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Cateye Orb Black Bar End Bike Lights
Stay visible day or night with Cateye Orb Black Bar End Bike Lights, with constant or flashing modes to improve your chances of being seen, both from the back and from the side, Orb Bar End lights increase your visible width on the road. These lights have a durable aluminium construction with polished black finish. Easy to use, inset into the end of road bike handlebars (with an inner diameter of 18.5mm-22mm).

Cateye Orb Black Bar End Bike Lights Extra Info
Bar end bike lights (handlebars with inner diameter of 18.5 - 22mm)
Provides strong sideways visibility
2 x 2032 batteries included
Durable aluminium body
Lens acts as power & mode button
Weight: 20g
Output/Runtime: Constant 5 Lm/50 hrs, Fast Flashing: 5 Lm/100 hrs, Slow Flashing: 5 Lm/100 hrs
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Broc_Mudflap17/09/2019 21:48

You are most likely wasting your valuable words. Most 'cyclists' on here …You are most likely wasting your valuable words. Most 'cyclists' on here hate to be visible, plus they will worry about the extra weight involved using these additions. Not to mention the drag factor. Valuable microseconds could be at risk!!Heat from me though.


Just on HUKD for a quick look before bed. I am now ready to sleep after reading your comment.

Yawwwwnnnnnn
Broc_Mudflap17/09/2019 21:48

You are most likely wasting your valuable words. Most 'cyclists' on here …You are most likely wasting your valuable words. Most 'cyclists' on here hate to be visible, plus they will worry about the extra weight involved using these additions. Not to mention the drag factor. Valuable microseconds could be at risk!!Heat from me though.


Oh hell yeah. I hate to be more visible to a 1 tonne vehicle which could turn me in to a tin of chunky chopped tomatoes at the 5 degree turn of a wheel. With regards to the extra weight factor I’m pretty sure a quick dump prior to my journey would allow me to wear 10 of these from head to toe. Anyway mr driver please ensure your 1 meter at 30 mph and under and 1.5 meter at 30 plus distance from a biker

Oh yeah heat added
JESUS!18/09/2019 06:42

It people, not the vehicle they use. I ride and drive. I see numpty’s on b …It people, not the vehicle they use. I ride and drive. I see numpty’s on both modes of transport on a daily basis. These look good though. Heat added.


Exactly. I’d imagine most cyclists are also drivers. But let’s carry on the “them and us” mentality by having a good old bash at cyclists.
Rolefitleader17/09/2019 21:27

Hi,any thing that make you more visible on the road has got to be a good …Hi,any thing that make you more visible on the road has got to be a good thing.and the price seems good


You are most likely wasting your valuable words.

Most 'cyclists' on here hate to be visible, plus they will worry about the extra weight involved using these additions. Not to mention the drag factor. Valuable microseconds could be at risk!!

Heat from me though.
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Hi,any thing that make you more visible on the road has got to be a good thing.and the price seems good
Edited by: "Rolefitleader" 17th Sep
Rolefitleader17/09/2019 21:27

Hi,any thing that make you more visible on the road has got to be a good …Hi,any thing that make you more visible on the road has got to be a good thing.and the price seems good


You are most likely wasting your valuable words.

Most 'cyclists' on here hate to be visible, plus they will worry about the extra weight involved using these additions. Not to mention the drag factor. Valuable microseconds could be at risk!!

Heat from me though.
Broc_Mudflap17/09/2019 21:48

You are most likely wasting your valuable words. Most 'cyclists' on here …You are most likely wasting your valuable words. Most 'cyclists' on here hate to be visible, plus they will worry about the extra weight involved using these additions. Not to mention the drag factor. Valuable microseconds could be at risk!!Heat from me though.


Just on HUKD for a quick look before bed. I am now ready to sleep after reading your comment.

Yawwwwnnnnnn
Broc_Mudflap17/09/2019 21:48

You are most likely wasting your valuable words. Most 'cyclists' on here …You are most likely wasting your valuable words. Most 'cyclists' on here hate to be visible, plus they will worry about the extra weight involved using these additions. Not to mention the drag factor. Valuable microseconds could be at risk!!Heat from me though.


