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Canon LEGRIA FS200 Flash Memory Camcorder With FREE Carry Case & 4GB Memory Card - £179.99 delivered @ Play.com
Canon LEGRIA FS200 Flash Memory Camcorder With FREE Carry Case & 4GB Memory Card - £179.99 delivered @ Play.com

Canon LEGRIA FS200 Flash Memory Camcorder With FREE Carry Case & 4GB Memory Card - £179.99 delivered @ Play.com

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Perfect for carrying wherever you go, the LEGRIA FS200 records straight to memory card - great for sharing with friends. Moviemaking is fun and easy with Video Snapshot, Pre REC and Dual Shot mode. Recording movies to flash memory, the LEGRIA FS200 is incredibly compact. Weighing just 230g, you can carry it with you wherever you go.

Value Up Kit Includes - 4GB SD Card and Soft Case
# Incredibly compact design
# SD or SDHC memory card recording
# Video Snapshot
# 41x Advanced Zoom
# Pre REC
# Intelligent battery system and high speed charging
# Microphone and headphone jacks
# Dual Shot
# PIXELA software supplied

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yes but is it any good?

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Specifications

# Megapixel: 0.8
# Optical zoom: 37 x
# Digital Zoom: 2000 x
# Microphone connectivity
# Headphone connectivity
# LCD Screen: Size 2.7 "
# Maximum aperture: 2.0- 5.2
# Minimum Focusing: Distance 10 mm
# Interface: AV, DC, USB 2.0 Hi Speed
# Image stabilizer: Electronic
# Compatible memory cards: SD / SDHC
# Supplied Accessories: Battery, Charger, Manual
# Warranty: 1 Years RTB Warranty

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Low light poor.... as can seen seen in any Google search, just like every other CMOS SD card camera, so ideal if your video is to be outdoors in good light, but Christmas in with the family is going to need lighting up like a Christmas tree :-(

Loads of info out there on this cam and on he problem with CMOS cameras in low light, but everytime I post it, I get flamed, so my suggestion is just search yourself, or stick with your old tape cameras!

I'm looking for a camcorder for Christmas and was considering the Sony SX30/31 but this looks good too? Might wait until the Christmas sales...:?

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im so glad someone posted this, as i was looking at this yesterday, yes it has low light issues butthis camera does NOT have the CMOS image processor that causes the low lght issue, this camera has a CCD processor (or is it DDC) anyway...

Regarding the SX30, im also looking at that, again low light issues but has the CCD processor. But at least the Sony has 60 x optical zoom and has a built in 4GB memory so you can start using right away. I know some people may say that its small memory, but i prefer the portability of it, and guess what the battery only lasts about 1/1/2 hours (although sx30 claims 2 hours 55 mins, which means you can transfer the data before using it again. Also John Lewis are selling the SX30 for £149 instore and with the £30 cashback at £120 its a good price given 2 yr warranty, i get 3 yr warranty as i add it to my barclays additions account. Anyway Were of to dineyland tomorrow and i need something small light and portable, the SX30 has mixed review but Im picking it up today. If anyone knows anything bad about the SX30 from actually owning one, then please warn me in advance. Thanks

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Play have put the Canon back upto £200

Roccostan;7231786

If anyone knows anything bad about the SX30 from actually owning one, … If anyone knows anything bad about the SX30 from actually owning one, then please warn me in advance. Thanks



YouTube is the first port of call, it has actual footage, but when I looked there wasn't a huge amount as there are with some cameras, and to be honest even the daylight stuff wasn't as good as I have seen with some cameras anyway :-(

Roccostan;7231786

butthis camera does NOT have the CMOS image processor that causes the low … butthis camera does NOT have the CMOS image processor that causes the low lght issue, this camera has a CCD processor (or is it DDC) anyway...



Their own brochure from the Canon website says it is CMOS!

Then again, in the same brochure it also say that CMOS is MORE sensitive in low light... however it doesn't say what it is comparing it to!
It makes me wonder why CMOS cameras suffer this problem if that is the case!

It does confirm to me what marketing is all about though... spouting crap ;-(

nihcaj;7219281

Low light poor.... as can seen seen in any Google search, just like every … Low light poor.... as can seen seen in any Google search, just like every other CMOS SD card camera, so ideal if your video is to be outdoors in good light, but Christmas in with the family is going to need lighting up like a Christmas tree :-(Loads of info out there on this cam and on he problem with CMOS cameras in low light, but everytime I post it, I get flamed, so my suggestion is just search yourself, or stick with your old tape cameras!



Low bitrate is probably the issue with this, nothing to do with sensor used.

