegas - £545
Los Angeles - £434
Miami - £432
Montreal - £435
New York - £362
Orlando - £425
Philadelphia - £424
Phoenix - £654
San Diego - £589
San Francisco - £534
San Jose (CA) - £534
Seattle - £569
Tampa - £449
Toronto - £379
Vancouver - £589
Washington DC - £409
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Flight to New York and 7 nights hotel stay pp is £570ish Jan dates using the BA holiday finder tool

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No big deal. Flights to Tampa are over £300 more than I paid in 2015. With the dramatic reduction in fuel prices this looks more like a con than a sale to me.
Yeah BA. How's about passing on those cuts in your fuel bill, huh...

No bargains to be had here IMO.
Careful if you try and get a refund. BA decide how much they want to refund you, if anything. I got a partial refund of £200ish and they kept £500.
Normal prices.
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eatmorefish

Yeah BA. How's about passing on those cuts in your fuel bill, huh...No … Yeah BA. How's about passing on those cuts in your fuel bill, huh...No bargains to be had here IMO.



In order to guarantee stability in ticket prices airlines buy the equivalent of 'futures' in aviation fuel; ie they have paid for the fuel they're using today at a guaranteed price (regardless of current market price) many months (or even a year) ago. Just because the price of brent crude dropped yesterday doesn't mean air fares immediately follow.
Happens
And of course all of the other airlines have dropped their prices haven't they...
moonfruit

In order to guarantee stability in ticket prices airlines buy the … In order to guarantee stability in ticket prices airlines buy the equivalent of 'futures' in aviation fuel; ie they have paid for the fuel they're using today at a guaranteed price (regardless of current market price) many months (or even a year) ago. Just because the price of brent crude dropped yesterday doesn't mean air fares immediately follow.


Fuel surcharges are nothing to do with the cost of fuel. Its just another con airlines use. Simon Calder attempts to explain here
moonfruit

In order to guarantee stability in ticket prices airlines buy the … In order to guarantee stability in ticket prices airlines buy the equivalent of 'futures' in aviation fuel; ie they have paid for the fuel they're using today at a guaranteed price (regardless of current market price) many months (or even a year) ago. Just because the price of brent crude dropped yesterday doesn't mean air fares immediately follow.


Where do I even begin.
Ok, seeing as you think Brent Crude oil dropped yesterday....I'm not quite sure how old you are, so maybe a picture would be best-
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(That '14 means 2014 BTW)
HERR SCHNAPPS

No big deal. Flights to Tampa are over £300 more than I paid in 2015. … No big deal. Flights to Tampa are over £300 more than I paid in 2015. With the dramatic reduction in fuel prices this looks more like a con than a sale to me.



​how much did you pay to go to Tampa last year???
I paid £480 and I'm getting the same fare now with the sale
eatmorefish

Where do I even begin. Ok, seeing as you think Brent Crude oil dropped … Where do I even begin. Ok, seeing as you think Brent Crude oil dropped yesterday....I'm not quite sure how old you are, so maybe a picture would be best-http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1416988/crude-oil-brent-prices-6-months-2-jan-2015.png(That '14 means 2014 BTW)



I do not deny that the price of brent crude has experienced a downward trend recently; I simply stated that the price of brent crude isn't directly proportional to the price of air fares or aviation fuel. Just as the price of petrol/diesel you pay at the pump isn't directly proportional to the price of brent crude.
If cars/aeroplanes ran on brent crude it would be a very different story and we'd all have a good reason to moan.
Oil is just above the $30 a barrel. The fuel surcharge was brought in when it went over $90 or so. They are still charging it and its about time they stopped.
I am waiting for the excellent HolidayPirates to come up with a post on this, hopefully they will find a way to get the best out of this sale. I too think the price should be a lot lower, given that energy has fallen on the wholesale markets. But then again, most of the large energy supply companies have not lowered prices either, so am not holding my hopes too high. The only solution is to go to an upstart rival with keener pricing.
Not overly impressed with the rates to USA, but there are some good BA deals elsewhere.

