Cheap laptop for light use - Lenovo IdeaPad 110S Laptop, Intel Celeron, 2GB RAM, 32GB eMMC, 11.6" and Office 365 1 Year Subscription Included, Silver £129 @ John lewis
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Cheap laptop for light use - Lenovo IdeaPad 110S Laptop, Intel Celeron, 2GB RAM, 32GB eMMC, 11.6" and Office 365 1 Year Subscription Included, Silver £129 @ John lewis

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Posted 10th Dec 2017
Just bought this laptop for my lad (8) for Christmas so he can do his homework, little bit surfing, youtube etc

I bought my daughter one very similar last year on the Tesco £99 deal but can't find anything near that so this is the next best price + John Lewis customer service / extra warranty!!



Product information -

A wise investment that won't break the bank, the Lenovo Ideapad 110S laptop has a hardened steel shell to withstand frequent travel and a number of USB ports to easily connect your smartphone, printer or mouse.

Power on the go
Intel Celeron processor gives you the speed you need to get things, like browsing, emailing and editing documents, done when you're on the go. The Celeron even includes a burst frequency of up to 2.48Ghz, which will inject some extra power to keep things running smoothly at difficult times.

Multiple connections
With 2 USB 2.0, 1 super-fast USB 3.0 and HDMI ports to give you the option to add external peripherals such as a mouse, printer and digital TV.

Windows 10
An expert at delivering the everyday with an individual touch - Windows 10 provides an instant start up, quick movement between applications, prompts for available updates and personalised experience. It's fitted with the Cortana, which learns what's important to you and retrieves relevant updates when needed. Windows 10 also comes with 5GB of free OneDrive storage, Continuum 3 to adjust your apps and content, and Xbox app to easily connect with your gaming community.

Software included:


  • 1-year Office 365 Personal subscription
  • Lenovo™ OneKey Recovery
  • Lenovo™ Companion 3.0
  • Lenovo™ Photo Master
  • Lenovo™ SHAREit
  • Lenovo™ REACHit
  • McAfee® LiveSafe™ (trial)
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These laptops are shockingly slow I bought my daughter one last year slow to load web pages avoid
MarkShopper10/12/2017 17:29

32GB storage, I believe Windows 10 takes 28GB doesn't it? It will need …32GB storage, I believe Windows 10 takes 28GB doesn't it? It will need security software too which will take resources. With 32GB storage, only 2GB RAM and a processor that scores a terrible 989 points on CPU benchmark I would prepare for disappointment if you buy this.


Sorry, but did you entirely make this up? Windows 10 takes about 7GB, I have the 100s (which is the older Bay Trail version of this), it also has 32GB eMMC, 28GB usable and 20.5GB free from clean reset. Windows Defender is adequate for light use combined with basic best practice, you'll be fine.

Synthetic benchmarks are a complete waste of time, real world use this is actually half-decent because it can handle light-threaded tasks much better than older Atoms, it lasts hours on a single charge and more importantly costs a fraction of anything else running Windows while also being brand new. Sure, you can look at ex-lease machines in this price bracket but that's literally entering another territory.

For a computer that I can shove into a small rucksuck, ride to/from work with and not be too worried about, this is ideal. Chromebooks are an option but occasionally you want x86 and Windows compatibility.
Will only disappoint.
32GB storage, I believe Windows 10 takes 28GB doesn't it? It will need security software too which will take resources. With 32GB storage, only 2GB RAM and a processor that scores a terrible 989 points on CPU benchmark I would prepare for disappointment if you buy this.
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This laptop will be garbage. Buy something like this instead, it's a 1000% percent better for a little more. Yes its refurbed but if you're on a budget, and even if not, for general use and more there really is no comparison.

Lenovo Thinkpad X230
Edited by: "pc5020" 11th Dec 2017
Ive got one and it's so slow! Go for a tablet!
If this is your budget look at a Chromebook. Windows laptops under £300 are dire.
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Jolleysaurus10 h, 30 m ago

10 comments and no mention of lack of HD screen! People are slacking!



