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Celeron G1620 (Ivy Bridge) £25.98 delivered at Amazon.
Celeron G1620 (Ivy Bridge) £25.98 delivered at  Amazon.

Celeron G1620 (Ivy Bridge) £25.98 delivered at Amazon.

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It may be the previous generation (Ivy Bridge) to the current Haswell but its a good CPU for this price.
Last cheap deal on this on HUKD it was £26.01 so a MASSIVE saving now of 3p. ;-)

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Decent price. No doubt the knee-jerk Celeron bashers will be out in force just because of the name, but this CPU is absolutely fine for general use. I have a G1610 in my desktop PC and it does all I want. I've even done some video re-encoding using the integrated graphics - not lightning fast but bearable.

Good for most things apart from gaming.... amazing for the price

Very good cpu would still be ok for gaming at that price add a gtx 750ti and you have a very energy efficient set up.

keepitonthelow

Very good cpu would still be ok for gaming at that price add a gtx 750ti … Very good cpu would still be ok for gaming at that price add a gtx 750ti and you have a very energy efficient set up.



Surely the CPU would bottleneck a 750ti?

You're probably better off with a gtx650

What's the cheapest mobo for one of these?? Any good for an Openelec build?

Cheap mobo: amazon.co.uk/ASR…155

The above mobo does not have any DVI/HDMI output, just add a cheap power efficient video card.

This MSI board has a DVI output for a few quid more: amazon.co.uk/MSI…155

The important thing to remember is that this is a dual core - not like the early core celerons, that were single core. So for easy computing tasks this is perfectly adequate.

Great for a general use PC, hot

K1LLER HORNET

Surely the CPU would bottleneck a 750ti?


Unlikely, it's not like the 750ti is trying to be any better than 1080p gaming. Which a C2D can still do with a decent graphics card.

keepitonthelow

Very good cpu would still be ok for gaming at that price add a gtx 750ti … Very good cpu would still be ok for gaming at that price add a gtx 750ti and you have a very energy efficient set up.



I doubt anyone buying a £25 CPU will be willing to blow £100+ on a graphics card, this CPU is perfectly for anyone wanting to build a cheap HTPC,NAS or just wants cheap components to build their first PC before dropping big money on high-end expensive components.

The Celeron G1820 is a much better deal. Its 5-10% faster as a cpu and has a better integrated gpu, which can also be overclocked to 1500mhz, 50% overclock to give baseline respectable gpu performance (not as good as AMD APU's though). Also the socket 1155 motherboards are more likely to have usb3.0 and sata 6gb/s even cheap models. You are also future proofing more as you can fit a much more powerful cpu later if desired. The celeron's are perfectly competent for gaming systems when paired with a decent gpu. There is also a small power consumption advantage, small being the key word though.

It's worth the extra fiver.

youtube.com/wat…e5A
Edited by: "bonzobanana" 20th Jun 2014

keepitonthelow

Very good cpu would still be ok for gaming at that price add a gtx 750ti … Very good cpu would still be ok for gaming at that price add a gtx 750ti and you have a very energy efficient set up.



It's got a 55 watt TDP, hardly "energy efficient" considering it's performance.
There's plenty of 35 and 45 watt CPUs that would sodomize this heap of junk.

Cost efficient, sure, energy efficient you are having a giraffe.
Edited by: "robo989" 20th Jun 2014

Matty1255

I doubt anyone buying a £25 CPU will be willing to blow £100+ on a g … I doubt anyone buying a £25 CPU will be willing to blow £100+ on a graphics card, this CPU is perfectly for anyone wanting to build a cheap HTPC,NAS or just wants cheap components to build their first PC before dropping big money on high-end expensive components.



Pointless for HTPC, at 55 watt that's postively burning for HTPC use, get an old i3/i5/i7 "T" CPU on the cheap.
It's also useless for XBMC as the onboard GPU isn't powerful enough for onboard deinterlacing so you can forget about adding a tv card etc.
Can't do 23.976fps in linux for that matter (which is what you'd use if running it as a HTPC)
Edited by: "robo989" 20th Jun 2014

Sir_Didymus

What's the cheapest mobo for one of these?? Any good for an Openelec … What's the cheapest mobo for one of these?? Any good for an Openelec build?