I am a 'cyclist'... and concur.
Broc_Mudflap17/09/2019 21:48

You are most likely wasting your valuable words. Most 'cyclists' on here …You are most likely wasting your valuable words. Most 'cyclists' on here hate to be visible, plus they will worry about the extra weight involved using these additions. Not to mention the drag factor. Valuable microseconds could be at risk!!Heat from me though.


Oh hell yeah. I hate to be more visible to a 1 tonne vehicle which could turn me in to a tin of chunky chopped tomatoes at the 5 degree turn of a wheel. With regards to the extra weight factor I’m pretty sure a quick dump prior to my journey would allow me to wear 10 of these from head to toe. Anyway mr driver please ensure your 1 meter at 30 mph and under and 1.5 meter at 30 plus distance from a biker

Oh yeah heat added
Cyclists... Hmmm.. If they know how to buy a red light they should know how to stop at one...
Edited by: "snappyfish" 17th Sep
snappyfish17/09/2019 22:43

Cyclists... Hmmm.. If they know how to buy a red light they should know …Cyclists... Hmmm.. If they know how to buy a red light they should know how to stop at one...


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masterjay17/09/2019 22:04

Just on HUKD for a quick look before bed. I am now ready to sleep after …Just on HUKD for a quick look before bed. I am now ready to sleep after reading your comment.Yawwwwnnnnnn


A most predictable retort
snappyfish17/09/2019 22:43

Cyclists... Hmmm.. If they know how to buy a red light they should know …Cyclists... Hmmm.. If they know how to buy a red light they should know how to stop at one...


A lot of motorists I see while out on my bike have that very same problem.
alexlea8818/09/2019 06:35

A lot of motorists I see while out on my bike have that very same problem.


It’s people, not the vehicle they use. I ride and drive. I see numpty’s on both modes of transport on a daily basis.

These look good though. Heat added.
Edited by: "JESUS!" 18th Sep
JESUS!18/09/2019 06:42

It people, not the vehicle they use. I ride and drive. I see numpty’s on b …It people, not the vehicle they use. I ride and drive. I see numpty’s on both modes of transport on a daily basis. These look good though. Heat added.


Exactly. I’d imagine most cyclists are also drivers. But let’s carry on the “them and us” mentality by having a good old bash at cyclists.
rsmac8117/09/2019 22:17

Oh hell yeah. I hate to be more visible to a 1 tonne vehicle which could …Oh hell yeah. I hate to be more visible to a 1 tonne vehicle which could turn me in to a tin of chunky chopped tomatoes at the 5 degree turn of a wheel. With regards to the extra weight factor I’m pretty sure a quick dump prior to my journey would allow me to wear 10 of these from head to toe. Anyway mr driver please ensure your 1 meter at 30 mph and under and 1.5 meter at 30 plus distance from a biker Oh yeah heat added


1 meter's pretty close, hows about get in the other lane like you would when overtaking a car? Roughly 2 metres.

As for the product, it does help visibility but I'm concerned about the legality. You're not meant to have a red light showing at the front of your bike because it confuses road users so does this shine forward at all or is it purely a side light?
Edited by: "CampGareth" 18th Sep
masterjay17/09/2019 22:04

Just on HUKD for a quick look before bed. I am now ready to sleep after …Just on HUKD for a quick look before bed. I am now ready to sleep after reading your comment.Yawwwwnnnnnn


Awww, sweet dreams wittle one. Hope your mummy sings you some cuddly sleepy wullabies.
Edited by: "Broc_Mudflap" 18th Sep
CampGareth18/09/2019 07:14

1 meter's pretty close, hows about get in the other lane like you would …1 meter's pretty close, hows about get in the other lane like you would when overtaking a car? Roughly 2 metres.As for the product, it does help visibility but I'm concerned about the legality. You're not meant to have a red light showing at the front of your bike because it confuses road users so does this shine forward at all or is it purely a side light?


