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cross play.. what is that?
cashinpocket05/04/2020 14:32

cross play.. what is that?


I assume OP meant to say "cross-buy". If you buy a Rift game that supports it, you'll also get the Quest version for free. And vice-versa.

Cross-Play/Cross-Platform instead means multiplayer game severs connect those from all supported platforms to play with/against each other. For example, someone playing a supported game on PC could play with someone on Xbox.
CMHammond05/04/2020 15:41

I assume OP meant to say "cross-buy". If you buy a Rift game that supports …I assume OP meant to say "cross-buy". If you buy a Rift game that supports it, you'll also get the Quest version for free. And vice-versa.Cross-Play/Cross-Platform instead means multiplayer game severs connect those from all supported platforms to play with/against each other. For example, someone playing a supported game on PC could play with someone on Xbox.



yes i just looked into it i dont own and vr headset yet but if i did i would want to maybe start with a oculus go then move up and buy a vive or maybe a rift......... but i wouldnt want to lose any games i already brought!

there is a thing called revive its a 3rd party sort of hack to get around it and be able to play any store games
with any headset


this really worries me about the vr market becuase the more closed it is the less people will buy into it
cashinpocket05/04/2020 15:54

yes i just looked into it i dont own and vr headset yet but if i did i …yes i just looked into it i dont own and vr headset yet but if i did i would want to maybe start with a oculus go then move up and buy a vive or maybe a rift......... but i wouldnt want to lose any games i already brought!there is a thing called revive its a 3rd party sort of hack to get around it and be able to play any store gameswith any headsetthis really worries me about the vr market becuase the more closed it is the less people will buy into it


Well, the only thing the Go has over the Quest is its price. There's also not cross-buy for the Go with Quest/Rift games AFAIK. That and it's only a 3DOF headset, not 6DOF.

I've heard of Revive, yeah, but not looked into it much. I think you might still need to own the games on Steam to get it to work though.

Closed markets aren't great, I agree. I'd rather own all my VR games on Steam, but Oculus knows they're making a lot of money by forcing people to buy on the Oculus Store, since their Quest headsets are selling like crazy. Not a lot of great sales for Oculus either.
CMHammond05/04/2020 16:00

Well, the only thing the Go has over the Quest is its price. There's also …Well, the only thing the Go has over the Quest is its price. There's also not cross-buy for the Go with Quest/Rift games AFAIK. That and it's only a 3DOF headset, not 6DOF.I've heard of Revive, yeah, but not looked into it much. I think you might still need to own the games on Steam to get it to work though.Closed markets aren't great, I agree. I'd rather own all my VR games on Steam, but Oculus knows they're making a lot of money by forcing people to buy on the Oculus Store, since their Quest headsets are selling like crazy. Not a lot of great sales for Oculus either.



yes it seems after all my binge watching youtube videos about which headset is best and all the tech stuff regrading how it all
works and what the differences are

it just comes down to

6dof
rift or a index

anything else is out there but the price point and older tech just donest seem worth it now
im trying to hold out maybe next year il buy one along side a new cheap mid range pc build

i am tempted though by a oculus go as iv looked into the tricks that you can hack and mod onto it
but its just a toy and really shouldnt waste £100 on it at this point

im hoping year next there will be something else

for now i have a smart phone which i could buy cheap cardboard cover type and turn that into a oculus go
no idea what to do about the controllers though
cashinpocket05/04/2020 16:09

yes it seems after all my binge watching youtube videos about which …yes it seems after all my binge watching youtube videos about which headset is best and all the tech stuff regrading how it allworks and what the differences areit just comes down to 6dof rift or a indexanything else is out there but the price point and older tech just donest seem worth it nowim trying to hold out maybe next year il buy one along side a new cheap mid range pc buildi am tempted though by a oculus go as iv looked into the tricks that you can hack and mod onto itbut its just a toy and really shouldnt waste £100 on it at this pointim hoping year next there will be something elsefor now i have a smart phone which i could buy cheap cardboard cover type and turn that into a oculus gono idea what to do about the controllers though


Google Cardboard VR is the bare minimum for a VR experience. I can't recommend it for those looking to get into VR, but it doesn't mean it's completely terrible. You have access to all Android VR games, which don't tend to be that good or complete (mostly tech demos, "experiences" and simple games). However, there are some good ones like Hardcode or Caaaaardboard! (You'll need to find a .apk for this).

