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Buffalo AirStation WHR-G125 Wireless DD-WRT Capable Cable/DSL Router - £23.78 delivered @ eBuyer
Buffalo AirStation WHR-G125 Wireless DD-WRT Capable Cable/DSL Router - £23.78 delivered @ eBuyer

Buffalo AirStation WHR-G125 Wireless DD-WRT Capable Cable/DSL Router - £23.78 delivered @ eBuyer

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The WHR-G125 is a fine example of Linux enabled router technology, versatile, fast and reliable.
However what makes it a killer buy is the fact that it can run the DD-WRT firmware.

DD-WRT is an alternative firmware/operating system for certain router models/makes, that further enhances it's capabilities with advanced wireless features, security functions and more intricate QOS bandwidth management.

WARNING: Installing an alternative firmware to a router VOIDS it's warranty! :WARNING

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Original Poster

Credit for this find goes to an UNKNOWN poster, who had his post removed/spammed last week. I am posting this now, since I received my delivery of WHR-G125s yesterday and have completed the firmware upgrade on the first one (it's been running for about 24hours and is working great).

]Click here to find out more about DD-WRT

To check which DD-WRT releases are compatible with the router ]click here and enter model number WHR-G125

Features available after the DD-WRT installation.

- Cable / DSL router (broadband connection requires separate Ethernet Cable or xDSL modem!)
- advanced VPN functions
- Wireless Repeater (WPA/WPA2 capable!)
- Wireless Network Bridge
- Wireless Client Bridge (ie: for your xbox360, ps3, etc...)
- advanced QOS bandwidth management (Notice: full individual bandwidth management requires the paid for DD-WRT version!)
- block all p2p traffic, all day or only at certain times (perfect for Virgin Media customers, who are only allowed to download after 10pm)

[SIZE=5][COLOR=Red] WARNING: Installing an alternative firmware to a router VOIDS it's warranty! :WARNING[/COLOR][/SIZE]

[SIZE=4]Question: What happens if I somehow manage to muck up the firmware upgrade?
Answer: Your WHR-G125 will instantly turn into an expensive/worthless paper weight.
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http://www.productwiki.com/upload/images/buffalo_whr_g125_angled.jpg
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/5025/whrg125rear.jpg

hmmm! tomato may work on this
digg.com/d3KjbC

actually this was 21.99 delivered at play, apparently now sold out there though

I am wondering why this router is half the price of the whr-hp-g54 ?

edit2: above pic answers my question, its hardly got anything in it. anyone know how the range of this compares to WHR-HP-G64 ?

Hot, for being able to run dd-wrt. How much nvram has it got?

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centaurandrew;6009425

Hot, for being able to run dd-wrt. How much nvram has it got?


Unfortunately nothing to get too excited about, just the usual 4MB flash memory to play with.

Banned

Could I use this to extend an existing wireless network? If I put the dd-wt firmware on?

Ie connect this via wireless to an existing router to boost wireless range in our house?

Diagram:

(one end of house)Router1---------802.11-----------newRouter-------802.11-------------laptop (other end of house

Either with same SSID or different SSID..doesnt matter to me..

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wazza1234;6009585

Could I use this to extend an existing wireless network? If I put the … Could I use this to extend an existing wireless network? If I put the dd-wt firmware on?Ie connect this via wireless to an existing router to boost wireless range in our house?Diagram:(one end of house)Router1---------802.11-----------newRouter-------802.11-------------laptop (other end of houseEither with same SSID or different SSID..doesnt matter to me..


Yes, however the other router needs to support WDS (Wireless Distribution System/Wireless Repeating) and must be compatible with the specific WDS implementation that the WHR-G125's Broadcom chipset uses.
Bottom line, you may end up having to buy 2 of the WHR-G125s (1 to replace your old router and 1 to act as a repeater).

Banned

ahh cool, makes sense. Thanks for the info dude.

Original Poster

Smiff;6009417

I am wondering why this router is half the price of the whr-hp-g54 ?



The ]WHR-HP-G54 is a high powered router, with built in signal booster and high gain antenna. Fine piece of kit. eBuyer was selling them for £29 last year.

ebuyer.com/pro…399


The wireless N version isn't much more.

