Cross Edge 26 Inch Bike - Men's 24 speed, hydraulic Brakes. Argos Outlet £153.99 @ Ebay
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Cross Edge 26 Inch Bike - Men's 24 speed, hydraulic Brakes. Argos Outlet £153.99 @ Ebay

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Found 3rd Nov 2014
Not the best make on earth but most probably the best spec for the price and with a 3 year warranty.

Aluminium frame.
24 gears with Rapid fire shifters.
Shimano gears.
Shimano RD-TX51 rear derailleur.
Front hydraulic disc and rear hydraulic disc brakes.
Front suspension.
Suntour V4 Alloy Crown forks.
Weight fully assembled 19kg.
18 inch frame size.
18 inch wheel size.
26 to 32 inch inside leg measurements.
Mountain bike style tyres.
Double-wall rims.
Quick-release front wheel.
Minimal assembly.
Manufacturer's 3 year limited hardware guarantee; tyres and tubes are excluded from the guarantee.

89 Comments

19KG!, So you'll be pushing a 41.8Lb. bike...... Blimey.

good luck keeping the cheap hydraulic disc brakes tuned...

Original Poster

19KG is boxed weight. (presumably as I have a cross bike for my wife and Argos said it was 18kg, its under 15kg)
Brakes are tektro, are they really going to be worse than any mechanical brakes available in this price range?
http://postimg.org/image/of6rrzcob/


Edited by: "Dusterfluster" 3rd Nov 2014

If 18 inch frame size is the right size for you, I very much doubt you'd get anywhere near this spec for the price. Yes, £500 mountain bikes will probably get you a better spec, better forks for example, but that is missing the point - this bike is a little over £150 notes! Heat!

With a 3 year warrenty you cant lose ....

18 inch wheel size...???

Original Poster

rysio101

18 inch wheel size...???


Typo by Argos 26-32" inside leg so safely assume its 26"
Otherwise it would be for a 7 year old.
Forks are 26" as well.

Looking at the pics I think they might have made the usual mistake of quoting the weight of the bike and all the packaging combined.

I can see a deore mech, shimano chainset, tektro brakes and quando hubs. Nothing to get excited about but a good few levels above the **** sold by sports direct or tesco.

great spec for price, barely worth posting bike deals since people only seem to complain and chime on about second hand options or spending 3 times the cost of the posted item

Pictures how a Shimano Deore rear derailleur - not the Tourney one in the spec.

Hot for a decent getabouton pusher.
Edited by: "worthinger" 3rd Nov 2014

Petebiz

With a 3 year warrenty you cant lose ....



Not sure if you are serious or if that was you just trolling

I bought a Muddy Fox six years ago, from Argos not as good as this. I dismantled the bike completely, cleaned off the tar like grease that the Chinese use and replaced it with White Lithium grease, this allows for greater/closer tolerance when re-assembling . Bike still going great after riding about ten to 20 miles a day.
The Shimano rear mech is the cheaper type not the higher quality as per the pics.
Tip: If you want to reduce the amount of times the rear shifters need adjusting, when finished riding back off the shifter thereby reducing the tension on the wire.

antonywhite37

great spec for price, barely worth posting bike deals since people only … great spec for price, barely worth posting bike deals since people only seem to complain and chime on about second hand options or spending 3 times the cost of the posted item

Couldn't have put it better myself. Whatever bike you post it gets a slating versus secondhand or some Halfords rubbish!

Original Poster

Why do people slate bike deals so much then, from what I can see on this bike the components would pretty much cost you more than the overall cost of the bike.
It is the cheapest new bike I can see with Hydraulic brakes and 24 gears by about £100, add to that the bikes around £100 more seem to have worse components?

i presume the warranty is for actual frame breakage , in normal shopping duties


,youll certainly be fit after couple months on this monster


and broke/bad tempered

Would this be ok for someone at 5ft 6?

Original Poster

Babylove

Would this be ok for someone at 5ft 6?


Depends on the inside leg measurement. Should be just about OK bust best to check measurements to be safe.

Dusterfluster

19KG is boxed weight. (presumably as I have a cross bike for my wife and … 19KG is boxed weight. (presumably as I have a cross bike for my wife and Argos said it was 18kg, its under 15kg)Brakes are tektro, are they really going to be worse than any mechanical brakes available in this price range?

probably probably no worse than mechanical disk at this price but more hassle, I cant understand for the life of me why brands insist on scrimping on other components to include disk brakes, the money would be much better spent on other components and stick with v brakes instead of inferior disk set ups.