OpenELEC is built on linux, see above post

This is actually comparable to a Pentium G2030 which is almost double the price in most places. Great for a basic server or openelec/plex media center.

For all the plex server fans out there, cpubenchmark rates this at 2684 so this CPU should be capable of a single 1080p stream (or 2 simultaneous 720p streams if their bitrates are not too high) cpubenchmark.net/cpu…GHz

But to those recommending this for gaming... please stop. This will bottleneck even a GTX 750. In the long-run you'll be better off with an i3 for that.

Having said that, voting hot as it's a great CPU for what it's meant for.
Edited by: "nyasham" 20th Jun 2014

nyasham

But to those recommending this for gaming... please stop



I don't think anyone is 'recommending' it for gaming but it will certainly suffice for most gaming needs in a budget build. I have a G530 (with an AMD 6850 GPU) in my machine, and even though my CPU isn't even as good as this I really only feel a lack of grunt in a couple of titles. Project Cars is pretty unplayable and 64 player Battlefield feels like it could be a little better (even though it's still very playable).

To suggest that these CPUs are not suitable for a budget gaming machine (at 1080p with a dedicated GPU) is nonsense.

Sure I wouldn't pair them with any high-end GPU because that would be madness, but don't underestimate how good a gaming machine you can build on the cheap.

robo989

Pointless for HTPC, at 55 watt that's postively burning for HTPC use, get … Pointless for HTPC, at 55 watt that's postively burning for HTPC use, get an old i3/i5/i7 "T" CPU on the cheap.It's also useless for XBMC as the onboard GPU isn't powerful enough for onboard deinterlacing so you can forget about adding a tv card etc.Can't do 23.976fps in linux for that matter (which is what you'd use if running it as a HTPC)



23.976fps, approximately? But seriously, would you notice a difference against 24fps? ;-)

robo989

Pointless for HTPC, at 55 watt that's postively burning for HTPC use, get … Pointless for HTPC, at 55 watt that's postively burning for HTPC use, get an old i3/i5/i7 "T" CPU on the cheap.It's also useless for XBMC as the onboard GPU isn't powerful enough for onboard deinterlacing so you can forget about adding a tv card etc.Can't do 23.976fps in linux for that matter (which is what you'd use if running it as a HTPC)



Thanks. Just wanted to know if it was powerful enough on it's own to handle HD video streams. I have an old HD4670 lying around somewhere gathering dust and pretty much every other component needed salvaged from old PC's to build a small unit. I don't want to spend too much either since XBMC on all these Android boxes perform pretty good these days like the Minix Neo X7/X8, Ouya and even that new Amazon Fire TV box which can be imported. If I could get a CPU and mobo for under £50 I could save some money but if it's not upto the task I think I'll just get myself a Minix or something similar. I have a Raspberry Pi OC'ed and set to Turbo running off USB 3.0 and even though playback is great it really is sluggish in the U.I and navigating the menus.

robo989

Pointless for HTPC, at 55 watt that's postively burning for HTPC use, get … Pointless for HTPC, at 55 watt that's postively burning for HTPC use, get an old i3/i5/i7 "T" CPU on the cheap.It's also useless for XBMC as the onboard GPU isn't powerful enough for onboard deinterlacing so you can forget about adding a tv card etc.Can't do 23.976fps in linux for that matter (which is what you'd use if running it as a HTPC)




The "T" series is complete con. Their TDP is lower because they the maximum clock is slower. Their idle usage is exactly the same as the non cheaper T chip, but the non T chip can clock higher and so gets more work done in same amount of time. The non T version will therefore spend more time in an idle state than the T version.
Energy efficiency is a useless comparison, as it does not take into account the work a CPU can do. TDP is only useful to know how much cooling you will need if the processor is running at 100%.Unless you physically cannot dissipate the extra heat go for the non-T chip.

ashleypride

The "T" series is complete con. Their TDP is lower because they the … The "T" series is complete con. Their TDP is lower because they the maximum clock is slower. Their idle usage is exactly the same as the non cheaper T chip, but the non T chip can clock higher and so gets more work done in same amount of time. The non T version will therefore spend more time in an idle state than the T version. Energy efficiency is a useless comparison, as it does not take into account the work a CPU can do. TDP is only useful to know how much cooling you will need if the processor is running at 100%.Unless you physically cannot dissipate the extra heat go for the non-T chip.