I believe it also supports DD-WRT

I have a pair of Linksys WRT160N (V1) running DD-WRT setup with one as the AP and one acting as a wireless > Wired bridge, they seem to hit around 40Mbit/s between them most of the time and that's with one at the front of the house downstairs at the other at the back of the house upstairs.

Not sure about the wireless performance but I'd suspect these routers can also could do wireless > wired bridging if running DD-WRT.

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dragon2611;6013536

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151399The wireless N version isn't much … http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151399The wireless N version isn't much more.I believe it also supports DD-WRTI have a pair of Linksys WRT160N (V1) running DD-WRT setup with one as the AP and one acting as a wireless > Wired bridge, they seem to hit around 40Mbit/s between them most of the time and that's with one at the front of the house downstairs at the other at the back of the house upstairs.Not sure about the wireless performance but I'd suspect these routers can also could do wireless > wired bridging if running DD-WRT.


Nice. It has a faster CPU and a little more Ram (same amount of flash memory so).

Firnware support for the router is bad at the moment, due to it's Ralink chipset. The future however is bright! This will be a kick ass product, ones the beta firmware turns final.

Great find, can't believe I missed that. :whistling:

Yes, once updated they will work both, as client bridges and full network bridges.

Does the N version have a built in DSL modem though? Or does that get added after flashing with DD-WRT?

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Sandman`;6013781

Does the N version have a built in DSL modem though? Or does that get … Does the N version have a built in DSL modem though? Or does that get added after flashing with DD-WRT?


Both routers will need a separate ADSL Ethernet Modem, if you want to use them with ADSL Broadband.

SUMMONER;6013815

Both routers will need a separate ADSL Ethernet Modem, if you want to use … Both routers will need a separate ADSL Ethernet Modem, if you want to use them with ADSL Broadband.




A netgear DG834 could be changed to modem only mode via a hidden menu option.

192.168.0.1/set…htm

Also it's usually possible to get a bridge template for a Thompson speedtouch router to make it a modem only device. :thumbsup:

There's a few other routers around that support this functionality and generally speaking some of them are cheaper than an ADSL2+ Ethernet modem.

SUMMONER;6009603

Yes, however the other router needs to support WDS (Wireless Distribution … Yes, however the other router needs to support WDS (Wireless Distribution System/Wireless Repeating) and must be compatible with the specific WDS implementation that DD-WRT uses.Bottom line, you may end up having to buy 2 of the WHR-G125s (1 to replace your old router and 1 to act as a repeater).



Don't think it even needs to support WDS, wouldn't repeater bridge mode do it?

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dragon2611;6014545

Don't think it even needs to support WDS, wouldn't repeater bridge mode … Don't think it even needs to support WDS, wouldn't repeater bridge mode do it?


WDS and Repeater mode are one and the same thing. There are however different implementations, which is why a Belkin/Netgear Repeater is unlikely to work with a Buffalo Accesspoint. Add to that many manufacturers keep changing the chipsets inside their repeaters/routers, from one revision to the next (which ever is cheapest at the time!?) and the confusion is complete.

If you talk to D-Link staff they will call it Wireless Repeating and often not even know what WDS is. Old school Buffalo support staff on the other hand have always called it WDS.

Ignoring Wireless Repeating. Wireless Network Bridge mode should work with any wireless router/accesspoint. However this way the 2nd box will not allow any wireless users to connect.

My Dad has just got a wireless laptop and wants to use it.
He has a broadband ASDL modem which Tiscali supplied.

Would he still need to use the wired modem in conjuction with this Buffalo one.

Thanks

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dougan;6019548

My Dad has just got a wireless laptop and wants to use it.He has a … My Dad has just got a wireless laptop and wants to use it.He has a broadband ASDL modem which Tiscali supplied.Would he still need to use the wired modem in conjuction with this Buffalo one.Thanks


Yes, he would still need an ADSL "Ethernet" modem, for this to work. USB ADSL modems are NOT compatible with this setup.

SUMMONER;6009747

The ]WHR-HP-G54 is a high powered router, with built in signal booster … The ]WHR-HP-G54 is a high powered router, with built in signal booster and high gain antenna. Fine piece of kit. eBuyer was selling them for £29 last year.



Probably a good thing in some circumstances (large open areas in particular), but I'd be tempted to spend the same amount to get two cheaper WRT capable routers, then link them via WDS - careful positioning and you can cover a much bigger and more useful area with better quality signal than with a single router.

