BT Infinity 4 - FTTP/H - Up to 300MB speeds £30 a month / 12 months Total £575.88
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BT Infinity 4 - FTTP/H - Up to 300MB speeds £30 a month / 12 months Total £575.88

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You have to phone them up to order this, but its available as i have just ordered.

£30 - 12 month contract

Fibre to the Premises / Home

300mb download : 20mb upload

You can also get BT Sport Lite for free

Dial 0800 100 400

You do need a BT Phoneline £17.99 a month

This is normally £53.45 - 18 month contract.
So a good saving and only a 12 month term
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Who really needs 300Mbps? Servers aren't going to give download speeds anywhere near that. Maybe justified for people with very big households with 50 or so people all online at the same time - but otherwise for consumers it is insane overkill. A 38Mbps link costs much less and would give same performance for real world usage.

If upload speed wasn't limited, this could be great though for businesses - e.g. sending raw 4K footage from one office to another. But it isn't, and (I assume) this is for non-business use. (I get this same upload speed with my 38Mbps).

Is there any real advantage to having this speed?


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I thought open reach suspended FTTP orders?
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bma1445

I thought open reach suspended FTTP orders?



The new build property i moved into has FTTP.....So the only option for new builds.
SuperEd
Updated cost to include line rental, thanks for posting
So can anyone order this? If so tempted as my virgin contract only has a few months to go, and while it's fine "real" fibre should be much better still
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PR1

So can anyone order this? If so tempted as my virgin contract only has a … So can anyone order this? If so tempted as my virgin contract only has a few months to go, and while it's fine "real" fibre should be much better still



Not sure - I did as my new build property has it. I think you can check on the BT website

Who really needs 300Mbps? Servers aren't going to give download speeds anywhere near that. Maybe justified for people with very big households with 50 or so people all online at the same time - but otherwise for consumers it is insane overkill. A 38Mbps link costs much less and would give same performance for real world usage.

If upload speed wasn't limited, this could be great though for businesses - e.g. sending raw 4K footage from one office to another. But it isn't, and (I assume) this is for non-business use. (I get this same upload speed with my 38Mbps).

Is there any real advantage to having this speed?


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dannz

Who really needs 300Mbps? Servers aren't going to give download speeds … Who really needs 300Mbps? Servers aren't going to give download speeds anywhere near that. Maybe justified for people with very big households with 50 or so people all online at the same time - but otherwise for consumers it is insane overkill. A 38Mbps link costs much less and would give same performance for real world usage.If upload speed wasn't limited, this could be great though for businesses - e.g. sending raw 4K footage from one office to another. But it isn't, and (I assume) this is for non-business use. (I get this same upload speed with my 38Mbps).Is there any real advantage to having this speed?



Yes, its 300mb :P

Ok, proper response...... If you have a FTTH/P connection, for £30 a month why not get the best you can?
Edited by: "Daaaavvveee" 22nd Apr 2016
Check with Samknows to see if your exchange is FTTP enabled (sadly, not here...)

samknows.com/bro…ker
Edited by: "Undergrid" 22nd Apr 2016
dannz

Who really needs 300Mbps? Servers aren't going to give download speeds … Who really needs 300Mbps? Servers aren't going to give download speeds anywhere near that. Maybe justified for people with very big households with 50 or so people all online at the same time - but otherwise for consumers it is insane overkill. A 38Mbps link costs much less and would give same performance for real world usage.If upload speed wasn't limited, this could be great though for businesses - e.g. sending raw 4K footage from one office to another. But it isn't, and (I assume) this is for non-business use. (I get this same upload speed with my 38Mbps).Is there any real advantage to having this speed?



Agreed. When we get the bump to 52Mbps I can't see me needing any quicker. How are you getting 20Mbps upload btw?
garryallen

Agreed. When we get the bump to 52Mbps I can't see me needing any … Agreed. When we get the bump to 52Mbps I can't see me needing any quicker. How are you getting 20Mbps upload btw?



Unless you're a high user, you won't really notice the difference between 20mbps and 300mbps.

