British General Weatherproof Masterplug Outdoor Power Kit with 2g IP66 Switched Socket/ 3m Cable/ RCD plug £17.34 with PRIME (£22.09 without PRIME)
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British General Weatherproof Masterplug Outdoor Power Kit with 2g IP66 Switched Socket/ 3m Cable/ RCD plug £17.34 with PRIME (£22.09 without PRIME)

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Found 10th Aug 2017
Cheapest price ever according to the three camels. Get yourself set up for your Christmas lights with an outdoor socket, cable and RCD.

Full spec:

13A 2 Way Outdoor Mains Socket with RCD and RCD Plug Kit2-Gang, weatherproof socketColour coded terminals with backed out captive screws for easy installationSocket is prewired with 3m of 3-core, 1.25mm² black flex to BS6500Cable end is prepared for wiring direct to the RCD plug
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Good price but I much prefer the version with the RCD built into the socket, got a double a few months ago for £9.99 from homebase
daniq20 m ago

Isn't this …Isn't this better?https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Home-Kitchen/Masterplug-WP22RCD-Weatherproof-Outdoor-Switched-Latched-Double/B006GAETZU/ref=sr_1_1?s=diy&ie=UTF8&qid=1502379735&sr=1-1&keywords=Masterplug+Outdoor+RCD


Well, of course it is, but it has to be fitted by an electrician, whereas the posted deal plugs into a socket, and so it is a user operated appliance. The posted deal gets round the regulations because it is not permanently fitted, but I don't really think it is safe (I am trained as an electrician).

I would not advise anyone to buy or fit this item - get a proper outside socket fitted by an electrician.
Edited by: "othen" 10th Aug 2017
Great price and better daniq
Where would you plug this in though if it's only a 3m cable? . Thanks
daisyb21211 m ago

Where would you plug this in though if it's only a 3m cable? . Thanks


The idea is you drill a hole through your wall, fit the 3 pin plug on the end of the wire and plug it in to a socket inside your house.

Don't do it though - this is really dangerous practice.
othen32 m ago

The idea is you drill a hole through your wall, fit the 3 pin plug on the …The idea is you drill a hole through your wall, fit the 3 pin plug on the end of the wire and plug it in to a socket inside your house.Don't do it though - this is really dangerous practice.

As dangerous as plugging an extension with a fitted RCD plug top into an indoor socket,
Care to explain?
shadey1243 m ago

As dangerous as plugging an extension with a fitted RCD plug top into an …As dangerous as plugging an extension with a fitted RCD plug top into an indoor socket,Care to explain?


I can't believe you are being serious now! If extension leads were designed to be permanently fitted and trail outside the house then that arrangement would be covered in the BS7671. They are not for really good reasons (taking power outside where there is a real path to earth via lots of extraneous conductors is really dangerous - particularly in houses with TNC-S earthing arrangements).

It is beyond my understanding that people would do this in their own homes and to their own families for the sake of saving perhaps £150 getting a fused spur to an outside socket fitted and tested by an electrician.

Addendum: a quick search just revealed this (The Plugs and Sockets etc. (Safety) Regulations 1994), it is illegal to sell an appliance without a plug fitted (so, if this is not intended to be permanently fitted it is illegal, if it is intended to be permanently connected it has to be fitted by an electrician):

12.—(1) Subject to the following provisions of this regulation, no person shall supply, offer for supply, agree to supply, expose for supply or possess for supply any appliance unless that appliance is correctly fitted with a standard plug which–

(a)complies with the requirements of regulation 8 above; and

(b)is fitted with a fuse link which conforms to BS 1362 and is rated in accordance with the appliance manufacturer’s instructions, provided that in the absence of such instructions the fuse link may be rated in accordance with Table 2 of BS 1363.
Edited by: "othen" 10th Aug 2017
othen26 m ago

