*Confirmed it works!* Nokia 8 128GB (6GB RAM) Glossy Blue SIM-free £369.99 (requires SIM cancellation) - CPW
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*Confirmed it works!* Nokia 8 128GB (6GB RAM) Glossy Blue SIM-free £369.99 (requires SIM cancellation) - CPW

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Found 11th Mar
A good idea to bear this warning in mind - hotukdeals.com/com…098

**EDIT: Wait for my update tomorrow. Until then, I am expiring this to avoid any confusions**

**EDIT 2: Just got off the phone and cancelled SIMO with no problems at all - call 0800 977 7337 and speak to o2 directly. The only difference to the 1m contracts is that I had to put the sim into a phone to confirm**

I went for the o2 12month SIM for £36.

Will cancel SIM immediately like I did with the P10 Lite and should theoretically be left with the phone for £369.99. Expecting delivery tomorrow, so fingers crossed.
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On second thoughts, this is a great price for the 128gb.
muckilla38 s ago

Should of just bought it off them sim free for £349.99 but you payed more …Should of just bought it off them sim free for £349.99 but you payed more and had to do more work


but this is the 128GB version not the 64GB version which is £350
cough3211 m ago

but this is the 128GB version not the 64GB version which is £350


Yeah mixed that up after double checking there oops.
muckilla1 m ago

Should of just bought it off them sim free for £349.99 but you payed more …Should of just bought it off them sim free for £349.99 but you payed more and had to do more work


To be fair to the Op, the sim free version is 64gb,this one is 128gb
Would you actually be able to cancel a twelve month contract and keep the phone
I'll find out tomorrow. assuming ti works like o2 refresh, then yes it should be possible. if nto i will simply return the phone
Op it is not worth the risk keep us updated after you've done the cancellation....
bullerbug4 m ago

Would you actually be able to cancel a twelve month contract and keep the …Would you actually be able to cancel a twelve month contract and keep the phone


That was my first thought too... it’s not a rolling SIM only. It explicitly says 12 months so surely you’re paying £369.99 + 12x £36 = £801.99

OP, can you advise?
Edited by: "plewis00" 11th Mar
ok will keep you guys updated. you have 14days to change your mind on online purchases anyways so I'm not too worried. Unsure when it will arrive tomorrow, but will update as soon as i can
cough3211 m ago

ok will keep you guys updated. you have 14days to change your mind on …ok will keep you guys updated. you have 14days to change your mind on online purchases anyways so I'm not too worried. Unsure when it will arrive tomorrow, but will update as soon as i can


Yes but what made you think it you can just cancel it and keep the phone? Unless we’ve all missed something.
plewis003 m ago

Yes but what made you think it you can just cancel it and keep the phone? …Yes but what made you think it you can just cancel it and keep the phone? Unless we’ve all missed something.


hotukdeals.com/dea…953 - because of this 1month thing. hoping it works with 12months too. maybe i am being too ambitious, but like I said, will confirm tomorrow how it goes.
Why has it been expired before waiting for the chap to confirm
TellyLover32 m ago

Why has it been expired before waiting for the chap to confirm


did that myself. best to avoid frustration for others if it's not possible. in hindsight, should have tried it tomorrow before in posting \;0
You can't cancel 12 or 24 month contracts and then just keep the handset. I think i saw the Samsung S9 for no upfront fee and £49 a month... So using your method I could get that offer, cancel immediately and be left with a free S9!
Pretty certain it only works with one month contracts, not sure how much this is with one of them though
jazzuk7773 h, 47 m ago

Pretty certain it only works with one month contracts, not sure how much …Pretty certain it only works with one month contracts, not sure how much this is with one of them though


£429.99 +£15 30 day sim.Go via TCB/Quidco for £50 cashback .Hopefully £380 after cashback.
Will watch OP's progress on the 12 month route.
cough3218 h, 22 m ago

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/huawei-p10-lite-bundle-with-1mth-o2-simo-costing-15-total-cost-15499-carphonewarehouse-2896953 - because of this 1month thing. hoping it works with 12months too. maybe i am being too ambitious, but like I said, will confirm tomorrow how it goes.


Well, yes. But you pay the first month on a 1-month then you’re out of contract so there is no additional payments. On a 12-month, it’s, you guessed it, 12-months you have to pay as that’s the minimum term. So it will be £801.99 as I showed you above.