Don’t be concerned these I believe are for road bikes using drop Handlebars so would actually be facing backwards
James_Dewberry18/09/2019 08:00

Don’t be concerned these I believe are for road bikes using drop H …Don’t be concerned these I believe are for road bikes using drop Handlebars so would actually be facing backwards


Yep...I've seen these things and they work well. If only they were USB powered
Broc_Mudflap17/09/2019 21:48

You are most likely wasting your valuable words. Most 'cyclists' on here …You are most likely wasting your valuable words. Most 'cyclists' on here hate to be visible, plus they will worry about the extra weight involved using these additions. Not to mention the drag factor. Valuable microseconds could be at risk!!Heat from me though.


I wouldn't bother buying them either. Even if visible, most motorists have precious seconds they can't possibly loose. If it involves screwing/hurting or otherwise messing with a cyclist to save those precious seconds, it's all fair game. What's a cyclists health compared to 15 seconds off car journey times?!
It is a 5 lumen light, yet the table at the bottom of the page after clicking description says you should have 100 lumen in a well lit road at night for the rear light (although bizarrely only 50 lumens for unlit streets, surely they have that the wrong way round?)
D.Crockett18/09/2019 12:34

It is a 5 lumen light, yet the table at the bottom of the page after …It is a 5 lumen light, yet the table at the bottom of the page after clicking description says you should have 100 lumen in a well lit road at night for the rear light (although bizarrely only 50 lumens for unlit streets, surely they have that the wrong way round?)


You need a brighter light in brighter surroundings (otherwise your light gets lost in amongst all the other streetlights etc).

If you're riding down an unlit road, then your little red light stands out so much more.

And these little orb lights aren't supposed to replace your rear light...but they will be visible and do work (I've seen them in use)
Sadly the road development policies in 50s made cycling impractical in this country. We are ages away from Denmark, Holland etc when it comes to cycling infrastructure. I am a recently qualified gp registrar and I cycle exclusively to my home visits and surgery commutes. I practise what I preach.

Situation is grim in my area which is not far off from national statsI.e. my area has 3rd highest prevalence of diabetes in the country and 25% 10 year olds are obese.

We are seeing tyre fragments and brake dust in our respiratory childhood asthma clinics.

But I agree with the nay sayers...why bother change when we all going to die at some point. Let's just mock cyclists in general for the time being.

There will always be a strong enough reason to adopt lifestyle and we should respect people's choices not mock them eitherways.

BTW I pay road tax for the cars I own and which I dont drive before anyone points fingers.
Edited by: "pep411" 18th Sep
CampGareth18/09/2019 07:14

1 meter's pretty close, hows about get in the other lane like you would …1 meter's pretty close, hows about get in the other lane like you would when overtaking a car? Roughly 2 metres.As for the product, it does help visibility but I'm concerned about the legality. You're not meant to have a red light showing at the front of your bike because it confuses road users so does this shine forward at all or is it purely a side light?


I am a cyclist and a driver, and have to say I completely disagree with the first part of this.
Drivers totally overreact when overtaking a cyclist. Many will literally pull out driving towards oncoming traffic in the opposite lane, without indication for fear of getting anywhere closer to the cyclist than 3-4 meters therefore putting oncoming drivers in danger.
Drivers will then ‘expect’ you to know they are overtaking a cyclist when they suddenly pull out into your path without indication, and it should be you that takes evasive action.
Its not the responsibility of the oncoming traffic to see everything you’re about to do and make assumptions.
I’m pretty sure there is nothing in law to state ‘how much room’ you ‘have’ to give a cyclist when passing, but common sense ‘should’ prevail allowing a safe distance. I’d agree that 1.5-2.0m is sufficient at 30mph limits.
I cycle a fair bit and am always baffled when cars overtake me literally on the wrong side of the road. I mean I really don’t need all that room at all to be/feel safe.
ghow00718/09/2019 16:23

