Casio Celviano AP-245 Digital piano (various online and other stores)
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Casio Celviano AP-245 Digital piano (various online and other stores)

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Found 7th Jan 2014
The AP-245 is a special offer for Christmas 2013. A first at the price, the AP-245 features Casios impressive AiR sound engine and new Tri-Sensor keyboard in an attractive cabinet for under 500 pounds! Whether in a school, home or internship this digital piano Will give you a digital piano sound with a professional feel. There are a total of 18 high quality sounds That can be mixed together to create single combinations or split to give one sound for the left hand and a different sound in the right hand. A USB Connection Allows external connection for recording or sampling, and the headphone socket make this digital piano great for silent practice. On top of this you can record yourself with the on-board recorder, use the on-board metronome for timing and access an array of digital effects too! All in all, this is a great opportunity to get a very functional cabinet digital piano That plays well outside the price bracket it sits in. Thoroughly recommended, but be quick once Christmas is over, so are they!

Spec:-

CASIO AP245

-88 Note Tri Sensor Scaled Hammer Action Keyboard II

-’AiR’ Sound Source - Multi-dimensional Morphing AiR Sound

-Touch Response (3 Sensitivity levels, Off)

-Simulated Ebony & Ivory Textured Keys

-128-Note Polyphony, Damper Resonance

-18 Tones

-Digital Effects, Layer/Split & Duet Function

-Lesson Function

-Recorder (2 Track, 1 Song), Song Expansion - 1 song

-60 Songbank Tunes, Key Transpose, Tuning Control

-2 Grand Piano buttons & 1 Electric Piano button for instant access

-Metronome, 3 Pedals - Damper, Soft, Sostenuto

-USB Port (Type B) Requires USB Cable (A-B Type)

-2 x Headphone sockets (Stereo standard jack)

-Auto Power Off

-Size (WxDxH) 1,377 x 432 x 840mm, Weight 39.5kg

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My comments, now: this is a very decent digital piano, it's exactly the same as the Casio AP-250, 'cept given a different model number and sold as a limited special offer.

Sound quality and keyboard action are all punching well above it's price bracket - the AP-250 normally sells at at least the £700 mark. The same keyboard action is on all the Celviano range - and easily competes with the other digital piano encumbents. And the sound has improved from previous generations.

If you're looking for a digital piano, and on a budget, I'd grab one of these whilst they're still around at this price, because there's less and less avaiable.

I've linked to Amazon selling it, but plenty of other online and bricks and mortar musical instructment shops sell them - pretty much all at an identical price. I got mine a week or two back, but the retailer I bought from no longer has any stock.

I have a real piano, as well as this digital one, and I have to say, I've spent quite a bit of time on it - I was really only after a budget digital piano to use with headphones for practice, it was more about the keyboard action being faithful for me, but at this price they truly are a bargain.

128 note polyphony, true scaled hammer action, tri-sensor keyboard, and two headphone sockets (good for teaching / lessons), and the keyboard can be (logically) split into two, good for duets and teaching or lessons.

I've been hugely impressed with it, especially for the price.

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Original Poster

Casio's product pages here and here.

Official youtube video.

Edit: just to say, it looks like a promotional code gets auto added to this deal by merit of Amazon and the category - I have no idea whether that will work, as I don't think they're sold directly from Amazon - I didn't buy mine from Amazon.

Heat. Really good 88 key instrument.

Hi im looking for a digi piano for my daughter and like the sound of this one.
But i was looking at another piano before i saw this one, and it looks similar im not sure if its the same one.
counterpointdirect.co.uk/Cas…htm
is it the same piano

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greatsage888

Hi im looking for a digi piano for my daughter and like the sound of this … Hi im looking for a digi piano for my daughter and like the sound of this one.But i was looking at another piano before i saw this one, and it looks similar im not sure if its the same one.http://www.counterpointdirect.co.uk/Casio-AP-245-p/w-epb003v.htmis it the same piano



Yes.

And a bargain at that price / price-point.

edit: just to say - and something I've experienced myself - there are limited numbers, they won't be available much longer, so if you want that one, I wouldn't delay - once the AP-245s sell out, you'll probably have to spend another £200 or so from whichever make, to get something of equivalent spec and quality.

Thanks for the info sir.
Just ordered one,my daughter is jumping with joy right now.

This is RRP, buy it from your local music shop and support local business.

I bought this exact piano with an adjustable stool and headphones from a local music shop for £529

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paulj48

This is RRP, buy it from your local music shop and support local … This is RRP, buy it from your local music shop and support local business.I bought this exact piano with an adjustable stool and headphones from a local music shop for £529



It is the RRP, that's true - but it's an absolute bargain for that price.

