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Carrera Intercity lightweight (12kg) folding bike now £280 (was £350) at Halfords.
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Carrera Intercity lightweight (12kg) folding bike now £280 (was £350) at Halfords.

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Posted 30th May 2018
There are many different reasons for choosing a folding bike (storage, transport, security, size flexibility....) but if you are looking to commute regularly on one and that includes a significant amount of carrying then weight is especially important.

I've just been browsing folders and noticed that this carrera model is lighter than the average at 12kg (fully equipped with mudguards and rack - which could be removed if not required). Carrera bikes are well regarded at their price point (mid market) and this one seems well specified with those accessories and an eight speed Shimano Altus drivetrain.

Yes, you could save another kg or so with a Brompton - but it would cost more than three times as much!

It's easy to be cynical about Halford's pricing strategy (everything seems to take its turn to be 'reduced'), but if you are interested then you'll want it with £70 off rather than the regular 'RRP'.
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Also the Carrera Transit is reduced and slightly cheaper.

halfords.com/cyc…ike

Doesn't have the gear range of the Intercity but benefits from 3 speed hub gears which tend to work better for folding bikes as the small wheels mean derailleurs often get caked in mud etc and are more likely to get damaged due to folding and transporting.

The Intercity is an excellent bike with a freehub based drivetrain so definitely a much better option than many similar or even more expensive freewheel based folding bikes. I believe the Carrera folding bikes are not included in the general 120kg weight limit for Carrera bikes and may be lower at something like 85kg but you would have to check with Halfords before buying if over that weight for safety.
bonzobanana30/05/2018 12:42

Also the Carrera Transit is reduced and slightly …Also the Carrera Transit is reduced and slightly cheaper.http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bikes/folding-bikes/carrera-transit-folding-bikeDoesn't have the gear range of the Intercity but benefits from 3 speed hub gears which tend to work better for folding bikes as the small wheels mean derailleurs often get caked in mud etc and are more likely to get damaged due to folding and transporting. The Intercity is an excellent bike with a freehub based drivetrain so definitely a much better option than many similar or even more expensive freewheel based folding bikes. I believe the Carrera folding bikes are not included in the general 120kg weight limit for Carrera bikes and may be lower at something like 85kg but you would have to check with Halfords before buying if over that weight for safety.


Correct but my posting was in response to someone who thought a cheap folder I posted at 16kg was too heavy - hence my focus on weight here (12kg vs 14kg for the Transit).
Besford52 m ago

Correct but my posting was in response to someone who thought a cheap …Correct but my posting was in response to someone who thought a cheap folder I posted at 16kg was too heavy - hence my focus on weight here (12kg vs 14kg for the Transit).


That's interesting I hadn't noticed the weight difference. On face value you would only expect about half a kilo difference at most. I have a Muddyfox Evolve 200 which is the same as the Transit but with a heavier Nexus 7 hub and I think it was weighed at 12.4kg by someone else. I wonder what makes the Transit so heavy if it is, thick steel seatpost? Halfords are notorious for giving completely wrong weight information for many of their bikes mostly heavier than stated. I don't think they cheat like other companies and remove the pedals and give the weight for the smallest frame. They are a bit naive when it comes to realising how bike weight obsessed many cyclists are. They seem to average up sometimes or even use box weights on occasion. Same as sports direct who had their carbon frame racing bike at 12kg but online someone stated weighed at 9.2kg.

Interestingly the Raleigh Evo is on Halfords site at 16kg despite having a lighter duty and lighter weight freewheel and plastic tourney derailleur. Maybe combining the seatstays and chainstays together really does have a weight saving on the frame.
winchman30/05/2018 15:13

https://www.gumtree.com/p/bicycles/folding-bike/1300528750Bargain, 'only' …https://www.gumtree.com/p/bicycles/folding-bike/1300528750Bargain, 'only' £150..


Trying too hard to sell it.
Batmobile5431 h, 5 m ago

Trying too hard to sell it.


Not mine!! Be embarrassed to expect £150 for that...
Intercity life... Intercity (tyre) pressure
Murgatr0yd31st May 2018

Intercity life... Intercity (tyre) pressure


A Goldie and a oldie,
How are those bikes compared to Brompton?
- less practical?
- heavier?
- less robust?
Just to understand why Brompton are so expensive
Lister9231/05/2018 07:42

How are those bikes compared to Brompton?- less practical?- heavier?- less …How are those bikes compared to Brompton?- less practical?- heavier?- less robust?Just to understand why Brompton are so expensive


A brompton's main advantages over this as far as I can tell are hub gears and folding to a smaller size. Brompton frames are made in the UK which isn't actually a benefit but goes to explain the cost difference.

