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Calibre Saw high spec (for price) mountain bike half price at Go Outdoors: now £249.00 (was £329, RRP £500).
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Calibre Saw high spec (for price) mountain bike half price at Go Outdoors: now £249.00 (was £329, RRP £500).

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Posted 4th Jun 2018Edited by:"Besford"
Go Outdoors has a pretty good reputation for their bikes and this one looks to be excellent value at this price: the £500 RRP is probably inflated but this appears to be a genuine reduction from £329.

Spec includes Shimano hydraulic disc brakes (unusual at this price point) and Suntour forks with 100mm travel. 21 speed Shimano Acera based gears; aluminium frame of course. For comparison: at a slightly higher 'reduced' price of £264 the Carrera Crossfire 2 only offers mechanical discs, 75mm travel forks, Tourney gears and it's a kilo heavier too.

5/5 star rating from all but one reviewer.

S, M and L sizes all in stock at the time of posting.
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Looks OK for £249, but isn't it a bit misleading to call it "high spec"? The components all look budget spec to me, and nothing wrong with that for the price.
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Looks OK for £249, but isn't it a bit misleading to call it "high spec"? The components all look budget spec to me, and nothing wrong with that for the price.
Ag
M_z12 m ago

Looks OK for £249, but isn't it a bit misleading to call it "high spec"? …Looks OK for £249, but isn't it a bit misleading to call it "high spec"? The components all look budget spec to me, and nothing wrong with that for the price.


Agreed. I guess I meant high spec at this price point as explained in the blurb: clearly would be low spec on a £1000 bike!
Edited by: "Besford" 4th Jun 2018
Been this price for months. Pretty poor spec but if £250 is your budget and you really want a new bike (as opposed to taking a punt on Gumtree) then this is probably as good as you are going to get.
Acera gears are not normally found on a true £500 bike. Tried those once on a bike and broke within a year.
High spec :/
£5+ for the discount card
Wat.wat13 m ago

£5+ for the discount card


I've just tried PayPal payment to see what final price is and it's showing the op price, which is the go outdoors discount card price, so I don't see why anyone needs to pay £5 for a discount card
Was expecting this to be rubbish but to be fair I think this is pretty good for 250.
windta1ker04/06/2018 18:09

High spec :/


Please read the thread. I can't put it all in the headline. Changed it for you though.
Edited by: "Besford" 4th Jun 2018
Besford37 m ago

Please read the thread. I can't put it all in the headline. Changed it …Please read the thread. I can't put it all in the headline. Changed it for you though.


I think this is a great deal, so much better than other pieces of *$%< that get put on here, but high spec it is not
Besford04/06/2018 19:42

Please read the thread. I can't put it all in the headline. Changed it …Please read the thread. I can't put it all in the headline. Changed it for you though.


And I’m not convinced they shimano brakes, think they’re Clarks
How does this compare to a Carrera vengeance? At £264 last time i looked.
If you're not bothered about buying new it's possible to pick up good used bikes from local FB pages and Ebay too and obviously on Ebay you can change search settings to bikes fairly local to you for ease of collection,although some people will post them to you,there are a lot of second hand bikes out there owned by people that only used them on a few occasions,and you can pick up bikes with a good spec like this in good cosmetic condition
This isn't a mountain bike. No proper mountain bike has a freewheel which means the rear wheel axle could be bent after the first drop. This is more mountain bike style. I realise it has decent brakes and reasonable fork but you seriously couldn't use it off road with a freewheel like that unless very light rider or careful with it. Very poorly chosen spec in my opinion but I suppose replacing the rear wheel with a freehub wheel and getting a 7 speed cassette wouldn't be a huge cost but it could add another £50 minus whatever you can get for the old rear wheel and freewheel. You do occasionally get mountain bikes with 21 gears that use a 7 speed cassette and have a freehub but that is rare normally when you see 21 gears its a freewheel and this one certainly looks like a freewheel.

This shouldn't be compared to Carrera bikes for similar money that are freehub equipped.
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Seriously I'd probably wait and get a Halfords Carrera bike. On the plus side I like the colour.
bonzobanana:
This isn't a mountain bike. No proper mountain bike has a freewheel which means the rear wheel axle could be bent after the first drop. This is more mountain bike style. I realise it has decent brakes and reasonable fork but you seriously couldn't use it off road with a freewheel like that unless very light rider or careful with it. Very poorly chosen spec in my opinion but I suppose replacing the rear wheel with a freehub wheel and getting a 7 speed cassette wouldn't be a huge cost but it could add another £50 minus whatever you can get for the old rear wheel and freewheel. You do occasionally get mountain bikes with 21 gears that use a 7 speed cassette and have a freehub but that is rare normally when you see 21 gears its a freewheel and this one certainly looks like a freewheel.

