Cheap laptop for light use - Lenovo IdeaPad 110S Laptop, Intel Celeron, 2GB RAM, 32GB eMMC, 11.6" and Office 365 1 Year Subscription Included, Silver £129 @ John lewis
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Cheap laptop for light use - Lenovo IdeaPad 110S Laptop, Intel Celeron, 2GB RAM, 32GB eMMC, 11.6" and Office 365 1 Year Subscription Included, Silver £129 @ John lewis

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Posted 10th Dec 2017
Just bought this laptop for my lad (8) for Christmas so he can do his homework, little bit surfing, youtube etc

I bought my daughter one very similar last year on the Tesco £99 deal but can't find anything near that so this is the next best price + John Lewis customer service / extra warranty!!



Product information -

A wise investment that won't break the bank, the Lenovo Ideapad 110S laptop has a hardened steel shell to withstand frequent travel and a number of USB ports to easily connect your smartphone, printer or mouse.

Power on the go
Intel Celeron processor gives you the speed you need to get things, like browsing, emailing and editing documents, done when you're on the go. The Celeron even includes a burst frequency of up to 2.48Ghz, which will inject some extra power to keep things running smoothly at difficult times.

Multiple connections
With 2 USB 2.0, 1 super-fast USB 3.0 and HDMI ports to give you the option to add external peripherals such as a mouse, printer and digital TV.

Windows 10
An expert at delivering the everyday with an individual touch - Windows 10 provides an instant start up, quick movement between applications, prompts for available updates and personalised experience. It's fitted with the Cortana, which learns what's important to you and retrieves relevant updates when needed. Windows 10 also comes with 5GB of free OneDrive storage, Continuum 3 to adjust your apps and content, and Xbox app to easily connect with your gaming community.

Software included:


  • 1-year Office 365 Personal subscription
  • Lenovo™ OneKey Recovery
  • Lenovo™ Companion 3.0
  • Lenovo™ Photo Master
  • Lenovo™ SHAREit
  • Lenovo™ REACHit
  • McAfee® LiveSafe™ (trial)
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These laptops are shockingly slow I bought my daughter one last year slow to load web pages avoid
MarkShopper10/12/2017 17:29

32GB storage, I believe Windows 10 takes 28GB doesn't it? It will need …32GB storage, I believe Windows 10 takes 28GB doesn't it? It will need security software too which will take resources. With 32GB storage, only 2GB RAM and a processor that scores a terrible 989 points on CPU benchmark I would prepare for disappointment if you buy this.


Sorry, but did you entirely make this up? Windows 10 takes about 7GB, I have the 100s (which is the older Bay Trail version of this), it also has 32GB eMMC, 28GB usable and 20.5GB free from clean reset. Windows Defender is adequate for light use combined with basic best practice, you'll be fine.

Synthetic benchmarks are a complete waste of time, real world use this is actually half-decent because it can handle light-threaded tasks much better than older Atoms, it lasts hours on a single charge and more importantly costs a fraction of anything else running Windows while also being brand new. Sure, you can look at ex-lease machines in this price bracket but that's literally entering another territory.

For a computer that I can shove into a small rucksuck, ride to/from work with and not be too worried about, this is ideal. Chromebooks are an option but occasionally you want x86 and Windows compatibility.
Will only disappoint.
32GB storage, I believe Windows 10 takes 28GB doesn't it? It will need security software too which will take resources. With 32GB storage, only 2GB RAM and a processor that scores a terrible 989 points on CPU benchmark I would prepare for disappointment if you buy this.
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cmdr_elito11/12/2017 20:16

windows 10 specsFirstly I was stating the performance in line with what a …windows 10 specsFirstly I was stating the performance in line with what a child or teenager would do (that’s what the OP stated) Install office, AV, Spotify or similar, discord, twitch, steam, games, photos, videos and there you go over 90% full and grinding to a halt. Secondly plenty of people who have these are stating that these run like a dog and to stay away!Either you have very low standards for computing and are happy to idle your life away waiting for it to do stuff (which I expect is true) or these people have high standards.As for the other suggestions on this of not installing windows updates, that will leave you vulnerable to viruses/malware and let those nefarious hackers gain access to your tightly sealed wallets.......


