CONNEKT GEAR  27-2000  2 Gang UK Switched Sockets with 2x USB Charging Ports  & £7.80 delivered @ cpcfarnell
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CONNEKT GEAR 27-2000 2 Gang UK Switched Sockets with 2x USB Charging Ports & £7.80 delivered @ cpcfarnell

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Found 25th Mar
This power/USB charging wallplate allows you to power/charge 2x USB devices and 2 other electrical items from one double wallplate.
  • The USB charging sockets are compatible with many devices that require charging via a USB port
  • USB sockets are limited at 2A, 5V combined
  • If current exceeds the limit, it will automatically trip off to protect your device
  • Surge and spike protected
  • Features 2x switchable UK 3-pin power sockets
  • Will fit any standard back box (minimum depth of 25mm)
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ianmcleod1 h, 45 m ago

Checking the link 2A combined. Totally useless for anything more than …Checking the link 2A combined. Totally useless for anything more than basic phone.


Many, many devices will be put on charge at night and left to charge overnight. 1A will be fine for that.

Most PCs only output .5A but that never seems to worry people for charging devices and a lot of devices will come with a sub 1a charger anyway. Just because you can supply more current it does not mean the device will take it and charge faster.

Sure some things need need a high ampage to start to charge, but for the average household that will be two or three devices in the entire house.
These sockets are useless. In my line of work ive seen loads of these installed and i can categorically say they are prone to fail and even burn out. Buy something else. Spend a bit more, you get what you pay for.
Edited by: "HyperLuminal" 26th Mar
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Are these easy to diy
wakkaday14 m ago

Are these easy to diy


Assuming you can change a socket, no problem
2A shared between both sockets, or 1A on each?
Checking the link 2A combined. Totally useless for anything more than basic phone.
Can you get any of these sockets yet that support Power Delivery and/or Quick Charge over the USB ports?
edanfalls1 m ago

Can you get any of these sockets yet that support Power Delivery and/or …Can you get any of these sockets yet that support Power Delivery and/or Quick Charge over the USB ports?


Keen to know too.
I've seen these exact ones on Amazon and there are lots of reviews saying they burn out
wakkaday1 h, 13 m ago

Are these easy to diy


just need to make sure you cut the power, after that it's just 2 screws in the front and 3 terminals inside where you remove the cables from the old socket and put it in the new one
Redbadgers16 m ago

I've seen these exact ones on Amazon and there are lots of reviews saying …I've seen these exact ones on Amazon and there are lots of reviews saying they burn out


Yep....only 2 amp and people try to charge bigger us chargables than a basic phone... get at least the 3.1 amp like BG make.
I don't like the position of the USB ports, low current too.
manowarbruno34 m ago

just need to make sure you cut the power, after that it's just 2 screws in …just need to make sure you cut the power, after that it's just 2 screws in the front and 3 terminals inside where you remove the cables from the old socket and put it in the new one


I would already have the wires etc I need right , and would just add to this new panel
Depending on the version of quick charge (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quick_Charge) it looks like 3 Amps or more is a minimum you'll want to settle for. The real question is, on the 3.1 Amp sockets it that a permanent 1.55A per socket or 3.1A on 1st connected device then 1.55A?
wakkaday20 m ago

I would already have the wires etc I need right , and would just add to …I would already have the wires etc I need right , and would just add to this new panel


Yep, standard socket terminals from that point of view
wakkaday33 m ago

I would already have the wires etc I need right , and would just add to …I would already have the wires etc I need right , and would just add to this new panel


Not necessarily - despite them saying they will fit standard back boxes you may find you need a deeper recess.....
Edited by: "gari189" 25th Mar
gari1897 m ago

Not necessarily - despite them saying they will fit standard back boxes …Not necessarily - despite them saying they will fit standard back boxes you may find you need a deeper recess.....


