Camping Site Mains Supply Unit - 3 Outlet £24.99 (£3.95 del / Free CnC ) - Towsure
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Camping Site Mains Supply Unit - 3 Outlet £24.99 (£3.95 del / Free CnC ) - Towsure

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Found 5th May 2015
my first submission so go easy !

3 Outlet complete mains kit for outdoor use in tents and awnings. Complies to BS6500 and BS4343 standards.

Complete with two clips on rear to fasten to tent/trailer tent/awning pole. No assembly or wiring required, just clip to tent pole and plug in to site hookup

* 3 way 13a socket
* Distribution box with transparent window
* 10a twin pole circuit breaker
* 20m 25a cable
* 240 volt UK site plug.

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Just be aware on some of these hookup cables as the orientation of the plug holes can be a pain. The blue flaps hinge a certain way and so when you put a big plug in it gets in the way of the plug hole below. You can get some where the plug holes face the outside and so the trailing cable doesn't get in the way of the next plug hole. Hope that makes sense.

Good price but £4.95 delivery for this item

as adamjon says they are a complete pain in the a***.

You can plug extension cables into these to make the orientation less of an issue if it was causing problems

We have one and can not use one of our sockets because of the orientation of the plug Sockets.You would think this would be a contributing factor when they design and make these things

You could just use an ordinary (outdoor) extension cable, and a 16A 240v plug, and wire it yourself (as long as you know what you're doing). Can do this for ~£10.

JoeyJoeC

You could just use an ordinary (outdoor) extension cable, and a 16A 240v … You could just use an ordinary (outdoor) extension cable, and a 16A 240v plug, and wire it yourself (as long as you know what you're doing). Can do this for ~£10.



Only if you KNOW it is connected to a socket which contains a working RCD!!
And it will not of course be water resistant at all!

JoeyJoeC

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Status-S5M13ACR5-Socket-Cassette-Thermal/dp/B006Z93Y80/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1430897365&sr=8-7&keywords=outdoor+extension+leadwith one of these http://www.amazon.co.uk/Faithfull-Power-Plus-PLUG16AMP-Replacement/dp/B000C750TM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1430897429&sr=8-3&keywords=240v+plugand some basic wiring skills...



Not suitable unless you KNOW you are connecting it to a tested RCD socket. (The extension lead contains a thermal cutout but not an RCD)

Edited by: "jasee" 6th May 2015

PS What is not mentioned in the Towsure ad, but is mentioned in the Crusader (the makers) blurb is that the supply unit contains a 10 amp circuit breaker AND a 25amp RCD

Looks identical to the Crusader branded one I bought off Amazon for £31 last year.

On that model the orange cable was attached poorly as the grommet was way too large and didn't restrict the cable's movement causing it to intermittently disconnect internally. Worryingly this didn't cause the RCD to trip so I have to seriously question the safety of this item?

To his credit the seller immediately took the item off sale and replaced my unit with a Sunncamp model (with looks nearly identical but with grey socket covers) which I have to say was considerably better made (and came complete with a carry case).

This highlights one of my biggest bugbears with the amazon market which meant that there were sellers displaying the image for the Sunncamp version but selling the inferior crusader model. This is down to the way that Amazon allows sellers to list similar products against stock images. I have fallen foul of this issue a few times and Amazon (not being a British company) seems to think that it is ok to flout our consumer laws and risk our lives!

So following my experience.. If you value your or your families life while out camping my recommendation would be to pay the extra and insist on the Sunncamp version of this unit as there is most definitely a difference in quality and it only costs a few pounds more.

JoeyJoeC

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Status-S5M13ACR5-Socket-Cassette-Thermal/dp/B006Z93Y80/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1430897365&sr=8-7&keywords=outdoor+extension+leadwith one of these http://www.amazon.co.uk/Faithfull-Power-Plus-PLUG16AMP-Replacement/dp/B000C750TM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1430897429&sr=8-3&keywords=240v+plugand some basic wiring skills...



Do you really think its acceptable to post this?

Will you feel any guilt when somebody who doesn't have a clue gets electrocuted?

Good price but even on the Suncamp one mined, that I have, the flaps will inevitably restrict in some way. A simple adaptor /extension sorts it, although for more money you could look at the Outwell/ Go Outdoors reel which also includes 2 USB sockets.

jasee

Only if you KNOW it is connected to a socket which contains a working … Only if you KNOW it is connected to a socket which contains a working RCD!!And it will not of course be water resistant at all!