Another advantage of using a WDS network is if you ever have a device which is not wireless capable out-of-the-box but has an ethernet port (for example, an Xbox 360) you don't need to spend the cash on the official wireless addon - just get another router. The Xbox wireless addon is usually around £50 - this router is £24, so it's half the price, and also you add another WDS node to your wireless network giving you better signal in that area. (There are downsides; it needs power and is bulkier, for a start...)

Couldn't be without my WHR-G54S, best router I've had to date. Haven't yet found a worthy 802.11n replacement that can run third party firmware without major hassle or bugs.

please dont use dd-wrt it is in violation of copyright (like using a copied version of any software)
]http//en…WRT
openwrt is a better thing to use

Original Poster

angusr;6019718

Probably a good thing in some circumstances (large open areas in … Probably a good thing in some circumstances (large open areas in particular), but I'd be tempted to spend the same amount to get two cheaper WRT capable routers, then link them via WDS - careful positioning and you can cover a much bigger and more useful area with better quality signal than with a single router. Another advantage of using a WDS network is if you ever have a device which is not wireless capable out-of-the-box but has an ethernet port (for example, an Xbox 360) you don't need to spend the cash on the official wireless addon - just get another router. The Xbox wireless addon is usually around £50 - this router is £24, so it's half the price, and also you add another WDS node to your wireless network giving you better signal in that area. (There are downsides; it needs power and is bulkier, for a start...)


Totally, I like the idea behind WDS, but I don't like how it halves the bandwidth. Personally I would combine Homeplugs and Accesspoints, also that of course increases the price drastically.

Can I use this to connect to my Netgear DG834G wireless network and then connect devices (xbox, pc etc) to the ethernet ports on this router, sparing expensive dongles?

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tgomas;6020188

Can I use this to connect to my Netgear DG834G wireless network and then … Can I use this to connect to my Netgear DG834G wireless network and then connect devices (xbox, pc etc) to the ethernet ports on this router, sparing expensive dongles?


Yes, you can use Network Bridge Mode to connect up to 4 networked devices to your DG834G.
Just remember that Network Bridge Mode will mean that the wireless radio of the WHR-G125 will not allow wireless clients to connect to it. Some of the later DG834Gs (v4 and v5 i think) actually support WDS. That may be a good option, also using it will half it's bandwidth, which may be an issue for online gaming.

It seems it's 18.99 + 9.99 shipping now - has the price gone up or is there a voucher code I'm missing, or something? Thx.

PS, figured it out, I've got to change it to 3 or more working days to get the shipping cost down, and "super saver" to get to the lowest. Nice deal, Buffalo routers are very solid, IMO. Very good fdeal even if you're not planning to flash the firmware. Thank you.

Thanks for the info regarding a separate modem. Tempted by this but I would need to get an ADSL2 ethernet modem too which seem to be quite expensive.

SUMMONER;6014698

WDS and Repeater mode are one and the same thing. There are however … WDS and Repeater mode are one and the same thing. There are however different implementations, which is why a Belkin/Netgear Repeater is unlikely to work with a Buffalo Accesspoint. Add to that many manufacturers keep changing the chipsets inside their repeaters/routers, from one revision to the next (which ever is cheapest at the time!?) and the confusion is complete.If you talk to D-Link staff they will call it Wireless Repeating and often not even know what WDS is. Old school Buffalo support staff on the other hand have always called it WDS.Ignoring Wireless Repeating. Wireless Network Bridge mode should work with any wireless router/accesspoint. However this way the 2nd box will not allow any wireless users to connect.



I was under the impression that the repeater bridge mode made it look like a client to the first device so was pretty much universal

Original Poster

dragon2611;6026091

I was under the impression that the repeater bridge mode made it look … I was under the impression that the repeater bridge mode made it look like a client to the first device so was pretty much universal


Unfortunately that is a definite no. Wireless Repeating mode needs to be directly supported by both devices.

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Sandman`;6025853

Thanks for the info regarding a separate modem. Tempted by this but I … Thanks for the info regarding a separate modem. Tempted by this but I would need to get an ADSL2 ethernet modem too which seem to be quite expensive.


]This Linksys ADSL2MUE will do the job nicely (can be reconfigured from an ADSL modem router into an ADSL modem), also if you have no need for a cable router you are better off with a different model IMO.