The screen is hd! 1366 x 768 pixels
But not full HD (which is bad, even at this price range)
The best think to do is to delete everything. Install Linux mint and open office. This should increase the speed and leave much more space the applications (and give the student a taste of the world outside windows) I'd also Ghost the existing installation to a HD just in case I wanted to restore it later.
Scottc12312 h, 26 m ago

"laptop" outperformed by most smartphones


Smartphones 5 years ago!!
I appreciate that many people are on a budget but buying laptops that are only likely to last a year at best, apart from being wasteful is a false economy. Buying a better laptop that will last 4-5 years is cheaper in the long run that repeatedly buying cheap underspeced laptops.

Office 2016 requires 4gb of ram to even run properly. Chrome running multiple tabs will crash with only 2gb of ram. Running multiple applications will also cause it to crash, also the lack of hard drive would mean that it’s constantly over 90% full leading to poor experience due to the reliance on swap file for ram usage.
fingermouse13 h, 30 m ago

Lasted 13 months then motherboard blew £165 for a new one so binned it




Retailer refund/repair/replacement?
Manufacturer's warranty?

Know your rights.

Also, I hope 'binned it' actually means disposed of it through the proper recycling facilities.
Edited by: "TehJumpingJawa" 11th Dec 2017
What's the best laptop for around £300
cmdr_elito11/12/2017 06:09

I appreciate that many people are on a budget but buying laptops that are …I appreciate that many people are on a budget but buying laptops that are only likely to last a year at best, apart from being wasteful is a false economy. Buying a better laptop that will last 4-5 years is cheaper in the long run that repeatedly buying cheap underspeced laptops.Office 2016 requires 4gb of ram to even run properly. Chrome running multiple tabs will crash with only 2gb of ram. Running multiple applications will also cause it to crash, also the lack of hard drive would mean that it’s constantly over 90% full leading to poor experience due to the reliance on swap file for ram usage.


Stop spreading FUD - this is all absolute rubbish. Do you think I or anyone else who has actually used one of these (or any of the many 2GB RAM laptops, or even, shock horror, those tablets with just 1GB RAM) would tolerate Chrome ‘constantly crashing’?

And it’s not 90% full is it - because I actually said it has 20GB free from fresh and over 10GB once I had the stuff I needed on it, so unless 20GB free of 32GB (or 28GB usable) now comes to 90% full, I’ve been doing maths wrong my whole life.

I am sure just ‘spending more money’ or ‘buying second-hand/ex-lease’ are options for some people but not if you wanted something new with warranty for £129...
I have had one past year best thing I love about this laptop is the battery life is superb get about 8 hours and it's very light and small for travelling too. Bought 128gb memory stick for it I install all my apps into that too free up the limited space.
pgilc110/12/2017 19:23

I have to agree with this. 32GB is just too tight to run Windows 10 on …I have to agree with this. 32GB is just too tight to run Windows 10 on without a lot of effort managing it. I'd prefer a good used ex business laptop to one of these.


Happy Christmas! Here's your laptop, sorry it's not in a sealed box and try to ignore the wear, tear, snot and grime but it has an i3 processor and a 4 year old HDD! Your so lucky I took the advice of HUKD.
Better off buying a chromebook. For homework & internet use will be soooo much quicker. This won't be capable of playing any games, even minecraft will struggle along, just like the operating system.


Look into putting cloudready on a usb stick if this laptop becomes too slow. Get the best of both worlds.
Edited by: "jp-supra" 11th Dec 2017
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plewis0010/12/2017 23:39

Ok, accepted. But this system runs full Windows 10 and I have never seen a …Ok, accepted. But this system runs full Windows 10 and I have never seen a 'lite' Windows 10 in the wild. I was well aware of the sham with Windows RT, though I actually quite liked RT as it saw so little use, no-one ever bothered to hack it or write viruses. The only other versions of 10 I've heard of are Windows 10 for IoT and Windows 10 S (which I'm going to avoid like the plague).Anyway, this system has normal Windows 10 on it.



