Cheap flat Lightning Cables That Work £1 @ Poundland
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Cheap flat Lightning Cables That Work £1 @ Poundland

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I'm constantly irritated by the price Apple charge for iPhone and iPad accessories, so from time to time I try cheaper alternatives. Most of the pound shop lightning cables I've tried have been useless, but recently I found these pastel coloured items in Poundland that seem to be work just fine. I've bought 3 or 4 and have used them in various houses and cars, with USB socket outlets, PCs and with power adaptors with no failures.
I've tried a few of the colours and they all seem to work equally well, none prompting that irritating message from Uncle Apple. The white coloured cables also available from pound shops I've found to entirely unreliable and should be avoided.
I bought them from Corby, Northants, but I think I've seen them elsewhere, so this is probably a national deal.
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You forgot to add "for all of five minutes".
Can you compare the speeds of the charge? Most of the cheaper ones seem to charge much slower.
BigOrkWaaagh

You forgot to add "for all of five minutes".


Not really. When I first tried these cables I was circumspect as you are, but I've been using them since autumn last year and have (I think) 4 of them with various iPhones and iPads; so far none has failed or produced the irritating error message.
If you are not comfortable with this recommendation by all means go on paying Apple £15 for each piece of wire.
Alan
kristoff1875

Can you compare the speeds of the charge? Most of the cheaper ones seem … Can you compare the speeds of the charge? Most of the cheaper ones seem to charge much slower.


The charging rate seems to be exactly the same as the original lightening cables (I think we still have one that works from the various iPhones and iPads we have).
Heat from me.

Was looking for a an extra charger for daughters iphone. Apple wanted £15 for cable and £15 for transformer/plug.

Absolutely scandalous what they charge. Being an android man im used to using any old micro usb in any usb port.
By and large a cable is a cable is a cable. Most of it is just spin by makers. Look it up.
callum84

Heat from me.Was looking for a an extra charger for daughters iphone. … Heat from me.Was looking for a an extra charger for daughters iphone. Apple wanted £15 for cable and £15 for transformer/plug.Absolutely scandalous what they charge. Being an android man im used to using any old micro usb in any usb port.


That is my point exactly, my son and I were lured into the iPod, iPad, iPhone trap a few years ago, and since have been regularly fleeced by the company for cables, Apple TV &c when Android/Windows 10 items would have been a fraction of the cost (or we would have used some old cable from my spares box). Apple products work quite well, but I don't think I'd buy another because I don't like being ripped off.
Alan
Edited by: "othen" 20th Feb 2016
jongerry

By and large a cable is a cable is a cable. Most of it is just spin by … By and large a cable is a cable is a cable. Most of it is just spin by makers. Look it up.


I wish that was the case with Apple products (but it is not). The company has obviously gone out of its way to make what should be simple products (like cables) difficult to replicate in order to keep the cost high. I find that most irritating, which is why I was so pleased to find that these cables work well.
The cheap ones definitely charge slower as they don't have the official chip in to step up the current - they default to the slowest charge.

The official cables are expensive but this is not an 'Apple thing' - if you buy even a micro USB cable from any other phone store it will cost £10-£15 for a half decent one. Same with USB C.

You can buy official Lightning cables from Cex for £3.50 and in my experience they are the real deal. Personally I'd rather go down this route as I had an iPad battery swell up while I was using a cheap Lightning cable and it's made me paranoid ever since. For peace of mind I now just pay the difference - which in this case would be £2.50!

All the pound shop ones do now work though, as the factories churning them out seem to have sorted out this early issue.
othen

I wish that was the case with Apple products (but it is not). The company … I wish that was the case with Apple products (but it is not). The company has obviously gone out of its way to make what should be simple products (like cables) difficult to replicate in order to keep the cost high. I find that most irritating, which is why I was so pleased to find that these cables work well.



In fairness this has always been the case with manufacturers - the official cables are never cheap - remember Pop Ports on Nokia phones? I remember spending £20 on an official USB cable for my N70 after the cat chewed it, so I think your dislike of Apple's approach is somewhat presumptive. Samsung charge £10 for an official micro USB cable - these have no chips in or anything, and you can be damn sure that if it stopped working you wouldn't just be able to easily go into a shop and swap it. I've walked into the Apple Store with very "used" cables that have stopped working and they have *always* exchanged them, without checking any kind of receipt. This is all factored into the cost.

