BT 2 Disc (twin) Whole Home Wifi System. Free delivery £89.98 @ BT Shop
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BT 2 Disc (twin) Whole Home Wifi System. Free delivery £89.98 @ BT Shop

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Found 5th Jan
Saw these today, bought 2 sets to sort out the whole house (and hopefully a good bit of the garden). Cheaper to buy 2 lots of these, than the 3 disc set at the moment. Was £99 before Christmas and got nice and hot.
Same price (well a penny more) at Currys, but out of stock everywhere I tried.
2.1% topcashback for online orders hopefully on top.
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mastermjr2004131 m ago

They are effectively the same as it just repeats the signal from the Base …They are effectively the same as it just repeats the signal from the Base unit and then l from each other if you have more than 2. The plug extenders are only good in certain network setups and depends on your home. Remember as it is repeating the signal you will lose 50% of the speed.


Mesh networks don't really work like that, they create a back haul between themselves and route the most efficient to required device (usually the 'internet' for most people) yes the back haul creates some overhead but it's not 50% slower, the back haul is usually on a disperate channel, not sure about the BT ones, but some of the others use 5.8ghz for backhaul and most can multi link (some can create 6000 Mbps links using tri band aggregation)

So yes physical wires will always win, but for most people mesh networks are a best/easiest solution.

One thing to remember though, don't forget 2.4/5ghz are directional, so put a unit upstairs if you want signal speeds up there.
Edited by: "Charlas" 5th Jan
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These are really Good, got a 3 disc set recently to extend internet into our new extension, very impressed - way better than the extenders I tried before
Same price at Amazon with prime.
moneyspinner7934 s ago

Same price at Amazon with prime.


This is true, but no Topcashback
Purchased. Thank you. Quidco also seems to have a 5% offer for the BT Shop for “BT branded products sales”. Apologies if this appears twice.
Do you need a BT router for these to work (or work at their best) or these universal? I’m having issue with range with my Virgin superhub and this may be the answer.
Leeham55 s ago

Do you need a BT router for these to work (or work at their best) or these …Do you need a BT router for these to work (or work at their best) or these universal? I’m having issue with range with my Virgin superhub and this may be the answer.



No, just connect to whatever router you have.
Don't need a bt router, I've got virgin and replaced my super hub Wi-Fi with these
This or the apple airport extreme @£99, thoughts???
Do these replace your superhub or are they used together with your router, just like regular extenders?

Also, are these different to mesh networks?
Edited by: "jsw72" 5th Jan
Please can I ask what is the difference between these and plug in extenders, which I have always found to be very slow?
You plug one into your superhub/router and place the others round your house and they create a mesh network between themselves, you can then switch off the wifi on your super hub and just use the new bt one.
I was using a Netgear extender upstairs before which was terrible and didn't give me Wi-Fi where I needed it, now I'm getting decent speeds everywhere - would recommend. Tempted to buy a fourth one to extend the wifi out to my garage if single packs go on sale in the future..
Edited by: "Sparkymb" 5th Jan
Thank you, have ordered the twin pack via quidco...
Why not just use the old router to extend the WiFi? Since they both need to wired to the main router
JC19979 m ago

Why not just use the old router to extend the WiFi? Since they both need …Why not just use the old router to extend the WiFi? Since they both need to wired to the main router


Yeah I second this, but only if you are comfortable laying a cable around your house but this setup would be the most reliable and efficient setup. These bt disks are really for novices that have no knowledge or experience with networks. If your going mesh then I would go for a set of disks that have mimo support and work by physically daisy chaining with rj45.
Edited by: "mastermjr20041" 5th Jan
aden_7626 m ago

Please can I ask what is the difference between these and plug in …Please can I ask what is the difference between these and plug in extenders, which I have always found to be very slow?


