Carrera Hellcat mountain bike, women's (and men's in store) just £258 (down from £430, 40% off, save £172) at Halfords.
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Carrera Hellcat mountain bike, women's (and men's in store) just £258 (down from £430, 40% off, save £172) at Halfords.

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Found 13th FebEdited by:"Besford"
Update: Only 18" available in purple now for on line orders, both sizes in emerald. There may be additional stock in stores.

Having posted the Carrera Axle hybrid bike I was just looking around the Halfords and Cycle Republic sites and found this great deal with 40% off! It's about time a bike for the ladies was posted (though in reality this will suit men too - it's just that the men's colours are sold out).

Edit: just saw one of the 'men's' ones in store (silver and red; says out of stock on line). In store they're not even identified as men's or women's, just the different colours. I'm pretty sure they are identical otherwise.
Update: I just contacted Halfords. The men's and women's do differ slightly in geometry: eg on the 18" frame the women's top tube is 10mm shorter (so slightly more upright riding position); seat tubes are the same length though.

No mountain bike worth having is going to be as cheap as a similar hybrid as it will need decent suspension, bigger tyres and stronger components. This one also has disc brakes which are a real advantage in the mud. Suntour XCM 100mm travel forks are lower end stuff but they'll work - unlike the ones on supermarket bikes.

Further discounts may be available (eg 10% via British Cycling would make it £232.20).

I'm sceptical about Halfords RRP pricing and the shop itself has a mixed reputation (some good, some not so good), but if you're looking for a usable mountain bike for leisure riding which will tackle some more challenging terrain then this is an excellent buy at this price: probably the minimum you can pay for something which will actually work in the rough stuff. 5* user reviews. The Carrera brand is respected in the mid price market and at this price the bike represents very good value.

Halfords do regularly play with their pricing and I'd never buy there at RRP but I suspect this one may be on a genuine clearance as all the men's colours have already gone at this price (on line).

Available in 16" and 18" frame sizes so will suit 5'5" to 6'1" riders according to the Halfords size guide. Available in purple or emerald - here's the emerald one:
halfords.com/cyc…mes

Free delivery or assembled free for collection from store.
If you get it built from the store they'll do a free check after 6 weeks too.

If you don't plan on going beyond towpaths and the like I'd strongly suggest you save even more money and look at the Carrera Axle here for £180 (or less). Suspension forks really are an unnecessary added weight for most people's use.
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Pvfc123456789018 m ago

Cold,For the price I’d expect hydraulic brakes




And the prize for the most unrealistic expectation goes to ...
Edited by: "Andi.Keane" 13th Feb
Andi.Keane6 m ago

And the prize for the most unrealistic expectation goes to ...


You think?
So a bike originally for sale for £430 shouldn’t be expected to have decent brakes?
If the bikes original selling price was £258 and it was reduced then it would be a good deal,just because it’s £258 from £430 now doesn’t make it a good bike!!
It could help potential buyers if any cold voters would state their reasons.
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It could help potential buyers if any cold voters would state their reasons.
For this price it can't be cold forks are s#$t but for the money you can't complain.
Besford10 m ago

It could help potential buyers if any cold voters would state their …It could help potential buyers if any cold voters would state their reasons.


Not voted either way. But just beware the so called rrp is the usual halfords highly inflated price so it may not be that much of a price reduction as it seems.
Siddas7 m ago

Not voted either way. But just beware the so called rrp is the usual …Not voted either way. But just beware the so called rrp is the usual halfords highly inflated price so it may not be that much of a price reduction as it seems.


I know exactly what you mean: they play silly pricing games so you have to play them too, but this is 40% off so I think it represents good value now. If the bike suits then this is the time to bite!
Edited by: "Besford" 13th Feb
Cold,For the price I’d expect hydraulic brakes
Pvfc12345678904 m ago

Cold,For the price I’d expect hydraulic brakes


'Want', maybe, 'expect' likely to lead to diappointment! Can you post something meeting your expectations at this price level?
Edited by: "Besford" 13th Feb
Pvfc123456789018 m ago

Cold,For the price I’d expect hydraulic brakes




And the prize for the most unrealistic expectation goes to ...
Edited by: "Andi.Keane" 13th Feb
Andi.Keane6 m ago

And the prize for the most unrealistic expectation goes to ...


