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Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 16GB (2×8gb) 3600 MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Kit £104.47 delivered
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Posted 6th Aug 2019

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Bad deal, terrible CAS latency, just get a crucial ballistix micron e-die kit it and get it to 3600mhz cl16. Cheaper than this too.
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It says Ryzen tuned, it’d still work fine at the same speeds with Intel chips right?
fishyz06/08/2019 14:41

It says Ryzen tuned, it’d still work fine at the same speeds with Intel c …It says Ryzen tuned, it’d still work fine at the same speeds with Intel chips right?



Yep
fishyz06/08/2019 14:41

It says Ryzen tuned, it’d still work fine at the same speeds with Intel c …It says Ryzen tuned, it’d still work fine at the same speeds with Intel chips right?


Yeah, this ram will work with Intel chips. The new ryzen chips perform well with higher speed ran hence scan advertising this ram towards ryzen cpu owners
fishyz06/08/2019 14:41

It says Ryzen tuned, it’d still work fine at the same speeds with Intel c …It says Ryzen tuned, it’d still work fine at the same speeds with Intel chips right?


Yep.

Poor deal tho. It's been much cheaper
I'd love to know realistically how this compares to the Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3200 MHz I picked up from here last month if anyone knows? Had a look online but can't seem to find much unfortunately
fishyz06/08/2019 15:05

With those speeds?


Yep. Been watching ddr4 prices for ages. Loads of cheaper deals of the same ram and the white version too
AMasters00706/08/2019 15:09

I'd love to know realistically how this compares to the Crucial Ballistix …I'd love to know realistically how this compares to the Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3200 MHz I picked up from here last month if anyone knows? Had a look online but can't seem to find much unfortunately


Probably a couple fps difference in 1080p games with ryzen. Even smaller difference if gaming with Intel. You could probably overclock your ram to those speeds.
Is it worth paying much more for CL18 3600 over CL16 3200 or CL15 3000? Wouldn't they have similar performance?
I have 3000 MHz 2x8gb... is it that much of a difference?
John_Welsh06/08/2019 15:10

Yep. Been watching ddr4 prices for ages. Loads of cheaper deals of the …Yep. Been watching ddr4 prices for ages. Loads of cheaper deals of the same ram and the white version too


This is the cheapest I've seen 3600MHz and RGB. Definitely hasn't been "much cheaper" unless you're referring to 3200MHz or under.
Edited by: "Copps" 6th Aug 2019
Mechtup06/08/2019 15:38

I have 3000 MHz 2x8gb... is it that much of a difference?



It wouldn't be worth the upgrade unless you plan on selling your old ram. It also depends if you're on intel or 3rd gen Ryzen. 3rd Gen (3000 series) ryzen gains a significant performance increase but before that it's not super noticeable.
It's probably not worth the investment.
AMasters00706/08/2019 15:09

I'd love to know realistically how this compares to the Crucial Ballistix …I'd love to know realistically how this compares to the Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3200 MHz I picked up from here last month if anyone knows? Had a look online but can't seem to find much unfortunately


Read my comment above. Definitely wouldn't be worth buying to replace if you weren't returning the old ram. With Ryzen 3rd gen and gaming you could see a 2-3 FPS increase if I'm not mistaken.
Anyone reckon Amazon will price match this? I've told them about this price so guess I just have to cross my fingers and hope they do.
John_Welsh06/08/2019 15:10

Yep. Been watching ddr4 prices for ages. Loads of cheaper deals of the …Yep. Been watching ddr4 prices for ages. Loads of cheaper deals of the same ram and the white version too


Love to know where. The 3 wise camels have it at 132 at its lowest.

This is a brilliant price.
Bad deal, terrible CAS latency, just get a crucial ballistix micron e-die kit it and get it to 3600mhz cl16. Cheaper than this too.
AMasters00706/08/2019 15:09

I'd love to know realistically how this compares to the Crucial Ballistix …I'd love to know realistically how this compares to the Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3200 MHz I picked up from here last month if anyone knows? Had a look online but can't seem to find much unfortunately

if your ballistix kit has 'AES' in its name then it's micron e-die. This can easily be OCed to 3600mhz+ on Ryzen using Ryzen dram calculator.
Sorry my bad. Thought they were 3200mhz. It's actually a sweet deal
Gabariel06/08/2019 16:50

Bad deal, terrible CAS latency, just get a crucial ballistix micron e-die …Bad deal, terrible CAS latency, just get a crucial ballistix micron e-die kit it and get it to 3600mhz cl16. Cheaper than this too.


this is b-die......
FYI
Please be aware this SKU: CMW16GX4M2Z3600C18
Supports Intel 200 Series,Intel 300 Series,Intel X299,AMD X570.

And this SKU: CMW16GX4M2D3600C18 also on Scans website supports Intel 100 Series,Intel 200 Series,Intel 300 Series,Intel X299,AMD 300 Series,AMD 400 Series,AMD X570

All support details from the CORSAIR website. The latter SKU is newer and about the same price but supports more motherboard chipsets.
Copps06/08/2019 15:40

This is the cheapest I've seen 3600MHz and RGB. Definitely hasn't been …This is the cheapest I've seen 3600MHz and RGB. Definitely hasn't been "much cheaper" unless you're referring to 3200MHz or under.