They are effectively the same as it just repeats the signal from the Base unit and then l from each other if you have more than 2. The plug extenders are only good in certain network setups and depends on your home. Remember as it is repeating the signal you will lose 50% of the speed.
Edited by: "mastermjr20041" 5th Jan
I was considering going for the Google mesh wifi twin pack. Anybody got experience of both as this seems to be a fair bit cheaper?
mastermjr2004126 m ago

They are effectively the same as it just repeats the signal from the Base …They are effectively the same as it just repeats the signal from the Base unit and then l from each other if you have more than 2. The plug extenders are only good in certain network setups and depends on your home. Remember as it is repeating the signal you will lose 50% of the speed.


These create a mesh network. Not the same as repeaters. There isn’t a loss of speed per device the further from the modem source.
mastermjr2004131 m ago

They are effectively the same as it just repeats the signal from the Base …They are effectively the same as it just repeats the signal from the Base unit and then l from each other if you have more than 2. The plug extenders are only good in certain network setups and depends on your home. Remember as it is repeating the signal you will lose 50% of the speed.


Mesh networks don't really work like that, they create a back haul between themselves and route the most efficient to required device (usually the 'internet' for most people) yes the back haul creates some overhead but it's not 50% slower, the back haul is usually on a disperate channel, not sure about the BT ones, but some of the others use 5.8ghz for backhaul and most can multi link (some can create 6000 Mbps links using tri band aggregation)

So yes physical wires will always win, but for most people mesh networks are a best/easiest solution.

One thing to remember though, don't forget 2.4/5ghz are directional, so put a unit upstairs if you want signal speeds up there.
Edited by: "Charlas" 5th Jan
Robert_Dawkins-102697595323 m ago

I was considering going for the Google mesh wifi twin pack. Anybody got …I was considering going for the Google mesh wifi twin pack. Anybody got experience of both as this seems to be a fair bit cheaper?


These always get good reviews, Google ones work I can attest to that, but these get as good a reviews at least, and like you say, you can buy 4 for the price of 3 of most others.
Picked them up for £79 with 20% ebay last week. Am very impressed live in a 1900 semi house when 3-4ft walls and always had issues with extenders these have been great.

Also the app is really good too. Easy to cut off certain devices and create guest accounts etc
This or Google Wi-Fi? I
mastermjr200411 h, 3 m ago

They are effectively the same as it just repeats the signal from the Base …They are effectively the same as it just repeats the signal from the Base unit and then l from each other if you have more than 2. The plug extenders are only good in certain network setups and depends on your home. Remember as it is repeating the signal you will lose 50% of the speed.



These form a mesh network so are not “effectively the same” as a repeater.

I believe they support 802.11 k/v, which means devices should seamlessly roam between discs.
They also support beam forming so improved per device performance. 4x4 MIMO. Etc.

There are two reasons extenders/repeaters impair performance:

1) They are dumb. So you get constructive/destructive interference between extenders/routers resulting in throughput being impaired.

2) They use the same channel for backhaul.

The BT discs do support Ethernet backhaul, which I can fortunately use. A true mesh network will use a separate channel for backhaul. I’m not sure if the commercial systems do this (haven’t looked into it as I’ll use Ethernet), but if they don’t beam forming and MIMO should mitigate some of the issues.

Where they’ll significantly trump a set of routers/extenders is that they’ll configure an optimal mesh network. Thereby avoiding issue (1). And Ofcourse handover/steering of devices between them.
Edited by: "Mentos" 5th Jan
If I want to improve coverage into 2 areas do I need 2 or 3 extenders?
Can I use these with powerline adapters too?
I have a super hub 2 in modem mode going to a asus n66u rt router which plugs into the computer for internet so does the disc plug into the asus?
I currently have sky q and have a Sky q multi box in bedroom upstairs which is supposed to boost the WiFi though I don’t believe it! Guessing these would solve that and do they need to be in a certain range of each other?

Do my sky hub and q box form a mesh or just repeater network
Bargain considering these were £99 for a duo pack pre-christmas when I purchased mine.

I have 4 of these in total for a 3 storey house and have zero deadzones.

One is connected to my router on the ground floor with two free-standing ones on opposite sides of the house on the middle floor and then for the top floor I use a 1,200 Mbps Powerline Ethernet Adapter (connected to the router on the ground floor to extend the ethernet connection to the top floor) that I connect to the rear of the 4th Whole home device to provide the best all round connection.