Fits a 25mm back box (apparantly)
Edited by: "ThanksForThat" 25th Mar
Pretty useless usb ports on sockets unless you use chromecast/ firestick for usb power, too slow for charging . More and more smartphones/tablets have quickcharge tech.
Edited by: "FAMILYGUY" 25th Mar
Harley.Roadking1 h, 20 m ago

Yep....only 2 amp and people try to charge bigger us chargables than a …Yep....only 2 amp and people try to charge bigger us chargables than a basic phone... get at least the 3.1 amp like BG make.


Just be aware that the 3.1amp is between the 2 ports and that the maximum power charging spec for USB is 1.5A.

Some devices certainly can go higher (2.1A on the iPAd for example), but it's bespoke to that charger. This 3.1A will not charge them at their fastest rate.

Separate to that, you also have technology like QuickCharge which needs the correct charger to work correctly for the fastest result.


The one you've linked is better for sure, but just be aware that it still won't match most of the modern dedicated chargers for speed. It's limited by the basic USB2 charging spec. Bring on USB-C!
ianmcleod1 h, 45 m ago

Checking the link 2A combined. Totally useless for anything more than …Checking the link 2A combined. Totally useless for anything more than basic phone.


Many, many devices will be put on charge at night and left to charge overnight. 1A will be fine for that.

Most PCs only output .5A but that never seems to worry people for charging devices and a lot of devices will come with a sub 1a charger anyway. Just because you can supply more current it does not mean the device will take it and charge faster.

Sure some things need need a high ampage to start to charge, but for the average household that will be two or three devices in the entire house.
These sockets are useless. In my line of work ive seen loads of these installed and i can categorically say they are prone to fail and even burn out. Buy something else. Spend a bit more, you get what you pay for.
Edited by: "HyperLuminal" 26th Mar
Halloway2 h, 17 m ago

If you can buy more than one and collect from a store, these ones from …If you can buy more than one and collect from a store, these ones from Screwfix are £7.50 each. The USB port current is also higher at 3.1A.LAP 13A 2G SP SWITCHED SOCKET + 3.1A 2G USB CHARGER WHITE


much better
HyperLuminal6 h, 26 m ago

These sockets are useless. In my line of work ive seen lpads of these …These sockets are useless. In my line of work ive seen lpads of these installed and i can categorically say they are prone to fail and even burn out. Buy something else. Spend a bit more, you get what you pay for.


My experiences as well, although i still have not found any reliable ones. Any thougjts?
electrical safety website , see link, says these types of sockets are a fire and or electric shock risk.

“Whilst most of us will appreciate the convenience of having such items installed within our homes, Electrical Safety First believes that the use of low cost, unbranded products might present the risk of electric shock and/or fire.

This is because our initial findings revealed that the extra‑low voltage parts of the USB power supply were not always suitably segregated and/or electrically separated from the low voltage (230 V) parts of the accessory and/or, in the case of 13 A sockets, of the fixed wiring.”

electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/ele…ts/
Edited by: "lumsdot" 26th Mar
wakkaday wrote:
Are these easy to diy

Too easy to DIY ..., and consequentially easy to end up with a broken ring final, and a 32A breaker protecting a cable rated at 18A to 25A (dependant on how the cable is mounted / where it runs) = potential fire risk. If you don't understand what I have said here and the possible ramifications of your ring main circuit being broken as you force the cables into the back box, then please get a qualified electrician to replace the socket faceplate and ask them to issue a minor works certificate which confirms the mains ring final is still a completed ring. You as a DIY person will not know if the ring final is broken just by plugging an appliance in. I wish I had a £100 each time I find broken ring final in DIY replaced 13A socket faceplate with USB charge points, I'd be a rich man. 13A sockets with USB ports are always the first place I look for a 32A ring final break, and I would say 4 out of 5 times is where I find it. DIY with electrics can be a recipe for a potential disaster.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_circuit