When USB C really comes to the fore manufactures will charge the same as Apple because they are more complex cables. At the moment it is easy to get a cheap micro USB cable that works great, simply because it has no lockout/power regulation chips and they have been around for years, on millions and millions of different devices.


misterleoni

In fairness this has always been the case with manufacturers - the … In fairness this has always been the case with manufacturers - the official cables are never cheap - remember Pop Ports on Nokia phones? I remember spending £20 on an official USB cable for my N70 after the cat chewed it, so I think your dislike of Apple's approach is somewhat presumptive. Samsung charge £10 for an official micro USB cable - these have no chips in or anything, and you can be damn sure that if it stopped working you wouldn't just be able to easily go into a shop and swap it. I've walked into the Apple Store with very "used" cables that have stopped working and they have *always* exchanged them, without checking any kind of receipt. This is all factored into the cost. When USB C really comes to the fore manufactures will charge the same as Apple because they are more complex cables. At the moment it is easy to get a cheap micro USB cable that works great, simply because it has no lockout/power regulation chips and they have been around for years, on millions and millions of different devices.


Maybe, maybe not.
misterleoni

In fairness this has always been the case with manufacturers - the … In fairness this has always been the case with manufacturers - the official cables are never cheap - remember Pop Ports on Nokia phones? I remember spending £20 on an official USB cable for my N70 after the cat chewed it, so I think your dislike of Apple's approach is somewhat presumptive. Samsung charge £10 for an official micro USB cable - these have no chips in or anything, and you can be damn sure that if it stopped working you wouldn't just be able to easily go into a shop and swap it. I've walked into the Apple Store with very "used" cables that have stopped working and they have *always* exchanged them, without checking any kind of receipt. This is all factored into the cost. When USB C really comes to the fore manufactures will charge the same as Apple because they are more complex cables. At the moment it is easy to get a cheap micro USB cable that works great, simply because it has no lockout/power regulation chips and they have been around for years, on millions and millions of different devices.


"Complex" or not, in reality it probably costs less than 50p to make so apple are taking the ****.

An official samsung micro usb may have an RRP of £10 but Samsung are not forcing you to use it as any micro usb will work.
Same goes for USB C, when mainstream 3rd party cables will work as well as OEM.

Apple deliberatly added security measures to their proprietery cables to stop third party cables being produced.
This is poor for competition and forces users to pay the inflated prices when they have already shelled out a mint for the phone.
callum84

"Complex" or not, in reality it probably costs less than 50p to make so … "Complex" or not, in reality it probably costs less than 50p to make so apple are taking the ****.An official samsung micro usb may have an RRP of £10 but Samsung are not forcing you to use it as any micro usb will work.Same goes for USB C, when mainstream 3rd party cables will work as well as OEM.Apple deliberatly added security measures to their proprietery cables to stop third party cables being produced.This is poor for competition and forces users to pay the inflated prices when they have already shelled out a mint for the phone.


Again, my point entirely.
I wouldn't buy any charger / cable that's not MFI you can now buy a genuine lightning to micro USB adaptor for around £5 from various places allowing you to use any USB cable.
othen

Again, my point entirely.



So do USB C cables. Does that mean when manufacturers start using these they are as bad as Apple? Nokia's proprietary cables had nothing special in them but were more expensive than this; other manufacturers produce cables with proprietary connectors and they are equally expensive. At the end of the day, you have an option of a Poundland iPhone connector or a Poundland Micro USB connector which will both work. All manufacturers produce their own cables for between £10-£15 and even if we acknowledge that micro USB cables are easier to come by, this is chiefly because there are millions more devices using them than Lightning. I don't really see what the problem is. As I said before, you pay a set amount for an Apple lead from Apple but they will at least always replace it, and you don't *have* to get it from them as other suppliers do sell genuine ones, or MFi compatible cables - for a lot less. It's a choice thing.

Personally I can't stand Micro USB anyway and will be glad to see USB C gain popularity!
I have used these and can confirm that these cables are no better than cheap chinese ones. Worked ok for 3 days but not now
arora

I have used these and can confirm that these cables are no better than … I have used these and can confirm that these cables are no better than cheap chinese ones. Worked ok for 3 days but not now


I have no axe to grind here, but as I said above I've been using these with iPhone and iPads since last autumn with no failures. I suspect these are Chinese ones (in fact I suspect the genuine Apple ones are as well) but they seem to work fine.
BigOrkWaaagh

You forgot to add "for all of five minutes".


Am so glad others have had no problem with these.Unfortunately I haven't been as lucky..Havebought half a dozen of these and they all work great for a couple of weeks and then the error messages start appearing.Have had 2 that actually drained the battery when I used them.Always buy mine from Cex now.Last time I bought I think they were £3.50.
MEGAONE

Am so glad others have had no problem with these.Unfortunately I haven't … Am so glad others have had no problem with these.Unfortunately I haven't been as lucky..Havebought half a dozen of these and they all work great for a couple of weeks and then the error messages start appearing.Have had 2 that actually drained the battery when I used them.Always buy mine from Cex now.Last time I bought I think they were £3.50.