And (again) CMOS isn't the issue these days, it's other factors, virtually all consumer HD cams (and DSLR) use CMOS, so please stop beating that drum...

nihcaj;7231999

YouTube is the first port of call, it has actual footage, but when I … YouTube is the first port of call, it has actual footage, but when I looked there wasn't a huge amount as there are with some cameras, and to be honest even the daylight stuff wasn't as good as I have seen with some cameras anyway :-(



Youtube has the original files as downloaded direct from the camera?
Or highly compressed versions, auto converted by their servers and designed for streaming over the internet at Youtube (non HD) standard?
Huge difference.

sburley;7232154

Low bitrate is probably the issue with this, nothing to do with sensor … Low bitrate is probably the issue with this, nothing to do with sensor used. And (again) CMOS isn't the issue these days, it's other factors, virtually all consumer HD cams (and DSLR) use CMOS, so please stop beating that drum...



Please show me the CMOS camera under 300 quid that doesn't have the problem, and I will.

sburley;7232379

Youtube has the original files as downloaded direct from the camera? Or … Youtube has the original files as downloaded direct from the camera? Or highly compressed versions, auto converted by their servers and designed for streaming over the internet at Youtube (non HD) standard? Huge difference.



I agree, but it is going to show basic vices like too dark or very grainy problems, and then link any other problems you see with written comments on reviews, and you can at least work on from that.
Not much good looking in detail at cameras that are going to be out of the running at the first hurdle, then trekking around to try and see them when you can exclude them straight away.

nihcaj;7233218

Please show me the CMOS camera under 300 quid that doesn't have the … Please show me the CMOS camera under 300 quid that doesn't have the problem, and I will.



No digital camera will be amazing in low light, probably you'll need to spend £700 or above and get something like Panasonics HDC-TM300 3MOS camera which displays some of the best low light performance. But I wouldn't dismiss any camcorder purely because its CMOS and/or under £300, they'll probably function more than well enough for most people, most of the time.
I have a Xacti HD1000 (available now for £250 new) and Canon HV20 (£300 off of Ebay direct from Canon) and the amount of use they've had recording family events, childrens show, performances and parties, not to mention Xmas mornings means they're worth there weight in gold and look great on my HD TV.
There are some poor cameras out there, but CMOS isn't the issue, your overly high standards are. In the meantime you just grow older.

Camcorder Info Review

The Canon FS200 is one of the most comfortable camcorder's we've worked … The Canon FS200 is one of the most comfortable camcorder's we've worked with, particularly in the standard definition market. It has a soft yet strong hand strap, a well-made navigation joystick, and good button design. The camcorder's menu system has a few quirks, but it is about as good as it gets for a cheap, standard definition camcorder. In our performance testing the Canon FS200 maintained decent numbers across the board, although it didn't do very well in our stabilization testing. We also weren't crazy about the video importation process necessary for getting video clips off of a memory card and onto a computer—but this is a process required with many camcorders.If you have some extra cash, and you like what the FS200 has to offer, you should check out the Canon FS21 and FS22. These two camcorders are higher-end SD models from Canon, and both have larger pixel counts than the FS200 as well as internal flash memory



Sounds like a perfectly decent camera for the money, especially one under £200. But as they say if you spend a bit more you could get a larger pixel count, which will help slightly in more trickier situations. It's all relative, but this being a 'Hot Deal' site, not a 'I want an amazing camera at a knock down price that simply doesn't exist' site, this is/was a good deal.

sburley;7233540

No digital camera will be amazing in low light, probably you'll need to … No digital camera will be amazing in low light, probably you'll need to spend £700 or above and get something like Panasonics HDC-TM300 3MOS camera which displays some of the best low light performance. But I wouldn't dismiss any camcorder purely because its CMOS and/or under £300, they'll probably function more than well enough for most people, most of the time. I have a Xacti HD1000 (available now for £250 new) and Canon HV20 (£300 off of Ebay direct from Canon) and the amount of use they've had recording family events, childrens show, performances and parties, not to mention Xmas mornings means they're worth there weight in gold and look great on my HD TV.There are some poor cameras out there, but CMOS isn't the issue, your overly high standards are. In the meantime you just grow older.



Like I say... show me one... and you show me one which has any number of reviews documenting the problem!
Xacti:
digideep.com/go/…03/
engadget.com/200…ed/
etc.... etc... ou don't need to look far for plenty of complaints of the same problems

Another, the
Canon... well, it undoubtedly has a much better record for low light performance.... then again it should have fore the price! You "moved the goalposts," and boy you moved them some distance! 500 quid is more the price we are talking about!
(So few places seem to have it, I am presuming it either isn't the newest of models, or is so new, it is not widely available!)

For a start, there are none at less than 300 quid on Ebay... not a one; and elsewhere, well let us leave it by saying your definition of 300 quid is a lot bigger than mine.

I would suggest it's not my standards that are too high,perhaps your standards are clearly a lot lower than mine.I seem to have the company of a lot of professional and amateur camera reviewers who also seem to point out the low light problems, otherwise I wouldn't be so able to point them out, or have anything to judge my own opinions.