This shouldn't be compared to Carrera bikes for similar money that are freehub equipped.

Aren't freewheels very uncommon on any bike since the 1980s? And as this is Shimano Acera, and you can buy a 7 speed Acera cassette for a Shimano freehub, I'd think this is what is going to be on this bike. It's a budget bike, but it's not a supermarket bike with unbrand components.
M_z1 m ago

bonzobanana:This isn't a mountain bike. No proper mountain bike has a …bonzobanana:This isn't a mountain bike. No proper mountain bike has a freewheel which means the rear wheel axle could be bent after the first drop. This is more mountain bike style. I realise it has decent brakes and reasonable fork but you seriously couldn't use it off road with a freewheel like that unless very light rider or careful with it. Very poorly chosen spec in my opinion but I suppose replacing the rear wheel with a freehub wheel and getting a 7 speed cassette wouldn't be a huge cost but it could add another £50 minus whatever you can get for the old rear wheel and freewheel. You do occasionally get mountain bikes with 21 gears that use a 7 speed cassette and have a freehub but that is rare normally when you see 21 gears its a freewheel and this one certainly looks like a freewheel.This shouldn't be compared to Carrera bikes for similar money that are freehub equipped.Aren't freewheels very uncommon on any bike since the 1980s? And as this is Shimano Acera, and you can buy a 7 speed Acera cassette for a Shimano freehub, I'd think this is what is going to be on this bike. It's a budget bike, but it's not a supermarket bike with unbrand components.


but its got 2 wheels tho
bonzobanana04/06/2018 22:29

This isn't a mountain bike. No proper mountain bike has a freewheel which …This isn't a mountain bike. No proper mountain bike has a freewheel which means the rear wheel axle could be bent after the first drop. This is more mountain bike style. I realise it has decent brakes and reasonable fork but you seriously couldn't use it off road with a freewheel like that unless very light rider or careful with it. Very poorly chosen spec in my opinion but I suppose replacing the rear wheel with a freehub wheel and getting a 7 speed cassette wouldn't be a huge cost but it could add another £50 minus whatever you can get for the old rear wheel and freewheel. You do occasionally get mountain bikes with 21 gears that use a 7 speed cassette and have a freehub but that is rare normally when you see 21 gears its a freewheel and this one certainly looks like a freewheel.This shouldn't be compared to Carrera bikes for similar money that are freehub equipped.


I think you’re missing the point, other than free wheel it ain’t bad compared to some other ‘starter’ bikes that get posted on here. Most people that buy this bike aren’t going to be doing gap jumps or drop offs :/ if I bent my rear axel doodling along some bridal ways, gravel tracks, I’d be straight back in the shop demanding a refund on the premise it’s not fit for purpose
windta1ker04/06/2018 23:48

I think you’re missing the point, other than free wheel it ain’t bad com …I think you’re missing the point, other than free wheel it ain’t bad compared to some other ‘starter’ bikes that get posted on here. Most people that buy this bike aren’t going to be doing gap jumps or drop offs :/ if I bent my rear axel doodling along some bridal ways, gravel tracks, I’d be straight back in the shop demanding a refund on the premise it’s not fit for purpose


Btw what’s a ‘proper’ mtb bike?
Why is this listing marked as free?
windta1ker04/06/2018 23:48

Btw what’s a ‘proper’ mtb bike?