I also bought from a music shop - well the online front for a chain of musical shops, too, and got a Stagg adjustable piano stool with it for £519 - so there are some bundles and good offers, there - the shop / chain I bought from sells the stool I bought with it, seperately for £89 (although if you shop around you can probably get it around the £70 mark), so getting that bundled in for only £20 extra is definitely worth it.

I only linked the Amazon one (although it's showing the true seller, chasedirect, now) as it was the most expedient - I did say in the subject it's available in various online and other stores.

Original Poster

greatsage888

Thanks for the info sir.Just ordered one,my daughter is jumping with joy … Thanks for the info sir.Just ordered one,my daughter is jumping with joy right now.



I hope you'll be happy with it - I'm happy with mine.

Assembly instructions aren't separate they're to the back of the english section in the manual - I got half way through, before realising they were included in that, rather than seperately.

What I did was put the keyboard bit vertical with the back of it on the floor, assemble the base / stand, then lie it down, offer it up to the bottom of the keyboard section, screw it onto the stand, then upright it as one unit.

You may know this already, but headphone sockets are the larger 6.35mm sockets, so if you're using headphones, and only have the standard 3.5mm jacks, then you'll need an adaptor - Maplin sell them for a reasonable price, or if you've got a bit of lead time, they're probably cheaper on Amazon or ebay.

edit: BTW - love the avatar - I was a big fan in my youth. Always a bit confused about Tripitaka, as I'd read the book, and knew it was meant to be a boy, but found myself strangely attracted - all made sense, when I discovered it was really an ex Japanese model, who'd shaved her head!


Same thing happened to me as well although i did not know she was ment to be a bay until much later:D

BTW - love the avatar - I was a big fan in my youth. Always a bit … BTW - love the avatar - I was a big fan in my youth. Always a bit confused about Tripitaka, as I'd read the book, and knew it was meant to be a boy, but found myself strangely attracted - all made sense, when I discovered it was really an ex Japanese model, who'd shaved her head!

thanks for flagging this deal

just looked this up and gets some negative reviews - going for this instead yamaha 142

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sunnyhot

just looked this up and gets some negative reviews - going for this … just looked this up and gets some negative reviews - going for this instead yamaha 142



Yamaha always seem very solid choices.

As to reviews, well there's hardly anything I look at that hasn't got the odd negative review. The 142 is at a higher price point, really, though - although the AP-250 (which is what the AP-245 is, really) competes at that price point.

One thing I would say, having done a fair bit of research - I believe the 142 has the GHS (Graded Hammer Standard) keyboard action, rather than the GH (Graded Hammer) action of their better digital pianos. The keyboard action on the current Casio Celviano range is common across them all, and from what I've read (commercial and user reviews) is meant to be superior to Yamaha's GHS action, and on par with their GH action. I have to say - and I have a real piano, too - I'm suprised at how good and natural the keyboard action on the AP-245 feels - I didn't try before I bought, I hadn't got chance to find one in stock in local shops, so I've been really very happy with it since getting it, it just feels very natural and real out of the box.

In all other respects, the 142 looks to be very equal on spec compared with the AP-245 / AP-250.

I'm seeing less and less of the AP-245s, though - supply seems to be drying up on ebay and the normal musical instrument etailers, so there may not be much choice in the matter anyways.

Lester Burnham

Yamaha always seem very solid choices.As to reviews, well there's hardly … Yamaha always seem very solid choices.As to reviews, well there's hardly anything I look at that hasn't got the odd negative review. The 142 is at a higher price point, really, though - although the AP-250 (which is what the AP-245 is, really) competes at that price point.One thing I would say, having done a fair bit of research - I believe the 142 has the GHS (Graded Hammer Standard) keyboard action, rather than the GH (Graded Hammer) action of their better digital pianos. The keyboard action on the current Casio Celviano range is common across them all, and from what I've read (commercial and user reviews) is meant to be superior to Yamaha's GHS action, and on par with their GH action. I have to say - and I have a real piano, too - I'm suprised at how good and natural the keyboard action on the AP-245 feels - I didn't try before I bought, I hadn't got chance to find one in stock in local shops, so I've been really very happy with it since getting it, it just feels very natural and real out of the box.In all other respects, the 142 looks to be very equal on spec compared with the AP-245 / AP-250.I'm seeing less and less of the AP-245s, though - supply seems to be drying up on ebay and the normal musical instrument etailers, so there may not be much choice in the matter anyways.



I bought a AP-245 last October for this price. I also compared the Yamaha but it was £200 more for very similar spec.

My decision was made purely on cost so I choose the Casio, it was for my 6 year old son so I felt it was good enough untill he got better at playing.

If both piano's where the same price I'd have probably gone for the Yamaha mainly as the warranty is 'in home' whereas the Casio you need to box the thing up and ship it off, not very easy as the box is the size of a large coffin!