I actually use a Retina MacBook and Surface Pro 3 normally but as I don't like just tossing them in a bag when I'm commuting to work so I have the Lenovo which is far more robust and cheaper.

Few people in this thread have actually owned them but just love to be 'IT experts' quoting rubbish like 'you must have 4GB of RAM'. I also never said, 'don't install Windows Updates', do you want to make anything else up?

This is clearly not designed for gaming or running loads of heavy media apps on but since you have such a grasp of what a teenager would do, I suggest you be more helpful and find a better PC for them for similar money.
Edited by: "plewis00" 11th Dec 2017
MarkShopper10/12/2017 17:29

32GB storage, I believe Windows 10 takes 28GB doesn't it? It will need …32GB storage, I believe Windows 10 takes 28GB doesn't it? It will need security software too which will take resources. With 32GB storage, only 2GB RAM and a processor that scores a terrible 989 points on CPU benchmark I would prepare for disappointment if you buy this.


You're having a laugh Windows doesn't take up half of what you're claiming
Rich4421 m ago

You're having a laugh Windows doesn't take up half of what you're claiming



I am not claiming anything if you read the thread.
deleted129396010/12/2017 23:03

A "special" version of Win10 was originally given to OEMs for use on …A "special" version of Win10 was originally given to OEMs for use on "Netbook/Notebook" and other "lightweight laptop type devices; it went down like a box of spanners.It was never sold commercially, so perhaps that is why so few people know about it; the same way many people didnt realise the version of Windows on the original Surface was totally incompatible with any other Win OS, as it based running an ARM cpu - untill they bought a Surface, and found none of their software would work on it.The "lite" version had an extremely small install, but also had an extremely limited number of apps it could run in the foreground or background; and like the end-of-life "free for OEM" XP license, there were strict limits on the hardware and cost of the devices M$ would allow it to be installed on - hence everyone trying to cram the full version of Win10 on the hardware, so they could charge a higher price for it.A perfect storm of inadequate hardware and bloated OS.


Just wanted to respond to both of you together.

I checked the Lenovo 100s, yes, 'compact mode' is enabled, but not quite what I was expecting, so I kind of stand by my original comment - though, yes, it certainly exists and I wasn't aware of it before. From what I've read it's compression applied to the original files and organised so the original files aren't left on the disk but it can still be refreshed/restored.

When you (both) mentioned a Compact OS, I was expecting something like Vista Basic or Windows 7 Starter (or even Windows 8.1 with Bing) where features/apps are stripped out but I believe everything on the Windows 10 install is full and complete in this case - tell me if I'm wrong please? There is no restriction on the number and type of apps you can run either (not that I've hit anyway).
deleted129396010/12/2017 23:03

A "special" version of Win10 was originally given to OEMs for use on …A "special" version of Win10 was originally given to OEMs for use on "Netbook/Notebook" and other "lightweight laptop type devices; it went down like a box of spanners.It was never sold commercially, so perhaps that is why so few people know about it; the same way many people didnt realise the version of Windows on the original Surface was totally incompatible with any other Win OS, as it based running an ARM cpu - untill they bought a Surface, and found none of their software would work on it.The "lite" version had an extremely small install, but also had an extremely limited number of apps it could run in the foreground or background; and like the end-of-life "free for OEM" XP license, there were strict limits on the hardware and cost of the devices M$ would allow it to be installed on - hence everyone trying to cram the full version of Win10 on the hardware, so they could charge a higher price for it.A perfect storm of inadequate hardware and bloated OS.