One of its biggest problems is drift. Even if you're sitting still and looking straight ahead, your viewpoint will likely drift slowly over time. You might be watching a video and have to keep shifting around to match what you see on screen. Some apps/games let you recentre your viewpoint to fix this. Although, you have to keep doing it.

Also, it'll depend on the power and screen size of your phone. It's likely to get your phone hot regardless, but you might find you could get motion sick from games/apps with a lot of movement (like rollercoaster experiences).

However, plastic Cardboard headsets can be found for ridiculously cheap prices on eBay. Especially if you're willing to wait for one to come from China. They work and there's not going to be any difference between models besides build quality and maybe a built in magnet switch.

Also get a bluetooth controller if you're going this route. I don't think you'll be able to match the Go in it's features even via mods though.


The next step up would be Gear VR. It'll cost more, but not a lot more. You could probably get one upwards of £25/£30 now. You'll need a compatible Samsung phone as not all of their phones work with it.

GearVR has a library of games built for it too and I think you can get these for the Oculus Go as well. I've not looked into it, but it's a better experience apparently. Your phone plugs into it and it has built-in sensors and more controls.


Then the Go. It has 3DOF which is better than GearVR. Good lenses and it doesn't use your phone. Not compatible with Cardboard VR or Rift/Quest apps/games though. Great for media consumption, but not brilliant for games. Still going to be better than Cardboard VR and GearVR at everything though. If you can find this at a good price, go for it.


The best standalone headset is of course, the Oculus Quest. 6DOF, great resolution, a big library of good games (more with revive) and the ability to play SteamVR by turning it into a tethered, PC VR headset with a Link Cable. If you're interested in VR and don't have the money for a beastly gaming rig, then this is your best option. Actually, I'd still recommend it even with a good PC. The standalone factor makes it worth it.


Then you get into PC VR. If you have a VR capable PC and are not too interested in playing untethered Quest games, the Rift S is a great headset. It is better at playing PC games, but the Quest still does a great job.

Lastly, the Index. If you've got the money to spare, go for it. It's the best consumer-level headset out there right now and the knuckles controllers are awesome. However, it's really expensive compared to the other options.

Might also be worth looking into Windows Mixed Reality headsets like the Samsung Odyssey for lower price points.

PC VR's going to be more expensive if you don't already have a capable PC, but it's a better experience.
CMHammond05/04/2020 16:52

Google Cardboard VR is the bare minimum for a VR experience. I can't …Google Cardboard VR is the bare minimum for a VR experience. I can't recommend it for those looking to get into VR, but it doesn't mean it's completely terrible. You have access to all Android VR games, which don't tend to be that good or complete (mostly tech demos, "experiences" and simple games). However, there are some good ones like Hardcode or Caaaaardboard! (You'll need to find a .apk for this).One of its biggest problems is drift. Even if you're sitting still and looking straight ahead, your viewpoint will likely drift slowly over time. You might be watching a video and have to keep shifting around to match what you see on screen. Some apps/games let you recentre your viewpoint to fix this. Although, you have to keep doing it.Also, it'll depend on the power and screen size of your phone. It's likely to get your phone hot regardless, but you might find you could get motion sick from games/apps with a lot of movement (like rollercoaster experiences).However, plastic Cardboard headsets can be found for ridiculously cheap prices on eBay. Especially if you're willing to wait for one to come from China. They work and there's not going to be any difference between models besides build quality and maybe a built in magnet switch.Also get a bluetooth controller if you're going this route. I don't think you'll be able to match the Go in it's features even via mods though.The next step up would be Gear VR. It'll cost more, but not a lot more. You could probably get one upwards of £25/£30 now. You'll need a compatible Samsung phone as not all of their phones work with it.GearVR has a library of games built for it too and I think you can get these for the Oculus Go as well. I've not looked into it, but it's a better experience apparently. Your phone plugs into it and it has built-in sensors and more controls.Then the Go. It has 3DOF which is better than GearVR. Good lenses and it doesn't use your phone. Not compatible with Cardboard VR or Rift/Quest apps/games though. Great for media consumption, but not brilliant for games. Still going to be better than Cardboard VR and GearVR at everything though. If you can find this at a good price, go for it.The best standalone headset is of course, the Oculus Quest. 6DOF, great resolution, a big library of good games (more with revive) and the ability to play SteamVR by turning it into a tethered, PC VR headset with a Link Cable. If you're interested in VR and don't have the money for a beastly gaming rig, then this is your best option. Actually, I'd still recommend it even with a good PC. The standalone factor makes it worth it.Then you get into PC VR. If you have a VR capable PC and are not too interested in playing untethered Quest games, the Rift S is a great headset. It is better at playing PC games, but the Quest still does a great job.Lastly, the Index. If you've got the money to spare, go for it. It's the best consumer-level headset out there right now and the knuckles controllers are awesome. However, it's really expensive compared to the other options. Might also be worth looking into Windows Mixed Reality headsets like the Samsung Odyssey for lower price points.PC VR's going to be more expensive if you don't already have a capable PC, but it's a better experience.



