Casio Privia PX-150 digital piano bundle £499.00 @ rimmersmusic
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Casio Privia PX-150 digital piano bundle £499.00 @ rimmersmusic

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Found 8th Jun 2014
Casio Privia PX-150 Digital piano bundle, with official stand, pedal board (3 pedals), height adjustable (Stagg) bench, 4 year guarantee.

Details:-

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Casio PX150 Digital Piano | Bench, CS67 Stand & SP33 Pedal Board
(Replaces The Casio PX135)

Casio`s new PX-150 represents a significant step in the continuing evolution of the Privia digital pianos. A combination of a new keyboard action and a powerful new sound engine provide a new level of detail, nuance and expression, giving you the superior grand piano experience in the lightweight and stylish design.The Privia`s award-winning grand piano sound has been dramatically improved. The Casio PX-150 puts to use more than three times the memory of the previous generation for a more natural piano tone. Providing unmatched realism and detail is Casio`s new proprietary sound source `AiR` (Acoustic and intelligent Resonator). The `AiR` engine provides seamless dynamics for a remarkably expressive and powerful performance. A new Damper Resonance simulator provides the rich sounds of the strings when the sustain pedal is used.

The 88-note Tri-sensor scaled hammer action keyboard on the new PX-150 also features newly designed simulated Ebony and Ivory textured keys that give you an incredible feel of playing a real acoustic piano. The Privia`s three sensors capture the dynamics of your performance with unparalleled speed and accuracy. To make the playing experience even more enhanced, the action and sound engine take into consideration the speed at which different sized hammers move inside an acoustic grand relative to the velocity with which the keys are pressed, this timing nuance provides a subtle yet highly authentic-sounding experience. The realistic sounds that the Casio PX-150 can produce don`t end at the grand piano. In addition, you can enjoy many other instrument voices including strings, organs, electric pianos and bass. The split and layer function allows you to merge different sounds at either end of the keyboard. Using the duet mode, you can share your playing experience with fellow pianists. This is useful if you`re just starting out as it allows both student and teacher to play simultaneously. The PX-150 even allows you to record your practices and performances, and play them back.

Casio continues the tradition or providing `class compliant` USB connectivity on Privia digital pianos. This allows Privia to be used with Mac or Windows computers without the need for downloading drivers. Class Compliant USB MIDI Privia digital pianos can also be used as a controller for the Apple iPad simply with the use of Apple`s Camera Connection Kit.

Features Include:

Number of keys and sensors: 88 keys / 3 sensors per key
Hammer Action: Scaled Hammer Action, Tri-sensor Scaled Hammer Action Keyboard II
Key surface finish: White Keys : ivory feel, Black Keys : ebony feel
Sound Source: AiR (Acoustic & intelligent Resonator), Multi-dimensional Morphing AiR Sound Source
Duet Mode: Yes
Music Library: Yes
Number of Preset Songs: 60
User Songs: 10
Capacity for User Songs: Approx. 900KB (Approx. 90KB/song)
Lesson Function : Part ON / OFF
Metronome: Yes
Tempo Setting: 20 255BPM
USB (to host): Yes
Phones/Output: 2 (Stereo Standard)
Speakers: (13 cm x 6 cm) x 2
Amplifiers: 8 W + 8 W
Colour: Black
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£499.00 was about the normal price for the PX-150 by itself, or with a normal x-frame stand or budget bench. But this is the official CS67 stand, and official 3 pedal (SP33) pedal board (which allows half-pedaling on this piano), and a very decent, height adjustable Stagg bench / stool.

Casio's Privia and Celviano range all share a common action - which is very well thought of and compares very well with actions from a lot more prestigious digital pianos, and is exceptional (better than anything else) at this price point. They also share the same fundamental sound source / engine, which although is enhanced (by increased polyphony, or other additional effects).

This is a true, decent performing, digital piano, with 88 scaled and weighted hammer action keys, with 3 sensors per key. 128 note polyphony, midi (over USB) capable, supports half-pedalling (with the Casio 3 pedal SP33 unit)
Bottom line: entry level price, punches a lot higher in both action, and sound.

For anybody looking for a digital piano, at entry level prices, this is a bargain with this current bundle.

18 Comments

This deal is available from any casio dealer across the country , not just the shop linked to above.

This isn't good value for money at all. It's an ok bundle price, but compared to other products, it's not worth it. There are still some AP-245 models around at this price.

EDIT: Also, never buy a piano before trying it!