I think you need to look up the turbo frequency chart and calculate some percentage efficiency values.
You'll find you're wrong.
Yes the "T" versions are slower but we're talking approximately 25% slower for 50% less power draw roughly.

Sir_Didymus

Thanks. Just wanted to know if it was powerful enough on it's own to … Thanks. Just wanted to know if it was powerful enough on it's own to handle HD video streams. I have an old HD4670 lying around somewhere gathering dust and pretty much every other component needed salvaged from old PC's to build a small unit. I don't want to spend too much either since XBMC on all these Android boxes perform pretty good these days like the Minix Neo X7/X8, Ouya and even that new Amazon Fire TV box which can be imported. If I could get a CPU and mobo for under £50 I could save some money but if it's not upto the task I think I'll just get myself a Minix or something similar. I have a Raspberry Pi OC'ed and set to Turbo running off USB 3.0 and even though playback is great it really is sluggish in the U.I and navigating the menus.



It's not worth the trouble to be honest.
You'd be better served in all respects, aesthetics, simplicity, hassle, ease of use by just getting a bottom of the range NUC than getting this CPU and motherboard and building something around it.

I'm really not sure what the purpose of this CPU is, sure it's cheap but it's not going to build an efficient HTPC and isn't much use as a desktop cheap computer part. Both areas are served by 1. Cheapo refurbs 2. NUCs

The only possible area of value would be for OEMs who have access to cheapo in house designed motherboards built with god awful cases and PSUs that aren't even sold on the open market etc.

barbiegirl

23.976fps, approximately? But seriously, would you notice a difference … 23.976fps, approximately? But seriously, would you notice a difference against 24fps? ;-)



Yes because when you play 23.976fps film material (95%+ of all bluray movies) at 24fps you will see a frame skip every few minutes.

Good price! If your concerned about energy undervolt it, i have a xeon i can safely undervolt by 0.085v makes a huge difference to power draw and heat output, along with memory undervolting, this is an excellent cpu for everything except things that require the power, ie virtually nothing must users use their pc's for, maybe except gaming, this will pretty much blow away any amd budget offering apart from gpu performance

Celeron - good for nothing. Intels downfall

K1LLER HORNET

Surely the CPU would bottleneck a 750ti?



I think most games are GPU-bottlenecked, I tend to buy the cheapest CPU offering the features I'd like (so something like the slowest quad-core i5) and spend the extra on graphics instead of something offering a negligible boost - by this I mean most CPUs are all the same silicon and similar feature-sets just clockspeed, cache and Boost frequency differs whereas GPUs are physically different across the range.

Is this better than an Opteron 146?

robo989

It's got a 55 watt TDP, hardly "energy efficient" considering it's … It's got a 55 watt TDP, hardly "energy efficient" considering it's performance.There's plenty of 35 and 45 watt CPUs that would sodomize this heap of junk.Cost efficient, sure, energy efficient you are having a giraffe.



If you look at the figures, it never actually gets anywhere near that TDP - or do you think a 55W TDP processor is constantly consuming 55W? It's max TDP anyway. Here's just one example:

xbitlabs.com/art…tml

How exactly do you think they build these chips? Logically speaking, it'll be very similar silicon to anything else from the same generation so if it's similar silicon but clocked faster, which is going to consume more powerful at full load - not the Celeron. They are energy and cost-efficient chips but whether it's right for you is another matter, it sounds like you have some kind of personal vendetta against these...

foes4you

Celeron - good for nothing. Intels downfall



I think you're getting mixed up between Celerons and War again.

robo989

It's got a 55 watt TDP, hardly "energy efficient" considering it's … It's got a 55 watt TDP, hardly "energy efficient" considering it's performance.There's plenty of 35 and 45 watt CPUs that would sodomize this heap of junk.Cost efficient, sure, energy efficient you are having a giraffe.