Why wouldn't it be water resistant? You shouldn't have the socket part outside anyway.
Edited by: "JoeyJoeC" 6th May 2015

Bejeezus

Do you really think its acceptable to post this?Will you feel any guilt … Do you really think its acceptable to post this?Will you feel any guilt when somebody who doesn't have a clue gets electrocuted?



Well obviously if they decide to do it, then they should know what they're doing. Their choice not mine.

Proper camping doesn't involve the use of electricity ;p

JoeyJoeC

Why wouldn't it be water resistant? You shouldn't have the socket part … Why wouldn't it be water resistant? You shouldn't have the socket part outside anyway.



Have you ever heard of condensation?

I run a campsite and will only allow hook up units with an rdc to be used and yes I check. I's not just rain and condensation that can cause a problem.On my site all electric points are 16 amp and I started checking after finding a toddler poking a metal fork into a home made hook up!

CAD666

I run a campsite and will only allow hook up units with an rdc to be used … I run a campsite and will only allow hook up units with an rdc to be used and yes I check. I's not just rain and condensation that can cause a problem.On my site all electric points are 16 amp and I started checking after finding a toddler poking a metal fork into a home made hook up!



surely your power points have an RCD fitted? If so this is a double up which is not necessary with RCDs.

In principle it is a 16 amp plug with armoured cable? fitted to a three way extension.

weather tightness of the plug is negligible this is why the wire end always points down the way so gravity does the work.

I use a modified extension lead so 3 pin standard plug removed with 16 amp plug fitted. In the use a separate RCD on each plug socket.

Safe and if you can wire a plug. not sure why this would be any more dangerous than 15 years ago when nothing came with plugs. Remember the bad old days

Bejeezus

Have you ever heard of condensation?



Condensation would get anywhere anyway.

I'm a qualified PAT tester, and have worked on all kinds of electrical equipment, mainly those used outdoors for many many years. I'm going to leave this post now before my brain implodes from the old man comments on here, that have ZERO experience. I know what I'm talking about. You don't have a clue.

Bejeezus

Looks identical to the Crusader branded one I bought off Amazon for £31 … Looks identical to the Crusader branded one I bought off Amazon for £31 last year.On that model the orange cable was attached poorly as the grommet was way too large and didn't restrict the cable's movement causing it to intermittently disconnect internally. Worryingly this didn't cause the RCD to trip so I have to seriously question the safety of this item?.



That shouldn't cause an RCD to trip, that should only trip if there was a leakage between the live and the earth, or anything connected to the earth (e.g you )
And it shouldn't cause the circuit breaker to trip as it wasn't drawing more than ten amps. in practice, it might if the current drawn was high and the disconnection was frequent. The ten amp circuit breaker is designed to protect the flex from short circuit or overheating between it and wherever the extension cable is connected to.
As is usually the case, either can turn the one switch off, however the RCD has a additional button which should be pressed occasionally to check that it is working. It should switch the switch off.
Another point is that some exterior sockets are designed to be water resistant only when a plug is not plugged into them (and they are closed)
Some exterior sockets are designed to be water resistant when a standard plug is plugged into them and they are closed.
It's not clear which type these sockets are but I think they are the former. So they are not water resistant when plugs are plugged in.

If it helps, I bought something similar from go outdoors. On the picture it had the orientation of the plugs in the awkward way like these. Looked in side and the plugs were facing to the side which meant no problems. If you can get them to doule check the orientation then it may just be an old photo.

I think they were only £30 in go outdoors so not too much difference in price too.

jasee

AND a 25amp RCD


Surely you mean 25mA (milli-amp)?

A 25amp RCD wouldn't offer any protection at all.

nick1austin

Surely you mean 25mA (milli-amp)?A 25amp RCD wouldn't offer any … Surely you mean 25mA (milli-amp)?A 25amp RCD wouldn't offer any protection at all.



It doesn't break when the amperage is too high, it breaks if there is a current leakage. The RCD has to be higher to count for the sudden current draw on some electrical items, such as those with motors, or heaters.

Even a phone charger on standby uses more than 25mA. RCD's don't deal with current, only faults.