For me, my 200mbps virgin connection is invaluable, as I regularly download backup files which run into 10s of GB each from servers with a gigabit connection ;).
As someone on 5/1mbit Internet and a wannabe power user I would take 300mbps cause I can. About 30s for a gigabyte of data, could download GTA V in half and hour rather 30 hours.
Hope folks have a good home wifi network to transmit 300Mbps. Most won't support anything like this more than a few meters, you will need the latest wifi router for sure, or cat5 cabling around the house to make best use.
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terrycollins999

Hope folks have a good home wifi network to transmit 300Mbps. Most won't … Hope folks have a good home wifi network to transmit 300Mbps. Most won't support anything like this more than a few meters, you will need the latest wifi router for sure, or cat5 cabling around the house to make best use.



Cat5 around the house for me plus the wireless
Yeah I'd buy synchronous gigabit for home at the right price. Most might not use it, but then I also have a backup line. Everyone's needs are different...
It would be a good deal if u didn't have to have the phone line @£17.99 a month for something that is not needed, BT are just ripping people off for this!
randall1uk

It would be a good deal if u didn't have to have the phone line @£17.99 a … It would be a good deal if u didn't have to have the phone line @£17.99 a month for something that is not needed, BT are just ripping people off for this!


How does the data get to your house then?
It is Fibre cable all the way to the house, so the old copper line that your phone line works on is not needed any more.
hmmmmmm interesting
Nice, might phone up and moan as I'm paying £40/mo for 160mbps Infinity3
seems like a good deal .... (_;) hot for me. a nice saving from normal price but as usual, douches giving it a negative for making a good saving
Good if it's available. Unless it's changed, if you're not in a new build you have to get fibre on demand, which is more per month, 18 month contract, and you pay a fee for OR to blow the fibre from your nearest cab, based on how far you are from it.

I reckon FTTN will be a more viable option when it launches in a couple of years.
Not in Baldock yet
Hot from me
Edited by: "GPDawes" 22nd Apr 2016
No FTTP for me

But I'm pretty happy with my FTTC, and (tested) reliable 73Mb down and 18Mb up.

Max is 75/20 apparently.
garryallen

How are you getting 20Mbps upload btw?



Plusnet fibre (38Mbps plan), FTTC to BT HHB 5 (approx 1.8 km from the exchange, 120m from the cabinet). A bit bit slower if being accurate - 19.88Mbps upstream speed over Cat6 ethernet, 18.86Mbps or thereabout over wifi, so a bit less. It makes noticeable difference to Dropbox, cloud services, photo uploads etc. For me upstream speed is main reason for having fibre - 17Mbps would be fine, but I couldnt go back to 1-2Mbps upstream.
LotusJas

No FTTP for me :(But I'm pretty happy with my FTTC, and (tested) reliable … No FTTP for me :(But I'm pretty happy with my FTTC, and (tested) reliable 73Mb down and 18Mb up.Max is 75/20 apparently.



Max here is 80/20 according to Ask Sam, and my BT HH is showing 78.53.
randall1uk

It would be a good deal if u didn't have to have the phone line @£17.99 a … It would be a good deal if u didn't have to have the phone line @£17.99 a month for something that is not needed, BT are just ripping people off for this!


People keep saying why do I need to pay the line rental if I don't want the phone. It costs money to maintain the cables to your home, whether its fibre or copper. Doesn't matter if its for a phone or data.
For me the biggest attraction of this is FTTP on a 12 month contract. Works out for me as about £370 extra to get the FTTP. This becomes more attractive if after contract ends I can ditch POTS line rental charges of £160 a year or so. Switch to Plusnet on broadband only plan, taking the FTTP connection to the new provider.

deathtrap3000

People keep saying why do I need to pay the line rental if I don't want … People keep saying why do I need to pay the line rental if I don't want the phone. It costs money to maintain the cables to your home, whether its fibre or copper. Doesn't matter if its for a phone or data.



