This or 2600? Same price!
Any good for a spot of gaming? Fortnite and Roblox for the kids?
great cpu using it no problems runs everything fine (excited)
This or 2600? Same price!
Any good for a spot of gaming? Fortnite and Roblox for the kids?
great cpu using it no problems runs everything fine (excited)
what do you think better for gaming this or the Samsung SSD 860 QVO 1TB ? i bought the Adata hard drive just for my normal basic stuff laptop but was advised against that for gaming
Aye, but what do you do when all the storage in your PC is on some sort of SSD already? I'd upgrade my toaster with an SSD if I could.
Its been proven that SSD's don't make much of a different in a PS4. Probably loads games 10 seconds faster, not exactly worth the extra money if sticking it in a PS4. Its a different ball game in a PC or laptop though.
I’ve had this in my PS4 Pro for some time without problems. Have been playing COD and GTA V without any issues but be prepared to be underwhelmed a bit as the load times still leave a lot to be desired tbh - especially in comparison to a PC.
How does Patriot product stack up against Crucial, Adata, Kingston then? I am after reliability rather than speeds. Main use will be HDD for Xbox One X - large open world games. I was tempted by Adata of similar capacity at £20 less and now wonder whether than £20 more towards Patriot is worth it?:)
Any recommendations for something like this but 1440p ? (y)
Thanks, well i'm definitely seeing a big bottleneck on my vega 56 with plaentside 2, cpu useage on the 3570k at 4.5ghz is 90%+ and gpu useage around 20-40%.
Except the vulnerabilities issue is not really as minor as you think. According to the latest tech reports, with patch after patch to address them and together with the recommendation of disabling Hyper-threading, Intel CPUs are now losing anything between 15-50% of its original performance. The 9900K being the "fastest gaming processor" is the buzzword that Intel wanted throw around the medias, mainly for the sake of marketing to try to justify it's ridiculous high price. It's has been shown in multiple reviews that if you have a card anything short of a 2080ti, the 9700K/9900K simply doesn't given any benefit over the 8700K when all are overclocked, as the frame rate will be limited by the bottleneck of the GPU side. The fundamental problem with Intel is that they have gotten too comfortable with milking the consumer with the dip-feeding approach due to lack of competition over the years, and ultimately it is what lead to incompetence of having gotten the 10nm fabrication ready in time (which is also why the current 9700/9900K processors are still stuck on 14nm, and why it so power hungry and running so hot as a result), as well as all these vulnerability issues we are seeing right now. I am still on my trusty SandyBridge i5 2500K which I have overclocked to 4.6GHz for everyday uses since 2011, and Intel has offered nothing worthwhile to upgrade to for many years due to their insistence on the 3-5% improvement per gen together with holding progression back by forcing "quad-core" being the mainstream processor, while charging the moon for the 4-cores 8 threads or even the X platform. With the release of the Ryzen lines, AMD has pretty much blindside Intel. While they are still lacking in the IPC side (around 10% slower) and lower clock speed, but they are able to offer higher core and threads counts at a fraction of the price vs Intel, and literally with the exception of gaming performance, AMD pretty much utterly destroy Intel in performance in every price segment. The biggest shortcoming of AMD processor over the years has always been the weaker IPC performance and lower clock speed. It is true that at the moment the AMD Ryzen lines cannot match Intel's K offering in terms of max clock speed on overclocking (with the Ryzen+ topping out at around 4.1-4.3GHz average), but with the Ryzen+ (2000 series) IPC already matching the Intel 4th gen, with the move from 14nm to 7nm process it is not unrealistic to expecting the Ryzen 2 (3000 series) to hit the IPC level of Intel 6th gen, and to be able to hit average clock speed of around 4.3GHz out of the box with a likely 4.5-4.8GHz max overclock. So for around £300, the AMD Ryzen 2 8c/16t processor (essentailly 8c/16t CPU of with IPC of around Intel 4th/6th gen level) would be much more tempting than the Intel 9600K 6c/6t and 9700K 8c8t processors, especially when they not affected by the vulnerability issue and also more power-efficient and much cooler running. Also not to forget the fact that motherboard wise the Intel platform is always cost more than AMD as well (besides the cost of CPU itself), due to Intel charging more for their motherboard chipsets to their board partners than AMD does.