Original Poster

probably probably no worse than mechanical disk at this price but more … probably probably no worse than mechanical disk at this price but more hassle, I cant understand for the life of me why brands insist on scrimping on other components to include disk brakes, the money would be much better spent on other components and stick with v brakes instead of inferior disk set ups.



But if set up correctly they can be virtually hassle free, they also have a lot better stopping power over V brakes and Mechanical disks.
I think the point on this bike is they have not really scrimped on other componants (EG EZ fire shifters instead of grip shifts, £50ish front forks etc) they could have gone down the route of unbranded chinese componants. For the cost I cant really see the scrimping to be honest.

Edited by: "Dusterfluster" 4th Nov 2014

antonywhite37

great spec for price, barely worth posting bike deals since people only … great spec for price, barely worth posting bike deals since people only seem to complain and chime on about second hand options or spending 3 times the cost of the posted item



18 comments in and still growing but no one has made the usual remarks you predicted.

There's people slating people who slate bike deals before it has even been slated. I slate those people who slate people who slate bike deals before they've even been slated.

Dusterfluster

Why do people slate bike deals so much then, from what I can see on this … Why do people slate bike deals so much then, from what I can see on this bike the components would pretty much cost you more than the overall cost of the bike. It is the cheapest new bike I can see with Hydraulic brakes and 24 gears by about £100, add to that the bikes around £100 more seem to have worse components?



We slate bike deals like this because a £160 bike with front suspension is worse than a £160 bike without front suspension.
Hydraulic brakes on a £160 bike will be no better than more easily maintainable brakes.

On this bike, they're features for the sake of features, but they just add weight and make the bike slower, heavier and less reliable.

So yes, it's probably a cheap bike for 24 gears, hydraulic disc brakes and front suspension. It's still scrap metal and you'd be better off spending that money on something that hasn't been built to tick a bunch of feature boxes instead of actually being fun to cycle on.

/rant

Original Poster

dhope

We slate bike deals like this because a £160 bike with front suspension … We slate bike deals like this because a £160 bike with front suspension is worse than a £160 bike without front suspension.Hydraulic brakes on a £160 bike will be no better than more easily maintainable brakes.On this bike, they're features for the sake of features, but they just add weight and make the bike slower, heavier and less reliable.So yes, it's probably a cheap bike for 24 gears, hydraulic disc brakes and front suspension. It's still scrap metal and you'd be better off spending that money on something that hasn't been built to tick a bunch of feature boxes instead of actually being fun to cycle on./rant



In your own opinion of course.
But if you want a front suspension bike, with Hydraulic disk brakes, 24 gears and decent branded componants it is better than a £160 bike without any of these

Is the idea of ticking boxes to fulfil demand, if you want those boxes ticked you would go with the one that ticks boxes?
At least they are not a bike built on a 80's/90's trading name now built at a low price point in china ( I think we know the brands)
crosscycle.com/

Edited by: "Dusterfluster" 4th Nov 2014

Or £8 more for full suspension(if that's your thing):

ebay.co.uk/itm…801

Original Poster

Besford

Or £8 more for full suspension(if that's your … Or £8 more for full suspension(if that's your thing):http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cross-Edge-26-Inch-Bike-Mens-/351040916801


Well they went quick.

dhope

We slate bike deals like this because a £160 bike with front suspension … We slate bike deals like this because a £160 bike with front suspension is worse than a £160 bike without front suspension.Hydraulic brakes on a £160 bike will be no better than more easily maintainable brakes.On this bike, they're features for the sake of features, but they just add weight and make the bike slower, heavier and less reliable.So yes, it's probably a cheap bike for 24 gears, hydraulic disc brakes and front suspension. It's still scrap metal and you'd be better off spending that money on something that hasn't been built to tick a bunch of feature boxes instead of actually being fun to cycle on./rant



Sometimes (often) yes but if you took the trouble to read the details and reviews of this one you'd have to conclude it's a reasonable bike and superb value. Shimano, Suntour, Tektro are not the usual rubbish and it's an aluminium frame too. It's a bike made to sell at over £300 with a massive end of season discount - not a bike made to sell at £99. People who judge a product purely by its price and can't discriminate based on specification are bound to be mugged on a regular basis. 'You get what you pay for' is one of the most misleading quotes regularly seen on HUKD.