This X 1000 not sure I've seen a 3600Mhz below 100-120 at all....
donbarney06/08/2019 17:52

this is b-die......


This is definitely not b-die... Samsung b-die does at least 3600mhz cas latency 16 or 3200/14.
Gabariel07/08/2019 00:58

This is definitely not b-die... Samsung b-die does at least 3600mhz cas …This is definitely not b-die... Samsung b-die does at least 3600mhz cas latency 16 or 3200/14.


What is b-die?

I see Overclockers have this at £128.99
overclockers.co.uk/tea…tml


Cas 14 but 3200. Would this not be faster?
There are different memory chip manufacturers. Samsung produces b-die, there are different bins of it and some are regarded as the best for overclocking. I believe b-die is overpriced since you can reach the same or better frequencies with micron e-die (crucial ballistix with 'AES' in model name).

And yes, that would be better. You could probably get 3600/cl16 with it easily.
Edited by: "Gabariel" 7th Aug 2019
Gabariel06/08/2019 16:50

Bad deal, terrible CAS latency, just get a crucial ballistix micron e-die …Bad deal, terrible CAS latency, just get a crucial ballistix micron e-die kit it and get it to 3600mhz cl16. Cheaper than this too.


Sure you did hope you put it on here too
For the avoidance of confusion, 3000MHz CAS15, 3200MHZz CAS16, 3600MHz CAS18 all have the exact same latency (10ms) so no point paying more for higher clock speed at looser CAS.
Edited by: "Par78" 7th Aug 2019
Gabariel06/08/2019 16:51

if your ballistix kit has 'AES' in its name then it's micron e-die. This …if your ballistix kit has 'AES' in its name then it's micron e-die. This can easily be OCed to 3600mhz+ on Ryzen using Ryzen dram calculator.


Gabariel07/08/2019 11:36

There are different memory chip manufacturers. Samsung produces b-die, …There are different memory chip manufacturers. Samsung produces b-die, there are different bins of it and some are regarded as the best for overclocking. I believe b-die is overpriced since you can reach the same or better frequencies with micron e-die (crucial ballistix with 'AES' in model name).And yes, that would be better. You could probably get 3600/cl16 with it easily.


I'll have to double check but I'm sure it is the 'AES' model as it was advertised as being their new improved line with better speeds/tighter timings etc. very useful information thanks for sharing
Par7807/08/2019 14:22

For the avoidance of confusion, 3000MHz CAS15, 3200MHZz CAS16, 3600MHz …For the avoidance of confusion, 3000MHz CAS15, 3200MHZz CAS16, 3600MHz CAS18 all have the exact same latency (10ms) so no point paying more for higher clock speed at looser CAS.


Not strictly true synthetic latency isn't everything, especially with Ryzen. It will vary from processor to processor but with the Infinity Fabric the ram frequency directly affects the inter-core/thread performance so a higher clock with looser timings could actually yield slightly better results, we may only be talking 1-2 fps but for some people that's a lot. As I said though this will depend on your specific processor (which gen etc.) so don't take this as gospel, depending on which gen you have faster ram may actually nerf performance (or not work at all) past a certain point which would be a complete waste of time and money so always research your exact setup, if I've learned anything in my lifetime it's that nothing is ever universal when it comes to computers:
AMasters00707/08/2019 17:09

Not strictly true synthetic latency isn't everything, especially with …Not strictly true synthetic latency isn't everything, especially with Ryzen. It will vary from processor to processor but with the Infinity Fabric the ram frequency directly affects the inter-core/thread performance so a higher clock with looser timings could actually yield slightly better results, we may only be talking 1-2 fps but for some people that's a lot. As I said though this will depend on your specific processor (which gen etc.) so don't take this as gospel, depending on which gen you have faster ram may actually nerf performance (or not work at all) past a certain point which would be a complete waste of time and money so always research your exact setup, if I've learned anything in my lifetime it's that nothing is ever universal when it comes to computers:[Image]


Agreed, but looking at the speeds and timings of all these Corsair RGB Pro kits I think (but may be wrong, happy to be corrected) that you could take a 3000 cl15 set and overclock to at least 3200 cl16, if not even higher, with little effort. They all seem to be the same set with tuned speed/timings to keep the latency fixed, but I maybe I'm oversimplifying.

There was also a very good video by Hardware Unboxed comparing Ryzen 3000 performance against memory speed with XMP and manual timings posted today, well worth a view.
Par7807/08/2019 17:17

Agreed, but looking at the speeds and timings of all these Corsair RGB Pro …Agreed, but looking at the speeds and timings of all these Corsair RGB Pro kits I think (but may be wrong, happy to be corrected) that you could take a 3000 cl15 set and overclock to at least 3200 cl16, if not even higher, with little effort. They all seem to be the same set with tuned speed/timings to keep the latency fixed, but I maybe I'm oversimplifying.There was also a very good video by Hardware Unboxed comparing Ryzen 3000 performance against memory speed with XMP and manual timings posted today, well worth a view.