33514765-z2854.jpg


Edit : added web link to wiki on ring final circuits, and screenshot from wiki of known limitations, possible non user aware fault conditions, like a break in the ring circuit.
Edited by: "rok263" 26th Mar
Supposedly these void home insurance? It’s what I was told my an electrician I don’t know how true it is though
asifthebasif23 m ago

Supposedly these void home insurance? It’s what I was told my an e …Supposedly these void home insurance? It’s what I was told my an electrician I don’t know how true it is though


I'd be interested to know this too. Possibly because the USB port is always live but I'd be surprised if insurance companies have this as a clause yet
kanenas3 h, 53 m ago

My experiences as well, although i still have not found any reliable ones. …My experiences as well, although i still have not found any reliable ones. Any thougjts?


The pricier ones from Screwfix do just fine.
Our house is being rewired now. I deliberately didn't ask for these as they are not future proof. Various quick charge standards, USB-c, PD, etc are all unsupported by these sockets and that's just today's standards. Also not sure I likes the idea of cheap Chinese electronics wired permanently into the mains (with what fuse...)? Just buy a decent charger. Can always throw it away when it's obsolete or stops working, unlike these!
Gorskar34 m ago

Our house is being rewired now. I deliberately didn't ask for these as …Our house is being rewired now. I deliberately didn't ask for these as they are not future proof. Various quick charge standards, USB-c, PD, etc are all unsupported by these sockets and that's just today's standards. Also not sure I likes the idea of cheap Chinese electronics wired permanently into the mains (with what fuse...)? Just buy a decent charger. Can always throw it away when it's obsolete or stops working, unlike these!


My reason why I don't want usb points in the sockets. I just want a standard socket and I'll attach a quality charger into the socket.
wakkaday14 h, 55 m ago

Are these easy to diy



If you trust a deal forum to answer a life/death question then you probably shouldn't try changing this.
But if you feel brave be sure to use plenty of water on the screws.
Gorskar56 m ago

Our house is being rewired now. I deliberately didn't ask for these as …Our house is being rewired now. I deliberately didn't ask for these as they are not future proof. Various quick charge standards, USB-c, PD, etc are all unsupported by these sockets and that's just today's standards. Also not sure I likes the idea of cheap Chinese electronics wired permanently into the mains (with what fuse...)? Just buy a decent charger. Can always throw it away when it's obsolete or stops working, unlike these!


I am in exactly the same situation. Speccing a rewire in a restoration. Every professional I have asked says dont use these. I am specifying standard sockets and will use a higher quality charger (that will have a fuse and can be turned off). And I can take it on holiday with me. Wouldnt tough these.
Avoid ,Had this exact unit from CPC just under 2 years ago, it failed & tripped my 32 amp breaker during the night when charging my tablet. On taking it apart (once removed) it had blown its self up, all black inside etc, no proper fuse on the board, so would never use anything like this again ..
asifthebasif6 h, 34 m ago

Supposedly these void home insurance? It’s what I was told my an e …Supposedly these void home insurance? It’s what I was told my an electrician I don’t know how true it is though


Absolute rubbish. Don’t know who your electrician is but they’ve spun you some proper BS there
jenmumof56 h, 16 m ago

I'd be interested to know this too. Possibly because the USB port is …I'd be interested to know this too. Possibly because the USB port is always live but I'd be surprised if insurance companies have this as a clause yet


There are many sockets which are always live and will cause issues if you’re stupid enough to stick a screwdriver or something into the socket. E.g a shaver socket or standard socket without a switch. What about appliances that are plugged in with the socket live, therefore making the appliance ‘live’ too. That doesn’t make your insurance invalid. USB port gives such low output compared to a socket too. These certainly don’t invalidate your insurance if fitted correctly and by a competent person
rok2638 h, 57 m ago