You have single handed broken down everything in one post

I looked past the Gear VR becuase i heard somewhere that it only supports certain models of samsung phones
and the newest mid range a50 a70 a90 are not supported. There is a post saying that there wont be a furture
version on the Gear Vr and that samsung have not responded to claims that they have dropped support for it.
I can imanage that samsung will drop its library of games and the heatset wont be supported by oculus store
in the furture.

I personally thought that the plastic china type you metioned is the same thing, but your right the gear vr
does in fact offer extra buttons and most important of all sensors that track your movement.

Im not sure but i would love to have 3DOF on a headset that could make use of a samsung A50 or A70 as a screen
becuase there does look to be people who have made apps that stream the game from your pc to your phone.

So in other words you have a plastic headset with a good phone that has a nice screen then stream the content
from your pc to the phone , the headphone would then connect by bluetooth for tracking, then you could have
any controllers you want as basic handtracking (but only to sort of emulator them for weapons and such things)

hope that makes sense

I think the real question here is WHEN would it be possible to have a oculus rift S that is wireless as default, so you
dont need a cable and are completely able to move about free without wires, my guess is that i hope next version?

There was a video i saw that used i think the htc vive with a attached wireless adaptor that achieved this with
little to no lag over 5.4ghz using a router attached to a pc

btw the orginal rift is being sold off in the USA for $300 so thats about £180?.. thats close to the price of a GO i think?
cashinpocket05/04/2020 17:38

You have single handed broken down everything in one post I looked past …You have single handed broken down everything in one post I looked past the Gear VR becuase i heard somewhere that it only supports certain models of samsung phonesand the newest mid range a50 a70 a90 are not supported. There is a post saying that there wont be a furtureversion on the Gear Vr and that samsung have not responded to claims that they have dropped support for it.I can imanage that samsung will drop its library of games and the heatset wont be supported by oculus storein the furture.I personally thought that the plastic china type you metioned is the same thing, but your right the gear vrdoes in fact offer extra buttons and most important of all sensors that track your movement.Im not sure but i would love to have 3DOF on a headset that could make use of a samsung A50 or A70 as a screenbecuase there does look to be people who have made apps that stream the game from your pc to your phone.So in other words you have a plastic headset with a good phone that has a nice screen then stream the contentfrom your pc to the phone , the headphone would then connect by bluetooth for tracking, then you could haveany controllers you want as basic handtracking (but only to sort of emulator them for weapons and such things)hope that makes sense I think the real question here is WHEN would it be possible to have a oculus rift S that is wireless as default, so youdont need a cable and are completely able to move about free without wires, my guess is that i hope next version?There was a video i saw that used i think the htc vive with a attached wireless adaptor that achieved this withlittle to no lag over 5.4ghz using a router attached to a pcbtw the orginal rift is being sold off in the USA for $300 so thats about £180?.. thats close to the price of a GO i think?


The original rift and vive are still good I think, but you might want to do some research as there might be better options at that price point. YouTube has a lot of videos on this. Channels like ThrillSeeker and Eric For President have some good, informative VR videos in general.

Your main problem with streaming to your phone would likely be latency. Latency in VR is a big problem due to motion sickness. If it's really bad, it'll make even the most experienced VR users uncomfortable.