Practicality slightly better, robustness slightly better due only to the hub gears, weight roughly the same.
Edited by: "CampGareth" 31st May 2018
Thank you for your comment. I saw also Halfords is selling a Bickerton at 729£!!!! Looks like a competitor to Brompton in term of folding size.
CampGareth31/05/2018 08:00

A brompton's main advantages over this as far as I can tell are hub gears …A brompton's main advantages over this as far as I can tell are hub gears and folding to a smaller size. Brompton frames are made in the UK which isn't actually a benefit but goes to explain the cost difference.Practicality slightly better, robustness slightly better due only to the hub gears, weight roughly the same.


Only some (even more expensive) Bromptons have hub gears. Hub gears are heavier.
Edited by: "Besford" 31st May 2018
Lister9231/05/2018 07:42

How are those bikes compared to Brompton?- less practical?- heavier?- less …How are those bikes compared to Brompton?- less practical?- heavier?- less robust?Just to understand why Brompton are so expensive


Bromptons are probably better if they have to be folded and carried regularly (eg on a train commute) as they fold smaller and more easily. The trade off is that the small wheels are less good when you're riding (especially on potholed roads!); 20" wheels like this one feel more stable when riding. Bromptons range from 10kg-12kg; this is 12kg. Bromptons cost around 3 to 4 times as much. Carrera is a good brand and you can expect this one to be similarly robust to a Brompton (all bikes need regular maintenance and occasional repair).

Personally I'd choose this over a Brompton unless I took it on trains every working day or had a role in W1A!
Edited by: "Besford" 31st May 2018
This one from Go Outdoors claims to be a little lighter at 11.8kg - but lacks mudguards and rack so the Carrera could be lighter still if those items are removed:
hotukdeals.com/dea…591
Besford31/05/2018 08:52

Only some (even more expensive) Bromptons have hub gears. Hub gears are …Only some (even more expensive) Bromptons have hub gears. Hub gears are heavier.


Most Brompton's sold have hub gears, the 6 speed model is the most popular, 3 speed hub plus mini derailleur to take it to 6 speed. In this instance I'm not sure the hub is heavier, Brompton use a lightish 3 speed hub and you have to factor in the weight of the entry level freehub hub, cassette, derailleur and longer chain of the Intercity. I'm pretty sure the 3 speed Brompton drivetrain will be lighter and even possibly the 6 speed version. The HG200 cassette is half a kilo on its own. There are non hub geared Bromptons, single speed and the 2 speed (just the mini derailleur) but those models are far less common.

That weight difference between the Carrera Intercity vs Transit of 2kg gives the impression the Transit hub is very heavy but it shouldn't be as a 3 speed hub. Saying that the Intercity is stated as 12.7kg on the Cycle Republic site and the Transit weight is probably rounded up so there may only be about a 1kg between them.
Besford4 h, 1 m ago

This one from Go Outdoors claims to be a little lighter at 11.8kg - but …This one from Go Outdoors claims to be a little lighter at 11.8kg - but lacks mudguards and rack so the Carrera could be lighter still if those items are removed:https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/compass-high-spec-alloy-folding-bike-just-299-at-go-outdoors-rrp-400-uk-designed-and-light-weight-2926591


Probably the slightly more expensive compass will still be lighter as it has better wheels with quick release skewers,trigger shift,
higher spec rear mech and sports saddle.
For me the compass is the better bike with the improved gear shifting and easier maintenance,Carrera's still a good deal with the included rack and mudguards.
I'd disagree about the rear mech. The Intercity has a Altus derailleur from the mountain bike range. Small folding bike wheels get more caked in water and mud especially the derailleur and I think that's why some folding bikes come equipped with derailleurs from the mountain bike range rather than road bike. The Claris might have quicker crisper shifting when clean but I suspect the Altus would be better for all weather cyclists. Much prefer trigger shifting over rotary shifting so certainly agree with you on that point.
Besford4 h, 50 m ago

Bromptons are probably better if they have to be folded and carried …Bromptons are probably better if they have to be folded and carried regularly (eg on a train commute) as they fold smaller and more easily. The trade off is that the small wheels are less good when you're riding (especially on potholed roads!); 20" wheels like this one feel more stable when riding. Bromptons range from 10kg-12kg; this is 12kg. Bromptons cost around 3 to 4 times as much. Carrera is a good brand and you can expect this one to be similarly robust to a Brompton (all bikes need regular maintenance and ocassional repair).Personally I'd choose this over a Brompton unless I took it on trains every working day or had a role in W1A!


Thank you for reply.
I will soon take Eurostar every weekend and the location for the homes will be 30 minutes from train by foot / 10 minutes by bicycle on each side (Uk side and French side). So I definitely consider looking at a folding bike possibility when it will be coming.
bonzobanana31/05/2018 11:06

Most Brompton's sold have hub gears...