You think?
So a bike originally for sale for £430 shouldn’t be expected to have decent brakes?
If the bikes original selling price was £258 and it was reduced then it would be a good deal,just because it’s £258 from £430 now doesn’t make it a good bike!!
Pvfc123456789011 m ago

You think?So a bike originally for sale for £430 shouldn’t be expected to h …You think?So a bike originally for sale for £430 shouldn’t be expected to have decent brakes?If the bikes original selling price was £258 and it was reduced then it would be a good deal,just because it’s £258 from £430 now doesn’t make it a good bike!!


Forget the £430 - marketing hype and you'd be mad to buy it at that price! Is it good value for £258 (or £232.20 even)? I think the answer is 'yes' and we're still waiting for you to post something which shows this is incorrect. Do you accept the challenge or not?
Edited by: "Besford" 13th Feb
Besford1 h, 4 m ago

Forget the £430 - marketing hype and you'd be mad to buy it at that price! …Forget the £430 - marketing hype and you'd be mad to buy it at that price! Is it good value for £258 (or £232.20 even)? I think the answer is 'yes' and we're still waiting for you to post something which shows this is incorrect. Do you accept the challenge or not?


Apology accepted
The spec for the sale price is poor, IMO.

Even at the sale price, I would rather spend the extra on a £320 (before 10% BC discount) Voodoo Marasa halfords.com/cyc…mes


The Marasa is more than capable of mild off-road with room for at least 700x50mm tyres, it has a wider gear range and total, plus hydraulic brakes versus mechanical on the Carrera. Not to mention it's ~2Kg lighter with stock parts!
N0bodyOfTheGoat16 m ago

The spec for the sale price is poor, IMO. Even at the sale price, I would …The spec for the sale price is poor, IMO. Even at the sale price, I would rather spend the extra on a £320 (before 10% BC discount) Voodoo Marasa http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bikes/hybrid-bikes/voodoo-marasa-womens-hybrid-bike-16-18-framesThe Marasa is more than capable of mild off-road with room for at least 700x50mm tyres, it has a wider gear range and total, plus hydraulic brakes versus mechanical on the Carrera. Not to mention it's ~2Kg lighter with stock parts!


Yep, that looks good too! But it's £62 more and it's a hybrid, not a mountain bike. Apples and pears I think.

Why not post it (your first post!) and see what others think?
Edited by: "Besford" 13th Feb
Besford2 h, 24 m ago

'Want', maybe, 'expect' likely to lead to diappointment! Can you post …'Want', maybe, 'expect' likely to lead to diappointment! Can you post something meeting your expectations at this price level?


I find hydrolic breaks a pain in the arse and not much better than standard disc unless you pay a small fortune for them. This bike is cheap and cheap to maintain.
dannycouzens72 h, 36 m ago

I find hydrolic breaks a pain in the arse and not much better than …I find hydrolic breaks a pain in the arse and not much better than standard disc unless you pay a small fortune for them. This bike is cheap and cheap to maintain.


Brakes a pain in the arse I find they stop me as expected, but I use slx, xt (or hope which are a similar price to this bike
dannycouzens73 h, 55 m ago

I find hydrolic breaks a pain in the arse and not much better than …I find hydrolic breaks a pain in the arse and not much better than standard disc unless you pay a small fortune for them. This bike is cheap and cheap to maintain.


Mmm, once you're into dual piston territory so there's no adjustment needed *then* hydraulics make sense since they're the only tech that can offer that.
CampGareth4 h, 0 m ago

Mmm, once you're into dual piston territory so there's no adjustment …Mmm, once you're into dual piston territory so there's no adjustment needed *then* hydraulics make sense since they're the only tech that can offer that.