Edited by: "JoeyJoeC" 6th May 2015

nick1austin

Surely you mean 25mA (milli-amp)?A 25amp RCD wouldn't offer any … Surely you mean 25mA (milli-amp)?A 25amp RCD wouldn't offer any protection at all.



No, the current carrying capacity of that switch is 25amp but it will trip at 25 milliamp (usually) or 30 milliamp, depends so it is usually know as a 25 amp RCD

JoeyJoeC

It doesn't break when the amperage is too high, it breaks if there is a … It doesn't break when the amperage is too high, it breaks if there is a current leakage. The RCD has to be higher to count for the sudden current draw on some electrical items, such as those with motors, or heaters.Even a phone charger on standby uses more than 25mA. RCD's don't deal with current, only faults.



Really? This is so garbled it makes little sense.
There was a time when anyone could be a PAT tester, all you needed was the machine and a supply of stickers. Maybe it has changed now.
Sorry, I can't believe that anyone who has been on a PAT training course could give the advice you have been giving and have so little understanding of the dangers involved with using mains electricity outdoors
For others, there's lots of good information about, for instance:
electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/gui…ty/

Excellent price. I paid £35 for one a few years back and that was cheap then. Heat added.

jasee

Really? This is so garbled it makes little sense.There was a time when … Really? This is so garbled it makes little sense.There was a time when anyone could be a PAT tester, all you needed was the machine and a supply of stickers. Maybe it has changed now. Sorry, I can't believe that anyone who has been on a PAT training course could give the advice you have been giving and have so little understanding of the dangers involved with using mains electricity outdoorsFor others, there's lots of good information about, for instance:http://www.electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/guides-and-advice/around-the-home/garden-safety/



so we need a PAT test annually now. The camping trip is getting expensive.

james-young

so we need a PAT test annually now. The camping trip is getting … so we need a PAT test annually now. The camping trip is getting expensive.



Where exactly does it say that?
Edited by: "Bejeezus" 6th May 2015

JoeyJoeC

Condensation would get anywhere anyway.I'm a qualified PAT tester, and … Condensation would get anywhere anyway.I'm a qualified PAT tester, and have worked on all kinds of electrical equipment, mainly those used outdoors for many many years. I'm going to leave this post now before my brain implodes from the old man comments on here, that have ZERO experience. I know what I'm talking about. You don't have a clue.



Translated to: Im going to run away now before my ignorance on this subject is too obvious!

I bought an extension reel with an inbuilt RCD for a tenner and changed the plug for the 16A camping type, which cost about £1.50.

Pasanda

I bought an extension reel with an inbuilt RCD for a tenner and changed … I bought an extension reel with an inbuilt RCD for a tenner and changed the plug for the 16A camping type, which cost about £1.50.



Careful, I suggested this and everyone got angry!

jasee

Really? This is so garbled it makes little sense.There was a time when … Really? This is so garbled it makes little sense.There was a time when anyone could be a PAT tester, all you needed was the machine and a supply of stickers. Maybe it has changed now. Sorry, I can't believe that anyone who has been on a PAT training course could give the advice you have been giving and have so little understanding of the dangers involved with using mains electricity outdoorsFor others, there's lots of good information about, for instance:http://www.electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/guides-and-advice/around-the-home/garden-safety/



Which part did you not understand? I will translate it into simpler English for you.

RCD's don't deal with current, they only trip if there is a short circuit.

Imagine a train track, the RCD's job is to check the train stays on it's track, it doesn't care however, about how many trains are on the track.

JoeyJoeC

Careful, I suggested this and everyone got angry!


What is the difference between this one, and the one you suggested? I've underlined the bit and put it in bold, just in case you get it wrong

Original Poster

thinks

'why cant everyone just get along ?'

Thanks - nearly got one from Go Outdoors a couple of weeks ago when they were £30!

JoeyJoeC

RCD's don't deal with current, they only trip if there is a short circuit.



Wrong again!!
They trip when a small current flows (milliamps) in the wrong circuit!!

denny29

thinks 'why cant everyone just get along ?'



Normally yes, but what is being suggested by JoeyJoeC in post #6 and #7 is wrong and potentially life threatening

Edited by: "jasee" 6th May 2015

They don't deal with the amount of current. And as I correctly said, they deal with leakage.
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