It's not just that dont need the phone, with FTTP don't need the copper cables either.
dannz

It's not just that dont need the phone, with FTTP don't need the copper … It's not just that dont need the phone, with FTTP don't need the copper cables either.


Hmm I didn't realise that if you moved to a fibre only service you wouldn't need the copper anymore... Still need a cable though? Which you still pay rental on?
dannz

Plusnet fibre (38Mbps plan), FTTC to BT HHB 5 (approx 1.8 km from the … Plusnet fibre (38Mbps plan), FTTC to BT HHB 5 (approx 1.8 km from the exchange, 120m from the cabinet). A bit bit slower if being accurate - 19.88Mbps upstream speed over Cat6 ethernet, 18.86Mbps or thereabout over wifi, so a bit less. It makes noticeable difference to Dropbox, cloud services, photo uploads etc. For me upstream speed is main reason for having fibre - 17Mbps would be fine, but I couldnt go back to 1-2Mbps upstream.



How odd. I seem to be maxing out my downstream but my upload is limited to 10mbps. I just presumed it was the same for everyone. It seems to be capped too as the upload is 10000 kb/s precisely.

Edit - Doh that *is* the maximum speed on BT Infinity 1 for upload. Seems Plusnet have different specs for upload.
Edited by: "garryallen" 23rd Apr 2016
Plusnet on some packages offer a higher upload than BT as BT generally cap upload hiwever they will tell you they dont. If you have a problem you can speak to someone in the UK who is helpful. As soon as you have a problem and require support you will realise your mistake for going with BT. it's like the old car insurance saying, you find out how good they are when you make a claim.

markhh_uk

Plusnet on some packages offer a higher upload than BT.



BTW - Once your BT contract expires you own the Home Hub and can use it with Plusnet or other ISP.
BT and OR are a pain in the rear end. Been on the phone for hours with them and got passed around different departments when trying to order Infinity for a new build property. Had to wait almost a week to place an order as they kept telling me that my property wasn't ready even though the fibre modem showed that it was ready.

If you have FTTH/FTTP, speak to someone in the Fibre to the Home team and make sure you don't get passed onto the BT Infinity team as they are useless. They'll tell you that you can only order the packages at the prices stated on the BT website.
markhh_uk

Plusnet on some packages offer a higher upload than BT as BT generally … Plusnet on some packages offer a higher upload than BT as BT generally cap upload hiwever they will tell you they dont. If you have a problem you can speak to someone in the UK who is helpful. As soon as you have a problem and require support you will realise your mistake for going with BT. it's like the old car insurance saying, you find out how good they are when you make a claim.



Whether they cap or not I don't know. What I would say is that BT broadband customers with a Home Hub share the connection with BT WiFi customers. The contention ratio is probably higher than most other ISPs too which results in slower speeds during peak times and could be the reason you say they cap.
dannz

Max here is 80/20 according to Ask Sam, and my BT HH is showing 78.53.



Ignore what the router states. That is only its connection speed.

Test with speedtest.net
pothole

What I would say is that BT broadband customers with a Home Hub share … What I would say is that BT broadband customers with a Home Hub share the connection with BT WiFi customers. .



Unless you opt out, which I did a couple of years ago. No more sharing of the connection
LotusJas

Unless you opt out, which I did a couple of years ago. No more sharing … Unless you opt out, which I did a couple of years ago. No more sharing of the connection



or remain "in" but don't use the homehub. all the benefits of access to bt wifi services but no-one accessing your connection.
majhaar

or remain "in" but don't use the homehub. all the benefits of access to … or remain "in" but don't use the homehub. all the benefits of access to bt wifi services but no-one accessing your connection.



I didn't know you could do that. So, can you use any Router at all? Any particular settings needed?
LotusJas

I didn't know you could do that. So, can you use any Router at all? … I didn't know you could do that. So, can you use any Router at all? Any particular settings needed?



Any cable style router should do (one with an rj45 wan port rather than the DSL ones with inbuilt modem)

I have an apple time capsule and followed a guide online for the config it's just a generic username.
Thank you.
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