Hope this makes sense and clears things up but thanks for the explanation(s).
plewis0010/12/2017 20:50

Ok, fair point. Maybe I was a little harsh. Windows has requirements of …Ok, fair point. Maybe I was a little harsh. Windows has requirements of more space but doesn't use it all. It doesn't need 16GB or 32GB but it does need 'breathing space' (virtual memory, updates, etc.). I genuinely have 20GB+ free and still over 10GB with the stuff I need loaded onto it. I use other machines as well but this one does what I need from it - I can't fault the value.There is no 'Windows 10 Lite' install or edition, it's the full Windows 10 install. There are tablets with just 16GB that run Windows 10 (Linx 10 Lite, etc.) and that is arguably too little. 32GB is fine. Comparing this to a phone is equally stupid - does your phone have a physical keyboard, does your phone run Windows or x86 apps? It's as though people just reach for the most absurd comparisons - a phone does not compare to a laptop. That's like saying your phone with a QHD AMOLED panel is better than a 50" TV without asking what someone wants to actually use it for.



For web browsing, YouTube and even homework, as OP's intended uses, a decent phone would actually perform them faster - none of these things require Windows or x86 apps. You know you can connect a physical Bluetooth keyboard to your phone right? You can in some cases even mirror or connect your phone to a larger display. There's nothing absurd about the comparison to be honest. In this day and age a phone DOES compare to a laptop.

The "Lite" version of Windows 10 is called Windows 10 S.
Edited by: "misa426" 11th Dec 2017
misa42611/12/2017 22:37

For web browsing, YouTube and even homework, as OP's intended uses, a …For web browsing, YouTube and even homework, as OP's intended uses, a decent phone would actually perform them faster - none of these things require Windows or x86 apps. You know you can connect a physical Bluetooth keyboard to your phone right? You can in some cases even mirror or connect your phone to a larger display. There's nothing absurd about the comparison to be honest. In this day and age a phone DOES compare to a laptop.


I disagree - a phone is for pocketability and convenience. Plugging loads of things into a phone is just annoying, that's why laptops haven't totally died out and people aren't using convertibles/tablets with kickstands and external keyboards. I suggest you ask the OP what they actually wanted.

I use my phone to remote into computers with TeamViewer but it's not a good experience - if I have the opportunity to do it on a laptop, that's what I'll do but the phone is good when I have no other option, it's not the first thing I'll reach for given the choice. I have never mirrored my phone to a bigger display and haven't bothered using a Bluetooth keyboard with it, these seem like 'hacks' in a situation when I don't have the actual tool I want to use.

No, the 'Lite' version of Windows 10 is not called Windows 10 S, this only just came out anyway and is not what these low-powered machines run. Read the rest of the thread if you want to understand what the actual compact OS people were talking about is. 10 S just prevents apps other than those from the App Store running, it doesn't use less space - you'd think Microsoft would learn after RT...
Edited by: "plewis00" 11th Dec 2017
plewis0011/12/2017 22:45

I disagree - a phone is for pocketability and convenience. Plugging loads …I disagree - a phone is for pocketability and convenience. Plugging loads of things into a phone is just annoying, that's why laptops haven't totally died out and people aren't using convertibles/tablets with kickstands and external keyboards. I suggest you ask the OP what they actually wanted.I use my phone to remote into computers with TeamViewer but it's not a good experience - if I have the opportunity to do it on a laptop, that's what I'll do but the phone is good when I have no other option, it's not the first thing I'll reach for given the choice. I have never mirrored my phone to a bigger display and haven't bothered using a Bluetooth keyboard with it, these seem like 'hacks' in a situation when I don't have the actual tool I want to use.



For you a phone may not seem ideal for those tasks, but kids these days are tapping away on their phones all day with no problem. I actually do a lot of my web based research on my phone. I also have no problem writing directly on my phone, which is how I'm writing this very post. Phones have in a large way replaced laptops for the younger generation - I remember when I didn't have a computer for a year I did everything on my phone - even gaming and video content uploading, managing my YouTube channel. OP has already stated their uses for the laptop. As for RDP, I recommend Splashtop or Jump over TeamViewer.