Maybe I've just been lucky with the 3 or 4 cables I bought? I've not had a failure in 4 months, indeed the iPad I'm writing this note with was charged with one overnight.
I suppose Cex items are second hand, but I'm guessing there is a test procedure (I've never bought anything from Cex, but the web site looks very professional).
othen

The charging rate seems to be exactly the same as the original lightening … The charging rate seems to be exactly the same as the original lightening cables (I think we still have one that works from the various iPhones and iPads we have).



Cheers, will take a look in our local poundland later.
jongerry

By and large a cable is a cable is a cable. Most of it is just spin by … By and large a cable is a cable is a cable. Most of it is just spin by makers. Look it up.



Well that isn't true...

Firstly you have the issue on iPhones telling you that a cable isn't genuine and won't charge.

Secondly some of the "cheaper" cables fall apart even easier than the genuine Apple ones. A lot of them have very insecure soldering points meaning they fail in no time. And others use poor quality cable meaning the charging speeds are very slow.

A cable is not just a cable. You can get decent cheap cables, but a lot of the cheap ones are rubbish.
What part of "by and large" didn't you understand? Most very cheap versions of anything fall apart not just cables. Just because Apple are dishonest enough to put a chip in their cables doesn't alter the point that most cables are just wires,"4K specials,gold plated,superior" etc are just advertising puffery to part fools from their money. If a thing is too cheap to be true then usually it isn't true.
Lightning cables are proprietary and are under the complete control of Apple. USB - C is an open standard so any company that wishes can produce these cables without needing to licence the technology.

When you buy an Apple product you accept that you are giving up some freedom and control in contrast to say buying an Android phone or say a Windows PC. In return for this you are given a user experience which provides value to you otherwise you would not buy an Apple product.

As the value proposition declines through perhaps higher prices, accessory costs etc you will reach a point where you will decide that there is better value elsewhere and not buy Apple.

bigpappa

Lightning cables are proprietary and are under the complete control of … Lightning cables are proprietary and are under the complete control of Apple. USB - C is an open standard so any company that wishes can produce these cables without needing to licence the technology.When you buy an Apple product you accept that you are giving up some freedom and control in contrast to say buying an Android phone or say a Windows PC. In return for this you are given a user experience which provides value to you otherwise you would not buy an Apple product.As the value proposition declines through perhaps higher prices, accessory costs etc you will reach a point where you will decide that there is better value elsewhere and not buy Apple.


Great post
jongerry

What part of "by and large" didn't you understand? Most very cheap … What part of "by and large" didn't you understand? Most very cheap versions of anything fall apart not just cables. Just because Apple are dishonest enough to put a chip in their cables doesn't alter the point that most cables are just wires,"4K specials,gold plated,superior" etc are just advertising puffery to part fools from their money. If a thing is too cheap to be true then usually it isn't true.


I'm intrigued: is there really a chip in a lightning cable, or is that an urban myth (put about by Apple)? There would be no requirement to have a chip in a cable (it would be much easier to do the processing in the device), and it is hard to imagine that even Apple would go that far.
Does anyone have a definitive answer?
bigpappa

Lightning cables are proprietary and are under the complete control of … Lightning cables are proprietary and are under the complete control of Apple. USB - C is an open standard so any company that wishes can produce these cables without needing to licence the technology.When you buy an Apple product you accept that you are giving up some freedom and control in contrast to say buying an Android phone or say a Windows PC. In return for this you are given a user experience which provides value to you otherwise you would not buy an Apple product.As the value proposition declines through perhaps higher prices, accessory costs etc you will reach a point where you will decide that there is better value elsewhere and not buy Apple.



I agree, that is exactly where this post started. Having been trapped in the iPhone/iPod/iPad trap I'm seeing little in the way of value that compensates for the high initial cost and accessories (cables, Apple TV &c). Luckily there are now perfectly good alternatives using other operating systems, so I will probably just allow all our Apple products to waste out.
othen

I'm intrigued: is there really a chip in a lightning cable, or is that an … I'm intrigued: is there really a chip in a lightning cable, or is that an urban myth (put about by Apple)? There would be no requirement to have a chip in a cable (it would be much easier to do the processing in the device), and it is hard to imagine that even Apple would go that far.Does anyone have a definitive answer?