That's not my observation. Do you have stats to support that?
Besford14 m ago

That's not my observation. Do you have stats to support that?


Just look on ebay to see which bromptons are being sold. The vast majority are 6 speed or 3 speed models with single speed and 2 speed models quite low numbers. This must surely represent the ratio pretty much sold at retail.
Went to halfords to try the bike as I've been thinking of it, was told they don't let customers try the bike before buying them? I'm sure on the website I read a 30 minute trial is allowed?

Last time I bought a bike without trying it I hated it and sold it a few weeks later and lost a few £100, reluctant to do it again
SteadVex31/05/2018 14:58

Went to halfords to try the bike as I've been thinking of it, was told …Went to halfords to try the bike as I've been thinking of it, was told they don't let customers try the bike before buying them? I'm sure on the website I read a 30 minute trial is allowed?Last time I bought a bike without trying it I hated it and sold it a few weeks later and lost a few £100, reluctant to do it again


Well you should be able to sit on it in-store and do a few tests even if they won't allow you to take it for a ride outside. Do normal bike stores allow you to take bikes for test rides? I know Brompton retailers often provide a Brompton loan bike to test ride which you book I think but generally I'm not sure they want their immaculate showroom model to get tarnished.
SteadVex1 h, 39 m ago

Went to halfords to try the bike as I've been thinking of it, was told …Went to halfords to try the bike as I've been thinking of it, was told they don't let customers try the bike before buying them? I'm sure on the website I read a 30 minute trial is allowed?Last time I bought a bike without trying it I hated it and sold it a few weeks later and lost a few £100, reluctant to do it again


As far as I know, Halfords don't let you take a bike for a test ride. Perhaps it's at the discretion of the manager.

Good local bike shops definitely allow test rides. In the past I've been able to try out several different sizes and models before buying - it works in the shop's favour as it usually means they get a purchase from me.
SteadVex6 h, 21 m ago

Went to halfords to try the bike as I've been thinking of it, was told …Went to halfords to try the bike as I've been thinking of it, was told they don't let customers try the bike before buying them? I'm sure on the website I read a 30 minute trial is allowed?Last time I bought a bike without trying it I hated it and sold it a few weeks later and lost a few £100, reluctant to do it again


I think if you order online to collect in store they let you try it and you can return if you don’t like it.. a halfords guy told that to me few weeks ago.. can’t remember clearly but would be worth checking with their customer service
I have one of these. I am 100kg. I have done 1000 miles in the past year and had no problems except be aware they are not quick release wheels so either upgrade or get puncture proof/self healing tyres else it can be a pain to sort at the roadside.
Edited by: "forsh07" 1st Jun 2018
How long does it take to fold/unfold
bonzobanana31st May

Well you should be able to sit on it in-store and do a few tests even if …Well you should be able to sit on it in-store and do a few tests even if they won't allow you to take it for a ride outside. Do normal bike stores allow you to take bikes for test rides? I know Brompton retailers often provide a Brompton loan bike to test ride which you book I think but generally I'm not sure they want their immaculate showroom model to get tarnished.



I've had bikes over the weekend to try before buying, didn't expect that but I thought i'd be allowed a go in the car park!
Back to £350 now so I've expired the deal.
bonzobanana30/05/2018 12:42

Also the Carrera Transit is reduced and slightly …Also the Carrera Transit is reduced and slightly cheaper.http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bikes/folding-bikes/carrera-transit-folding-bikeDoesn't have the gear range of the Intercity but benefits from 3 speed hub gears which tend to work better for folding bikes as the small wheels mean derailleurs often get caked in mud etc and are more likely to get damaged due to folding and transporting. The Intercity is an excellent bike with a freehub based drivetrain so definitely a much better option than many similar or even more expensive freewheel based folding bikes. I believe the Carrera folding bikes are not included in the general 120kg weight limit for Carrera bikes and may be lower at something like 85kg but you would have to check with Halfords before buying if over that weight for safety.


Hi mate would you recommend the transit as a first bike for commuter journeys (only 3 mile round trip)
trojanh28/07/2019 11:40

Hi mate would you recommend the transit as a first bike for commuter …Hi mate would you recommend the transit as a first bike for commuter journeys (only 3 mile round trip)


Hi. Bonzobanana suggested it though that was a while ago. Looking a the spec I see it has a three speed hub gear: great for reliability and lack of maintenance but possibly not so good it your commute has steep hills. Do you really need a folder? They are a compromise so if not you'd probably be better with a road-orientated hybrid of some kind.