The Go has limited controller tracking (it detects motion as opposed to positional tracking) and full 3DOF, I don't think you'll be able to achieve that with a GC headset.

How would you track the headset in general when streaming games? You wouldn't be able to play games with controller tracking either. I've not looked into this. Hand tracking could be achieved with a LeapMotion device though.

As for GearVR, yeah the lack of support for anything but their flagship models is an issue. However, I've been looking to get one just for the quality of the headset and use of controller, you just wouldn't be able to use it to it's full extent.

And I think you may be right, moving VR away from tethered experiences is the next stage. Vive has the wireless adapter which seems to work well. You can also achieve a pseudo-wireless feel with a system of pulleys on your ceiling to keep the wires above you .
CMHammond05/04/2020 17:55

The original rift and vive are still good I think, but you might want to …The original rift and vive are still good I think, but you might want to do some research as there might be better options at that price point. YouTube has a lot of videos on this. Channels like ThrillSeeker and Eric For President have some good, informative VR videos in general.Your main problem with streaming to your phone would likely be latency. Latency in VR is a big problem due to motion sickness. If it's really bad, it'll make even the most experienced VR users uncomfortable. The Go has limited controller tracking (it detects motion as opposed to positional tracking) and full 3DOF, I don't think you'll be able to achieve that with a GC headset.How would you track the headset in general when streaming games? You wouldn't be able to play games with controller tracking either. I've not looked into this. Hand tracking could be achieved with a LeapMotion device though.As for GearVR, yeah the lack of support for anything but their flagship models is an issue. However, I've been looking to get one just for the quality of the headset and use of controller, you just wouldn't be able to use it to it's full extent.And I think you may be right, moving VR away from tethered experiences is the next stage. Vive has the wireless adapter which seems to work well. You can also achieve a pseudo-wireless feel with a system of pulleys on your ceiling to keep the wires above you .



yes iv seen the pulleys trick

GearVR seems to be left to dust, the thing is you fit any phone inside it with a bit of modding iv not seen anyone
do it yet but i would love to try that with my samsung which has a 6.4 inch screen and good rez

does the gearVR have a good controller then? i thought it was just a basic bluetooth controller
even a old wii-remote with attached can do xyz tracking i believe?

As far as streaming to the phone and latency, newer phones have 5ghz and thats what the vive uses so it should be
the same almost and for a DIY soultion its pretty good thats what im reading anyway not personally tried it

as for controllers all the index and vive and rift use bluetooth to link to the PC so that shouldnt be a issue

I think i need to find someone who has done new mobile with aleast 6inch screen and a good gearVR or clone
and has controllers with hand tracking, and see what their results are like
cashinpocket05/04/2020 18:23

yes iv seen the pulleys trick GearVR seems to be left to dust, the …yes iv seen the pulleys trick GearVR seems to be left to dust, the thing is you fit any phone inside it with a bit of modding iv not seen anyonedo it yet but i would love to try that with my samsung which has a 6.4 inch screen and good rezdoes the gearVR have a good controller then? i thought it was just a basic bluetooth controllereven a old wii-remote with attached can do xyz tracking i believe?As far as streaming to the phone and latency, newer phones have 5ghz and thats what the vive uses so it should bethe same almost and for a DIY soultion its pretty good thats what im reading anyway not personally tried itas for controllers all the index and vive and rift use bluetooth to link to the PC so that shouldnt be a issueI think i need to find someone who has done new mobile with aleast 6inch screen and a good gearVR or cloneand has controllers with hand tracking, and see what their results are like


The GearVR controller is just a bluetooth one, but it looks good for navigating in VR. Probably not games though.

I'm just not sure on how all these things would work together. Which controllers would you use for your VR headset? I still don't get how you plan to track the headset itself. If you use the phone's sensors, you'll get that drift issue I mentioned.
CMHammond05/04/2020 18:40

The GearVR controller is just a bluetooth one, but it looks good for …The GearVR controller is just a bluetooth one, but it looks good for navigating in VR. Probably not games though.I'm just not sure on how all these things would work together. Which controllers would you use for your VR headset? I still don't get how you plan to track the headset itself. If you use the phone's sensors, you'll get that drift issue I mentioned.



oh i would use the oculus controllers (Oculus Touch at £99 its a set of two)

then for the headset use a samsung phone in a plastic headset

but the headset your right wont track in 3DOF but you can still look around right?

thats when you reminded me of GearVR which you metioned has some sort of tracking,
so if thats the case is there not another plastic headset that we could use to do the same thing
with new samsung phones?