I am a cyclist and a driver, and have to say I completely disagree with …I am a cyclist and a driver, and have to say I completely disagree with the first part of this.Drivers totally overreact when overtaking a cyclist. Many will literally pull out driving towards oncoming traffic in the opposite lane, without indication for fear of getting anywhere closer to the cyclist than 3-4 meters therefore putting oncoming drivers in danger.Drivers will then ‘expect’ you to know they are overtaking a cyclist when they suddenly pull out into your path without indication, and it should be you that takes evasive action.Its not the responsibility of the oncoming traffic to see everything you’re about to do and make assumptions.I’m pretty sure there is nothing in law to state ‘how much room’ you ‘have’ to give a cyclist when passing, but common sense ‘should’ prevail allowing a safe distance. I’d agree that 1.5-2.0m is sufficient at 30mph limits.I cycle a fair bit and am always baffled when cars overtake me literally on the wrong side of the road. I mean I really don’t need all that room at all to be/feel safe.


Myself cyclist and driver, I don't enjoy cycling but its cheaper and takes sametime as driving for my work commute,

I agree, most motorists are fannys and can't seem to grasp at how big there car is, on my journey home there might be 30-40% of drivers who come at a reasonable distants, the rest seem to think they own a bus. Just like when people go down tight roads and wait thinking there is no space.

Another pet hate is them revving past, makes it very nervy a cyclist.... On the cyclist side I wish people would stay as left as they possiblly can like I do.

I ride a mountain bike so I often go over drains as it does not bother me, but can understand road bikers staying bit wider ''sometimes'' to avoid drains.

Do I go past red lights?

Yes and no , I will in some places if there is no cars... which is wrong but I think every car driver would do the same if they did the commute all the time, I would not in a car because you don't have a good view that there is nothing there and the consequences will be higher.

I see over cylclist do it as the worst places and inconsiderate (mostly when its pedestrians walking across)

not trying to save its okay for me to do so though.


Ohhh and to add, I might have had 3 cars in the past 1.5 years that I felt was too close to me when overtaking, so overall pretty good
Edited by: "Gumbon" 18th Sep
rsmac8117/09/2019 22:17

...Anyway mr driver please ensure your 1 meter at 30 mph and under.......


Yeah, OK!

But, shouldn't cyclists also return that courtesy by keeping at least one metre away from a motorist's passenger side mirror when they are undertaking and refrain from undertaking if the distance between the car and kerb/verge is less than 1 metre?

But nope, they still keep steaming on by, with millimetres to spare, don't they?

Especially when drivers are trying to keep left in order to give those ignorant motorcyclists enough room (those who insist on overtaking while traffic is coming in the opposite direction) with their headlight beaming into the driver's eyes via the offside mirror.

Combine that with the cyclist's distracting epilepsy-inducing forward-facing strobe lights beaming into the driver's eyes via the near-side mirror!

Why is it, some cyclists are so arrogant and have a higher sense of worth than anyone else and insult the intelligence of motorists who CAN actually see them perfectly fine, without the need for them trying to be a mobile lighthouse?

IMHO, those flashing, retina-burning strobe cycle-lights should be banned!

Also, why is it necessary for some cyclists to put their own life in danger on very busy roads, when there is a perfectly good, purpose built cycle-track running adjacent to the road.

Now, if I had the gall to drive along that cycle-track, cyclists would be up in arms!
Edited by: "Ripperoo" 18th Sep
Rolefitleader17/09/2019 21:27

Hi,any thing that make you more visible on the road has got to be a good …Hi,any thing that make you more visible on the road has got to be a good thing.and the price seems good


Except for those retina-burning flashing strobe lights that get ever brighter as each Autumn/Winter approaches.

Why do cyclists also think it OK to have them flashing 200 times a minute?

All these selfish, ignorant cyclists are doing is distracting motorists and diverting attention away from other cyclists that may be on the same stretch of road, who have more respect for other road users and have regular cycle lights, that, "NEWSFLASH", any driver with eyes can see!

Those flashing strobe blinder lights should be banned IMHO and hopefully they will become illegal in the coming years!

Plus, I see a lot of cyclists travelling at say 30mph with the light beam trained half a mile or further down the road? Why?

