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Buy Windows XP Pro, Get a Free PC! P4 2.66Ghz - 512Mb - 40Gb - DVD-ROM - Free delivery..£64.99 @ Bigpockets
Buy Windows XP Pro, Get a Free PC! P4 2.66Ghz - 512Mb - 40Gb - DVD-ROM - Free delivery..£64.99 @ Bigpockets

Buy Windows XP Pro, Get a Free PC! P4 2.66Ghz - 512Mb - 40Gb - DVD-ROM - Free delivery..£64.99 @ Bigpockets

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IBM Thinkcentre Desktop P4 2.66Ghz

CPU / Processor Intel Pentium 4 2.66Ghz
Hard Drive Size 40 Gb Min
RAM / Memory Size 512Mb DDR
Optical Drive(s) DVD-ROM
Network / Connectivity 10/100 NIC,
Audio / Sound Built in 16bit
Additional 4 x USB2.0
Condition Used
Warranty 3 Months Return to base
Operating System Win XP Pro License, OS is pre-installed but no Restore Discs are supplied

90 Comments

bit of a mis description as technically the license is tied to this machine only

use and 1 in stock

Booshambles;4509889

use and 1 in stock



there's:whistling: 95 in stock

maddogb;4509871

bit of a mis description as technically the license is tied to this … bit of a mis description as technically the license is tied to this machine only


Agreed, liscenced for this machine only, which is sold used. But f you try to upgrade it, chances are windows XP will stop working. OEM

bigflump;4510199

Agreed, liscenced for this machine only, which is sold used. But f you … Agreed, liscenced for this machine only, which is sold used. But f you try to upgrade it, chances are windows XP will stop working. OEM



What?! What will stop working, the machine or XP? Doesn't sound right to me

mminghella;4510355

What?! What will stop working, the machine or XP? Doesn't sound right … What?! What will stop working, the machine or XP? Doesn't sound right to me



Confused :?

mminghella;4510355

What?! What will stop working, the machine or XP? Doesn't sound right … What?! What will stop working, the machine or XP? Doesn't sound right to me


XP is liscensed to the PC only...so if you try and upgrade the PC, for example by buying a different processor. Then the XP liscence will sometimes expire, becuase technically, its no longer the same machine.

OEM versions of operating systems works the same way, that why they're cheaper than buying a full liscence.

the oem windows licence will work fine, and so will windows update.

bigflump;4510473

XP is liscensed to the PC only...so if you try and upgrade the PC, for … XP is liscensed to the PC only...so if you try and upgrade the PC, for example by buying a different processor. Then the XP liscence will sometimes expire, becuase technically, its no longer the same machine. OEM versions of operating systems works the same way, that why they're cheaper than buying a full liscence.



P4 2.6 is socket 478 & only upgradeable to P4 2.8 iirc

bellamy_47;4510493

the oem windows licence will work fine, and so will windows update.



So not really a problem for my daughters first computer?

bellamy_47;4510512

P4 2.6 is socket 478 & only upgradeable to P4 2.8 iirc



There was a 3.2ghz s478 ...

bellamy_47;4510512

P4 2.6 is socket 478 & only upgradeable to P4 2.8 iirc


In which case you'll get away with changing the processor :thumbsup:
Im not saying windows will stop working if you buy one, it'll be fine.
But as the PC is 2nd hand, you may get problems with the XP liscence when you need to replace hardware.
+ no restore disk...whats that all about.

Means windows is installed on the HD so when the drive goes down or you want to install a bigger hard drive you have no way of re-installing windows.

Old used PC, with no real warranty, might be worth it but probably do better on eBay.

bigflump;4510473

XP is liscensed to the PC only...so if you try and upgrade the PC, for … XP is liscensed to the PC only...so if you try and upgrade the PC, for example by buying a different processor. Then the XP liscence will sometimes expire, becuase technically, its no longer the same machine. OEM versions of operating systems works the same way, that why they're cheaper than buying a full liscence.



That's an old wive's tale. There is no way at all that an OEM version won't work after a hardware change. Recovery disks that manufacturers supply are a different matter and scaremongering helps no-one

As long as the licence number (as that is waht M$ charge for remember) is on the machine, you can just reload any copy of a corresponding opperating system and it will work fine, I changed an entire PC this week, new case, board, RAM, DVD RW, Hard Disc, the lot, you know what? works fine with my old licence!!
Scaremongering indeed.