According to M$ themselves, 32bit Win10 needs 16GB of space for a fresh install; that is before you load anything else, install a browser that works, anti virus, firewall, some kind of document manipulation software (I wouldnt try to run Office on this), LibreOffice would be a possibility -the full suite is only 550MB installed for the 64bit version.

Please remember, the actual amount used at the END of the install process is not the same as the amount needed to install.

However, if you managed to keep the used space small enough for Creators to install - kudos; most people with 32GB drives couldnt.
You must do a lot of housing keeping on it.
tanked10 h, 1 m ago

I bought one very recently and opened it. There is an M.2 slot so you can …I bought one very recently and opened it. There is an M.2 slot so you can upgrade with one of those however you can't upgrade the memory or anything else. It is exactly like this video:[Video] Also I think there is about 8Gb free of the 32Gb (that's with Windows 10 + Office 365). Just be sure to keep removing things like "Windows update backup files"


The m.2 expansion slot explained: howtogeek.com/320…ot/

And: cnet.com/pro…ew/
Edited by: "obwan2014" 11th Dec 2017
deleted129396011/12/2017 09:08

According to M$ themselves, 32bit Win10 needs 16GB of space for a fresh …According to M$ themselves, 32bit Win10 needs 16GB of space for a fresh install; that is before you load anything else, install a browser that works, anti virus, firewall, some kind of document manipulation software (I wouldnt try to run Office on this), LibreOffice would be a possibility -the full suite is only 550MB installed for the 64bit version.Please remember, the actual amount used at the END of the install process is not the same as the amount needed to install.However, if you managed to keep the used space small enough for Creators to install - kudos; most people with 32GB drives couldnt.You must do a lot of housing keeping on it.


I haven't done any housekeeping. Out of the box, this machine has around 20GB free. I suspect Microsoft is quoting space it would 'like' to have during install and trying to avoid any possible fallout/litigation. I am aware it uses space during as it unpacks. I can only say anecdotally that I have never had a low disk warning on this machine during updates or otherwise.

Lots of people seem to want to shoot this machine down, I am trying to provide a point of view from someone who uses one of these most days and has little complaint, because I am aware of its limits and work within that. I use Office 2007 and have about 8GB of Dropbox synced to it with 9GB free.
I really can't imagine how badly Windows 10 would run on 2GB RAM.
I have a laptop with 4gb ram and it is slow as heck. Cant imagine what this would be like
Might as well get a decent 10" tablet and a case with built in keyboard
justicesj11/12/2017 10:08

I have a laptop with 4gb ram and it is slow as heck. Cant imagine what …I have a laptop with 4gb ram and it is slow as heck. Cant imagine what this would be like


There’s quite a lot to a computer other than ‘how much RAM it has’ so your machine being slow doesn’t tell you anything about why.

Well from someone who uses one, it’s plenty fast enough, probably faster than yours as I’m going to assume from the vagueness of your comment you have a slow mechanical hard disk and not a low latency eMMC or SSD.
This deals comments is full of bull $hit speculation from people who have never owned a laptop with these specs.
I'm using one now to type this and it has 2gb of ram 32gb eMMC with 13GB free after installing my needed programs and it's running just fine and it even has the older atom Z3735f processor.
I've had it for a few years and it has been superb after I cleaned up all the crap the manufacturers install with a new system.
Spark11/12/2017 09:50

I really can't imagine how badly Windows 10 would run on 2GB RAM.


I'll give you a clue, Linx 7" & 8" tablets only have 1GB of ram and run just fine and where very popular on here not so long ago.

hotukdeals.com/dea…853

Windows 10 manages the ram way better than older operating systems.
Edited by: "porsche911turbo" 11th Dec 2017
Folks stay away from anything that doesn't have at least 4GB.

Anything else is just throwing away money.
porsche911turbo11/12/2017 11:53

I'll give you a clue, Linx 7" & 8" tablets only have 1GB of ram and run …I'll give you a clue, Linx 7" & 8" tablets only have 1GB of ram and run just fine and where very popular on here not so long ago.Windows 10 managers the ram way better than older operating systems.