Yes,there is at least one page on the net where it was taken apart. Apple claim it is to ensure cables work both ways,but techs say it links with the device in a way that non apple cables can't. Google apple cable chip.
jongerry

Yes,there is at least one page on the net where it was taken apart. … Yes,there is at least one page on the net where it was taken apart. Apple claim it is to ensure cables work both ways,but techs say it links with the device in a way that non apple cables can't. Google apple cable chip.


Thank you for that. I googled it and now I like Apple even less as a company. The good news is that it appears the chip has been cracked (see here: http://www.techradar.com/news/computing/apple/apple-lightning-connector-what-you-need-to-know-1106884), which is I suppose what is in the £1 cables I have been using recently. I'm pleased that the rather silly idea of putting an authentication chip in a cable just to hike the price has been cracked by some Chinese manufacturer that can produce and ship them to me for under a pound.
I doubt that I will ever buy another Apple product.
The chip in the cable is not just to hike up the price. It's to protect Apple devices from being broken by poor quality cables that used to cost Apple a lot of money in unproven warranty returns and repairs. By putting a chip in the cable they can tell if a device has been using a non MFI cable which would void your warranty.
cabstar

The chip in the cable is not just to hike up the price. It's to protect … The chip in the cable is not just to hike up the price. It's to protect Apple devices from being broken by poor quality cables that used to cost Apple a lot of money in unproven warranty returns and repairs. By putting a chip in the cable they can tell if a device has been using a non MFI cable which would void your warranty.


The more I learn of the Apple company the less I like it.

cabstar

The chip in the cable is not just to hike up the price. It's to protect … The chip in the cable is not just to hike up the price. It's to protect Apple devices from being broken by poor quality cables that used to cost Apple a lot of money in unproven warranty returns and repairs. By putting a chip in the cable they can tell if a device has been using a non MFI cable which would void your warranty.



How much does the chip cost? 2p,3p? Why do none of their competitors need to do this? Are only Apple having trouble with false claims? If you accept this line of reasoning then you are either gullible or you have shares in Apple
bigpappa

Lightning cables are proprietary and are under the complete control of … Lightning cables are proprietary and are under the complete control of Apple. USB - C is an open standard so any company that wishes can produce these cables without needing to licence the technology.When you buy an Apple product you accept that you are giving up some freedom and control in contrast to say buying an Android phone or say a Windows PC. In return for this you are given a user experience which provides value to you otherwise you would not buy an Apple product.As the value proposition declines through perhaps higher prices, accessory costs etc you will reach a point where you will decide that there is better value elsewhere and not buy Apple.


I guess you are very young or you work for Apple. "giving up some freedom and control" to someone who is taking your money. Not in this life, sucker.
jongerry

How much does the chip cost? 2p,3p? Why do none of their competitors need … How much does the chip cost? 2p,3p? Why do none of their competitors need to do this? Are only Apple having trouble with false claims? If you accept this line of reasoning then you are either gullible or you have shares in Apple



I just had a warranty claim against Apple for a poor performing battery after 23 months of use and under the diagnostics they can tell whether MFI cables have been used or not. They even told me it was a faulty battery as I hadn't used none MFI cables. So yeah maybe I'm slightly more informed than others...
cabstar

I just had a warranty claim against Apple for a poor performing battery … I just had a warranty claim against Apple for a poor performing battery after 23 months of use and under the diagnostics they can tell whether MFI cables have been used or not. They even told me it was a faulty battery as I hadn't used none MFI cables. So yeah maybe I'm slightly more informed than others...



This sounds like just another way for the Apple company to squirm out of honouring its warranty obligations. All other manufacturers operate perfectly well with non-proprietary cables, this is nothing more that profiteering.
... by the way: I thought I had the first failure of one of these cheap lightning cables to report a few days ago when my iPad failed to charge completely overnight. I swapped the cable back to a genuine Apple product and exactly the same error occurred, the fault was with the (Apple) plug in transformer that had failed. I wondered whether the Apple company had put a chip in the transformer as well, or whether it was just rubbish.
:-)
jongerry

By and large a cable is a cable is a cable. Most of it is just spin by … By and large a cable is a cable is a cable. Most of it is just spin by makers. Look it up.



That is the voice of the ignorant. Try wiring up an HDMI connection using some random lengths of hookup cable and see how well it works, after all a cable is a cable so it shouldn't make any difference right?
mikerj

That is the voice of the ignorant. Try wiring up an HDMI connection … That is the voice of the ignorant. Try wiring up an HDMI connection using some random lengths of hookup cable and see how well it works, after all a cable is a cable so it shouldn't make any difference right?



Not only weeks behind but also weak in the head. The "type for type " was understood by everyone except you. Best not come on here after too many wine gums
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