If the light beam was trained 100 metres down the road, that would still give the cyclist enough time to take avoiding action if necessary, while also allowing oncoming traffic to see them without actually blinding them!

I would never contemplate leaving my main-beam on constantly out of respect for oncoming motorists, so why is it cyclists are so different/ignorant/arrogant?

The best thing I've seen a cyclist use that made them more visible was a white/grey high viz cycle jacket, similar to "Proviz Reflect360 Reflective Jacket", which are under £50 and way more effective and less annoying than those annoying strobe lights.
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Edited by: "Ripperoo" 18th Sep
snappyfish17/09/2019 22:43

Cyclists... Hmmm.. If they know how to buy a red light they should know …Cyclists... Hmmm.. If they know how to buy a red light they should know how to stop at one...


That's precisely the way I feel about taxi, van, bus, lorry and car drivers as well as motorcyclists that do the same but who also can use neither their indicators nor mirrors and fail to display road sense or courtesy
ghow00718/09/2019 16:23

I am a cyclist and a driver, and have to say I completely disagree with …I am a cyclist and a driver, and have to say I completely disagree with the first part of this.Drivers totally overreact when overtaking a cyclist. Many will literally pull out driving towards oncoming traffic in the opposite lane, without indication for fear of getting anywhere closer to the cyclist than 3-4 meters therefore putting oncoming drivers in danger.Drivers will then ‘expect’ you to know they are overtaking a cyclist when they suddenly pull out into your path without indication, and it should be you that takes evasive action.Its not the responsibility of the oncoming traffic to see everything you’re about to do and make assumptions.I’m pretty sure there is nothing in law to state ‘how much room’ you ‘have’ to give a cyclist when passing, but common sense ‘should’ prevail allowing a safe distance. I’d agree that 1.5-2.0m is sufficient at 30mph limits.I cycle a fair bit and am always baffled when cars overtake me literally on the wrong side of the road. I mean I really don’t need all that room at all to be/feel safe.


The highway code says "give as much space to a cyclist as you would a car". It's not a number, but if a car takes up an entire lane of say a dual carriageway then to overtake while giving enough space you switch to the other lane. The same applies on smaller roads, if you want to overtake a car you move into a different lane than it even if that lane is meant for oncoming traffic.

Speaking of which it's up to you to overtake safely. Do not overtake if there is oncoming traffic you will crash into or hold up, or if there is limited visibility.
Rhythmeister18/09/2019 19:19

That's precisely the way I feel about taxi, van, bus, lorry and car …That's precisely the way I feel about taxi, van, bus, lorry and car drivers as well as motorcyclists that do the same but who also can use neither their indicators nor mirrors and fail to display road sense or courtesy


Talking about cyclists that run RED Lights not chancers that time it wrong. Cyclists want respect how about knowing your small position on a busy road.
Edited by: "snappyfish" 19th Sep
snappyfish19/09/2019 10:01

Talking about cyclists that run RED Lights not chancers that time it … Talking about cyclists that run RED Lights not chancers that time it wrong. Cyclists want respect how about knowing your small position on a busy road.


Respecting the most vulnerable road users is part of being in control of a metal death box. I have two metal death boxes in case you're wondering
Rhythmeister19/09/2019 11:44

Respecting the most vulnerable road users is part of being in control of a …Respecting the most vulnerable road users is part of being in control of a metal death box. I have two metal death boxes in case you're wondering


It's a never ending argument, it's like trying to stick labradoors with greyhounds they are gonna clash....
Edited by: "snappyfish" 19th Sep
snappyfish19/09/2019 11:47

It's a never ending argument, it's live trying to stick labradoors with … It's a never ending argument, it's live trying to stick labradoors with greyhounds they are gonna clash....


They don't have a highway code, indicators and mirrors though!
Rhythmeister19/09/2019 12:07

They don't have a highway code, indicators and mirrors though!


Like most cyclists.
snappyfish19/09/2019 13:11

Like most cyclists.