Depends on the user, to some if you can’t point it downhill and ride fort bill,
in my eyes if it doesn’t go up and down cutgate both ways comfortably then it’s not a mtb, to others as long as it can go down a canal towpath and or local bridleways (off-road) then it’s a mtb
33916118.jpgBasically the axle is more likely to bend with a freewheel because the bearing position is inboard of the sprockets where the load is applied.
The trouble is we don't know if this bike has a freehub or freewheel, so may be irrelevant, the chances are it's freewheel given it's only 7 speed and the picture shows a nutted axle rather than qr.
Edited by: "winchman" 5th Jun 2018
whatyadoinsucka38 m ago

Depends on the user, to some if you can’t point it downhill and ride fort b …Depends on the user, to some if you can’t point it downhill and ride fort bill, in my eyes if it doesn’t go up and down cutgate both ways comfortably then it’s not a mtb, to others as long as it can go down a canal towpath and or local bridleways (off-road) then it’s a mtb


Exactly my point, can’t dismiss this bike as it’s not a proper mtb, when it could be perfectly adequate for some uses
winchman05/06/2018 06:36

[Image] Basically the axle is more likely to bend with a freewheel because …[Image] Basically the axle is more likely to bend with a freewheel because the bearing position is inboard of the sprockets where the load is applied.The trouble is we don't know if this bike has a freehub or freewheel, so may be irrelevant.

We do know that the gears are Shimano Acera though, so it's from a respected manufacturer of bike components. We also know that the Acera range includes 7 speed freehub cassettes. We also know that freewheels haven't been used much since the 1980s.
To me, this makes it extremely unlikely that this bike has anything other than a freehub.
Can anybody that knows anything about mountain bikes recommended a good price to performance bike.

When the good weather comes I often go to the peak district with a couple of mates. I currently rent a bike.

At the £250 to £500 price bracket. Is this a good buy?

I just need something that is not going to fall apart the first time I hit a jump and fall off.
M_z1 h, 28 m ago

We do know that the gears are Shimano Acera though, so it's from a …We do know that the gears are Shimano Acera though, so it's from a respected manufacturer of bike components. We also know that the Acera range includes 7 speed freehub cassettes. We also know that freewheels haven't been used much since the 1980s.To me, this makes it extremely unlikely that this bike has anything other than a freehub.


If you look at this image it looks like a freewheel, not a cassette, there is no lockring, just bronze edge.
Compare it to this freewheel amazon.co.uk/Shi…YPU
looks the same, as I said the fact its a nutted axle would suggest its a cheaper freewheel not freehub.

It doesn't look like this(obviously different colour, but can see the lockring):
amazon.co.uk/Hol…E6/

Still a chance the pictures on the bike listing are just stock and not actual images.
Edited by: "winchman" 5th Jun 2018
mikem198905/06/2018 07:50

Can anybody that knows anything about mountain bikes recommended a good …Can anybody that knows anything about mountain bikes recommended a good price to performance bike. When the good weather comes I often go to the peak district with a couple of mates. I currently rent a bike.At the £250 to £500 price bracket. Is this a good buy?I just need something that is not going to fall apart the first time I hit a jump and fall off.


as a bare minimum look for a bike that has a shimano deore drivetrain (that is shimano's true offroad spec.

the more money you spend the better the ride and comfort, ive done the ladybower loop numerous times, first time was on a cube acid hardtail (rockshox airfork and deore) it managed to get around,
last few times i've done it on better and better spec'd bikes, you can tell the difference..
although diminishing returns the more you spend.
mikem198942 m ago

Can anybody that knows anything about mountain bikes recommended a good …Can anybody that knows anything about mountain bikes recommended a good price to performance bike. When the good weather comes I often go to the peak district with a couple of mates. I currently rent a bike.At the £250 to £500 price bracket. Is this a good buy?I just need something that is not going to fall apart the first time I hit a jump and fall off.


Not going to claim to be an expert, but the best deal I have seen recently here was for a Voodoo Bizango which with discounts and offers was a fair bit under £500 - but it is over that price now as its peak selling time. I think timing is crucial if you want to get a good deal on a quality bike, earlier in the year they are often selling off last years stock, so you can find a year old model going with a big discount - so you might see a £800 bike for under £500.
M_z5th Jun 2018

We do know that the gears are Shimano Acera though, so it's from a …We do know that the gears are Shimano Acera though, so it's from a respected manufacturer of bike components. We also know that the Acera range includes 7 speed freehub cassettes. We also know that freewheels haven't been used much since the 1980s.To me, this makes it extremely unlikely that this bike has anything other than a freehub.


33916488-HkXeq.jpg


33916488-9ou6x.jpgIt's easy to match a Deore derailleur with a freewheel if you wanted to but when I look at the Go Outdoors images I can clearly see a 'Z' in the text on the granny gear indicating a freewheel. Also the inner ring of the freewheel can be clearly seen on the go outdoors images just below the mounting of the derailleur.

productinfo.shimano.com/

It's a strange situation when there is Acera/Altus range that recognises a 7 speed freewheel yet the top tier of Tourney is 8 speed with a freehub. Maybe a budget solution for some markets. The cassettes look freewheel grade anyway but more importantly this bike at least going by Go Outdoors images is a freewheel. You can see the difference between the freewheel at the top and the cassette below it.