I can't believe you are being serious now! If extension leads were …I can't believe you are being serious now! If extension leads were designed to be permanently fitted and trail outside the house then that arrangement would be covered in the BS7671. They are not for really good reasons (taking power outside where there is a real path to earth via lots of extraneous conductors is really dangerous - particularly in houses with TNC-S earthing arrangements).It is beyond my understanding that people would do this in their own homes and to their own families for the sake of saving perhaps £150 getting a fused spur to an outside socket fitted and tested by an electrician.Addendum: a quick search just revealed this (The Plugs and Sockets etc. (Safety) Regulations 1994), it is illegal to sell an appliance without a plug fitted (so, if this is not intended to be permanently fitted it is illegal, if it is intended to be permanently connected it has to be fitted by an electrician):12.—(1) Subject to the following provisions of this regulation, no person shall supply, offer for supply, agree to supply, expose for supply or possess for supply any appliance unless that appliance is correctly fitted with a standard plug which–(a)complies with the requirements of regulation 8 above; and(b)is fitted with a fuse link which conforms to BS 1362 and is rated in accordance with the appliance manufacturer’s instructions, provided that in the absence of such instructions the fuse link may be rated in accordance with Table 2 of BS 1363.

It's not permanent. It's also not an appliance.
othen1 h, 18 m ago

I can't believe you are being serious now! If extension leads were …I can't believe you are being serious now! If extension leads were designed to be permanently fitted and trail outside the house then that arrangement would be covered in the BS7671. They are not for really good reasons (taking power outside where there is a real path to earth via lots of extraneous conductors is really dangerous - particularly in houses with TNC-S earthing arrangements).It is beyond my understanding that people would do this in their own homes and to their own families for the sake of saving perhaps £150 getting a fused spur to an outside socket fitted and tested by an electrician.Addendum: a quick search just revealed this (The Plugs and Sockets etc. (Safety) Regulations 1994), it is illegal to sell an appliance without a plug fitted (so, if this is not intended to be permanently fitted it is illegal, if it is intended to be permanently connected it has to be fitted by an electrician):12.—(1) Subject to the following provisions of this regulation, no person shall supply, offer for supply, agree to supply, expose for supply or possess for supply any appliance unless that appliance is correctly fitted with a standard plug which–(a)complies with the requirements of regulation 8 above; and(b)is fitted with a fuse link which conforms to BS 1362 and is rated in accordance with the appliance manufacturer’s instructions, provided that in the absence of such instructions the fuse link may be rated in accordance with Table 2 of BS 1363.


And the fact that people are charged £150 to fit an outside socket is exactly why they would buy the item in the first place.
And I'm not going to get into an argument for electricians to justify why they charge what they do, I understand you have trained etc for your ticket and you deserve it. Some people just simply can't afford it so would purchase this.
Edited by: "sb170" 10th Aug 2017
shadey1255 m ago

It's not permanent. It's also not an appliance.


We disagree - in the eyes of the regulations it is either a permanent fitment or it is a user controller appliance - there are no other possibilities. Either way it is dangerous practice.
othen4 m ago

We disagree - in the eyes of the regulations it is either a permanent …We disagree - in the eyes of the regulations it is either a permanent fitment or it is a user controller appliance - there are no other possibilities. Either way it is dangerous practice.

Maybe you could contact watchdog or trading standards.
Out of interest, if you were using a pressure washer would you prefer to be protected by this RCD or a 13 amp fuse in the fused spur fitted by a sparky? I know what my answer is.
sb17020 m ago

And the fact that people are charged £150 to fit an outside socket is …And the fact that people are charged £150 to fit an outside socket is exactly why they would buy the item in the first place.And I'm not going to get into an argument for electricians to justify why they charge what they do, I understand you have trained etc for your ticket and you deserve it. Some people just simply can't afford it so would purchase this.


I don't have any personal axe to grind about the money, whilst I'm an electrician I do it more as a hobby (and to maintain my own properties) than I do a business. I still find it incredible that people take such risks with their own property, their lives and those of their family (and to me £150 sounds cheap to be safe).

One day someone's house will burn down or their 5 year old child will be electrocuted as a result of one of these items either not being fitted properly or failing. Then the owner will try to blame someone else (the government, the council, the manufacturer, the picture on the box, the NHS, not having enough attention as a child, not being breastfed, PTSD, BREXIT ... ) but it will be their own fault because they saved a little cash to spend on cigarettes, cider, bingo and Sky TV.