£500 for direct flights to south east asia (HKG/BKK/KUL/SIN) beats anything out there (China Eastern doesn't count)
Thanks op, just booked 7 nights in vegas at the Mandalay bay.
russellmorgan

Careful if you try and get a refund. BA decide how much they want to … Careful if you try and get a refund. BA decide how much they want to refund you, if anything. I got a partial refund of £200ish and they kept £500.


Some fare buckets aren't refundable, is that what you bought?
not impressed
Have booked with ba for the first time and I have to say the pre booking of seats with ba is a total rip off £350 return Ncl to Newyork ?! Normally fly with Emirates they don't charge to pre book seats may think twice before booking again with ba when I have got young kids and would like the knowledge that we are sitting together !
Msx700

Have booked with ba for the first time and I have to say the pre booking … Have booked with ba for the first time and I have to say the pre booking of seats with ba is a total rip off £350 return Ncl to Newyork ?! Normally fly with Emirates they don't charge to pre book seats may think twice before booking again with ba when I have got young kids and would like the knowledge that we are sitting together !



You do not have to pre book. Seats become open to all at no charge (with the exception of emergency exit seats) to all 24 hours before departure. I flew to Miami in Nov and pre booked a window seat out. On the way back I didn't bother but when I checked in, bang on 23 hours and 59 minutes before.departure there were ample seats available on both decks. I wouldn't pre book, I would just ensure I check in bang on time using the app or website.
Edited by: "Skymonkey" 2nd Jan 2015
recently flew long haul with ba and was reallllly disappointed. they ran out of drink after 4 hours and the staff weren't the friendliest...

on take-off from barbados myself and 2 other rows of people got soaked! apparently their airconditioning system had leaked all over us - it was freezing! i was offered another blanket to dry myself.

give ba a miss... virgin are so much better for only a few £££'s more
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Skymonkey

You do not have to pre book. Seats become open to all at no charge (with … You do not have to pre book. Seats become open to all at no charge (with the exception of emergency exit seats) to all 24 hours before departure. I flew to Miami in Nov and pre booked a window seat out. On the way back I didn't bother but when I checked in, bang on 23 hours and 59 minutes before.departure there were ample seats available on both decks. I wouldn't pre book, I would just ensure I check in bang on time using the app or website.


You sound like you are booking 1 seat, when you fly with kids, it's not quite the same situation.

windym

You sound like you are booking 1 seat, when you fly with kids, it's not … You sound like you are booking 1 seat, when you fly with kids, it's not quite the same situation.



Sorry, my point being there were lots of seats free. Many people only get a seat when they check in. So being one of the first to check in gives you a greater chance if you get in there first. There were rows and rows of empty seats when I didn't the online check but once boarded the flight was full!

I know its not a guarantee but if it saves you £30pp each way that's a good tactic and worth sharing on and money in your pocket to spend on you and the kids.
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windym

You sound like you are booking 1 seat, when you fly with kids, it's not … You sound like you are booking 1 seat, when you fly with kids, it's not quite the same situation.


As long as you do it bang on the 24 hour mark, you should be fine. I imagine the majority of economy class aren't paying extra for early seat selection. When I've flown with other airlines there was more available to choose than not when the seat selection opened. Though that hasn't been on peak holiday periods, so I don't know how much that changes.
heat from me!
iamprobably

give ba a miss... virgin are so much better for only a few £££'s more



Given the option I would prefer Virgin, but in reality their network is tiny.
I want to fly to New York Boxing Day this year. And come back New Year's Eve. When's the best time to book???

I intend to book when the flight opens but never a guarantee and got 2 flights to book seats on would have been nice to be able to pre book either free ( like Emirates) or a realistic charge for peace of mind.. So my point been inflight may be cheaper but also look into the ancillary costs as £350 return to pre book seats is high way robbery in my book ....... Shame on you BA ! Looking now at the London to Heathrow flight hardly any seats are reserved so it will be probs a mad dash when flight opens for checkin ! Grrrrrr ! Well i will see how it pans out but you just don't need the stress really when yr going on holiday !