wakkaday wrote:Are these easy to diyToo easy to DIY ..., and …wakkaday wrote:Are these easy to diyToo easy to DIY ..., and consequentially easy to end up with a broken ring final, and a 32A breaker protecting a cable rated at 18A to 25A (dependant on how the cable is mounted / where it runs) = potential fire risk. If you don't understand what I have said here and the possible ramifications of your ring main circuit being broken as you force the cables into the back box, then please get a qualified electrician to replace the socket faceplate and ask them to issue a minor works certificate which confirms the mains ring final is still a completed ring. You as a DIY person will not know if the ring final is broken just by plugging an appliance in. I wish I had a £100 each time I find broken ring final in DIY replaced 13A socket faceplate with USB charge points, I'd be a rich man. 13A sockets with USB ports are always the first place I look for a 32A ring final break, and I would say 4 out of 5 times is where I find it. DIY with electrics can be a recipe for a potential disaster. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_circuit[Image] Edit : added web link to wiki on ring final circuits, and screenshot from wiki of known limitations, possible non user aware fault conditions, like a break in the ring circuit.


A minor works certificate does not confirm if a circuit is a ring and an electrician is not required to issue certificates for replacing accessories anyway.

If he just asks the electrician to perform a simple ring continuity test at the socket before he replaces it that will do.

If the home owner then decides to pay the electrician to further investigate why the ring is broken afterwards that's up to him.
wakkaday22 h, 47 m ago

I would already have the wires etc I need right , and would just add to …I would already have the wires etc I need right , and would just add to this new panel


Note of caution. Pattresses boxes, which is what these screw onto, can come in different depths. If you have a shallow pattress, and these need a deeper pattress (not saying they do), then it gets a bit harder, because you may have to cut out more of the wall behind it to put in the deeper pattress box (unless of course it is a plastic surface mounted box).

Not all sockets switches etc are the same depth. Dimmer switches for example often need a deep pattress box. There is no side on view of these sockets, so I can't tell whether the innards for the USB bit drive any additional depth on the socket.

Just worth being aware of is all I'm saying.
Edited by: "ghostm4n" 26th Mar
gari18919 h, 12 m ago

Not necessarily - despite them saying they will fit standard back boxes …Not necessarily - despite them saying they will fit standard back boxes you may find you need a deeper recess.....


LOL, just typed out a lengthy reply, and then I see that you have already stated it.. Dohhh
rok263 wrote:
wakkaday wrote:Are these easy to diy


Response to HyperLuminal

"A minor works certificate does not confirm if a circuit is a ring and an electrician is not required to issue certificates for replacing accessories anyway."

But you as the homeowner / client can ASK for a ring continuity test to be completed and for the outcome of that to test to be recorded on a minor works certificate. Just because a minor works certificate is not required for replacing accessories doesn't mean one can't be issued.

"If he just asks the electrician to perform a simple ring continuity test at the socket before he replaces it that will do."

I would suggest a simple ring continuity test is completed both before and very importantly AFTER the 13A socket faceplate has been
replaced. It's good to know that the ring has continuity before you replace something, it's it vitality important to know that there is still continuity afterwards as well.

"If the home owner then decides to pay the electrician to further investigate why the ring is broken afterwards that's up to him."

As long as the homeowner is informed of the ramifications of an incomplete ring, and if they don't want it to be investigated (by me) then I would ask them to sign something to that effect, and / or document it somewhere, send them an email, document it in some way so that I have made the liability for that circuit defect the homeowners and not mine.
asifthebasif26th Mar

Supposedly these void home insurance? It’s what I was told my an e …Supposedly these void home insurance? It’s what I was told my an electrician I don’t know how true it is though


I suspect only if an incompetent person installed one that clearly was responsible for burning down a house, or electrocuting someone....probably the same as any incompetent DIY carried out... even then is there any record of insurance not paying out I wonder?. Electricians probably don't like these because there's more chance it'll fail and they'll be called back whereas a regular wall socket probably lasts 15 years or more so no hassle for the electrician.
Edited by: "spannerzone" 27th Mar
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