You're right, they do. When I had a Linx for all of a week I had the 10" version but even that only ran on 2GB now you mention it.
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porsche911turbo11/12/2017 11:43

This deals comments is full of bull $hit speculation from people who have …This deals comments is full of bull $hit speculation from people who have never owned a laptop with these specs.I'm using one now to type this and it has 2gb of ram 32gb eMMC with 13GB free after installing my needed programs and it's running just fine and it even has the older atom Z3735f processor.I've had it for a few years and it has been superb after I cleaned up all the crap the manufacturers install with a new system.



I have one, even after a DIY replacement of the emmc with a bigger and faster one, it is still a dog, even using a light-weight version of Linux. It gets used almost exclusively as a charger/wifi hub/photo server when on holiday these days. It can handle basic browsing and letter writing with libreoffice or MSO2007 in an emergency, but life is too short, and a decent "Note" sized phone is faster - even at the letter writing.
bensbargains5 h, 6 m ago

Happy Christmas! Here's your laptop, sorry it's not in a sealed box and …Happy Christmas! Here's your laptop, sorry it's not in a sealed box and try to ignore the wear, tear, snot and grime but it has an i3 processor and a 4 year old HDD! Your so lucky I took the advice of HUKD.



bensbargains5 h, 6 m ago

Happy Christmas! Here's your laptop, sorry it's not in a sealed box and …Happy Christmas! Here's your laptop, sorry it's not in a sealed box and try to ignore the wear, tear, snot and grime but it has an i3 processor and a 4 year old HDD! Your so lucky I took the advice of HUKD.



If you really must buy your little snowflake something new and shiny then at least buy them something usable. As posted already, this one has 4GB RAM (pretty much the minimum for Win10) and a 64GB drive for the same price

hotukdeals.com/dea…765

And for comparison, i bought an absolutely mint HP laptop off ebay - proper robust business quality, 14 inch screen, i3, RAM upgraded to 8GB, drive upgraded to 240GB SSD, fully boxed and a new battery recently fitted for £122 delivered. The guy had had it from new and was only selling to replace it with a desktop machine. It will be running for many many years after this thing has been abandoned.
Edited by: "pgilc1" 11th Dec 2017
porsche911turbo11/12/2017 11:43

This deals comments is full of bull $hit speculation from people who have …This deals comments is full of bull $hit speculation from people who have never owned a laptop with these specs.I'm using one now to type this and it has 2gb of ram 32gb eMMC with 13GB free after installing my needed programs and it's running just fine and it even has the older atom Z3735f processor.I've had it for a few years and it has been superb after I cleaned up all the crap the manufacturers install with a new system.


^^^^^^^

And therein lies the problem. It is possible to use a machine like this as long as you reinstall windows, only have the absolute minimum software on it, keep removing update files and keep on top of free space.

However most of these will be sold as Christmas presents for kids. How many 8 year olds are going to be able to do all that?
The answer might be to put something like a Linux XFCE distro on it (eg Linux Mint or Xubuntu). Will work just fine in 2Gb and full installation is around 6Gb so you have space for data and apps. Should go much faster too

So, if you can live without being tied to Microsoft (always a good idea) this if you want to run apps locally or a Chromebook if you don't will deliver a much better experience.
Edited by: "brainsys" 11th Dec 2017
pgilc111/12/2017 13:35

^^^^^^^And therein lies the problem. How many 8 year olds are going to …^^^^^^^And therein lies the problem. How many 8 year olds are going to be able to do all that?


You underestimate 8 Year olds and their abilities with modern technology.
But yes what you say is true these do need tweeking but once you have done it they are perfectly capable machines It's just a shame the manufacturers feel a need to bloat them with useless crap such as McAfee and itunes.
Edited by: "porsche911turbo" 11th Dec 2017
I've had one for over a year.
If you want a basic cheap laptop to do a bit of basic work on or a bit of browsing, then it's pretty good. It's also very light weight and the battery lasts a long time.