The issue with freewheels are softer weaker metal for the cogs, small ratcheting mechanism with small pawls that is much easier to break, freewheel wobble because often the thread isn't perfectly machined on the inside of the freewheel or on rear hub itself causing more problematic shifting, ratcheting mechanism more vulnerable to water with inferior seals but most importantly the extra pressure and bending force on the rear axle which can cause it to snap if a quick release is fitted or bend if a solid axle. Sometimes a slight bend will cause poor shifting, brake rubbing (rim brakes).

You basically have exactly the same quality components as those low cost dual suspension bikes that everyone criticises for being poor quality but in fact the rear suspension on such bikes can take the shock out of a drop on the rear axle so you could do a drop on such a bike and not bend the rear axle where as the same drop on the Calilbre Saw would bend it. Hardtails obviously give the rear axle a harder time than dual suspension hence why a freehub is more important.

I think the design of the Calibre Saw is a bit cynical, it basically looks like a real mountain bike on the surface but they have gone cheap in a few places which makes it a very poor choice in my opinion. Especially as much stronger Carrera bikes are often at the same price.

Edited by: "bonzobanana" 5th Jun 2018
mikem198905/06/2018 07:50

Can anybody that knows anything about mountain bikes recommended a good …Can anybody that knows anything about mountain bikes recommended a good price to performance bike. When the good weather comes I often go to the peak district with a couple of mates. I currently rent a bike.At the £250 to £500 price bracket. Is this a good buy?I just need something that is not going to fall apart the first time I hit a jump and fall off.


If you can push your cash than calibre actually have few nice bikes and bang for buck worth considering m.gooutdoors.co.uk/cal…NrA
whatyadoinsucka34 m ago

as a bare minimum look for a bike that has a shimano deore drivetrain …as a bare minimum look for a bike that has a shimano deore drivetrain (that is shimano's true offroad spec.the more money you spend the better the ride and comfort, ive done the ladybower loop numerous times, first time was on a cube acid hardtail (rockshox airfork and deore) it managed to get around, last few times i've done it on better and better spec'd bikes, you can tell the difference..although diminishing returns the more you spend.



You are right in that Deore is a good place to have quality kit, but Altus and Acera will do the job, just more agricultural and heavier, but its all you can expect at £250. I think this is much better, just add your own wheels.
Edited by: "winchman" 5th Jun 2018
Arkz5th Jun

Why is this listing marked as free?


No idea but fixed it now. Thanks for pointing it out.
I would take the high spec out the listing as even for new riders just starting out this cannot be regarded as high spec .
How can you select the correct size ? S , M and L don’t indicate size just differences..
princerupert9 m ago

How can you select the correct size ? S , M and L don’t indicate size j …How can you select the correct size ? S , M and L don’t indicate size just differences..


Chances are these will be something like 15", 17" and 19" but probably worth checking with Go Outdoors to be sure if you can't get to a store.

Update: Just found this for a different model but may be some indication:


gooutdoors.co.uk/cal…792
Edited by: "Besford" 5th Jun 2018
Thanks Besford ^
windta1ker5th Jun 2018

If you can push your cash than calibre actually have few nice bikes and …If you can push your cash than calibre actually have few nice bikes and bang for buck worth considering http://m.gooutdoors.co.uk/calibre-bossnut-v2-mountain-bike-p403001&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrtvWgYK82wIVw7ztCh0iGQT5EAQYAiABEgKsHvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CNnemIaCvNsCFcQh0wod-xQNrA


Tempting but I think that's a bit much considering how much I would actually use it.

I could push the boat out to about 600 quid but not much more.
windta1ker04/06/2018 20:27

And I’m not convinced they shimano brakes, think they’re Clarks


Listed as Shimano in the spec but I wouldn't have a problem with Clarks anyway, would you?
Besford25 m ago

Listed as Shimano in the spec but I wouldn't have a problem with Clarks …Listed as Shimano in the spec but I wouldn't have a problem with Clarks anyway, would you?


As long as they stop you listed differently here calibrebicycles.com/bik…aw/
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