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paulj48

I bought a AP-245 last October for this price. I also compared the Yamaha … I bought a AP-245 last October for this price. I also compared the Yamaha but it was £200 more for very similar spec.My decision was made purely on cost so I choose the Casio, it was for my 6 year old son so I felt it was good enough untill he got better at playing.If both piano's where the same price I'd have probably gone for the Yamaha mainly as the warranty is 'in home' whereas the Casio you need to box the thing up and ship it off, not very easy as the box is the size of a large coffin!



I think it can depend on where you bought yours from. The Casio warranty is 3 years, I didn't check whether it was return to base, but the music chain I bought from said a 4 year on-site warranty applied (I'm going to check / look into / confirm that before I dispose of the box).

Personally, I'd probably be inclined to naturally favour Yamaha for a digital piano - but as I said, I've read lots of discussions about the various keyboard actions in use, and the GHS used on these sorts of Yamahas is just meant to be meh, really - the action on the current Celviano AP range (and the other better Casio digital pianos) is meant to be very decent, and on par with the better GH (Graded Hammer) Yamaha action.

So although the other attributes / spec are on par, I'd expect the action to be better comparing at these sorts of ranges between current models in the Casio and Yamaha line-up. Higher up the range, and I'd probably default to Yamaha, but at this sort of entry-level to mid-range (going up the various ranges) perhaps at the first half, I'd probably opt for Casio at the moment. I think that's probably a factor of Casio really making improvements in their recent line-ups though.

you're right the ap245 is selling out fast and one dealer gave me the following deal instead which i have taken:
in the end I have gone for a px-850 (with what looks like a good stool + standard cans) + 5 year warranty all for £650. Not an expert or near it, but from what I have researched this is a good price.

Original Poster

sunnyhot

you're right the ap245 is selling out fast and one dealer gave me the … you're right the ap245 is selling out fast and one dealer gave me the following deal instead which i have taken:in the end I have gone for a px-850 (with what looks like a good stool + standard cans) + 5 year warranty all for £650. Not an expert or near it, but from what I have researched this is a good price.



That does sound a great price - well done.

I think the 850 equates to the 450 in the Celviano range. So a lot, there, for not a lot of money (relatively!).

Thanks.
The AP245 looks to be almost better than the 250- as it has 2x 20w as opposed to 2 x 12w

I'm really happy. I just need to find a cheap, adjustable piano stool

sunnyhot

you're right the ap245 is selling out fast and one dealer gave me the … you're right the ap245 is selling out fast and one dealer gave me the following deal instead which i have taken:in the end I have gone for a px-850 (with what looks like a good stool + standard cans) + 5 year warranty all for £650. Not an expert or near it, but from what I have researched this is a good price.



Who did you deal with? That sounds an absolute bargain

melodicverse

Who did you deal with? That sounds an absolute bargain



i was inquiring with umbrella music about the ap-245 (around £499) and they offered me a deal on px-250 with stool (duet type, storage) and soundlab headphones. All arrived today. (£650 in total).
if you want to go for this deal let me know and i will pass on the contact number/name of person i spoke to.
also have the option of paying 0% interest over 6 months.


Edited by: "sunnyhot" 15th Jan 2014

sunnyhot

i was inquiring with umbrella music about the ap-245 (around £499) and … i was inquiring with umbrella music about the ap-245 (around £499) and they offered me a deal on px-250 with stool (duet type, storage) and soundlab headphones. All arrived today. (£650 in total).if you want to go for this deal let me know and i will pass on the contact number/name of person i spoke to.also have the option of paying 0% interest over 6 months.



Yes please
Was it the PX850? sorry you wrote 250 there or do you mean the AP250

yes i meant px-850.

i'll pass on details tomorrow

sunnyhot

yes i meant px-850.i'll pass on details tomorrow



Please could you pass it on today? I'll call them tomorrow. I currently have a AP245 that is waiting to be dispatched and if so, I would like to cancel that order as soon as possible

melodicverse

Please could you pass it on today? I'll call them tomorrow. I currently … Please could you pass it on today? I'll call them tomorrow. I currently have a AP245 that is waiting to be dispatched and if so, I would like to cancel that order as soon as possible



its richard at umbrella music
Richard
01992 890 472
i would send an email now and he might give you a call.
richard@umbrellamusic.co.uk

tell him sunny sent you! ( i might get a free tambourine )

Original Poster

melodicverse

Thanks. The AP245 looks to be almost better than the 250- as it has 2x … Thanks. The AP245 looks to be almost better than the 250- as it has 2x 20w as opposed to 2 x 12wI'm really happy. I just need to find a cheap, adjustable piano stool



It's not better than the AP-250 - the specs are exactly the same that I can see - even down to the power output. The 245 doesn't have 2x20w, in the Celviano range, it's only the 450 and above that do.

Not a fan of Casio keys myself - the 'feel' just isn't there for me - but this is a great instrument for the price.