But, yes it is pretty slow. Busy websites can take a while to load and gaming is really not feasible.

Basic work is better, work processing etc. But again the keyboard isn't great. But what do you really expect for £129.

Windows updates do fill it up, you need to remove old versions or oyu'll run out of space fast.
porsche911turbo11/12/2017 13:59

You underestimate 8 Year olds and their abilities with modern technology.


No i dont. No 8 year old will do any of that. Keep it real
Edited by: "pgilc1" 11th Dec 2017
pgilc120 h, 27 m ago

I have to agree with this. 32GB is just too tight to run Windows 10 on …I have to agree with this. 32GB is just too tight to run Windows 10 on without a lot of effort managing it. I'd prefer a good used ex business laptop to one of these.


Wipe off win 10, install smallest ubuntu distributive. Should work for browsing
plewis0010/12/2017 23:39

Ok, accepted. But this system runs full Windows 10 and I have never seen a …Ok, accepted. But this system runs full Windows 10 and I have never seen a 'lite' Windows 10 in the wild. I was well aware of the sham with Windows RT, though I actually quite liked RT as it saw so little use, no-one ever bothered to hack it or write viruses. The only other versions of 10 I've heard of are Windows 10 for IoT and Windows 10 S (which I'm going to avoid like the plague).Anyway, this system has normal Windows 10 on it.



You will have come across these lite installs if Windows 10:
Please check again on a tablet with a small disk --> run command "compact.exe /CompactOS:query" to verify.

There is a Compact version of Windows 10
all manufacturers deploy Compact OS to these devices with 16/32/64Gb storage (but not single instancing to avoid the performance hit, unless it has an SSD because eMMC is too slow)
docs.microsoft.com/en-…-os
EDIT: Hmmm moderator please help: the HUKD website changes the link above so it links through to the MS store for referral fees, use this link (and replace $ with .) docs$microsoft$com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/compact-os#Size_comparisons

Compact OS has nothing to do with Windows RT (which was for ARM only, that was dropped and now with OneCore ther ei just one kernel - both Apple and Google are not there yet, MS is but then Windows Mobile is dead) but Compact OS is the next generation of what MS introduced with Win8.1 with WIMBoot, was impressive but Compact OS is a good improvement (because with WIMBoot new security and feature updates kept eating disk space because they were not injected in the WIM image)

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Edited by: "plap" 11th Dec 2017
plap11/12/2017 16:14

You will have come across these lite installs if Windows 10:Please check …You will have come across these lite installs if Windows 10:Please check again on a tablet with a small disk --> run command "compact.exe /CompactOS:query" to verify.There is a Compact version of Windows 10all manufacturers deploy Compact OS to these devices with 16/32/64Gb storage (but not single instancing to avoid the performance hit, unless it has an SSD because eMMC is too slow)https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/compact-os#Size_comparisonsEDIT: Hmmm moderator please help: the HUKD website changes the link above so it links through to the MS store for referral fees, try this shortened link https://goo.gl/swiH4rCompact OS has nothing to do with Windows RT (which was for ARM only, that was dropped and now with OneCore ther ei just one kernel - both Apple and Google are not there yet, MS is but then Windows Mobile is dead) but Compact OS is the next generation of what MS introduced with Win8.1 with WIMBoot, was impressive but Compact OS is a good improvement (because with WIMBoot new security and feature updates kept eating disk space because they were not injected in the WIM image)


I will have a look later. I didn't mention Windows RT, that was the other person and I never got confused with that. However, I expected something more obvious with the Windows 'Lite/Compact' and that it might display in System Properties. I'll run this command on the Lenovo 100s a bit later today.
pgilc12 h, 51 m ago

^^^^^^^And therein lies the problem. It is possible to use a machine like …^^^^^^^And therein lies the problem. It is possible to use a machine like this as long as you reinstall windows, only have the absolute minimum software on it, keep removing update files and keep on top of free space.However most of these will be sold as Christmas presents for kids. How many 8 year olds are going to be able to do all that?