I have a i5 4440 in my HTPC, it has a max TDP of 84W it is inaudible unless you are a foot away TDP doesn't really matter if you spend the cash on a decent CPU cooler (I use Noctua NH-L9i) spending the extra on cooling is usually well worth it especially in the case of a HTPC.
Edited by: "Matty1255" 21st Jun 2014

Like a Intel Core i5-4460T 1.9GHz (Haswell) Socket 1150?

plewis00

I think most games are GPU-bottlenecked, I tend to buy the cheapest CPU … I think most games are GPU-bottlenecked, I tend to buy the cheapest CPU offering the features I'd like (so something like the slowest quad-core i5) and spend the extra on graphics instead of something offering a negligible boost - by this I mean most CPUs are all the same silicon and similar feature-sets just clockspeed, cache and Boost frequency differs whereas GPUs are physically different across the range.

Matty1255

I have a i5 4440 in my HTPC, it has a max TDP of 84W it is inaudible … I have a i5 4440 in my HTPC, it has a max TDP of 84W it is inaudible unless you are a foot away TDP doesn't really matter if you spend the cash on a decent CPU cooler (I use Noctua NH-L9i) spending the extra on cooling is usually well worth it especially in the case of a HTPC.



I'm talking about energy consumption. You can get 140watt processors cooled down by a basic noctua L9i at low RPM with good ventilation too.
Most people leave HTPCs on 24/7 so they can set up recording timers and stream tv to the rest of the house in other rooms for example, chopping off 40-50w is quite a saving.

On the cooling front, if you were to spend a bit, well a lot on something like a streacom case they can cool processors up to about 65w reliably at constant full load with no fans whatsoever

plewis00

If you look at the figures, it never actually gets anywhere near that TDP … If you look at the figures, it never actually gets anywhere near that TDP - or do you think a 55W TDP processor is constantly consuming 55W? It's max TDP anyway. Here's just one example:http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/trinity-vs-ivy-bridge_12.html#sect0How exactly do you think they build these chips? Logically speaking, it'll be very similar silicon to anything else from the same generation so if it's similar silicon but clocked faster, which is going to consume more powerful at full load - not the Celeron. They are energy and cost-efficient chips but whether it's right for you is another matter, it sounds like you have some kind of personal vendetta against these...



The other processors used aren't low power versions.
Just taling about performance/power ratio at load, obviously idle they all use hardly anything.
Turbo boost/AMD's equivalent isn't that intelligent, it detects a load and will go to full speed almost straight away for things like watching video (even if GPU assisted), same for streaming to other boxes.

It's the whole package, you get a T CPU, low profile bluray drive, efficient motherboard and you end up with an appliance level power useage or let things go and you end up with a pc in your living room.

Something like this CPU is the start of a bad set of variables.

robo989

The other processors used aren't low power versions.Just taling about … The other processors used aren't low power versions.Just taling about performance/power ratio at load, obviously idle they all use hardly anything.Turbo boost/AMD's equivalent isn't that intelligent, it detects a load and will go to full speed almost straight away for things like watching video (even if GPU assisted), same for streaming to other boxes.It's the whole package, you get a T CPU, low profile bluray drive, efficient motherboard and you end up with an appliance level power useage or let things go and you end up with a pc in your living room.Something like this CPU is the start of a bad set of variables.



Celerons don't Turbo Boost but even if they are running at maximum speed, if they're unloaded it won't make any difference at all - a processor running Prime95 at 3.0Ghz will be consuming a lot more phsyical power than the same CPU at the same speed when browsing the web.