I see you have a post for a £530 iPhone - disqualifies you from making value judgements I think!

Reserve your comments for the next Tesco / Sports Direct bike deal instead of repeating what you've read parrot fashion.




Edited by: "Besford" 4th Nov 2014

I'm looking for a bike for my son and yesterday brought the one on the link below from Gooutdoors for £174. Is anyone able to comment which is the better bike. The obvious difference is the extra 3 gears and hydraulic disc brakes on the Argos one, but are mechanical disc brakes easier to maintain and is there much benefit to having 24 gears?

gooutdoors.co.uk/dbr…071

Thanks for any replies

Dusterfluster

But if set up correctly they can be virtually hassle free, they also have … But if set up correctly they can be virtually hassle free, they also have a lot better stopping power over V brakes and Mechanical disks.I think the point on this bike is they have not really scrimped on other componants (EG EZ fire shifters instead of grip shifts, £50ish front forks etc) they could have gone down the route of unbranded chinese componants. For the cost I cant really see the scrimping to be honest.

That is a fair point on this one I was meaning in general really , still stand by v brakes in this price bracket though . Bikes of this standard are not capable of performance that would be benefited by disk brakes, and can guarantee how ever they are set up they will not be hassle free.

"Cross LTD is a Bulgarian Company established in 1995 specialized in bicycle manufacturing. Both brands – Cross and Crosser are registered trade marks for our bikes and wheels.

We have a designer’s team in house, which responsibility is to develop a wide range of new models every year. Keeping the brand identity of eаch model is the Cross designers’ first priority. They achieve this through creating conceptual elaborations, engineering and graphic designs which are intellectual property of Cross LTD.

We have 480 qualified specialists involved in management and production processes and this fact guarantees high reputation of Cross branded bikes inEurope.

We have two factories inMontanaandVidinwhere we possess warehouse areas and production halls equipped with special conveyors for bicycles building. We also have powder paint shops for frames and wheels, as well as special high-tech machines for wheels assembling.

Cross LTD produces around 250 000 bicycles per year. About 98% of them are exported mainly to Germany, Holland, Austria, Switzerland, France, Denmark, Sweden etc.

In our range we have the most popular in Bulgaria types of bikes like Junior and MTB (26”, 27.5” and 29”), as well as the best sellers in Europe like Cross, Trekking, City & Urban type of bikes. Cross LTD produces bicycles for some of the most famous worldwide brands, where our products are famous with their high quality. This is due to the ISO 9001 standard on one hand and the components we use for assembling of the bikes on the other hand. These parts are supplied by well known companies like SHIMANO, SRAM, SUNTOUR, SCHWALBE, KINESIS, KENDA, PROMAX, SELLE ROYAL, HERRMANS, TEKTRO, MAGIRA, SELLE ITALIA, AXA, SKS etc.

The basic parts we use - frames, forks, brakes, hubs etc. are light weight aluminum. The exceptional quality of the Crosser wheels has been gained by using the double wall alloy profile and Robot machines for wheels assembling. By painting the wheel and the frame in the same color we achieve the unique and complete look of each bicycle.

By the words of our business partners, the great advantages of our Cross bicycles are their high quality and the original design which gives them an unique look and increases the interest in our products."
Edited by: "Besford" 4th Nov 2014

Original Poster

broadyo796

That is a fair point on this one I was meaning in general really , still … That is a fair point on this one I was meaning in general really , still stand by v brakes in this price bracket though . Bikes of this standard are not capable of performance that would be benefited by disk brakes, and can guarantee how ever they are set up they will not be hassle free.



I know what you are saying, but I am a big guy (over 14st) so would prefer hydraulic as I have had mechanical in the past and stopping can be scary at times

I know what you are saying on V Brakes decent ones are still cheap and work very well. But likewise in the same bracket V brakes are also not hassle free either anyone will need a bit of biking knowledge to set them up well (although less time consuming than disks I will admit and work better than cheap no brand disks)
You still have to adjust cables, check wear adjust on v-brakes they are just generally a bit less technical to do to get a good working setup.
But my point would be on this bike is they are bottom of the range decent branded disks, not bottom of the range no brand disks. So a good set up should be able to be achieved on these, and you are not paying through the nose for them anyway.

