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Already posted :-) All the crucial memory has 30% off at Amazon, I got some single whites for even less over the weekend - great prices.
So many offers on ram at the moment.

I just bought this:
hotukdeals.com/dea…523

I’m not great with ram, my mind says this 3200 on offer should be better than the 3000 I just bought, but apparently that’s not always the case?
Anyone know which one is better out the two and why? Be good to understand.
replicant6920/02/2020 07:23

So many offers on ram at the moment.I just bought this: …So many offers on ram at the moment.I just bought this: https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/crucial-ballistix-tactical-tracer-desktop-gaming-memory-kit-rgb-3000-mhz-ddr4-dram-16-gb-8-gb-x-2-6599-delivered-at-amazon-3407523I’m not great with ram, my mind says this 3200 on offer should be better than the 3000 I just bought, but apparently that’s not always the case?Anyone know which one is better out the two and why? Be good to understand.



Depends on the timings. The one you linked is lower CL15, and RGB.
Edited by: "rev6" 20th Feb
rev620/02/2020 07:34

Depends on the timings. The one you linked is lower CL15, and RGB.


I dont know what that means, but in short is this one on offer better than the one in the link?
If so I can order this and return the other, naturally just want best for the money.
replicant6920/02/2020 07:42

I dont know what that means, but in short is this one on offer better than …I dont know what that means, but in short is this one on offer better than the one in the link?If so I can order this and return the other, naturally just want best for the money.



The one you bought looks better, but without looking I'm not sure if they're E-Die like this here, if they're both E-Die they'll clock about the same. If you don't plan on touching the clocks and just leaving them stock, not sure which I'd go for.
There won't be a massive difference between them. If you're after RGB then stick with what you've got. If the red of the non-RGB's on offer here match your build aesthetics personally I'd rather put the extra money towards a better PSU, GPU or CPU or simply pocket the difference.
rev620/02/2020 07:45

The one you bought looks better, but without looking I'm not sure if …The one you bought looks better, but without looking I'm not sure if they're E-Die like this here, if they're both E-Die they'll clock about the same. If you don't plan on touching the clocks and just leaving them stock, not sure which I'd go for.


Thank you.
I will do some research shortly when on my train, I could do with understanding all this a bit better. Thanks for the response
replicant6920/02/2020 08:03

Thank you.I will do some research shortly when on my train, I could do …Thank you.I will do some research shortly when on my train, I could do with understanding all this a bit better. Thanks for the response


You really won't notice any difference and stock speeds between the 2 kits!

In theory.. 3200Mhz (3200/16 = 200) = 3000Mhz (3000/15 = 200)

So, both are actually the same in regards to latency (200).

However..

These kits (if they are Micron Rev. E) are pretty much all capable of 3600Mhz Cl16 at relatively low voltage (1.35v - 1.4v)

You could install and run Thaiphoon Burner to check if they are indeed Micron Rev.E IC's and then simply overclock them in the bios.
Edited by: "keenan316" 20th Feb
replicant6920/02/2020 08:03

Thank you.I will do some research shortly when on my train, I could do …Thank you.I will do some research shortly when on my train, I could do with understanding all this a bit better. Thanks for the response


Frequency isn't everything.
Generally the higher the frequency (MHz) the better, although with DDR4 once you exceed 3000MHz the performance increase is extremely tiny and really not noticeable, especially for the horrendous price increase. And that's for tasks that actively need it, if you're just gaming with a task on another monitor there's really no reason to ever go above 3000-3200MHz unless you have piles of money and you've already maxed out far more important components like the CPU and GPU (plus if you REALLY need the extra speed you can often just overclock anyway as long as you didn't massively lose the silicon lottery and you don't go crazy).

But then 3200MHz isn't always inherently better than 3000MHz, and 3600MHz isn't always inherently better than 3200MHz. There's something called CAS Latency, or CL (C depending on the brand) which will also affect your performance. In general, the lower this number the better, so 3000MHz CL14 will be better than 3000MHz CL18 and so forth.
So if you have to choose between 3200MHz CL14 and a more expensive 3600MHz CL18, the latter will actually (often) perform worse despite being a higher frequency.

And then there's the whole bag of worms with many older motherboards not even fully supporting 3600MHz.
What you have is fine, and honestly you shouldn't even really need to worry about overclocking it unless you really need that extra bump for some reason. Anything above where you're at will really begin to hit diminishing returns and cost a whoooooole lot more, and assuming you're using it for general use/gaming it's not like you'd need to go above it anyway. Keep what you've got and put the extra money where it counts, like a better GPU/CPU.
keenan31620/02/2020 08:44

You really won't notice any difference and stock speeds between the 2 …You really won't notice any difference and stock speeds between the 2 kits!In theory.. 3200Mhz (3200/16 = 200) = 3000Mhz (3000/15 = 200)So, both are actually the same in regards to latency (200).However..These kits (if they are Micron Rev. E) are pretty much all capable of 3600Mhz Cl16 at relatively low voltage (1.35v - 1.4v)You could install and run Thaiphoon Burner to check if they are indeed Micron Rev.E IC's and then simply overclock them in the bios.


Thank you!
Started to read up on bits but got lost! Love the explanation you've provided though, and bottom line I will just keep my current ram recently purchased.