EDIT 2: Cheaper here

Edited by: "stringsonfire" 9th Jun 2014

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cRuNcHiE

This deal is available from any casio dealer across the country , not … This deal is available from any casio dealer across the country , not just the shop linked to above.


True, but the other bundles don't tend to have the same quality bench / stool with them - perhaps they'd match it, though.

Plus a 4 year guarantee is a year better than the standard 3 year warranty with Casio.

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stringsonfire

This isn't good value for money at all. It's an ok bundle price, but … This isn't good value for money at all. It's an ok bundle price, but compared to other products, it's not worth it. There are still some AP-245 models around at this price.EDIT: Also, never buy a piano before trying it!EDIT 2: Cheaper here


Good link - it is a fair deal cheaper there.

As to the value, it IS good value. I have an AP-245 too, and the PX-150 is essentially the same piano. All you're getting with the AP-245 is a nicer cabinet, it's the same fundamental piano, just a smaller form factor - plus you're not getting the closable lid (as you would with the truly equivalent Privia, the PX-750).

And whilst I'd agree, it's always best to play one before buying, I bought my AP-245 without playing one. At this price range, Casio's action is more authentic than the equivalent Yamaha (GHS on this level of pianos). Many prefer Casio's action to Yamaha's better action (GH).

The Best Selling point is you can make them wear headphones!!!

Lester Burnham

Good link - it is a fair deal cheaper there.As to the value, it IS good … Good link - it is a fair deal cheaper there.As to the value, it IS good value. I have an AP-245 too, and the PX-150 is essentially the same piano. All you're getting with the AP-245 is a nicer cabinet, it's the same fundamental piano, just a smaller form factor - plus you're not getting the closable lid (as you would with the truly equivalent Privia, the PX-750).And whilst I'd agree, it's always best to play one before buying, I bought my AP-245 without playing one. At this price range, Casio's action is more authentic than the equivalent Yamaha (GHS on this level of pianos). Many prefer Casio's action to Yamaha's better action (GH).



The extended warranty is pointless. I've yet to visit a good music store that actually offers an extended warranty, as digital pianos don't tend to go wrong. It's the sort of thing that happens within a few weeks. There are perfectly functioning digital pianos available used that are almost two decades old! So this is just a sales tactic.

I played everything available under a grand. I by far preferred the YDP162, then the YDP142, then the Casio range. However, I found an AP-245 for £250 pretty much as new, under 6 months old, so I'd have been mad not to have bought it! But I wouldn't say many people prefer Casio to the GH. Plenty of opinions to be had on PianoWorld.

They are very similar. The Casio comparison tool shows the AP-245 (AP-250) has a couple of extra features. With a cabinet, the AP-245 will sound better than this. And given the amount of dust I wiped off the lid after a month of no time for piano, I would not want to own anything without a lid!

There really aren't many bargains to be had for Digital Pianos. If I hadn't found that AP-245 on the cheap, I'd have found a second hand YDP-161.

It's also worth noting that anything above this model isn't really worth any extra - Casio are stuffing their models full of spec, but it's nothing important on a digital piano. It's fair to say that Casio's models are finally catching up with the main competitors, and in a few generations they may even be on even footing!
Edited by: "stringsonfire" 9th Jun 2014

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stringsonfire

This isn't good value for money at all. It's an ok bundle price, but … This isn't good value for money at all. It's an ok bundle price, but compared to other products, it's not worth it. There are still some AP-245 models around at this price.EDIT: Also, never buy a piano before trying it!EDIT 2: Cheaper here

stringsonfire

I played everything available under a grand. I by far preferred the … I played everything available under a grand. I by far preferred the YDP162, then the YDP142, then the Casio range.

stringsonfire

However, I found an AP-245 for £250 pretty much as new, under 6 months … However, I found an AP-245 for £250 pretty much as new, under 6 months old, so I'd have been mad not to have bought it! But I wouldn't say many people prefer Casio to the GH. Plenty of opinions to be had on PianoWorld.

stringsonfire

They are very similar. The Casio comparison tool shows the AP-245 … They are very similar. The Casio comparison tool shows the AP-245 (AP-250) has a couple of extra features. With a cabinet, the AP-245 will sound better than this. And given the amount of dust I wiped off the lid after a month of no time for piano, I would not want to own anything without a lid!

stringsonfire

There really aren't many bargains to be had for Digital Pianos. If I … There really aren't many bargains to be had for Digital Pianos. If I hadn't found that AP-245 on the cheap, I'd have found a second hand YDP-161.It's also worth noting that anything above this model isn't really worth any extra - Casio are stuffing their models full of spec, but it's nothing important on a digital piano. It's fair to say that Casio's models are finally catching up with the main competitors, and in a few generations they may even be on even footing!