The best deals are usually in the Autumn when new model year bikes are about to appear.
Besford28/07/2019 11:56

Hi. Bonzobanana suggested it though that was a while ago. Looking a the …Hi. Bonzobanana suggested it though that was a while ago. Looking a the spec I see it has a three speed hub gear: great for reliability and lack of maintenance but possibly not so good it your commute has steep hills. Do you really need a folder? They are a compromise so if not you'd probably be better with a road-orientated hybrid of some kind.The best deals are usually in the Autumn when new model year bikes are about to appear.


I can wait until autumn - around August September time right?

I don’t really need a folder, just figured would be practical. What kind of full size bikes would you recommend then? Just want something that will last
trojanh28/07/2019 11:57

I can wait until autumn - around August September time right?I don’t r …I can wait until autumn - around August September time right?I don’t really need a folder, just figured would be practical. What kind of full size bikes would you recommend then? Just want something that will last


A road-orientated hybrid with no suspension and larger diameter, narrower wheels from a repected make. Carrera from Halfords or other makes such as Giant, Specialized, etc. or a Decathlon 'own brand' could do it. If you're budgeting around the £250 mark you should be able to get something worthwhile.

Something like this from Halfords would be OK though you'd really want to put narrower road tyres on it:
halfords.com/cyc…mes

Or maybe this from Evans, though again it's a bit of a compromise in the tyre dept:
evanscycles.com/pin…936

Or these from Rutland:
rutlandcycling.com/bik….ds

rutlandcycling.com/bik….ds

Decathlon link:
decathlon.co.uk/C-3…kes

Of those I think I'd probably look at the Giant first as they tend to offer good value but I'm sure there are plenty more out there and great deals will come along from time to time.

Budget around £30 for mudguards if you want them too.
Besford28/07/2019 16:05

A road-orientated hybrid with no suspension and larger diameter, narrower …A road-orientated hybrid with no suspension and larger diameter, narrower wheels from a repected make. Carrera from Halfords or other makes such as Giant, Specialized, etc. or a Decathlon 'own brand' could do it. If you're budgeting around the £250 mark you should be able to get something worthwhile.Something like this from Halfords would be OK though you'd really want to put narrower road tyres on it:https://www.halfords.com/cycling/bikes/hybrid-bikes/carrera-subway-1-mens-hybrid-bike-s-m-l-framesOr maybe this from Evans, though again it's a bit of a compromise in the tyre dept:https://www.evanscycles.com/pinnacle-lithium-1-2020-hybrid-bike-EV339936Or these from Rutland:https://www.rutlandcycling.com/bikes/hybrid-bikes/marin-larkspur-cs3-2018-hybrid-bike-red_454638?currency=GBP&gclid=Cj0KCQjwj_XpBRCCARIsAItJiuTLUmSxl48ZsMWCEg9l6Dw6yHqpJxLnzoHm68oosYl8WGD1UtCCqxcaAo2sEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.dshttps://www.rutlandcycling.com/bikes/hybrid-bikes/giant-escape-3-2019-aluminium-hybrid-bike-charcoal_462023?currency=GBP&gclid=Cj0KCQjwj_XpBRCCARIsAItJiuQt0YL6UEY4aDbMAbPF5MVPxX2S6jEJThnjA3zkGfRkveRQ0YM7UisaAsKZEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.dsDecathlon link:https://www.decathlon.co.uk/C-376962-hybrid-and-touring-bikesOf those I think I'd probably look at the Giant first as they tend to offer good value but I'm sure there are plenty more out there and great deals will come along from time to time.Budget around £30 for mudguards if you want them too.


Will mudguards actually work though?
Those giants look really good. A local shop sells them for £360 (vs £300 online). Is it common to get price matching?

What would paying for more get me? £250 is the sweet spot for me, but how would a ride on these compare to a Brompton, especially as its my first bike, I feel like the folder might be easier to get used to?
trojanh28/07/2019 19:01

Will mudguards actually work though? Those giants look really good. A …Will mudguards actually work though? Those giants look really good. A local shop sells them for £360 (vs £300 online). Is it common to get price matching? What would paying for more get me? £250 is the sweet spot for me, but how would a ride on these compare to a Brompton, especially as its my first bike, I feel like the folder might be easier to get used to?


Only buy a folder, if you specifically need a bike to fold.
If you dont really need the fold, a hybrid will be better in every way.... and will be more suited to a variety of different surfaces.
Biker.Jeff28/07/2019 19:17

Only buy a folder, if you specifically need a bike to fold.If you dont …Only buy a folder, if you specifically need a bike to fold.If you dont really need the fold, a hybrid will be better in every way.... and will be more suited to a variety of different surfaces.


He's right!
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