It really depends on what you're doing. For rendering and workstation work the Ryzen is a no-brainer. For gaming and not streaming, the 3570k may well outperform or at least match the Ryzen depending on the game. My old i7-2600 @ stock provides a more stable and smoother CS:GO experience compared with my Ryzen 5 1600 OC'd to 3.9GHz (both using a Radeon RX480).
Thought I'd give my 2 cents as I've seen a lot of people unsure about the compatibility of the AM4 platform. When AMD first announced the platform (back in 2016 I believe) one of the selling points was that the AM4 socket would support future processors for the foreseeable future (until at least 2020). For more info please check out the links below: https://www.eteknix.com/amd-am4-2020/ https://hothardware.com/news/amd-confirms-am4-socket-support-future-ryzen-processors-2020
Not just PS5, but most likely XBox Two (or whatever it is going to call) as well. Both consoles will most likely have a custom AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen 2 (3000 series) based APU, with possibly the difference between the amount of GPU grunt depending on Sony's and MS's cost of building budget for their machine.
Good company,only negative i can think of is they do not tend to honour any pricing errors.Support was always great for me.
Really they seem to be one of the better ones. I've had no issues but Ive never had to return to them.
Yep, it’s a hard power limit and thermal issue. Cannot believe ASUS are still selling them to unsuspecting customers - they’ll seem to work largely fine assuming you don’t load it too hard but paying for performance you can never fully extract is just wrong.
This is also correct.
I bought this with next day delivery, it arrived on time, the monitor is beautiful! I can't fault it. Very smooth and clear. The viewing angles are what you'd expect for a TN but for the price you can't knock it!
Almost bought this before realising its a TN panel. I need IPS as monitor is at computer desk and I need the viewing angles to watch from the couch. Still a good buy. Nice find OP
Either, depends on preference and how close you are to the screen, I like more PPI and i sit close so id go with 24 but its up to you
Depends on desk space really, I went for the 24" when it was this price with laptop direct a few weeks back. Been really happy with it, great monitor. I think 27 would be just that bit too big width wise.
27" IMO. More the fact you have to deal with some scaling issues with 24".
i took a punt for my laptop it currently takes alot longer to boot up than i would like it to and to load stuff and its not a bad spec its mainly the hard drive even though partitioned when its idle its constantly jumping to max disk usage, ill keep the mechanical drive as a backup incase the ssd fails or data fails (i5 dual, 8gb ram, 1gb nvidia) i'll wait for a more premium drive like a samsung for my gaming laptop however as i've heard the adatas are prone to overheating
I'd argue that for this amount of SSD storage at this price you are buying if you have a lot of large files you move around frequently, which is where the speed bonus would help. as previously mentioned this drive would be good for storing games, or another example would be a page/swap drive, where if the data is lost it wouldn't really matter. you wouldn't expect to keep data on this drive as any sensible person would backup to infrequently accessed, slower, more TB/£ HDDs
Thanks, will wait for one of the premium drives to drop further. Thanks
Probably not. Having read that review someone posted of the 480GB model, the write speeds go through the floor once you reach about 80% capacity (iirc)
Cheaper than a comparable GTX 1660 by around £10 so around the right money for this. One of the better cards though so a good deal. Navi details should be with us on June 10.. Expect further price drops around then across the board.
I kinda meant it was pretty slow compared to the usual £16.95 cheap drives too? https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/integral-120gb-p-series-5-sata-iii-ssd-drive-560mbs-1695-delivered-at-mymemory-3227827 - Read up to 560MB/s, - Write up to 540MB/s 80K IOPS (user test)
Against the more expensive drives, sort of, but it's still plenty fast, don't forget SSDs really excel at seek times, especially against the old school mechanical drives, for this money its a great first boot drive or as a secondary data drive 8)
"350MB/s Read, 280MB/s Write" (confused) That's really slow isn't it?