Skymonkey

Sorry, my point being there were lots of seats free. Many people only get … Sorry, my point being there were lots of seats free. Many people only get a seat when they check in. So being one of the first to check in gives you a greater chance if you get in there first. There were rows and rows of empty seats when I didn't the online check but once boarded the flight was full!I know its not a guarantee but if it saves you £30pp each way that's a good tactic and worth sharing on and money in your pocket to spend on you and the kids.



Skymonkey

You do not have to pre book. Seats become open to all at no charge (with … You do not have to pre book. Seats become open to all at no charge (with the exception of emergency exit seats) to all 24 hours before departure. I flew to Miami in Nov and pre booked a window seat out. On the way back I didn't bother but when I checked in, bang on 23 hours and 59 minutes before.departure there were ample seats available on both decks. I wouldn't pre book, I would just ensure I check in bang on time using the app or website.



Skymonkey

You do not have to pre book. Seats become open to all at no charge (with … You do not have to pre book. Seats become open to all at no charge (with the exception of emergency exit seats) to all 24 hours before departure. I flew to Miami in Nov and pre booked a window seat out. On the way back I didn't bother but when I checked in, bang on 23 hours and 59 minutes before.departure there were ample seats available on both decks. I wouldn't pre book, I would just ensure I check in bang on time using the app or website.


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Msx700

I intend to book when the flight opens but never a guarantee and got 2 … I intend to book when the flight opens but never a guarantee and got 2 flights to book seats on would have been nice to be able to pre book either free ( like Emirates) or a realistic charge for peace of mind.. So my point been inflight may be cheaper but also look into the ancillary costs as £350 return to pre book seats is high way robbery in my book ....... Shame on you BA ! Looking now at the London to Heathrow flight hardly any seats are reserved so it will be probs a mad dash when flight opens for checkin ! Grrrrrr ! Well i will see how it pans out but you just don't need the stress really when yr going on holiday !


To be honest, I wouldn't worry too much! People really aren't as 'on it' as you might expect. You'll be fine, honestly There's a whole lot of seats on those planes. If they were domestic smaller flights it might be a bit more difficult. Agreed it leaves a bad taste in your mouth! I had the same with Virgin this year - I wasn't aware it was commonplace now either, but most people are in the same boat as you, and aren't willing to pay such a steep fee either.
BA preseats families together anyway - they don't want the hassle of moving people around to accommodate a family any more than you do..
I think it's the ridiculously high taxes our government charge that kills BAs competitiveness. It's hardly an even keel when it comes to pricing
matth5182

I think it's the ridiculously high taxes our government charge that kills … I think it's the ridiculously high taxes our government charge that kills BAs competitiveness. It's hardly an even keel when it comes to pricing



I assume that all airlines departing UK airports get charged the same, so not a reason for BA to be more expensive on routes commencing from UK. Always struck me as daft that a DUB-LHR-JFK return flight with BA was cheaper than LHR-JFK return.
The price is only slightly cheaper than the price we paid for a journey in October last year and that wasn't in a sale. Had good service so personally wouldn't have a problem flying with them again.
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adamhearn

The price is only slightly cheaper than the price we paid for a journey … The price is only slightly cheaper than the price we paid for a journey in October last year and that wasn't in a sale. Had good service so personally wouldn't have a problem flying with them again.


BA to New York is usually much more than 362, although admittedly they do have a good amount of deal fares throughout the year like these.
Have had some really bad bad flights on Virgin to USA in last year....
I got a flight from glasgow to miami return for £360 in October. Happy with this price.
eatmorefish

Yeah BA. How's about passing on those cuts in your fuel bill, huh...No … Yeah BA. How's about passing on those cuts in your fuel bill, huh...No bargains to be had here IMO.



They won't pass on fuel savings as they'll have hedged their fuel years ago! It's not like pulling into Tesco forecourt.
Msx700

Have booked with ba for the first time and I have to say the pre booking … Have booked with ba for the first time and I have to say the pre booking of seats with ba is a total rip off £350 return Ncl to Newyork ?! Normally fly with Emirates they don't charge to pre book seats may think twice before booking again with ba when I have got young kids and would like the knowledge that we are sitting together !



Don't worry, if you have young kids they will be seated beside you, and they keep family's together.
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