10 S is the new lite version - it's supposed to startup faster etc. But yes I understand there were other compact or lite versions of Windows previously.
Edited by: "misa426" 11th Dec 2017
misa42611/12/2017 22:54

For you a phone may not seem ideal for those tasks, but kids these days …For you a phone may not seem ideal for those tasks, but kids these days are tapping away on their phones all day with no problem. I actually do a lot of my web based research on my phone. I also have no problem writing directly on my phone, which is how I'm writing this very post. Phones have in a large way replaced laptops for the younger generation - I remember when I didn't have a computer for a year I did everything on my phone - even gaming and video content uploading, managing my YouTube channel. OP has already stated their uses for the laptop. As for RDP, I recommend Splashtop or Jump over TeamViewer.


I agree that people might do but I just couldn't see the OP giving their son a mobile phone with a keyboard for homework and expecting it to be productive. Yes, when I'm out and about, I find my phone is great for 'research on-the-go' and reading news articles - I wonder how I did without. But when I get to where I need the laptop or tablet comes out.

Yes, am aware of Splashtop (not heard of Jump) - I'll check it out. I don't actually like TeamViewer or their principles but when you're so involved and tied up with an ecosystem, changing when something isn't broken is often too much hard work.
Good price, as long as you can live with the obvious limitations. The main problem is only 2 GB of RAM, which means only light apps will work well, and even Chrome may struggle at time. Shame it is not Full HD - you can get that for a similar price with a bit of luck.
plewis008 m ago

I agree that people might do but I just couldn't see the OP giving their …I agree that people might do but I just couldn't see the OP giving their son a mobile phone with a keyboard for homework and expecting it to be productive. Yes, when I'm out and about, I find my phone is great for 'research on-the-go' and reading news articles - I wonder how I did without. But when I get to where I need the laptop or tablet comes out.Yes, am aware of Splashtop (not heard of Jump) - I'll check it out. I don't actually like TeamViewer or their principles but when you're so involved and tied up with an ecosystem, changing when something isn't broken is often too much hard work.



There's no reason for kids nowadays not to be be productive with a decent smartphone. Again, you might not see OP doing it but there's really no reason not to. A decent tablet would also be viable in place of a laptop - then again, large sized phones or "phablets" are already commonplace.
plewis0011/12/2017 11:07

There’s quite a lot to a computer other than ‘how much RAM it has’ so your …There’s quite a lot to a computer other than ‘how much RAM it has’ so your machine being slow doesn’t tell you anything about why.Well from someone who uses one, it’s plenty fast enough, probably faster than yours as I’m going to assume from the vagueness of your comment you have a slow mechanical hard disk and not a low latency eMMC or SSD.


Its a deal studio XPS top of the range at the time. You can have it for £100!
justicesj13 m ago

Its a deal studio XPS top of the range at the time. You can have it for …Its a deal studio XPS top of the range at the time. You can have it for £100!


So that would be the 1340 or 1640 (maybe the 1645) then? I had one, it had a Core 2 Duo (or i5 1st gen) and had known throttling issues under load. I sent it back to Dell, couldn't deal with how slow it got.
plewis0011/12/2017 20:53

I actually use a Retina MacBook and Surface Pro 3 normally but as I don't …I actually use a Retina MacBook and Surface Pro 3 normally but as I don't like just tossing them in a bag when I'm commuting to work so I have the Lenovo which is far more robust and cheaper.Few people in this thread have actually owned them but just love to be 'IT experts' quoting rubbish like 'you must have 4GB of RAM'. I also never said, 'don't install Windows Updates', do you want to make anything else up?This is clearly not designed for gaming or running loads of heavy media apps on but since you have such a grasp of what a teenager would do, I suggest you be more helpful and find a better PC for them for similar money.


