CHEAP FUEL @ TESCO 104.9 for Unleaded , 106.9 for Diesel using a clubcard
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CHEAP FUEL @ TESCO 104.9 for Unleaded , 106.9 for Diesel using a clubcard

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just filled up in Tesco Sutton, Surrey and other was cheap 104.9 unleaded and 106.9 diesel! cost me around 30 quid for a full tank. (have an audi a2.
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Original Poster
if you find it cheaper locally please share but this is cheapest in my area ever. next was 109.9 at BP! !
Its good to see price drops but when will the regulator force the price down to what it should be, the supermarkets are controlling the market and making a killing.
Blackgang

when will the regulator force the price down to what it should be


Never under the Tories but now there is another alternative
You say that this price is when using your clubcard. Do these prices include your fuelsave discount?
Blackgang

Its good to see price drops but when will the regulator force the price … Its good to see price drops but when will the regulator force the price down to what it should be, the supermarkets are controlling the market and making a killing.



Most of the price is tax. So when the price of oil drops by 50%, the price of fuel only goes down by 10%. The "regulator" is the one ripping you off.
I do wish people would stop moaning about tax on fuel...
Where do you think the tax money goes? Into the same pot *ultimately) that all the other tax goes...
If it wasn't petrol/diesel being taxed, it would only be raised on something else to ensure the total collected would be the same...

Or would that be ok as long as it wasn't increased on something you didn't need?....
Blackgang

Its good to see price drops but when will the regulator force the price … Its good to see price drops but when will the regulator force the price down to what it should be, the supermarkets are controlling the market and making a killing.


Out of 8500 forecourts in the UK, Asda, Morrisons, Sainsbury and Tesco own approximately 1400 forecourts between them. BP, Esso, Shell and Texaco own 4000. So how do supermarkets control the market?
jdbigguy

Out of 8500 forecourts in the UK, Asda, Morrisons, Sainsbury and Tesco … Out of 8500 forecourts in the UK, Asda, Morrisons, Sainsbury and Tesco own approximately 1400 forecourts between them. BP, Esso, Shell and Texaco own 4000. So how do supermarkets control the market?


Now dig out the breakdown by volume of fuel...
The average supermarket forecourt is FAR busier than the average fuel station, the fuel is used as a loss leader, that's why there are far fewer independant fuel stations around nowadays, as there is so little profit in the sale of actual petrol...
Edited by: "bilbob" 24th Sep 2015
Why is this only with clubcard?
bilbob

Now dig out the breakdown by volume of fuel...The average supermarket … Now dig out the breakdown by volume of fuel...The average supermarket forecourt is FAR busier than the average fuel station, the fuel is used as a loss leader, that's why there are far fewer independant fuel stations around nowadays, as there is so little profit in the sale of actual petrol...


Blackgangs original post said supermarkets are making a killing and suggested they are keeping prices artificially high because they "control the market". You agree with me that they are in fact keeping the prices down.
In terms of volume sales, the main supermarkets have a 44% share between them. How much does that give them control of the market? make of it what you will , but remember the big fuel companies profits make supermarkets look like barrow boys.
jdbigguy

Blackgangs original post said supermarkets are making a killing and … Blackgangs original post said supermarkets are making a killing and suggested they are keeping prices artificially high because they "control the market". You agree with me that they are in fact keeping the prices down.In terms of volume sales, the main supermarkets have a 44% share between them. How much does that give them control of the market? make of it what you will , but remember the big fuel companies profits make supermarkets look like barrow boys.


That 44% share of the market comes from (approx) 17% share of the forecourts... They hold a disproportionate share of the market. They make very little profit on fuel as they drive the price down to use as a loss leader to sell goods in their stores, hence they are wrapped up in their own little price war, which none of them can win.
Meanwhile, all the other sites that sell fuel are FORCED to compete with them to stay in business, hence, as I said, why there are so few independant stations left, they can't rely on massive superstores of inflated price goods to make up the difference. They have to make a profit on fuel, and it's not possible, because everyone HAS to fight the supermarkets in a phoney war.

And the oil COMPANIES making profit, is VERY different to the forecourts making profit... Again, I return to independant traders being forced out. The oil companies can sustain low profit per litre as their profit, again, comes from a different source, and from sellign that oil all over the planet to billions of users. Not to me an you at tesco.
Edited by: "bilbob" 24th Sep 2015
bilbob

I do wish people would stop moaning about tax on fuel...Where do you … I do wish people would stop moaning about tax on fuel...Where do you think the tax money goes? Into the same pot *ultimately) that all the other tax goes...If it wasn't petrol/diesel being taxed, it would only be raised on something else to ensure the total collected would be the same...Or would that be ok as long as it wasn't increased on something you didn't need?....



Yes like taxing the rich!!
bilbob

Now dig out the breakdown by volume of fuel...The average supermarket … Now dig out the breakdown by volume of fuel...The average supermarket forecourt is FAR busier than the average fuel station, the fuel is used as a loss leader, that's why there are far fewer independant fuel stations around nowadays, as there is so little profit in the sale of actual petrol...



So you are saying that competition is keeping profits down so well that independents can't survive. How is the "regulator" supposed to step in and push prices down even further?
bilbob

I do wish people would stop moaning about tax on fuel...Where do you … I do wish people would stop moaning about tax on fuel...Where do you think the tax money goes?



Pi55ed away like all the other taxes. What is needed is not different taxes, but less tax overall, on everything, and less spending by government.
LongPockets

So you are saying that competition is keeping profits down so well that … So you are saying that competition is keeping profits down so well that independents can't survive. How is the "regulator" supposed to step in and push prices down even further?


If you bothered to read, I wasn't replying to the comment about the 'regulator'.
Just filled up and paid 108.9 per litre so maybe garage specific?
Using clubcard made no difference whatsoever
bilbob

If you bothered to read, I wasn't replying to the comment about the … If you bothered to read, I wasn't replying to the comment about the 'regulator'.



That's not relevant to the point I was making. Your point was that there is very little profit in selling petrol, so little that small businesses cannot compete. This represents a refutation of someone else's saying that the "regulator" should force sellers to lower prices. I pointed that out.The cause of high fuel prices is tax, not profiteering.
LongPockets

That's not relevant to the point I was making. Your point was that there … That's not relevant to the point I was making. Your point was that there is very little profit in selling petrol, so little that small businesses cannot compete. This represents a refutation of someone else's saying that the "regulator" should force sellers to lower prices. I pointed that out.The cause of high fuel prices is tax, not profiteering.


And they all pay the same rates of tax, so I still don't see the point you are making.
bilbob

That 44% share of the market comes from (approx) 17% share of the … That 44% share of the market comes from (approx) 17% share of the forecourts... They hold a disproportionate share of the market. They make very little profit on fuel as they drive the price down to use as a loss leader to sell goods in their stores, hence they are wrapped up in their own little price war, which none of them can win.Meanwhile, all the other sites that sell fuel are FORCED to compete with them to stay in business, hence, as I said, why there are so few independant stations left, they can't rely on massive superstores of inflated price goods to make up the difference. They have to make a profit on fuel, and it's not possible, because everyone HAS to fight the supermarkets in a phoney war.And the oil COMPANIES making profit, is VERY different to the forecourts making profit... Again, I return to independant traders being forced out. The oil companies can sustain low profit per litre as their profit, again, comes from a different source, and from sellign that oil all over the planet to billions of users. Not to me an you at tesco.


That makes sense to me, but my main point was Blackgangs post claiming the supermarkets were making a killing selling fuel, because they have "control" makes no sense. I think you are agreeing with me about that, but I'm not sure.
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