All of this would mean streaming the game across from a pc, maybe what im asking doesnt make sense?
cashinpocket05/04/2020 19:50

oh i would use the oculus controllers (Oculus Touch at £99 its a set of …oh i would use the oculus controllers (Oculus Touch at £99 its a set of two)then for the headset use a samsung phone in a plastic headsetbut the headset your right wont track in 3DOF but you can still look around right?thats when you reminded me of GearVR which you metioned has some sort of tracking,so if thats the case is there not another plastic headset that we could use to do the same thingwith new samsung phones?All of this would mean streaming the game across from a pc, maybe what im asking doesnt make sense?


The GearVR has internal sensors from what I’ve seen. In fact, apparently the controller does too. An accelerometer, gyroscope and magnetometer. This means it’s very similar to the Oculus Go, especially since they run the same software (if you have a compatible phone that is). The sensors are more accurate than the ones in your phone, so this might fix the drift issue.

If you’re looking for an alternative, there’s the Google Daydream. I think that’s a similar idea.

I suppose it comes down to software and the games/apps you’ll use. I’m just not sure how you’ll use the tracking of your phone, headset and/or controllers with your PC whilst also streaming from that PC to your phone. I’m interested to see if you can get it working though. Although, I would still advise you to consider the Quest. Your PC is still going to have to handle these games/apps.
CMHammond05/04/2020 20:08

The GearVR has internal sensors from what I’ve seen. In fact, apparently t …The GearVR has internal sensors from what I’ve seen. In fact, apparently the controller does too. An accelerometer, gyroscope and magnetometer. This means it’s very similar to the Oculus Go, especially since they run the same software (if you have a compatible phone that is). The sensors are more accurate than the ones in your phone, so this might fix the drift issue.If you’re looking for an alternative, there’s the Google Daydream. I think that’s a similar idea.I suppose it comes down to software and the games/apps you’ll use. I’m just not sure how you’ll use the tracking of your phone, headset and/or controllers with your PC whilst also streaming from that PC to your phone. I’m interested to see if you can get it working though. Although, I would still advise you to consider the Quest. Your PC is still going to have to handle these games/apps.



google daydream seems basic compared to the gearvr they might work the same way, however i like the look of the gearvr

this all comes down to price points

GO = 139 includes controller
quest =399 includes controllerx2

35 plastic headset + 99 oculus controllersx2 = 140 (need phone which is free if you already have one)

i think i need to research more about this topic but i think it can be done, at the very least a GO DIY you will
end up with the controllers which are worth alot more then what you get with a standard GO

at least if iv got all that correct?

im also trying to think of upgading at a later date so those oculus controller would come in real handy
cashinpocket05/04/2020 20:46

google daydream seems basic compared to the gearvr they might work the …google daydream seems basic compared to the gearvr they might work the same way, however i like the look of the gearvrthis all comes down to price pointsGO = 139 includes controller quest =399 includes controllerx235 plastic headset + 99 oculus controllersx2 = 140 (need phone which is free if you already have one)i think i need to research more about this topic but i think it can be done, at the very least a GO DIY you willend up with the controllers which are worth alot more then what you get with a standard GOat least if iv got all that correct?im also trying to think of upgading at a later date so those oculus controller would come in real handy


Well, I’m interested to see how it works out for you.
CMHammond05/04/2020 20:48

Well, I’m interested to see how it works out for you.



i would post it somewhere i dont make youtube vids but i could maybe find a forum there must be
somewhere for DIY VR people who mod things know any?
cashinpocket05/04/2020 20:51

i would post it somewhere i dont make youtube vids but i could maybe find …i would post it somewhere i dont make youtube vids but i could maybe find a forum there must besomewhere for DIY VR people who mod things know any?


I don’t, sorry. YouTube and Reddit are good resources for something like this. You can post it Reddit too, maybe in the form of an Imgur gallery or upload a video to YouTube/Vimeo or something.
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