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xeroc

Not a fan of Casio keys myself - the 'feel' just isn't there for me - … Not a fan of Casio keys myself - the 'feel' just isn't there for me - but this is a great instrument for the price.



Have you played this latest generation?

That's one of the aspects that the current Casio models in this range and the Privia range have improved on.

The keyboard and action is common across the x50 Celviano and Privia range, and is well thought of and reviewed - easily on par with Yamaha's higher spec Graded Hammer (as opposed to GHS).

Lester Burnham

Have you played this latest generation?That's one of the aspects that the … Have you played this latest generation?That's one of the aspects that the current Casio models in this range and the Privia range have improved on.The keyboard and action is common across the x50 Celviano and Privia range, and is well thought of and reviewed - easily on par with Yamaha's higher spec Graded Hammer (as opposed to GHS).



I have indeed. It is the action that I do not like. It feels too mechanical.

I much prefer Roland and don't think I would buy anything other.

Still, an astonishing price for this.

Original Poster

xeroc

I have indeed. It is the action that I do not like. It feels too … I have indeed. It is the action that I do not like. It feels too mechanical.I much prefer Roland and don't think I would buy anything other.Still, an astonishing price for this.



Well each to their own - most of the discussions / reviews I read, it's not the action that people have any issues with on the current Casio Celvianos / Privias - but I guess feel / touch is a very individual thing.

I've always played real pianos, and the first thing that truly dawned on me when I started playing my AP-245 is the surprise that it didn't feel any different - not too heavy, not too light. Still not sure about the special key coating - but after playing for a while, it isn't noticable. The action, though - for me, at least, has been so unremarkable, because it feels so natural to me.

Just thought I'd drop a line of additional information. I spoke with a couple of music shops and the reason for the aggressive pricing is because the AP-245 is actually a US model that they had surplus supply of. As a result, it's been distributed around the world as a "limited edition" to clear out the stock.

Technically speaking, there is no difference between the AP-245 and the AP-250 but for the price and while it's available, it's certainly not something to turn your nose up at. I'm hovering over the "Buy Now" button right now. Just want to pop into Costco first before I commit to see if they've got any.

Enjoy!

Original Poster

tavueni

Just thought I'd drop a line of additional information. I spoke with a … Just thought I'd drop a line of additional information. I spoke with a couple of music shops and the reason for the aggressive pricing is because the AP-245 is actually a US model that they had surplus supply of. As a result, it's been distributed around the world as a "limited edition" to clear out the stock.Technically speaking, there is no difference between the AP-245 and the AP-250 but for the price and while it's available, it's certainly not something to turn your nose up at. I'm hovering over the "Buy Now" button right now. Just want to pop into Costco first before I commit to see if they've got any.Enjoy!



Well there's all sorts of rumours - but as far as I know, I've not seen it advertised or sold in the US.

The spec is identical to the AP-250, so it's almost certainly just a badge engineered version. If that's because they had surplus stock of the AP-250 in the US, well I guess it's a possibility, but oddly enough, in other forums, I've read several comments about people in the US struggling to buy / find current models from the Celviano range.

The story I heard was that they wanted to boost sales and clear sales from the Celviano range (maybe the AP-250 hadn't sold that well compared with the AP-450 and AP650) and wanted to undercut Yamaha.

Truth be told, although I think the AP-250 is very fairly priced, and a very decent digital piano, that easily stacks up to the equivalent Yamaha, if I was thinking of an AP-250 at the prices they sell at, I'd spend that bit extra and get an AP-450.

My gems from the Celviano range are the AP-245 and AP450. There's nothing that's important to me with the 650 over the 450, and for the limited time the 245 is available, you'd be nuts to by a 250.

tavueni

Just thought I'd drop a line of additional information. I spoke with a … Just thought I'd drop a line of additional information. I spoke with a couple of music shops and the reason for the aggressive pricing is because the AP-245 is actually a US model that they had surplus supply of. As a result, it's been distributed around the world as a "limited edition" to clear out the stock.Technically speaking, there is no difference between the AP-245 and the AP-250 but for the price and while it's available, it's certainly not something to turn your nose up at. I'm hovering over the "Buy Now" button right now. Just want to pop into Costco first before I commit to see if they've got any.Enjoy!



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Thankyou OP!!!
Really appreciate all the comments and advice from yourself and all other fellow members.
Last week I almost bought the AP250 with a fancy stool for £650 and I thought that was a bargain. After coming across this post, I've shopped around, made numerous calls and voila have bagged for my little girl an AP245 with an adjustable deluxe stool for £499 delivered!
Just goes to show how HUKD really does deliver

Having tried out various DPs of this type I can honestly say the AP series is a top notch line. Currently the X50 series is about to be discontinued in favour of the X60 series, and theyre offered at an incredible price right now. I never thought Id be going for a Casio again but these things are amazing!
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