I think you need to remove this deal.
plewis0010 h, 7 m ago

Well, yes. But you pay the first month on a 1-month then you’re out of c …Well, yes. But you pay the first month on a 1-month then you’re out of contract so there is no additional payments. On a 12-month, it’s, you guessed it, 12-months you have to pay as that’s the minimum term. So it will be £801.99 as I showed you above.I think you need to remove this deal.


I didn't pay the 1-month term as didn't many others. I've already expired it. i think you need to wait for me to test it. i knew it was risky when i ordered it, just sit and wait for confirmation either way.
cough32112 m ago

I didn't pay the 1-month term as didn't many others. I've already expired …I didn't pay the 1-month term as didn't many others. I've already expired it. i think you need to wait for me to test it. i knew it was risky when i ordered it, just sit and wait for confirmation either way.


Ok but a 1 month SIM only just isn’t the same as 12 month is it? With the 1 month it’s more likely the phone isn’t subsidized so the SIM doesn’t matter.

With a 12 month it is quite obviously subsidised so they would never let you immediately cancel it, otherwise how is this different to deals with free handsets and trying to cancel those?
plewis0028 m ago

Ok but a 1 month SIM only just isn’t the same as 12 month is it? With the 1 …Ok but a 1 month SIM only just isn’t the same as 12 month is it? With the 1 month it’s more likely the phone isn’t subsidized so the SIM doesn’t matter.With a 12 month it is quite obviously subsidised so they would never let you immediately cancel it, otherwise how is this different to deals with free handsets and trying to cancel those?


even with a 1month it is obviously subsidised. it was the reason CPW refused to cancel my sim without the phone when I had p10 Lite. So I had to go and ask O2 again to cancel my sim.

the credit agreement you go through to get the contract (1mnth or 12) usually gets them some sort of fee/commission in earnings. that's why they then discount the phone.

but with regards to this phone specifically, the phone is separate (370) and then the contract for SIMO is 36p/m (confirmed over the phone with CS as well) so it is possible theoretically to treat and cancel like the p10 deal or any o2 refresh deal. I know someone tried to make a snarky comment about an S9 earlier, but in their example the monthly cost included both the phone and the sim. this one doesn't. and o2 doesn't own the phone, CPW does and I bought it off them directly (go to main product page and select SIM-free, you will see that the phone in this deal is a SIM-free with a discount for taking out a separate SIMO with it) so as far as o2 is concerned, I'll only be cancelling my contract with them.
cough3211 h, 43 m ago

even with a 1month it is obviously subsidised. it was the reason CPW …even with a 1month it is obviously subsidised. it was the reason CPW refused to cancel my sim without the phone when I had p10 Lite. So I had to go and ask O2 again to cancel my sim.the credit agreement you go through to get the contract (1mnth or 12) usually gets them some sort of fee/commission in earnings. that's why they then discount the phone. but with regards to this phone specifically, the phone is separate (370) and then the contract for SIMO is 36p/m (confirmed over the phone with CS as well) so it is possible theoretically to treat and cancel like the p10 deal or any o2 refresh deal. I know someone tried to make a snarky comment about an S9 earlier, but in their example the monthly cost included both the phone and the sim. this one doesn't. and o2 doesn't own the phone, CPW does and I bought it off them directly (go to main product page and select SIM-free, you will see that the phone in this deal is a SIM-free with a discount for taking out a separate SIMO with it) so as far as o2 is concerned, I'll only be cancelling my contract with them.


It’s a lot of ifs and buts but why didn’t you just buy it with a 1-month SIM instead. With a 1-month it is not heavily subsidised as you might do exactly what you did and cancel it immediately. They’ll get maybe 50% of your 1-month revenue in commission on 1-month SIM.

But when you go to cancel the 12-month, O2 expects a 12 month term so what do you expect will happen?