Like shadey above, we disagree - safety is more important than bending the regulations to save money.
Othen was pointing that an external RCD socket should be supplied from a fused fcu in the house. This allows for isolation of the external socket if needed and protects the cable. This is the best practice to he letter of the wiring regulations. They are there to keep us all safer not just to allow electricians to make money. I am one and trust me we are not all loaded

However I do think that if someone is going to use one of these plug in extensions I would rather it were fitted with an RCD such as this.
othen5 m ago

I don't have any personal axe to grind about the money, whilst I'm an …I don't have any personal axe to grind about the money, whilst I'm an electrician I do it more as a hobby (and to maintain my own properties) than I do a business. I still find it incredible that people take such risks with their own property, their lives and those of their family (and to me £150 sounds cheap to be safe). One day someone's house will burn down or their 5 year old child will be electrocuted as a result of one of these items either not being fitted properly or failing. Then the owner will try to blame someone else (the government, the council, the manufacturer, the picture on the box, the NHS, not having enough attention as a child, not being breastfed, PTSD, BREXIT ... ) but it will be their own fault because they saved a little cash to spend on cigarettes, cider, bingo and Sky TV.Like shadey above, we disagree - safety is more important than bending the regulations to save money.

So 3 hours ago you didn't think it was safe, now it's going to burn your house down and kill your kids, scaremongering at its finest.
shadey1214 m ago

Maybe you could contact watchdog or trading standards.Out of interest, if …Maybe you could contact watchdog or trading standards.Out of interest, if you were using a pressure washer would you prefer to be protected by this RCD or a 13 amp fuse in the fused spur fitted by a sparky? I know what my answer is.


All socket outlets should be RCD protected - normally at the CU, for sockets that may be used for an appliance outside this is a requirement. I think that answers your question.

I still think you would be foolish to fit one of these in your house, or advocate that other people should do so.
shadey1257 m ago

So 3 hours ago you didn't think it was safe, now it's going to burn your …So 3 hours ago you didn't think it was safe, now it's going to burn your house down and kill your kids, scaremongering at its finest.


Do whatever you like.
Edited by: "othen" 10th Aug 2017
othen4 m ago

All socket outlets should be RCD protected - normally at the CU, for …All socket outlets should be RCD protected - normally at the CU, for sockets that may be used for an appliance outside this is a requirement. I think that answers your question.I still think you would be foolish to fit one of these in your house, or advocate that other people should do so.

How many houses in this country have no RCD protection at the cu, I would think a sizeable amount.
shadey127 m ago

How many houses in this country have no RCD protection at the cu, I would …How many houses in this country have no RCD protection at the cu, I would think a sizeable amount.

You would be correct Shadey. If no RCD at CU then a RCD lead is better protection than none. But I think someone might think I shouldn't have that opinion 😜
othen25 m ago

I don't have any personal axe to grind about the money, whilst I'm an …I don't have any personal axe to grind about the money, whilst I'm an electrician I do it more as a hobby (and to maintain my own properties) than I do a business. I still find it incredible that people take such risks with their own property, their lives and those of their family (and to me £150 sounds cheap to be safe). One day someone's house will burn down or their 5 year old child will be electrocuted as a result of one of these items either not being fitted properly or failing. Then the owner will try to blame someone else (the government, the council, the manufacturer, the picture on the box, the NHS, not having enough attention as a child, not being breastfed, PTSD, BREXIT ... ) but it will be their own fault because they saved a little cash to spend on cigarettes, cider, bingo and Sky TV.Like shadey above, we disagree - safety is more important than bending the regulations to save money.


I agree totally with you about the safety aspect but as I said some people can't afford it and banding those people as smokers , cider drinkers and gamblers just about sums you up. My daughter and her husband with their one child work there nuts off and pay their own way, neither smoke or drink cider and infact can't afford sky TV and they would be one of those families that can't afford to pay that sort of money,
bseal194711 m ago

You would be correct Shadey. If no RCD at CU then a RCD lead is better …You would be correct Shadey. If no RCD at CU then a RCD lead is better protection than none. But I think someone might think I shouldn't have that opinion 😜

I agree, I would much rather see someone use this (if fitted correctly) than have an extension through a door or window possibly with a separate RCD which could be forgotten about or misplaced. At least with this you have to have the RCD plugged in to use it.
If not buying via PRIME, it's a little cheaper here:

ebay.co.uk/itm…959
Edited by: "woohoo_postingid" 10th Aug 2017
Do power line adaptors work through RCD?
Hot price, for something that is clearly and obviously perfectly safe if properly fitted and utilised. It's a heck of a lot more safe than the outdoor socket on my house, which was fitted by an electrician according to all applicable regulations and standards (it's just that it was over 30 years ago!).
jaydeeuk110th Aug

Do power line adaptors work through RCD?


Why would you want an Ethernet connection in your garden?
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