Canary All-in-One Home Security Device UK £99.99 at Ryman
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Canary All-in-One Home Security Device UK £99.99 at Ryman

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Found 5th Jul
I already have one of these and am looking to add another- works well for me. Currently £158 at Amazon.

It does require a subscription (which covers up to 5 devices) to unlock some features and video storage for more than 24hrs, Canary do sometimes offer deals on this - I recently got a years sub half price - unfortunately that has now ended.
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It looks like the silver coloured one. If it is, is suggest avoiding as they are a swine to set up (you have to use a temperamental cable, as it doesn't have wireless setup)
Thanks OP, I have two of these already. They can be temperamental but as long as you have a strong wireless signal (I ended up using ethernet/powerlines) they're great.

Need a third, this or hold out for a deal on the Canary Flex? Hmmmm
looks a lot of money for what it is compared with what you could do with a smartthings hub, cameras, sensors etc for equivalent price
45ure5 m ago

looks a lot of money for what it is compared with what you could do with a …looks a lot of money for what it is compared with what you could do with a smartthings hub, cameras, sensors etc for equivalent price


Care to expand a little more? Any guides you could link to? I'm already invested in Canary but would like to see what's out there before I invest any further...

I guess most people are willing to pay a premium for a product that requires little to no set up - just plug and play (and then pay a small fortune in subscription fees!)
Just noticed there's 8.4% cashback at Ryman for the next 4 days with TCB (brings this down to £91.59 if they pay out)
Sorry - the photos not clear - they have black or white. Setup is wireless.

@cgap - yes I am holding out for a Flex deal also.

The Canary person detection is very intelligent - not once has it been confused by our large dog...I have seen reviews of other products *some on the gadget show) where they fail to detect and notify or perform very slowly. The Canary works for me, hence why have ponied up for another.
Edited by: "slartyb" 5th Jul
pure junk not worth £99
cgap1 h, 48 m ago

Care to expand a little more? Any guides you could link to? I'm already …Care to expand a little more? Any guides you could link to? I'm already invested in Canary but would like to see what's out there before I invest any further...I guess most people are willing to pay a premium for a product that requires little to no set up - just plug and play (and then pay a small fortune in subscription fees!)


The following should give some background if you don't know of it plus various videos on youtube etc no doubt
smartthings.com/uk
community.smartthings.com/
amazon.co.uk/s/r…ngs


and then you get into ActionTiles etc also


support.actiontiles.com/com…els

but I would expect you can do a lot with Smart things for the kind of money quoted here
Edited by: "45ure" 5th Jul
Canary suddenly and unexpectedly crippled their 'free' service in lieu of the new subscription. What is stopping them from doing this again in the future? Without a subscription there are much much better and cheaper alternatives to this expensive doorstop. With a subscription, there are still better alternatives. Avoid like the plague. Cold even if it was free.
mgowans2 h, 28 m ago

Canary suddenly and unexpectedly crippled their 'free' service in lieu of …Canary suddenly and unexpectedly crippled their 'free' service in lieu of the new subscription. What is stopping them from doing this again in the future? Without a subscription there are much much better and cheaper alternatives to this expensive doorstop. With a subscription, there are still better alternatives. Avoid like the plague. Cold even if it was free.


I agree. It's now useless without a subscription. I find Logitech circle much better value for money.
45ure5th Jul

The following should give some background if you don't know of it plus …The following should give some background if you don't know of it plus various videos on youtube etc no doubthttps://www.smartthings.com/ukhttps://community.smartthings.com/https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=smartthingsand then you get into ActionTiles etc alsohttps://support.actiontiles.com/communities/12/topics/1433-show-me-your-panelsbut I would expect you can do a lot with Smart things for the kind of money quoted here


Am I missing something? Have been looking into smartthings as I'm genuinely interested but it certainly doesn't seem to be any cheaper? To replace the two canary setup I use at home I'd need the hub, two cameras and two motion sensors right? That's the best part of £400! Then alarms as well? And do all of these items potentially need separate power sockets (depending on placement?) I like the all in one unit that canary provides.

I get that there's no subscription fees with smartthings and that there's scope to add a lot more features to create a true smart home but to tear the canary down on price seems a bit unfair. The units are quite often on deals such as this for £100 and work well in my experience. Plus there are occasional deals on the subscription fee itself.