Please report back but this is more likely going to have been a giant waste of your time.
happy buying everyone
I would not recommend trying this. CPW can still bill you for the full handset cost once they become aware that the contract has been cancelled.
Edited by: "seinman" 12th Mar
seinman1 m ago

I would not recomment trying this. CPW can still bill you for the full …I would not recomment trying this. CPW can still bill you for the full handset cost once they become aware that the contract has been cancelled.


was not aware of this. I won't open the phone when I get home then and wait a bit to make sure. thanks for the heads up
cough3214 h, 42 m ago

was not aware of this. I won't open the phone when I get home then and …was not aware of this. I won't open the phone when I get home then and wait a bit to make sure. thanks for the heads up



I would just check with them. The subsidised cost of the handset is calculated based on the commission that they receive from the network for the contract. If the contract is cancelled then they, of course, receive no commission and have no basis for subsidising the handset price.
Edited by: "seinman" 12th Mar
seinman10 m ago

I would just check with them. The subsidised cost of the handset is …I would just check with them. The subsidised cost of the handset is calculated based on the commission that they receive from the network for the contract. If the contract is cancelled then they, of course, receive no commission and have no basis for subsidising the handset price.


I did yesterday, I'll call them again later in the evening. afaik, they get commission from the credit provider/underwriter and they are concerned with only getting a credit check as part of their business before commission is paid. that's why o2 refresh works, because o2 wouldn't pay themselves commission, I'm expecting CPW to be the same.
too risky lmao
cough32112th Mar

I did yesterday, I'll call them again later in the evening. afaik, they …I did yesterday, I'll call them again later in the evening. afaik, they get commission from the credit provider/underwriter and they are concerned with only getting a credit check as part of their business before commission is paid. that's why o2 refresh works, because o2 wouldn't pay themselves commission, I'm expecting CPW to be the same.


So what happened then
plewis004 h, 20 m ago

So what happened then


spent two hours on hold and thought F it. I still have the phone with me (sealed), no extra charge as of yet. no communication from CPW asking it back. Just waiting to see if they do request it back.

someone else did the same thing I did a few weeks before me - hotukdeals.com/dea…e=3
cough32145 m ago

spent two hours on hold and thought F it. I still have the phone with me …spent two hours on hold and thought F it. I still have the phone with me (sealed), no extra charge as of yet. no communication from CPW asking it back. Just waiting to see if they do request it back. someone else did the same thing I did a few weeks before me - https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/google-pixel-2-all-colours-128gb-on-sim-free-sim-only-deal-519-carphone-warehouse-2896429?page=3#comment-33440522


Ok. Thanks for the response.

I’ll tell you my thoughts: the phone is worth more than £369.99 so it makes no sense CPW just letting you cancel a 12 month contract that they get commission from O2 on (or ongoing revenue) intentionally. It is entirely possible they are so disorganised they don’t notice and it’s another department but it’s certainly not the norm nor a deal (I have been in a situation where I 14-dayed a Vodafone handset and they never asked for it back) - if this happens to be cancelled then that’s what I think has occurred. O2 Refresh is another story as the phone and plan are technically two different costs. You will always be at risk of them billing you the cost of the handset which legally they are entitled to do - they would not be entitled to do this if it were a 1-month rolling. I think that’s the essential point.

As to someone saying get an S9 free on a 24m and cancel, yes it was tongue-in-cheek but it’s just a more extreme version of exactly what you are trying to do, so if it was possible then he should be able to get an S9 and cancel the airtime. The upfront cost is irrelevant.
cough32112 h, 1 m ago

spent two hours on hold and thought F it. I still have the phone with me …spent two hours on hold and thought F it. I still have the phone with me (sealed), no extra charge as of yet. no communication from CPW asking it back. Just waiting to see if they do request it back. someone else did the same thing I did a few weeks before me - https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/google-pixel-2-all-colours-128gb-on-sim-free-sim-only-deal-519-carphone-warehouse-2896429?page=3#comment-33440522


Well done mate!
So it did work or it didn't?
@cough321 just wondering, have you still not heard anything from CPW?
Pezer22 h, 35 m ago

@cough321 just wondering, have you still not heard anything from CPW?


It can take weeks/months before clawback occurs.
Pezer17th Mar

@cough321 just wondering, have you still not heard anything from CPW?


still nothing

yiu17th Mar

So it did work or it didn't?


cancellation of sim separately worked. now waiting for any future charges/communication from CPW for phone
cough32122 h, 52 m ago

still nothingcancellation of sim separately worked. now waiting for any …still nothingcancellation of sim separately worked. now waiting for any future charges/communication from CPW for phone


Look, given the amount of work you put in, I hope it works for you. But the premise of this deal has basically been 'rely on defrauding CPW and them being too lazy to notice', which I admit is actually looking more and more likely but it's not a given.
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