The standard by which you judge money also seems a lot different - apart from 500 quid being the same as 300 quid to you; If I am spending money, it is precisely because as I grow older that I have a lot less of it, that is the problem!

I had thought you were trying to enter into a reasonable discussion on the pros and cons, of different cameras but now it is beginning to look like argument for argument's sake - I can quote an entire web-full of cameras that offer great specs, there are plenty out there, all at huge prices - so far not a single person has come up with anything that makes cheaper (say sub-300 quid) CMOS cameras look good in low light conditions - certainly nothing that makes me want to leave the house to go out and seek one out to look at :-(

I have an old JVC VHS-C camera here that I haven't used in so long I can't even remember the model number, it looks like if I want video footage, I will have to stick to that, as it wasn't too bad in low light, either that or just get by with the movie mode on my Fuji Bridge camera, and end up with poor results, but at least poor results that cost me nothing extra!

Far from put me off posting about CMOS cameras, you seem to have done a pretty good job at confirming everything I already knew, and a good illustration to point to in future threads.

nihcaj;7234180

Like I say... show me one... and you show me one which has any number of … Like I say... show me one... and you show me one which has any number of reviews documenting the problem!Xacti:http://www.digideep.com/go/forums/viewthread/7203/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/18/sanyos-xacti-vpc-hd1000-camcorder-gets-reviewed/etc.... etc... ou don't need to look far for plenty of complaints of the same problemsAnother, the Canon... well, it undoubtedly has a much better record for low light performance.... then again it should have fore the price! You "moved the goalposts," and boy you moved them some distance! 500 quid is more the price we are talking about!(So few places seem to have it, I am presuming it either isn't the newest of models, or is so new, it is not widely available!)For a start, there are none at less than 300 quid on Ebay... not a one; and elsewhere, well let us leave it by saying your definition of 300 quid is a lot bigger than mine. I would suggest it's not my standards that are too high,perhaps your standards are clearly a lot lower than mine.I seem to have the company of a lot of professional and amateur camera reviewers who also seem to point out the low light problems, otherwise I wouldn't be so able to point them out, or have anything to judge my own opinions.The standard by which you judge money also seems a lot different - apart from 500 quid being the same as 300 quid to you; If I am spending money, it is precisely because as I grow older that I have a lot less of it, that is the problem!I had thought you were trying to enter into a reasonable discussion on the pros and cons, of different cameras but now it is beginning to look like argument for argument's sake - I can quote an entire web-full of cameras that offer great specs, there are plenty out there, all at huge prices - so far not a single person has come up with anything that makes cheaper (say sub-300 quid) CMOS cameras look good in low light conditions - certainly nothing that makes me want to leave the house to go out and seek one out to look at :-(I have an old JVC VHS-C camera here that I haven't used in so long I can't even remember the model number, it looks like if I want video footage, I will have to stick to that, as it wasn't too bad in low light, either that or just get by with the movie mode on my Fuji Bridge camera, and end up with poor results, but at least poor results that cost me nothing extra!Far from put me off posting about CMOS cameras, you seem to have done a pretty good job at confirming everything I already knew, and a good illustration to point to in future threads.



Thing is I have 2 cameras (with CMOS) which I paid £300 or less for (the Canon was a deal from Canon direct, run out model, found through a deal site like this), which I'm perfectly happy with and have had loads of use from during the 2-3 years I've owned them - very, very important that.
Bit like millions of other people out there, knowing their small limitations, but very very happy with 95% of the footage I've produced.

You intend to stick to your VHS-C (out of spite?), which you admit you haven't actually used in ages. And tell everyone else not to buy a new digital camcorder unless it's professional spec and price.:w00t: What on earth are you doing here?

happy non filming.:thumbsup:

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the Sony HD cam is 70 Gb

this takes a 4Gb card

not hard to work out which is best

Peggy Bedford;7239045

the Sony HD cam is 70 Gb this takes a 4Gb card not hard to work out which … the Sony HD cam is 70 Gb this takes a 4Gb card not hard to work out which is best



Who mentioned Sony?

dont compare hard drive cameras to flash mem camera's.. utterly retarded. so many disadvantages of a hdd cam... constant noise in audio recorded, more wear and tear, moving parts etc, if the disc corrupts you lose everything, slower record/playback etc etc etc.

Peggy Bedford;7239045

the Sony HD cam is 70 Gb this takes a 4Gb card not hard to work out which … the Sony HD cam is 70 Gb this takes a 4Gb card not hard to work out which is best



are you a sony rep? you seem to wave the sony flag at every opportunity.

tightpants;7322261

are you a sony rep? you seem to wave the sony flag at every opportunity.



They are dozens on here who do that!
I used to think the same way until I learned better the expensive way and tried to get a just out of guarantee TV repaired! :-(
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