Compared with synths and other keyboards, though, they do have more complex actions that can go wrong for some.

There are plenty, in forums, that appreciate having a longer than normal warranty - especially if it's on-site.



I've played both Yamahas. And I can't get along with the action. GHS feels too light, and almost synth-y. GH on the better models is slightly better, but is outclassed by Casios current x50 range action (common on all current Privias and Celvianos, including the AP-245, and notably better than their action in the previous range).



Even GH is quite light - but I'd concede it's not quite as soft as GHS. I'd still easily prefer Casio's current action.



The AP-245 / AP-250 is identical, and is EXACTLY the same base / fundamental unit as the PX-150. I have both (PX-150 and AP-245). They are the same.

As to the AP-245 sounding better - well the speakers are in a slightly different position, but are the same spec. The real difference is the cabinet, and lid with the AP-245 / AP-250. But I bought a cover for my PX-150 when I bought it (it's in an upstairs room), so difference will be negligible for me - perhaps better with the PX-150, since the AP-245 / AP-250 lid still leaves a slight gap (look at it from the front with lid down / resting on the rubber stops - there's probably a half cm gap there.



At this range, they are a better prospect than the Yamaha models. Casio is beginning to gain ground in the low to mid-end digital piano market. Their action is truly excellent. And both the YDP-142 and YDP-162 - like to have a think about how many sensors in their actions?

I don't have time to argue with you. Lots of facts based on opinions. I disagree with about half of what you said. So:

Link or it didn't happen.

Try before buying to make sure it's the best action for you. Opinions are only worth so much.

lol. rimmers music

Are there any deals for the PX350? I think it has better connectivity options than the PX150,which suits me as I want to connect it to a music PC & speakers

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stringsonfire

I don't have time to argue with you. Lots of facts based on opinions. I … I don't have time to argue with you. Lots of facts based on opinions. I disagree with about half of what you said. So:Link or it didn't happen.


Link what?

The PX-150 and AP-245 / AP-250, and PX-750 are essentially the same piano. Variances in packaging only. Spec (on features / capabilities) is identical.

PX-350 only varies in speakers (slightly) and bells and whistles (ie additional sounds, rhythms, midi connectivity and recording options). It has the same polyphony (128) same action (Tri-sensor Scaled Hammer Action Keyboard II) and same sound engine (AiR).

It's only the PX-850 and AP-450 (and AP-650) that actually have anything tangible to the sound engine - ie increased polyphony (256, as opposed to 128 in all the other lower models), plus additional resonance (string, as well as damper, and lid simulator) - plus increased power output and more / better speakers.

The action is common across all of them - although the CDP range doesn't share the action.

As to the Yamaha actions in equivalent models, it's true - they are lighter, and are 2 sensor until you get to the GH3.

I'm not going to trawl the internet and link to everything I've said, it's so fecking tedious. I really don't care if you don't believe me - be in ignorance for all I care. You clearly are in the dark about some things, and that's your choice - I'm not trying to convince you otherwise. A thread like this serves more than me and you.

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sbirsen

Are there any deals for the PX350? I think it has better connectivity … Are there any deals for the PX350? I think it has better connectivity options than the PX150,which suits me as I want to connect it to a music PC & speakers


I haven't seen any bundles offered for the PX-350 - but that said, I haven't really looked.

It does have better connectivity, I think it has true midi connectivity (as well as USB midi) plus true line ins and line outs. PX-150, AP-245 / AP-250 and PX-750 just have USB midi and headphone sockets.

If it's just pure midi and audio, then many do similar with more basic connectivity using USB midi and take audio from one of the headphone outputs.

The PX-350 is more Casio's mid-level stage digital piano (the PX-5S is their step above that, but don't think it has any onboard speakers, purely a stage piano), whereas the PX-150 is more the entry level one. Both share the same action, and have the same polyphony and sound engine though. But the PX-350 has loads more sounds and rhythms, slightly more power, and slightly better speakers. And generally, not really that much more expensive than the PX-150. It's the bundles, really, that make the PX-150 a bargain.

They've all got very decent actions, and modern sound engine (AiR is a notable improvement over their previous sound engine, but the action is the biggest step up for them).

So I suppose it depends on exactly how you want to connect it up, really. If you're just connecting to a PC for midi, merely having USB on the PX-150 isn't that much of a restriction. But depending on how you want to connect to speakers may be.