It wasn't that long ago that it was £1/1GB, great time to buy an SSD 8)
I bought this version of the Gigabyte motherboard: https://www.cclonline.com/product/245858/GA-A320M-S2H/Motherboards/Gigabyte-Ultra-Durable-GA-A320M-S2H-AMD-AM4-A320-Motherboard-mATX-RAID-Gigabit-LAN-Integrated-Graphics-/MBD2321/ It's virtually the same for a fiver more, but when I collected it from CCL it was actually the V2 variant which has a B350 chipset which allows for CPU overclocking unlike the A320. Not sure if it was just a mistake on CCL's account (they don't even appear to sell the V2) but it's worth a try if anyone is considering this motherboard. (y) PS: it takes NVMe SSDs too.
@Nexy thanks for the comprehensive helpful answer. I haven’t kept up on this stuff so this was really useful.
vvvvvvv Depends entirely on what you want to do with it. @Tacavas gave you a perfectly good answer, but you might not need a £90 motherboard. If you are leaving it at stock speeds (not seriously overclocking it) and don't need anything fancy, a £40 A320M-based motherboard like the Gigabyte A320M-H might be a reasonable choice and free up £50 extra to spend on the thing you need to focus on. If you want a future-proof motherboard, wait a month or so to see what the requirements for the Zen 2 boards look like. The 2200g has onboard graphics, whereas the 1200 doesn't, and when you add the cheapest graphics card the price difference disappears. If you are gaming on a tight but not ultra-low budget, or need dedicated graphics for a specific reason (or already have a graphics card that'll do), the Ryzen 3 1200 is a bargain. If you aren't, then bear in mind that AMD's chips don't have integrated graphics as standard, unlike Intel. If you want integrated the Ryzen 3 2200g chip (again from CCL) as I mentioned in an earlier post, might be a better fit for you. Also AMD integrated graphics are vastly better than Intel. NVMe is becoming more and more common, but unless you need ridiculously fast storage then M.2 SATA or old-school SATA SSDs generally offer more GB per £. I've got NVMe on my main gaming machine (because I intend using it with large shader caches on CEMU) and in my laptop (because it improves hibernation speeds) but all my other rigs just use SATA SSDs. To confirm, you know the differences between the terms M.2, M.2 SATA, mSATA, and NVMe? (Edit: When I first tried to post this, I accidentally called M.2 SATA "mSATA", which it obviously isn't, and the post got stuck in moderation anyway. Updated.)
MSI B450 TOMAHAWK AMD Socket AM4 Motherboard is popular these days
What's a good motherboard for this? And the best place to buy it? Is NVMe common on Motherboards these days?
It had to be a Sumsung 970 Evo's as they were client builds. I already bought these from CCL as I couldn't find cheaper elsewhere.
https://m.cclonline.com/product/247975/SSDPEKKW256G801/Solid-State-Drives-SSDs-/Intel-SSD-760p-Series-256GB-M-2-2280-PCIe-Gen3-x4-NVMe-Internal-Solid-State-Drive/SSD0736/ how about this?
500Gb Plus version available at Overclockers for £98.99 plus postage. here I got it myself and it's a great drive. Certainly a step up from my ageing/failing 830.
SMSM420 wrote - Why aren't you using the new 970 Evo plus? It's a. Faster nvme drive and cheaper by a few quid.. Have to agree with this comment. I've just put a 'budget' system together for a friend using the plus version. I am absolutely astonished at the speed of the PC. Windows 10 installed from a USB 3.0 flash drive in less than ten minutes and boots up in under 15 seconds from pressing the power button. My twelve month old system which has the earlier version nvme takes twice as long to boot plus the card cost me a few quid more but was half the capacity! The Samsung EVO plus is in a class of its own at the moment.