I guess it boils down to what your individual requirements are. I might still go down the smartthings route at some point once I've got my head round it a bit more. But canary satisfies my current needs right now and is very simple to set up and use.
cgap2 h, 28 m ago

Am I missing something? Have been looking into smartthings as I'm …Am I missing something? Have been looking into smartthings as I'm genuinely interested but it certainly doesn't seem to be any cheaper? To replace the two canary setup I use at home I'd need the hub, two cameras and two motion sensors right? That's the best part of £400! Then alarms as well? And do all of these items potentially need separate power sockets (depending on placement?) I like the all in one unit that canary provides.I get that there's no subscription fees with smartthings and that there's scope to add a lot more features to create a true smart home but to tear the canary down on price seems a bit unfair. The units are quite often on deals such as this for £100 and work well in my experience. Plus there are occasional deals on the subscription fee itself.I guess it boils down to what your individual requirements are. I might still go down the smartthings route at some point once I've got my head round it a bit more. But canary satisfies my current needs right now and is very simple to set up and use.


Depends where and when you buy the items I guess, the thing with Smartthings is it's compatible with lots of products.
Hub £100 (often on offer at Currys or Amazon ) , motion sensors I use Xiaomi - typically I paid around £7 per sensor because I wait for the sale every couple of months but here are some examples...
Motion sensor for £11
gearbest.com/ala…363
Door/WIndow sensor £6 ! - I have these all over my house
Xiaomi Aqara Window Door Sensor
Wireless switch that you can programme to do what ever.... £6
gearbest.com/acc…tml
TEmperature sensor £12
gearbest.com/acc…tml

There are lots of camera brands to choose from - I use Foscam because already had some....
This one is £44 but can get other brands for less etc
amazon.co.uk/Fos…cam

PLus smartthings works with IFTTT hence a myraid of smart plugs and lights ... so if a sensor 'sneses' somethign you can programme an action etc.

So for 2 cameras and 2 motion sensors and hub - could prob do that for around £230ish (prob much less with shopping around)
Plus once you have the hub then the multpplier on that to add more cameras etc is much less - think how many extra door/window and motion sensors etc up to £400 ish


And there is SO much more - compatible smoke detector for £22... so if the alram goes it can turn your lights on, trgger your house alarm send a text message etc
hotukdeals.com/dea…482

Works with Google & Alexa etc... and loads more....

Just look at all the deals on hotukdeals for compatible kit... for example....
hotukdeals.com/sea…bee

hhotukdeals.com/sea…e=2


so yes possiblities are endless it is very flexible but you must decide what you want it to do and put the time in - hence it's not for everyone
cgap2 h, 31 m ago

Am I missing something? Have been looking into smartthings as I'm …Am I missing something? Have been looking into smartthings as I'm genuinely interested but it certainly doesn't seem to be any cheaper? To replace the two canary setup I use at home I'd need the hub, two cameras and two motion sensors right? That's the best part of £400! Then alarms as well? And do all of these items potentially need separate power sockets (depending on placement?) I like the all in one unit that canary provides.I get that there's no subscription fees with smartthings and that there's scope to add a lot more features to create a true smart home but to tear the canary down on price seems a bit unfair. The units are quite often on deals such as this for £100 and work well in my experience. Plus there are occasional deals on the subscription fee itself.I guess it boils down to what your individual requirements are. I might still go down the smartthings route at some point once I've got my head round it a bit more. But canary satisfies my current needs right now and is very simple to set up and use.


oh and there's no subscription charge etc - although obviously if you say combine it with a Ring doorbell or otehrs then there may be a price there
45ure11 h, 24 m ago