Besides any smart PC builder will also undervolt (and possibly underclock) their processor so that it meets their target demand adequately. I'm sure if money is no object they then will take your approach of hand-picked T-series processors, fanless coolers, low-voltage RAM and a hand-picked mainboard. The only times you'll need this kind of power are with DVR type applications and some people's media PCs are just for playing and consuming media on.

plewis00

Celerons don't Turbo Boost but even if they are running at maximum speed, … Celerons don't Turbo Boost but even if they are running at maximum speed, if they're unloaded it won't make any difference at all - a processor running Prime95 at 3.0Ghz will be consuming a lot more phsyical power than the same CPU at the same speed when browsing the web.Besides any smart PC builder will also undervolt (and possibly underclock) their processor so that it meets their target demand adequately. I'm sure if money is no object they then will take your approach of hand-picked T-series processors, fanless coolers, low-voltage RAM and a hand-picked mainboard. The only times you'll need this kind of power are with DVR type applications and some people's media PCs are just for playing and consuming media on.



Good comments, I can't argue back at those and have learnt something.
Also true about the DVR function, I suppose the thing is that an NUC would cover all the others things (excluding tv/deinterlacing/dvr) which this would also not cover.
Edited by: "robo989" 21st Jun 2014

robo989

Good comments, I can't argue back at those and have learnt something.Also … Good comments, I can't argue back at those and have learnt something.Also true about the DVR function, I suppose the thing is that an NUC would cover all the others things (excluding tv/deinterlacing/dvr) which this would also not cover.



Agreed - FYI, I only use mine for media consumption and use a Celeron E3200 (Core 2 era) that runs at undervolted at 1.0V and 1.8Ghz, that machine cost me £150 5 years ago including a Silverstone case and has been solid ever since. It's had an SSD and 3TB disks fitted to it since then but it serves its purpose as my media hub nicely.

I think you could pair the NUC with a USB DVR box though, even if a bit more of a messy solution.

Of course, the Celeron is also the perfect start point for people who want to build cheap but with lots of upwards flexibility and you don't get any more flexible than starting at the lowest rung!

robo989

I think you need to look up the turbo frequency chart and calculate some … I think you need to look up the turbo frequency chart and calculate some percentage efficiency values.You'll find you're wrong.Yes the "T" versions are slower but we're talking approximately 25% slower for 50% less power draw roughly.



I very much doubt you'll see anything like that in reality. After comparing my HTPCs I3 2100T cpu vs a standard I3 2100, the conclusion was there is very little in it.Overclocking, them both showed little difference either, so am not convinced the binning is higher in the T.
Perhaps, things have changed with more recent chips, but to me the only differences between T and non T, were undervolting, and underclocked. Paying more for less.

That aside, looking at TDP is still not very useful for anything over than knowing the maximum cooling requirement.

Matty1255

I doubt anyone buying a £25 CPU will be willing to blow £100+ on a g … I doubt anyone buying a £25 CPU will be willing to blow £100+ on a graphics card, this CPU is perfectly for anyone wanting to build a cheap HTPC,NAS or just wants cheap components to build their first PC before dropping big money on high-end expensive components.



I beg to differ

to get this to consume 55w you'd need to be running two copies of prime95 and furmark . If this is your normall mode of operation then this CPU is not for you. I use a G530 an 4670 for a really nice quiet HTPC. So this CPU should be good enough for that.
Just dont try and run Handbrake (Bluray conversion) as it will take 3 times as long as even a low powered I5.
Should be good for Skyrim with a decent gfx card.
TDP doesnt mean power consumed.

I doubt anyone buying a £25 CPU will be willing to blow £100+ on a g … I doubt anyone buying a £25 CPU will be willing to blow £100+ on a graphics card


Not heard of bitcoin miners ? £25 cpu + £2000+ of GPus (4x or 6x card in one system)
Edited by: "GwanGy" 3rd Jul 2014

Knackered my i5 2500k due to sheer stupidity changing cases (forgot to put in brass standoffs hence shorted cpu.....idiotic) so got this solely to see if its only the cpu which was knackered......how long a warranty do intel give ? My fault, but....nothing ventured etc
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