I plan to upgrade from my Ryzen 5 1600 to the Ryzen 7 2700x. Hopefully between that and ram my video conversions should be a lot quicker

Thanks again
Ready_Eddy20/02/2020 09:11

Frequency isn't everything. Generally the higher the frequency (MHz) the …Frequency isn't everything. Generally the higher the frequency (MHz) the better, although with DDR4 once you exceed 3000MHz the performance increase is extremely tiny and really not noticeable, especially for the horrendous price increase. And that's for tasks that actively need it, if you're just gaming with a task on another monitor there's really no reason to ever go above 3000-3200MHz unless you have piles of money and you've already maxed out far more important components like the CPU and GPU (plus if you REALLY need the extra speed you can often just overclock anyway as long as you didn't massively lose the silicon lottery and you don't go crazy).But then 3200MHz isn't always inherently better than 3000MHz, and 3600MHz isn't always inherently better than 3200MHz. There's something called CAS Latency, or CL (C depending on the brand) which will also affect your performance. In general, the lower this number the better, so 3000MHz CL14 will be better than 3000MHz CL18 and so forth.So if you have to choose between 3200MHz CL14 and a more expensive 3600MHz CL18, the latter will actually (often) perform worse despite being a higher frequency. And then there's the whole bag of worms with many older motherboards not even fully supporting 3600MHz.What you have is fine, and honestly you shouldn't even really need to worry about overclocking it unless you really need that extra bump for some reason. Anything above where you're at will really begin to hit diminishing returns and cost a whoooooole lot more, and assuming you're using it for general use/gaming it's not like you'd need to go above it anyway. Keep what you've got and put the extra money where it counts, like a better GPU/CPU.


Thank you, great explanation here!

I barely use my PC and dont do any PC gaming, so one would argue 'why all the upgrades'. When in use, Its mainly used for general internet, file downloads and then MKV conversions. I do some video editing every so often which is just family holiday GoPro editing. That's probably what takes the most time along with MKV file conversions, they can take a good hour or more. So for that reason I thought its worth the upgrade and to be honest it's not much money.

Thank you for all the information, really helpful and I know now to just stick with what I have bought. Ryzen 7 next
keenan31620/02/2020 08:44

You really won't notice any difference and stock speeds between the 2 …You really won't notice any difference and stock speeds between the 2 kits!In theory.. 3200Mhz (3200/16 = 200) = 3000Mhz (3000/15 = 200)So, both are actually the same in regards to latency (200).However..These kits (if they are Micron Rev. E) are pretty much all capable of 3600Mhz Cl16 at relatively low voltage (1.35v - 1.4v)You could install and run Thaiphoon Burner to check if they are indeed Micron Rev.E IC's and then simply overclock them in the bios.


Not trying to be antagonistic but is that right?
By that logic a 3600MHz DIMM would have a longer latency? 3600/15 = 240?
Is it not, latency/speed? E.g. 15/3600 and 16/3200? Which would then make the higher clocked frequency and lower CL RAM have the lower latency?
replicant6920/02/2020 09:30

Thank you, great explanation here!I barely use my PC and dont do any PC …Thank you, great explanation here!I barely use my PC and dont do any PC gaming, so one would argue 'why all the upgrades'. When in use, Its mainly used for general internet, file downloads and then MKV conversions. I do some video editing every so often which is just family holiday GoPro editing. That's probably what takes the most time along with MKV file conversions, they can take a good hour or more. So for that reason I thought its worth the upgrade and to be honest it's not much money.Thank you for all the information, really helpful and I know now to just stick with what I have bought. Ryzen 7 next


Yeah if you're video editing then what you've got is actually really good, especially at 16GB where a lot of articles seem to call it a good "sweet spot" (just had to check as I don't really do much work with videos).
RAM doesn't affect rendering a huge amount, that's more a job for something like the CPU.
For Zen 2 I would say 3200 MT/s is the sweet spot, run the FCLK and MCLK at 1:1 and then manually adjust memory timings.

Although If you can get 3600 MT/s RAM for not much more and OC the FCLK to 1800 MHz then you can get a bit more performance.
Gormond20/02/2020 10:35

For Zen 2 I would say 3200 MT/s is the sweet spot, run the FCLK and MCLK …For Zen 2 I would say 3200 MT/s is the sweet spot, run the FCLK and MCLK at 1:1 and then manually adjust memory timings.Although If you can get 3600 MT/s RAM for not much more and OC the FCLK to 1800 MHz then you can get a bit more performance.



Any good guides out there for the FCLK and MCLK tweaking? A cursory search brings up a few things but I'd like to see some recommendations...
chischis20/02/2020 10:39

Any good guides out there for the FCLK and MCLK tweaking? A cursory search …Any good guides out there for the FCLK and MCLK tweaking? A cursory search brings up a few things but I'd like to see some recommendations...


Have a look at Steve's (Hardware Unboxed / Techspot) guide here:
Gormond20/02/2020 10:42

Have a look at Steve's (Hardware Unboxed / Techspot) guide here:[Video]



Of course he's done one, should have checked! Thank you
Hollins20/02/2020 09:35

Not trying to be antagonistic but is that right?By that logic a 3600MHz …Not trying to be antagonistic but is that right?By that logic a 3600MHz DIMM would have a longer latency? 3600/15 = 240?Is it not, latency/speed? E.g. 15/3600 and 16/3200? Which would then make the higher clocked frequency and lower CL RAM have the lower latency?


You are completely right, that was an easy way to try and explain it in just showing they are equal.

If you really want to work out the latency in a quick formula it would probably be cas/frequency*1000=X

So..

15/3000*1000=5 = 16/3200*1000=5

But..

Say you run these at 3600Mhz Cl14 with 1.45v

Then..

14/3600*1000= 3.8

So the lower the number, the better the real world latency.
Edited by: "keenan316" 20th Feb
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