Why aren't you using the new 970 Evo plus? It's a. Faster nvme drive and cheaper by a few quid..
Just some helpful information for anyone thinking of buying this. If you're transfering big files regularly look at something different. This will be fine for games, OS or programs but the speed will quickly drop off once you write large quantities of data.
Nice little SSD in short bursts but overheats really quick when being heavily written to leaving you with throttled performance. Great for a boot device and light to medium use.
My only complaint would be the lack of USB-C bit it's a great case for the price.
Includes 4 fans too and same price at Amazon (y)
Very nice looking case and its Corsair, very good price!
I bought these recently on eBay for £80 (but 3200Mhz version) and that was a bargain. These are good for those those who have a mini ITX build and a CPU cooler like the Noctua NH D-14 (Yeah mine is from my previous build 7 years ago). Still keeps my i9-9900K cool during 5.0 ghz load. For anyone wanting RAM, i heard 3200Mhz was the sweet spot for price vs performance. Can i tell the real world difference? doubt it....
Will these work nicely with my 8gb Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory?
I had to pay £150 for this back in June last year. Bit miffed but I couldn't really wait 11 months to buy it.
1.35v for 2400Mhz? Should be 1.2v.
Same rip. It’s painful seeing the price drop so far just 3 months after you purchased some. Happens with so many components. My £1000 gaming pc is now worth £700-£800. Guess I’ll make up for the loss of money by purchasing other items on sale, saving money, and training my patience threshold
Yeah you really have to need high endurance to take a Pro over an Evo. If you need a high endurance drive though this is a good deal. Edit: looks like the Evo is better at that too!
The newer 970 Evo 500Gb can be had for £105.96, which is a better buy for most people, as it offers slightly faster write speeds and around 50% improvement in IOPS https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-MZ-V7S500BW-Solid-State-Drive/dp/B07MFBLN7K/ref=sr_1_1?crid=105061DO5KTVW&keywords=samsung%2B970%2Bevo&qid=1557753601&s=gateway&sprefix=samsung%2B970%2Caps%2C140&sr=8-1&th=1
Good price for an MLC drive.
Heat thanks. What are ccl like if you have a problem? Limited myself to the likes of Amazon at the moment for the no quibble returns.
Added, thanks :)
Really struggling to find a 4k monitor which says it supports HDCP 2.2 so you can do 4k netflix etc from PS4 pro :/
Nice kit! If you are on a smaller budget, or do not need the extra bells and whistles of the Acer, for £70 less, you can get a similar 28" 4K one here still ;) https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/electriq-28-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-1ms-freesync-gaming-monitor-2-year-warranty-15997-at-laptops-direct-3226132
Right, not recommended. The best are Sandisk Extremes. :)
U1 isn’t good for 4K recording on GoPro is it ?
Same here, ordered cancelled - wish I had stuck with BT shop deal ;(
OMG, this sucks... sorry guys/girls ;(
Fume!! Order cancelled. :( Oh well, guess I saved a bit money, then.
Depends on the drive enclosure and whether it has those little silvery seals. Some I've completely mangled
Wd is a 3 year warranty on my link, It's not hard to take them out and re-assemble them without any visible evidence. just don't throw the enclosure away. Also 8TB is available for the same price as this poor deal
Seagate, Toshiba, Western Digital, etc... They all make 6tb+ hard drives that are 7200rpm. It's easy enough to Google 6tb+ 7200rpm hard drive and have a webpage full of results. (lol)
Usually big capacity like this run on 5400 rpm. Do you know one that runs 7200?
Shame it's a 5400rpm drive.
You might want to amend the price its now £70.99, every little helps and dont forget top cash.
Thanks the photo on CCL just shows 4 white ports
Back of port
That’s what I did.
From the photos I cant see the WAN port, as its usually highlighted yellow for ORBI, do you simply connect it to port one?