Another firm thumbs up for the Casio Privia pianos. ..had all from the PX-100, 120, 310, 320, 330, PX-3 and now on the 350 and always been thoroughly impressed by 1) weight of keys and action 2) sound quality and 3) physical weight. They are very portable. I recommend them to all my pupils now and the 350 in particular has a lovely action and a fantastic feel to the keys- the black keys do actually feel like wood and the white keys have an ivory touch to them.

This dp was so well reviewed I paid this same price about a year ago. It was without any of the expensive extras in this deal... Outstanding digital piano in this (and in almost any) price range compared to what was available until casio made the new x50 dp range. No way you can be disappointed with this one. Well spotted. Hot.

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stringsonfire

This isn't good value for money at all. It's an ok bundle price, but … This isn't good value for money at all. It's an ok bundle price, but compared to other products, it's not worth it. There are still some AP-245 models around at this price.EDIT: Also, never buy a piano before trying it!EDIT 2: Cheaper here


Just to point out, that is no longer cheaper, it's now £499, so the deal - whether you choose to go to a real, bricks and mortar store, or online retailer, or get another music store to price match, is going to come down to convenience, preference, and the particular bundle add-ons that suit you.

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focusmore

This dp was so well reviewed I paid this same price about a year ago. It … This dp was so well reviewed I paid this same price about a year ago. It was without any of the expensive extras in this deal... Outstanding digital piano in this (and in almost any) price range compared to what was available until casio made the new x50 dp range. No way you can be disappointed with this one. Well spotted. Hot.


Indeed - I bought one, recently, taking advantage of this bundle. And at the turn of the year bought an AP-245 when that deal was on.

The AP-245 was an absolute bargain at the time, but in real terms is fundamentally the same piano as the PX-150, so the advantage then, was getting a full cabinet digital piano (plus whatever was doing the rounds in terms of a bundle).

The PX-150 is excellent at it's price point, really, there's nothing else that's quite as good for the money.

Lester Burnham

I haven't seen any bundles offered for the PX-350 - but that said, I … I haven't seen any bundles offered for the PX-350 - but that said, I haven't really looked.It does have better connectivity, I think it has true midi connectivity (as well as USB midi) plus true line ins and line outs. PX-150, AP-245 / AP-250 and PX-750 just have USB midi and headphone sockets.If it's just pure midi and audio, then many do similar with more basic connectivity using USB midi and take audio from one of the headphone outputs.The PX-350 is more Casio's mid-level stage digital piano (the PX-5S is their step above that, but don't think it has any onboard speakers, purely a stage piano), whereas the PX-150 is more the entry level one. Both share the same action, and have the same polyphony and sound engine though. But the PX-350 has loads more sounds and rhythms, slightly more power, and slightly better speakers. And generally, not really that much more expensive than the PX-150. It's the bundles, really, that make the PX-150 a bargain.They've all got very decent actions, and modern sound engine (AiR is a notable improvement over their previous sound engine, but the action is the biggest step up for them).So I suppose it depends on exactly how you want to connect it up, really. If you're just connecting to a PC for midi, merely having USB on the PX-150 isn't that much of a restriction. But depending on how you want to connect to speakers may be.



I plan to connect the Casio to a Roland Edirol audio interface, which has both digital and analago outputs that I could use to an amplifier. As a result the speaker (and sound) limitations on the PX150 compared to teh PX350 don't really make a difference to me, but the sound quality will.

What I am not clear about is how the headphone jack outputs the sound. As opposed to the PX350, where there are 2 LINE In and 2 LINE Out, the PX150 only has a headphone jack. How would this affect the sound quality ? Thanks

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sbirsen

I plan to connect the Casio to a Roland Edirol audio interface, which has … I plan to connect the Casio to a Roland Edirol audio interface, which has both digital and analago outputs that I could use to an amplifier. As a result the speaker (and sound) limitations on the PX150 compared to teh PX350 don't really make a difference to me, but the sound quality will. What I am not clear about is how the headphone jack outputs the sound. As opposed to the PX350, where there are 2 LINE In and 2 LINE Out, the PX150 only has a headphone jack. How would this affect the sound quality ? Thanks


I'm not sure how much of an impact using headphone output, rather than line-out would affect sound quality.

Ignoring the connections, for a second, the sound engine in the PX-150 and PX-350 is the same (albeit, the PX-350 has much, much more in terms of other sounds, plus there may be some other options to tweak it). So both set to Concert Grand Piano (using the preselect), with no other changes to the sound, and both outputting using the headphone output, the sound should be, to all intents and purposes, identical.
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