Mike..

mminghella;4510710

That's an old wive's tale. There is no way at all that an OEM version … That's an old wive's tale. There is no way at all that an OEM version won't work after a hardware change. Recovery disks that manufacturers supply are a different matter and scaremongering helps no-one


If you think I was scaremongering then I apologise.....that wasn't my intention.
It jreminded me of a friends problems after changing his processor where XP was liscensed to the machine.
He contacted Microsoft, and was told that the Windows XP registration number incorporates part of the processors serial number. By changing the processor his windows key became invalid, and he had to buy a new liscence.

bigflump;4511041

He contacted Microsoft, and was told that the Windows XP registration … He contacted Microsoft, and was told that the Windows XP registration number incorporates part of the processors serial number. By changing the processor his windows key became invalid, and he had to buy a new liscence.

That really is 'misinformation'/poor customer support on MS' part, but at the same time MS have no legal obligation to provide a product code in these circumstances if they don't want to.

As the others have mentioned, it's never failed to work for me either. On the one occasion I had to call MS for a code, the CS rep was very helpful. It seems to be luck of the draw though, & sometimes calling a few days later/speaking to someone else does the trick :thumbsup:

Crossbow;4511117

That really is 'misinformation'/poor customer support on MS' part, but at … That really is 'misinformation'/poor customer support on MS' part, but at the same time MS have no legal obligation to provide a product code in these circumstances if they don't want to.As the others have mentioned, it's never failed to work for me either. On the one occasion I had to call MS for a code, the CS rep was very helpful. It seems to be luck of the draw though, & sometimes calling a few days later/speaking to someone else does the trick :thumbsup:



Sounds like I was misinformed, wasn't intentionally trying to wind people up.
So whats the difference between an OEM version of windows and a full liscence?

oem - no support
tied to machine it was installed on, getting some couldnt give a care in the world call centre bloke to activate your upgraded system OEM install is breaking the EULA so its your consience really...

retail - expensive, support, ability to keep OS with upgrades

go on wiki for a better descrip

Thanks will check it out.

Crossbow;4511117

That really is 'misinformation'/poor customer support on MS' part, but at … That really is 'misinformation'/poor customer support on MS' part, but at the same time MS have no legal obligation to provide a product code in these circumstances if they don't want to.


jackvdbuk;4511264

oem - no supporttied to machine it was installed on

My OEM version of XP 'expired' when I upgraded my machine but when I rang the support number they re-activated it and all was well. Should be OK as long as you have the sticker with serial number on the case?

Banned

bigflump;4510473

XP is liscensed to the PC only...so if you try and upgrade the PC, for … XP is liscensed to the PC only...so if you try and upgrade the PC, for example by buying a different processor. Then the XP liscence will sometimes expire, becuase technically, its no longer the same machine. OEM versions of operating systems works the same way, that why they're cheaper than buying a full liscence.


you only have to ring MS and they will licence it again for free. Same for most OEM upgrades.

Banned

jackvdbuk;4511264

oem - no supporttied to machine it was installed on, getting some … oem - no supporttied to machine it was installed on, getting some couldnt give a care in the world call centre bloke to activate your upgraded system OEM install is breaking the EULA so its your consience really...retail - expensive, support, ability to keep OS with upgradesgo on wiki for a better descrip


Absolute rubbish!

Most PC's have OEM O/S installed and never heard of MS refusing to re-licence wjen upgrading a machine.

Otherwise, no-one would but am OEM PC (e.g. DELL :w00t:)

Banned

Going_Digital;4510639

Means windows is installed on the HD so when the drive goes down or you … Means windows is installed on the HD so when the drive goes down or you want to install a bigger hard drive you have no way of re-installing windows.Old used PC, with no real warranty, might be worth it but probably do better on eBay.


I would just install a larger second drive and image across the old one to the new one so you have two recovery HDD's :thumbsup:

Going_Digital;4510639

Means windows is installed on the HD so when the drive goes down or you … Means windows is installed on the HD so when the drive goes down or you want to install a bigger hard drive you have no way of re-installing windows.Old used PC, with no real warranty, might be worth it but probably do better on eBay.



Just download a copy of winxp of the net then, your got the serial number so not breaking the law

My work has one of these, the DVD-R/W is knackered and its never been used.
Accessing the inside of the case is simple enough, two buttons on either side and the top of the case lifts up like a car bonnet. Inside is cramped though and not much room for adding extra hardware.. would only be a case of replacing if wanting to update.

I've not had a proper look at the inside of this machine though, just knocked a card loose so had to open and replace it last week.