This is pretty convenient as my wireless bridge just gave up on me and I was thinking about going the DD-WRT route and using a router, benefitting from being able to hook up two devices simultaneously.

I'm just wondering if changing the from the original firmware is necessary for me as the product description states that it can be turned into a bridge. Previously I was using a wireless bridge to hook up my Xbox and PC so could I do that without installing DD-WRT?

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NachosMania;6028336

I was thinking about going the DD-WRT route and using a router, … I was thinking about going the DD-WRT route and using a router, benefiting from being able to hook up two devices simultaneously. I'm just wondering if changing the from the original firmware is necessary for me as the product description states that it can be turned into a bridge. Previously I was using a wireless bridge to hook up my Xbox and PC so could I do that without installing DD-WRT?


I had a quick dabble with the original Buffalo firmware on one of the WHR-G125 that I haven't upgraded yet.

Unfortunately there seems to be no traditional Network Bridge option, only a WDS Bridge, which not only requires for your broadband router to support WDS, but also limits the security setting to WEP encryption (no WPA/WPA2 possible).

Having upgraded the firmware you have the option of a Client Bridge (I call that a Network Bridge), which will allow you to connect 4 devices (more with an extra network hub) via the WHR-G125 to your broadband router.

There is also a WDS Bridge option with WPA/WPA2 support, which seemed to work ok when I tried it for a few minutes (again, I would stay away from WDS unless you need to extend the wireless range, due to the loss of bandwidth it causes).

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Smiff;6009417

hmmm! tomato may work on thishttp://digg.com/d3KjbC


Just finished upgrading one of the routers to Tomato 1.25 ND (had to use tftp, DD-WRT's web based firmware uploader rejected the tomato firmware file as being incompatible). Anyone wanting to install Tomato on this router, remember it has to be the ND version.

If the router will not accept the default username/password after the upgrade, do a hard reset (I still got a DD-WRT login prompt after upgrade and reboot).

First impressions are that the user interface of Tomato is less refined than that of DD-WRT.

Atheros is what you want if you need the router to act as an AP and also connect to another AP at the same time.

I bought the v1 Fonera and took that abroad with me so that I could....... borrow..... the wireless internet in the area and also create my own wireless network without the aid of a computer.

One other plus about this, it looks like the antenna is easily removeable so you can use something else if you like. Not sure about the connector.

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buzzy;6034029

One other plus about this, it looks like the antenna is easily removeable … One other plus about this, it looks like the antenna is easily removeable so you can use something else if you like. Not sure about the connector.


Oh dear, I hadn't realised that the posted pics showed an SMA mount. The WHR-G125 revision that eBuyer supply has a non-detachable antenna (replaced pics with correct ones).

Sorry about that.

Thank you, Summoner. Very helpful and concise.

SUMMONER;6033670

Just finished upgrading one of the routers to Tomato 1.25 ND (had to use … Just finished upgrading one of the routers to Tomato 1.25 ND (had to use tftp, DD-WRT's web based firmware uploader rejected the tomato firmware file as being incompatible). Anyone wanting to install Tomato on this router, remember it has to be the ND version.If the router will not accept the default username/password after the upgrade, do a hard reset (I still got a DD-WRT login prompt after upgrade and reboot).First impressions are that the user interface of Tomato is less refined than that of DD-WRT.



Could you not upgrade to Tomato from the default firmware? - I've got a WRT-54GL with Tomato on it, and I'm used to the interface and pretty graphs, so I'll probably stick with that firmware.

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nick88;6069573

Could you not upgrade to Tomato from the default firmware? - I've got a … Could you not upgrade to Tomato from the default firmware? - I've got a WRT-54GL with Tomato on it, and I'm used to the interface and pretty graphs, so I'll probably stick with that firmware.


By the time I started playing with Tomato I had them all upgraded to DD-WRT.

I spent ages playing around with some so called compatible Linksys routers and put DD-WRT on them only for them to keep crashing...I found the tomatoe firmware a lot more stable maybe i was even told by an expereinced engineer on the DD-WRT that a particular firmware would be 100% stable even that one wasent not worth the hassle really in my honest opinion

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Price has gone back to £38.99 + delivery. Buuhh!!! :x
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