They still seize too often they still get affected by heat too often. Thing is the only motor a bike has is your legs if you had a 5litre v10 strapped to your bike I would agree.
They need maintenance to stop them seizing (one of the things a car MOT is meant to spot is imbalanced brakes due to seizing) and as for heat that argument really confuses me since again cars, lorries etc use them without issue despite going faster and being heavier. The main difference is they have bigger discs and calipers but so can you if you don't mind the weight.
dannycouzens753 m ago

They still seize too often they still get affected by heat too often. …They still seize too often they still get affected by heat too often. Thing is the only motor a bike has is your legs if you had a 5litre v10 strapped to your bike I would agree.

Pvfc123456789013th Feb

Cold,For the price I’d expect hydraulic brakes

Show us a £258 mountain bike with hydraulic brakes.
Muig197225 m ago

Show us a £258 mountain bike with hydraulic brakes.



gooutdoors.co.uk/cal…114 Any good? I wouldn't expect hydraulic brakes at this price by the way, but it can be done. I got an ex-demo (different model again) for just over £200.
Edited by: "olops" 16th Feb
One thing I don't get is why in 2018 are they selling women's and men's bikes?

Do women still go out wearing massive billowing skirts when blazing along on some dirt track that means they need a lowered top tube?

Are there any meaningful differences between the same model of bike for a man and a woman or is it just BS marketing? I'm in the market for a bike for the missus at the mo. Cheers.
Edited by: "Murtin" 16th Feb
olops50 m ago

http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/calibre-saw-mountain-bike-p414114 Any good? I …http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/calibre-saw-mountain-bike-p414114 Any good? I wouldn't expect hydraulic brakes at this price by the way, but it can be done. I got an ex-demo (different model again) for just over £200.


For £249 that looks excellent.
You should post that as a deal.

Good to see a choice of proper bikes for under £300 instead of the usual supermarket BSOs.
16 + 18" frames only so quite small. Hot though for those who suit the size..
I have a carerra subway 2 which has hydraulics I paid £240... Clarks hydraulics are not that expensive - but give you good stopping power. Bizarre that they didn't add them to this bike.
dannycouzens713th Feb

They still seize too often they still get affected by heat too often. …They still seize too often they still get affected by heat too often. Thing is the only motor a bike has is your legs if you had a 5litre v10 strapped to your bike I would agree.


Correctly set up hydraulic brakes do not seize and do not get affected by heat, it's not just their outright power either it's their consistency and minimal effort required which are their main advantages. Also 'your legs' are not the only component moving a bike, gravity moves the bike a heck of a lot faster and when bouncing down a fast technical trail, having powerful hydraulic brakes that can be controlled with just one or two fingers makes a huge difference over mechanical disc brakes.

All that aside, I'd say mechanic disc brakes are decent for this price level and since the bike has the disc mounts it's relatively easy to add hydraulic brakes later if required unlike a bike with v-brakes which likely won't have the required mounts. For the type of use the bike is likely to be used for, the mechanical discs will be fine.

John
olops1 h, 10 m ago

http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/calibre-saw-mountain-bike-p414114 Any good? I …http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/calibre-saw-mountain-bike-p414114 Any good? I wouldn't expect hydraulic brakes at this price by the way, but it can be done. I got an ex-demo (different model again) for just over £200.



I would defiantly go for the calibre for around this price range, i actually did have a calibre two two which was brilliant for the money - the only thing that let it down was the cheap gear cables got sticky, but quality aftermarket ones don’t cost much and the bike as a whole package was very cheap for the spec also very well reviews by all the experts. Shame some absolute pond fodder stole my bike from my garage
Murtin1 h, 19 m ago

One thing I don't get is why in 2018 are they selling women's and men's …One thing I don't get is why in 2018 are they selling women's and men's bikes?Do women still go out wearing massive billowing skirts when blazing along on some dirt track that means they need a lowered top tube?Are there any meaningful differences between the same model of bike for a man and a woman or is it just BS marketing? I'm in the market for a bike for the missus at the mo. Cheers.