If you reinstall make sure to enable Compact OS, else your new install will probably take up an additional 4Gb.
On bigger disks (120Gb and more) it doesn't matter, preferably don't enable it because the compression will slow down things slightly.
plewis0058 m ago

However, I expected something more obvious with the Windows 'Lite/Compact' …However, I expected something more obvious with the Windows 'Lite/Compact' and that it might display in System Properties.


Fair point but these features (same like creating provisioning and driver packages) are only used by manufacturers or big enterprise customers who prep thousands of machines. These Windows deployment engineers have plenty of other tricks up their sleeve which advanced home users will never know.

Did a search and this recent article is pretty good/easy:
windowscentral.com/how…-pc

So yes, curious to see if it is enabled on your Lenovo
Total rubbish - don't touch...
plap1 h, 38 m ago

You will have come across these lite installs if Windows 10:Please check …You will have come across these lite installs if Windows 10:Please check again on a tablet with a small disk --> run command "compact.exe /CompactOS:query" to verify.There is a Compact version of Windows 10all manufacturers deploy Compact OS to these devices with 16/32/64Gb storage (but not single instancing to avoid the performance hit, unless it has an SSD because eMMC is too slow)https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/compact-os#Size_comparisonsEDIT: Hmmm moderator please help: the HUKD website changes the link above so it links through to the MS store for referral fees, use this link (and replace $ with .) docs$microsoft$com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/compact-os#Size_comparisonsCompact OS has nothing to do with Windows RT (which was for ARM only, that was dropped and now with OneCore ther ei just one kernel - both Apple and Google are not there yet, MS is but then Windows Mobile is dead) but Compact OS is the next generation of what MS introduced with Win8.1 with WIMBoot, was impressive but Compact OS is a good improvement (because with WIMBoot new security and feature updates kept eating disk space because they were not injected in the WIM image)[Image]



Interesting stuff if you into deploying windows. (1480 pages as a PDF )
fingermouse10th Dec

Lasted 13 months then motherboard blew £165 for a new one so binned it


shame would have paid you £10
plewis0011/12/2017 07:41

Stop spreading FUD - this is all absolute rubbish. Do you think I or …Stop spreading FUD - this is all absolute rubbish. Do you think I or anyone else who has actually used one of these (or any of the many 2GB RAM laptops, or even, shock horror, those tablets with just 1GB RAM) would tolerate Chrome ‘constantly crashing’?And it’s not 90% full is it - because I actually said it has 20GB free from fresh and over 10GB once I had the stuff I needed on it, so unless 20GB free of 32GB (or 28GB usable) now comes to 90% full, I’ve been doing maths wrong my whole life.I am sure just ‘spending more money’ or ‘buying second-hand/ex-lease’ are options for some people but not if you wanted something new with warranty for £129...

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plewis0011/12/2017 07:41

Stop spreading FUD - this is all absolute rubbish. Do you think I or …Stop spreading FUD - this is all absolute rubbish. Do you think I or anyone else who has actually used one of these (or any of the many 2GB RAM laptops, or even, shock horror, those tablets with just 1GB RAM) would tolerate Chrome ‘constantly crashing’?And it’s not 90% full is it - because I actually said it has 20GB free from fresh and over 10GB once I had the stuff I needed on it, so unless 20GB free of 32GB (or 28GB usable) now comes to 90% full, I’ve been doing maths wrong my whole life.I am sure just ‘spending more money’ or ‘buying second-hand/ex-lease’ are options for some people but not if you wanted something new with warranty for £129...


Firstly I was stating the performance in line with what a child or teenager would do (that’s what the OP stated) Install office, AV, Spotify or similar, discord, twitch, steam, games, photos, videos and there you go over 90% full and grinding to a halt.

Secondly plenty of people who have these are stating that these run like a dog and to stay away!
Either you have very low standards for computing and are happy to idle your life away waiting for it to do stuff (which I expect is true) or these people have high standards.

As for the other suggestions on this of not installing windows updates, that will leave you vulnerable to viruses/malware and let those nefarious hackers gain access to your tightly sealed wallets.......
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