Depends where and when you buy the items I guess, the thing with …Depends where and when you buy the items I guess, the thing with Smartthings is it's compatible with lots of products.Hub £100 (often on offer at Currys or Amazon ) , motion sensors I use Xiaomi - typically I paid around £7 per sensor because I wait for the sale every couple of months but here are some examples...Motion sensor for £11https://www.gearbest.com/alarm-systems/pp_659226.html?wid=1433363Door/WIndow sensor £6 ! - I have these all over my houseXiaomi Aqara Window Door Sensor Wireless switch that you can programme to do what ever.... £6https://www.gearbest.com/access-control/pp_626695.htmlTEmperature sensor £12https://www.gearbest.com/access-control/pp_626702.htmlThere are lots of camera brands to choose from - I use Foscam because already had some....This one is £44 but can get other brands for less etchttps://www.amazon.co.uk/Foscam-C1-Camera-Wireless-Detection/dp/B00T7NX6SY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1530908925&sr=8-3&keywords=foscamPLus smartthings works with IFTTT hence a myraid of smart plugs and lights ... so if a sensor 'sneses' somethign you can programme an action etc.So for 2 cameras and 2 motion sensors and hub - could prob do that for around £230ish (prob much less with shopping around)Plus once you have the hub then the multpplier on that to add more cameras etc is much less - think how many extra door/window and motion sensors etc up to £400 ishAnd there is SO much more - compatible smoke detector for £22... so if the alram goes it can turn your lights on, trgger your house alarm send a text message etchttps://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/xiaomi-honeywell-zigbee-smoke-detector-2202-at-banggood-2938482Works with Google & Alexa etc... and loads more....Just look at all the deals on hotukdeals for compatible kit... for example....https://www.hotukdeals.com/search?q=xiaomi+zigbeehttps://www.hotukdeals.com/search?q=smartthings&page=2so yes possiblities are endless it is very flexible but you must decide what you want it to do and put the time in - hence it's not for everyone


Appreciate you taking the time to explain and share links. I was getting prices based on the Amazon promoted gadgets from big named brands, I'm unversed in gearbest etc and the chinese brands. Is there a HUKD group/forum for smarthome discussion? I've only used the deals section of the site. Would be good to keep up to date with new gear and get more tips.
cgap18 h, 0 m ago

Am I missing something? Have been looking into smartthings as I'm …Am I missing something? Have been looking into smartthings as I'm genuinely interested but it certainly doesn't seem to be any cheaper? To replace the two canary setup I use at home I'd need the hub, two cameras and two motion sensors right? That's the best part of £400! Then alarms as well? And do all of these items potentially need separate power sockets (depending on placement?) I like the all in one unit that canary provides.I get that there's no subscription fees with smartthings and that there's scope to add a lot more features to create a true smart home but to tear the canary down on price seems a bit unfair. The units are quite often on deals such as this for £100 and work well in my experience. Plus there are occasional deals on the subscription fee itself.I guess it boils down to what your individual requirements are. I might still go down the smartthings route at some point once I've got my head round it a bit more. But canary satisfies my current needs right now and is very simple to set up and use.



cgap18 h, 0 m ago

Am I missing something? Have been looking into smartthings as I'm …Am I missing something? Have been looking into smartthings as I'm genuinely interested but it certainly doesn't seem to be any cheaper? To replace the two canary setup I use at home I'd need the hub, two cameras and two motion sensors right? That's the best part of £400! Then alarms as well? And do all of these items potentially need separate power sockets (depending on placement?) I like the all in one unit that canary provides.I get that there's no subscription fees with smartthings and that there's scope to add a lot more features to create a true smart home but to tear the canary down on price seems a bit unfair. The units are quite often on deals such as this for £100 and work well in my experience. Plus there are occasional deals on the subscription fee itself.I guess it boils down to what your individual requirements are. I might still go down the smartthings route at some point once I've got my head round it a bit more. But canary satisfies my current needs right now and is very simple to set up and use.



cgap18 h, 0 m ago

Am I missing something? Have been looking into smartthings as I'm …Am I missing something? Have been looking into smartthings as I'm genuinely interested but it certainly doesn't seem to be any cheaper? To replace the two canary setup I use at home I'd need the hub, two cameras and two motion sensors right? That's the best part of £400! Then alarms as well? And do all of these items potentially need separate power sockets (depending on placement?) I like the all in one unit that canary provides.I get that there's no subscription fees with smartthings and that there's scope to add a lot more features to create a true smart home but to tear the canary down on price seems a bit unfair. The units are quite often on deals such as this for £100 and work well in my experience. Plus there are occasional deals on the subscription fee itself.I guess it boils down to what your individual requirements are. I might still go down the smartthings route at some point once I've got my head round it a bit more. But canary satisfies my current needs right now and is very simple to set up and use.


sorry don't know if there is a HUKD group, but to be honest I would just go to the wider internet communities - I have chosen Smartthings and would stick with the links for that (above). As said Smartthings is not necessarily the easiest you can go for a simpler approach or go more complicated but then you get more from it, for example I have a house with an old wired alarm with sensors etc , I didnt want to replace all those sensors etc but for a few pounds (less than 30) I can connect that to Smartthings and interface to all those sensors etc as well.

See...

konnected.io/
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