Had a look on Google but can't find an answer, so would be grateful if anyone else can help out...

What is the travel on this front fork and does it have lock-out?

Original Poster

Sweetchuck

Had a look on Google but can't find an answer, so would be grateful if … Had a look on Google but can't find an answer, so would be grateful if anyone else can help out...What is the travel on this front fork and does it have lock-out?


I think they are these, if so yes. Load adjustment and lockout.
Suntour V4 Disk Version
Edited by: "Dusterfluster" 4th Nov 2014

Besford

Sometimes (often) yes but if you took the trouble to read the details and … Sometimes (often) yes but if you took the trouble to read the details and reviews of this one you'd have to conclude it's a reasonable bike and superb value. Shimano, Suntour, Tektro are not the usual rubbish and it's an aluminium frame too. It's a bike made to sell at over £300 with a massive end of season discount - not a bike made to sell at £99. People who judge a product purely by its price and can't discriminate based on specification are bound to be mugged on a regular basis. 'You get what you pay for' is one of the most misleading quotes regularly seen on HUKD.I see you have a post for a £530 iPhone - disqualifies you from making value judgements I think!Reserve your comments for the next Tesco / Sports Direct bike deal instead of repeating what you've read parrot fashion.



I couldn't agree more, and very well put too.

Dusterfluster

I know what you are saying, but I am a big guy (over 14st) so would … I know what you are saying, but I am a big guy (over 14st) so would prefer hydraulic as I have had mechanical in the past and stopping can be scary at times :)I know what you are saying on V Brakes decent ones are still cheap and work very well. But likewise in the same bracket V brakes are also not hassle free either anyone will need a bit of biking knowledge to set them up well (although less time consuming than disks I will admit and work better than cheap no brand disks)You still have to adjust cables, check wear adjust on v-brakes they are just generally a bit less technical to do to get a good working setup.But my point would be on this bike is they are bottom of the range decent branded disks, not bottom of the range no brand disks. So a good set up should be able to be achieved on these, and you are not paying through the nose for them anyway.

Each to there own I suppose this is a cut above the norm also got this advantage of not having to worry if wheels are slightly untrue,In general though the mass producers for the typical £150 ish bike could make a much more capable bike with v brakes and a rigid fork with the money spread more evenly across components.

baggielad

I'm looking for a bike for my son and yesterday brought the one on the … I'm looking for a bike for my son and yesterday brought the one on the link below from Gooutdoors for £174. Is anyone able to comment which is the better bike. The obvious difference is the extra 3 gears and hydraulic disc brakes on the Argos one, but are mechanical disc brakes easier to maintain and is there much benefit to having 24 gears?http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/dbr-outback-mountain-bike-2014-p307071Thanks for any replies



There are worse, it doesn't mention the weight, I'd do a compare with Decathlon as their budget bikes get a decent review, checkout bikeradar.com as they have some reviews, I think mbuk did some reviews a couple of months back and the budget rockrider came out well,

This bike is an XC. XC stands for cross country. For cross country riding, this bike will be more than adequate. You can't get a bike with these branded components for this price from anywhere else. If you are a hardened mountain biker and you want to fly down the side of a mountain at breakneck speed, you probably would want something with better specs and most probably costing many times the price of this.

Dusterfluster

I think they are these, if so yes. Load adjustment and lockout.Suntour V4 … I think they are these, if so yes. Load adjustment and lockout.Suntour V4 Disk Version



They are most probably XCT's & having looked at questions & answers & also second hand ones for sale, I also believe the fork travel is 80mm & that it has the lockout function also. I can't guarantee it though, so it would be best checking first if this is vital for you.
Edited by: "norfolkbroadslim" 4th Nov 2014

I've been looking for a bike to use at the weekend but also once or twice a week to commute (about 6 miles, mostly road/cycle lanes in London). Not a previous bike owner for this sort of thing, would this be worth looking at?

Original Poster

jads

I've been looking for a bike to use at the weekend but also once or twice … I've been looking for a bike to use at the weekend but also once or twice a week to commute (about 6 miles, mostly road/cycle lanes in London). Not a previous bike owner for this sort of thing, would this be worth looking at?


You could get away cheaper and lighter for a commuter bike, if you went for this you would want some road tires to make it an easier experience.
But if you wanted to go down the odd trail and track as well this would be a good option.
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