Seems a good deal with 3 Months Return to base Warranty as you wont get any warranty going down the ebay route :thinking:

Cheapest new desktop PC I can see is £180 minimum so this is a third of the cost and worh a punt for your first PC in your house / kids machine.

As for XP OEM licences with a sitcker on the base unit - if you have any issue when you upgrade the ram etc the automated Microsoft line will activate your machine fine but there is no point in upgrading the processor in this as you will end up having to get new ram / motherboard etc to gain any significant performace increase and then you are back to spending £200 odd

I had one of these in work, they are loud and hot machines!
After only a few weeks of use it died (motherboard issue), they might be cheap, but it's a flawed design for sure!

Jesus it's £65 people, get over the fact it isn't the best spec/etc in the world. Cracking bargain.

I just thought I should add that you should not thing that the clock speed of 2.66 ghz indicates this is a good processor. This is a P4 an old and not very good processor.
That said for £64 I can't really see you doing much better. This will be a passable computer for web browsing and basic tasks. As long as your expectations and requirements are not too high this is a good buy.

And as for all that OEM rubbish, even if you have a problem you can just reinstall a downloaded copy of windows as this is perfectly legal since the machine is already licences.

When I was building a HTPC, I bought a P4 2.4 and it cost the same as this entire machine! You could start off a HTPC with this e.g. 2 GB RAM, keep the HDD purely for the OS too

Why are most people whinging about this?

£65 gets you a good working computer. Okay, you'll not be able to play the latest games but what the hell do you want for under £100 ?

Heat added !

If you want a basic PC for word processing or internet then it is fine, you couldn't build one with XP for £65.

My dad uses a similar spec Netvista PC for his web browsing, and also to play his Amiga emulator on, had it for 3 years with no problems, all i did was upgrade to ram for him with an old stick i had laying around.

Theres nothing wrong with Dells, and nothing wrong with this offer.

you can change the hardware and it will not affect the xp, i don't know why you thought that? the only time it would affect it is when you change the hard drive, or change the motherboard (you'd need the bios to know where the windows boot sector is)

as for upgrading, on this machine, you'll get as far as upgrading the ram, and putting the slightly faster processor in it, everything else is pretty much custom designed by dell, or has custom brackets on it.

id have one if i was looking for a cheap machine

I upgraded my Oem machine with new cpu HDD's etc and had no problem re-activating the XP licence, with a quick call to MS.

jamesdew;4512549

... I just thought I should add that you should not thing that the clock … ... I just thought I should add that you should not thing that the clock speed of 2.66 ghz indicates this is a good processor. This is a P4 an old and not very good processor ... That said for £64 I can't really see you doing much better. This will be a passable computer for web browsing and basic tasks ...



I can assure you - you are talking rubbish!

Sure it's not a multi-core CPU - but the Northwood P4 CPU was very well regarded - I still have several PCs with these CPUs and they are capable of much more than just web browsing and basic tasks!

Too many times folks come on here and just talk F*****g C**p!

toaster;4512822

I upgraded my Oem machine with new cpu HDD's etc and had no problem … I upgraded my Oem machine with new cpu HDD's etc and had no problem re-activating the XP licence, with a quick call to MS.



I bought an OEM XP Pro for my laptop a few years ago. The hard disk in the lappy eventually broke and to cut a long story short didn't use XP Pro as a result. Recently I put a new hard disk in my desktop and decided to stick the old XP Pro on it... worked fine with no need to ring Microsoft - just registered it online as normal.

jamesdew;4512549

This is a P4 an old and not very good processor.



I'm using a PC with P4 2,66ghz to write this. This PC is more than capable of just basic tasks. I have an agp 7900GS card installed and can play COD4 perfectly well on a 19" monitor, I can watch 720p .mkv Movies perfectly, I can encode DVD's from my DVcamcorder without problem, I use photo editors to work on my 13MP images.... I guess the only thing I can't do is play Crysis or FarCry 2

grumpyone;4512832

I can assure you - you are talking rubbish!Sure it's not a multi-core CPU … I can assure you - you are talking rubbish!Sure it's not a multi-core CPU - but the Northwood P4 CPU was very well regarded - I still have several PCs with these CPUs and they are capable of much more than just web browsing and basic tasks!Too many times folks come on here and just talk F*****g C**p!



Totally agree. My HTPC had a P4 3.2 & 2GB RAM and ran Vista fine. When it had XP Media Center on it, it was really nippy too!
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