Lol. I see day in and day out what is good and isn’t good equipment. The important thing with equipment is that it meets the users needs, again as the OP states it’s for a kid, I know what kids do on PC’s/laptops and this is complete garbage for what they want to do on them. If you use it as a cheap throw around that’s your call. The memory thing is other people’s suggestion about keeping the memory as clear as you have done hence the plural nature of my addressing of the subject.

My post was helpful in stating this is unsuitable for the requirement, your post wasn’t as it was centred around your personal requirements and took it as a personal attack when I said it’s not suitable for the OPs stated use case.

I’d suggest you be more helpful with your IT knowledge and consider advising people correctly there are too many know it all end users that give rubbish advice leaving IT to pick up the pieces.
cmdr_elito12/12/2017 04:58

Lol. I see day in and day out what is good and isn’t good equipment. The i …Lol. I see day in and day out what is good and isn’t good equipment. The important thing with equipment is that it meets the users needs, again as the OP states it’s for a kid, I know what kids do on PC’s/laptops and this is complete garbage for what they want to do on them. If you use it as a cheap throw around that’s your call. The memory thing is other people’s suggestion about keeping the memory as clear as you have done hence the plural nature of my addressing of the subject.My post was helpful in stating this is unsuitable for the requirement, your post wasn’t as it was centred around your personal requirements and took it as a personal attack when I said it’s not suitable for the OPs stated use case.I’d suggest you be more helpful with your IT knowledge and consider advising people correctly there are too many know it all end users that give rubbish advice leaving IT to pick up the pieces.


Tell yourself whatever you need to - you made an assumption about having low standards and what the OP wants.

Given it’s the second machine like this they’ve bought for their children (bought not ‘intending to buy’), it looks as though it does fit the bill - the kids haven’t run away from home because it’s so terrible and the deal hasn’t been voted into freezing oblivion.

Everyone wants things like a Dell XPS 13 or an Apple MacBook Pro but not everyone has a limitless budget.

Clearly you think your own advice is correct and more important.
Soooooooo, I guess this has stirred up a bit of a 50/50 debate about what use, if any, this laptop is?

As I previously stated, I got my daughter one last year and she hasn't had any problems with it whatsoever. She does her homework on it and watches youtube etc. I would agree with the comments regarding gaming, but that's not what I bought it for. The kids have a PS4 to play on if they want to game or even, at a push, use my old Xbox 360 or N64!!

It arrived yesterday and I've had a quick look at it and I'm happy with it, I'm sure my boy will be too. The only reason he is getting a laptop for Christmas (amongst other things) is because it's this price. If it was £200 I wouldn't buy it, as it's £129 I felt it was priced correctly for what it is hence why I bought it.
I really can't see people still talking about this. It's cheap it's works fine for kids my 8 year old daughter got one she loves it. It's not fast but it gets job done.

It works fine on YouTube playing roadblocks and browsing. Hers is 2 years old runs win 10 just the same as this one.
Daughter has this laptop, it's very very slow even when wiped and made new, she's 9.
Good deal, except for the 32gb, not really enough storage space; although I'm sure that celeron + 2gb + eMMC + windows 10 will make a decently fast combination for light use
Considering the horrendous specs on this machine, it surely can't be considered a deal?

A big steaming pile this.

Colder than a witches tiddy.
plewis0012th Dec

Tell yourself whatever you need to - you made an assumption about having …Tell yourself whatever you need to - you made an assumption about having low standards and what the OP wants.Given it’s the second machine like this they’ve bought for their children (bought not ‘intending to buy’), it looks as though it does fit the bill - the kids haven’t run away from home because it’s so terrible and the deal hasn’t been voted into freezing oblivion.Everyone wants things like a Dell XPS 13 or an Apple MacBook Pro but not everyone has a limitless budget.Clearly you think your own advice is correct and more important.


Yawn...
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