Although for hybrids it's not unusual to see a dropped top tube for ladies bikes (recently I've seen a few men's hybrids with them as well now), on mountain and road bikes the female-specific bikes do use a different geometry which usually means a shorter top tube and a shorter stem which is meant to fit ladies better. There may be other component changes particularly with the saddles and crank arms that are intended to suit females better than a male specific bike.

The problem is the range for ladies specific bikes is usually much smaller than men, in some cases there is no ladies version at all and in others it may only be offered with an entry level spec. I'd recommend if possible letting your partner try out different bikes and see how they fit, it may be she finds a male specific model fits her better than a female specific bike as I've plenty female friends who ride non-female specific bikes.

Although I'm a guy, I prefer the fit of a ladies bike as I find the top tube on male bikes are too long so on the road bike I've had to reduce the stem even though my height is at the top end for the frame size and I usually go for a frame size smaller on the mountain bike which isn't ideal. In both cases there's not female specific versions of the bikes otherwise I would have considered them. I have seen arguments from others who find female specific geometries fit them better that the bikes should be sold as an alternate fit rather than just male/female.

John
Edited by: "Johnmcl7" 16th Feb
olops2 h, 33 m ago

http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/calibre-saw-mountain-bike-p414114 Any good? I …http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/calibre-saw-mountain-bike-p414114 Any good? I wouldn't expect hydraulic brakes at this price by the way, but it can be done. I got an ex-demo (different model again) for just over £200.


Also with arthur dent and biker Danny - that calibre looks a really good deal that you should post - not that Besfords deal is bad
Edited by: "Bertz99" 16th Feb
Bikerdanny1 h, 24 m ago

I would defiantly go for the calibre for around this price range, i …I would defiantly go for the calibre for around this price range, i actually did have a calibre two two which was brilliant for the money - the only thing that let it down was the cheap gear cables got sticky, but quality aftermarket ones don’t cost much and the bike as a whole package was very cheap for the spec also very well reviews by all the experts. Shame some absolute pond fodder stole my bike from my garage


The Calibre isn't actually a full blown mountain bike the drivetrain is a basic freewheel same as sub £100 BSO's that will never withstand proper off-road use unless the rider is very light. It does appear to have hydraulic disc brakes though. A strange component choice. Surely the Hellcat is far better with a freehub based drivetrain and mechanical disc brakes. Cheap mechanical disc brakes are often better than cheap hydraulic disc brakes too. Maybe that is changing but it certainly was true not long ago. Check out the reviews to whatever disc brakes are fitted anyway. A very well reviewed mechanical disc brake is surely better than a hydraulic braking system with known issues and vice versa.

Also as a heavier rider I can't help but point out that of the 3 great value bike retailers, Halfords, Go Outdoors and Decathlon, Halfords have the highest weight limit at 120kg, Go Outdoors are at 100kg and Decathlon/Btwin are normally at about 80-85kg. It's not hard to see only the Carrera has strengthening added to the frame. I guess my point is you are getting a stronger better frame for your money. Halfords allow 120kg for the rider, 20kg for additional luggage and accessories (not on the seat post) and a total weight including the bike itself of 160kg. One of their manuals just claims 160kg without mentioning the bike weight and another does mention the bike weight so for safety sake I would include the bike weight in any calculations.

Lets not forget though that a mountain bike is significantly stronger. If you exceed 120kg but are using a mountain bike just on the road without taking the impacts off road you can probably safely allow a small amount above. Depending on bike components and frame I would say 150-160kg is possible.

As I'm sure has already been pointed out don't buy a bike with suspension unless you really need it. It can have a limited working life before requiring maintenance. A Carrera Subway would suit more people especially occasional cyclists who just want a solid reliable bike.
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People give halfords a bad rap but I have two Carrera's that I got on the cycle to work scheme (a vengence-e and a vulcan) and I love both of them. ok i'm not cycle mad spandex wearer but I do cycle to the station to go to work and I really enjoy riding them.
dannycouzens713th Feb

For this price it can't be cold forks are s#$t but for the money you can't …For this price it can't be cold forks are s#$t but for the money you can't complain.