Cyclists aren't required to use mirrors and indicators though, drivers are
Rhythmeister19/09/2019 18:26

Cyclists aren't required to use mirrors and indicators though, drivers are …Cyclists aren't required to use mirrors and indicators though, drivers are


Thats becuase they are number one on the road, so keep out the way and stop jumping red lights.
snappyfish19/09/2019 20:18

Thats becuase they are number one on the road, so keep out the way and …Thats becuase they are number one on the road, so keep out the way and stop jumping red lights.


We should all be equal on the road but a lot of drivers think otherwise, check out Ashley Neal's YouTube channel, scary stuff
CampGareth19/09/2019 07:16

The highway code says "give as much space to a cyclist as you would a …The highway code says "give as much space to a cyclist as you would a car". It's not a number, but if a car takes up an entire lane of say a dual carriageway then to overtake while giving enough space you switch to the other lane. The same applies on smaller roads, if you want to overtake a car you move into a different lane than it even if that lane is meant for oncoming traffic. Speaking of which it's up to you to overtake safely. Do not overtake if there is oncoming traffic you will crash into or hold up, or if there is limited visibility.


Exactly, and when you overtake in that other lane there is probably no more than 5-6 feet between vehicles so I would apply the same to passing a bike, and wouldn’t be in the oncoming lane. Even narrower roads rarely have lanes less than about 9-10 feet wide. My original point therefore stands.
I came back because I clicked the notification about my comment being liked. Jesus it turned into a warzone here.........
ghow00719/09/2019 21:09

Exactly, and when you overtake in that other lane there is probably no …Exactly, and when you overtake in that other lane there is probably no more than 5-6 feet between vehicles so I would apply the same to passing a bike, and wouldn’t be in the oncoming lane. Even narrower roads rarely have lanes less than about 9-10 feet wide. My original point therefore stands.


5-6 feet would do, it's the folk giving less than a metre that piss me off.

That's not easy to give though, especially when you think about car width. Apparently the minimum for new roads is 12 feet wide for a single lane so 24 feet for two lanes. If two people are driving minis at 4.5 feet wide that gives you roughly 7 feet between them, and 4 feet from each kerb (4 + 4.5 + 7 + 4.5 + 4 = 24). If you add a cyclist into the mix taking 2 feet on the left and needing 5-6 feet further for a safe overtake your mini just about crosses the line and leaves 4 feet between the cars, safe-ish, acceptable certainly. Now swap the minis for SUVs which are 6 1/2 feet wide (BMW X5, Porsche Cayenne, probably others), to give the cyclist enough space you end up 2.5 feet over the line with 1.5 feet between the cars and the SUV in the other lane has to move over to 1.5 feet from the kerb to give you enough space to overtake. You could alternatively put 3 feet between you and the cyclist and be 3 feet away from the other SUV which is preferable and what most people do.

That's why I say move over to the other lane. If you're in modern cars and trying to overtake in-lane you're going to fail and cross the line, forcing the other lane to take action anyway. Just do it properly and get it over with.
Rhythmeister19/09/2019 20:24

We should all be equal on the road but a lot of drivers think otherwise, …We should all be equal on the road but a lot of drivers think otherwise, check out Ashley Neal's YouTube channel, scary stuff


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pep41118/09/2019 15:03

Sadly the road development policies in 50s made cycling impractical in …Sadly the road development policies in 50s made cycling impractical in this country. We are ages away from Denmark, Holland etc when it comes to cycling infrastructure. I am a recently qualified gp registrar and I cycle exclusively to my home visits and surgery commutes. I practise what I preach. Situation is grim in my area which is not far off from national statsI.e. my area has 3rd highest prevalence of diabetes in the country and 25% 10 year olds are obese. We are seeing tyre fragments and brake dust in our respiratory childhood asthma clinics. But I agree with the nay sayers...why bother change when we all going to die at some point. Let's just mock cyclists in general for the time being.There will always be a strong enough reason to adopt lifestyle and we should respect people's choices not mock them eitherways.BTW I pay road tax for the cars I own and which I dont drive before anyone points fingers.


surely as a gp you should be able to distinguish between relevant types of diabetes when soapboaxing?
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