This can run without the Powerline ethernet adapter on the top floor but I wanted a more stable and higher Mbps rate on the top floor which filters through to the rest of the house.


I've tried repeaters, access points and powerline ethernet range extenders for years but this has been the best investment by far, although a little pricey, well worth the investment.


My only gripes are that they can be a little tricky to set up plus you have to power them up in order of which one you want to be the main man. This is also true if your man one is switched off for a while, you need to power them all off and then power the main one on first and then the others (this is mainly due to me using the powerline ethernet connection on the top floor however).

Remember to turn the wifi off on your router also once set up to avoid interferences.
Edited by: "fweddy" 5th Jan
I got 4 of these recently for an extended 4 bed house. Admittedly, It's a sort of new build and the walls are probably 80% air but I've found that I only need two. Not sure whether to add the other two and extend to the garage or just send them back becuase, in all honesty, I don't need them.

Very impressive.
Can i flash these to run with my cloudtrax network
spidermonkey1 h, 8 m ago

I have a super hub 2 in modem mode going to a asus n66u rt router which …I have a super hub 2 in modem mode going to a asus n66u rt router which plugs into the computer for internet so does the disc plug into the asus?


It can replace the Asus completely, the 'main' box has a WAN/LAN port that goes into the sh in modem mode.
Edited by: "Charlas" 5th Jan
Charlas19 m ago

It can replace the Asus completely, the 'main' box has a WAN/LAN port that …It can replace the Asus completely, the 'main' box has a WAN/LAN port that goes into the sh in modem mode.



.....and the second box can plug into your PC if it doesn't have wi-fi.
Spudboy1 h, 27 m ago

Can I use these with powerline adapters too?


Yes you can, but personally speaking these are faster for me than powerline ever was. I have TP Link high speed powerline adapters and they are just not as good as the wifi connection these provide - the supposed speeds of powerline is massively overstated in real world terms. I can confidently stream 4K content from my server upstairs over WIFI, powerline struggled with that.
So these do not significantly reduce speed between the units. That was always the drawback with extenders, that you'd lose speed.

If these don't, then they are worth the money to WiFi up fully a house.
Good price. Personally I recommend Google WiFi. I've replaced my HH5 and just as a single pack, everything is faster, seriously faster. With the second point I can finally get internet in the garage. I spent about 140 on a 2 pack off eBay (open box returns). The app is next level and IFTTT is useful. "ok Google hog the internet on my phone".....
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EN1GMA5 m ago

So these do not significantly reduce speed between the units. That was …So these do not significantly reduce speed between the units. That was always the drawback with extenders, that you'd lose speed.If these don't, then they are worth the money to WiFi up fully a house.


Can't speak for this system, but for mesh as a concept, it works. In my garage, my WiFi was unusable with just a bt hub 5. With a Google WiFi it's better with just replacing the hub. Speed test in phone gives about 3mbps. Turn on the mesh in the garage, same location....20mbps to phone. It seems illogical as I'm in the same place, so you think it should only be able to repeat the weak signal, but it boots it significantly.

Reviews say this isn't as good as the Google WiFi, but it does represent much better value. Ideally say it's worth a punt. Forget WiFi repeaters. Pointless
Bought these at Christmas. Absolutely awful so far.

1st set I had literally had a dead disc.

And now, that I have a replacement, it seems that the latest firmware has ruined connectivity to a lot of devices. Most notably Google Home devices and in my case, Samsung S6 Edge phones. The BT forums are full of complaints about it. BT currently looking into it.

But at this point, couldn't possibly recommend.
Keeps trying to charge me £6.95 for delivery and only letting me select standard delivery. Anyone else having this problem?
79.99 at Very using a £10 off code, or 69.99 setting up a credit account with a code.
Spudboy57 m ago

Keeps trying to charge me £6.95 for delivery and only letting me select …Keeps trying to charge me £6.95 for delivery and only letting me select standard delivery. Anyone else having this problem?


Just ordered and got free delivery, it's the 3rd option down on checkout page
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