I can't see anything worth it here, I sold my 6 months old Trek Marlin 7 2017 for the same price.
mirko7750 m ago

I can't see anything worth it here, I sold my 6 months old Trek Marlin 7 …I can't see anything worth it here, I sold my 6 months old Trek Marlin 7 2017 for the same price.


Trying to figure out what point you're trying to make. You sold a £550 bike for £258 when it was 6 months old; so you lost a lot of money. What's the relevance? . What was wrong with it? Have you got any more to sell?

For what it's worth, I've had several used Trek bikes and they've all had bearing problems. Not impressed. If I was spending over £500 on a bike I'd go for a Specialized over a Trek any day based on this experience. Still irrelevant to this thread though. Post a better bike for this money new, or this bike for less money new, and I'll gladly eat my words .
Edited by: "Besford" 17th Feb
Murtin16th Feb

One thing I don't get is why in 2018 are they selling women's and men's …One thing I don't get is why in 2018 are they selling women's and men's bikes?Do women still go out wearing massive billowing skirts when blazing along on some dirt track that means they need a lowered top tube?Are there any meaningful differences between the same model of bike for a man and a woman or is it just BS marketing? I'm in the market for a bike for the missus at the mo. Cheers.


I don't think it's a sexist thing: it's about male/female body proportions which really haven't changed! Where the bikes differ the ladies' version is often shorter on the top tube, but were talking 'typical' bodies here so some women will find men's bikes suit them better and vice versa. Probably less important on a mountain bike than a road bike anyway?

However, I strongly suspect on this bike they really only differ in colour? Anyone know for sure?

Update: I just contacted Halfords. The men's and women's do differ slightly in geometry: eg on the 18" frame the women's top tube is 10mm shorter (slightly more upright position); seat tubes are the same length though. I suspect the 'women's' frame would suit many men perfectly well but there isn't a 20" frame in the women's. 18" frame is quoted as suitable for riders up to 6'1" though.
Edited by: "Besford" 18th Feb
It won't be in stock.
abomb196944 m ago

It won't be in stock.

Well, I just looked over a couple of them built up in my local store yesterday and the link says you can order either size on line. Where do people come up with this stuff?

One deal posted in 13 years as a member and it hit 3 degrees! I think we'll take our guidance somewhere else or would you care to explain your remark?
Edited by: "Besford" 17th Feb
mirko774 h, 43 m ago

I can't see anything worth it here, I sold my 6 months old Trek Marlin 7 …I can't see anything worth it here, I sold my 6 months old Trek Marlin 7 2017 for the same price.


Trek's entry level bike is £370 and way inferior to the Hellcat with BSO freewheel and nastier forks. I'm sure you aren't suggesting people spend £110 more to end up with such a junk bike. Frame looks worse too. The Hellcat is fit for purpose as an entry level mountain bike but the Trek Marlin 4 certainly isn't. I guess the Marlin 5 would be about the same overall. Someways the Hellcat is better and someways the Trek Marlin 5 is better but its £415 which is a huge difference in price and front shocks and drivetrain is better on the Carrera with only hydraulic brakes the noticeable upgrade on Marlin 5. I still much prefer the Carrera frame. You pay a lot to get the right badge on a bike and yet they could well be coming out of the same factory for the frame at least. If you are buying a Chinese bike anyway why not just save yourself a lot of money plus buy it from a UK importer rather than a US brand and importer.

trekbikes.com/gb/…een
jonrobby2 h, 53 m ago

http://m.gooutdoors.co.uk/calibre-saw-mountain-bike-p414114This or the …http://m.gooutdoors.co.uk/calibre-saw-mountain-bike-p414114This or the carrera?



bonzobanana has given a view earlier in the thread: inevitably pros and cons to each. I can't help thinking that if you have a real problem it's likely to be more convenient to take it back to Halfords (more branches) and there's probably more stock around. The Calibre does look good though.
Edited by: "Besford" 17th Feb
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