I haven't had that much experience personally with Corsair ram the last few years but 9 out of 10 times that's certainly what I would expect, with the 3000 kits you may have to open the timings more to reach 3600 for example but with the silicone lottery you might just get lucky and hit the same timings as the 3600 kit out of the box. I remember years ago I had a couple of 1600 Hynix sticks, I can only assume they were mislabelled in the factory or something as they were able to hit better 2400 timings than a G Skill 2400 kit that cost 2/3 times the price iirc, ymmv of course

I'll have a look for that video when I get home thanks for the heads up
Edited by: "AMasters007" 7th Aug 2019
AMasters00707/08/2019 17:39

I haven't had that much experience personally with Corsair ram the last …I haven't had that much experience personally with Corsair ram the last few years but 9 out of 10 times that's certainly what I would expect, with the 3000 kits you may have to open the timings more to reach 3600 for example but with the silicone lottery you might just get lucky and hit the same timings as the 3600 kit out of the box. I remember years ago I had a couple of 1600 Hynix sticks, I can only assume they were mislabelled in the factory or something as they were able to hit better 2400 timings than a G Skill 2400 kit that cost 2/3 times the price iirc, ymmv of course I'll have a look for that video when I get home thanks for the heads up


Hey fellow RAM geeks. I'm after some advice.. I replaced my aging Ivy Bridge desktop last weekend with a Ryzen 3700X. RAM was 3200 C16 Corsair RGB PRO for £89. Is it worth me returning and purchasing this for an extra £15? Aware both are Hynix, however have had no problems posting 3200 using XMP. Cheers
Edited by: "GFunk" 8th Aug 2019
GFunk08/08/2019 12:08

Hey fellow RAM geeks. I'm after some advice.. I replaced my aging Ivy …Hey fellow RAM geeks. I'm after some advice.. I replaced my aging Ivy Bridge desktop last weekend with a Ryzen 3700X. RAM was 3200 C16 Corsair RGB PRO for £89. Is it worth me returning and purchasing this for an extra £15? Aware both are Hynix, however have had no problems posting 3200 using XMP. Cheers


Depends on your use cases but I'd say no. In any case, any gains would be small.

I suggest watching that latest Hardware Unboxed video. Also, you could download the Ryzen RAM configurator (or something along those lines) and having a go at overclocking your RAM before going through the hassle of returning and ordering this.
GFunk08/08/2019 12:08

Hey fellow RAM geeks. I'm after some advice.. I replaced my aging Ivy …Hey fellow RAM geeks. I'm after some advice.. I replaced my aging Ivy Bridge desktop last weekend with a Ryzen 3700X. RAM was 3200 C16 Corsair RGB PRO for £89. Is it worth me returning and purchasing this for an extra £15? Aware both are Hynix, however have had no problems posting 3200 using XMP. Cheers

Hi no definitely not worth the time and effort of returning the RAM you already have, especially with the added cost. The difference would be imperceptible to 99% of people, so unless you're working with massive CAD files for example or you're only using it for gaming and you want to squeeze that last frame out of your machine it's really not worth the hassle. As others have said however if you don't mind a bit of overclocking then you could get similar (if not identical) results for no cost to you whatsoever.
I don't have as much time now as I used to unfortunately but I used to love spending hours overclocking my workstations and friends gaming rigs, some may think it's sad but there's nothing more satisfying than giving your rig a small boost component by component until you've got a machine that's on par (if not superior) to one considerably more expensive. If nothing else the knowledge and experience you gain along the way will be invaluable in the world we live in as technology advances and should any problems arise in the years to come you will save yourself some serious time and money. All this hype around Ryzen gen 3 has finally convinced me it's time to update my gaming rig and I couldn't be more excited
AMasters00709/08/2019 11:49

Hi no definitely not worth the time and effort of returning the RAM you …Hi no definitely not worth the time and effort of returning the RAM you already have, especially with the added cost. The difference would be imperceptible to 99% of people, so unless you're working with massive CAD files for example or you're only using it for gaming and you want to squeeze that last frame out of your machine it's really not worth the hassle. As others have said however if you don't mind a bit of overclocking then you could get similar (if not identical) results for no cost to you whatsoever. I don't have as much time now as I used to unfortunately but I used to love spending hours overclocking my workstations and friends gaming rigs, some may think it's sad but there's nothing more satisfying than giving your rig a small boost component by component until you've got a machine that's on par (if not superior) to one considerably more expensive. If nothing else the knowledge and experience you gain along the way will be invaluable in the world we live in as technology advances and should any problems arise in the years to come you will save yourself some serious time and money. All this hype around Ryzen gen 3 has finally convinced me it's time to update my gaming rig and I couldn't be more excited


Thanks guys

Really appreciate the comments. I will keep my 3200s in that case.

Yeah - I've just done the same with my aging 3570K/780Ti. Keeping the same gfx until black Friday and maybe I can grab a deal on a 2080Ti
Edited by: "GFunk" 11th Aug 2019
Down to £99.98
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