Cyberpower Gaming Battalion 1050Ti ECC01748 Desktop £559.96 @ Ebuyer
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Cyberpower Gaming Battalion 1050Ti ECC01748 Desktop £559.96 @ Ebuyer

£559.96Ebuyer Deals
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Edited by:"rd3d2"Found 21st Oct
  • AMD FX 4300 Quad Core 3.8GHz
  • 8GB RAM + 2TB HDD
  • DVD Writer + WIFI
  • NVIDIA GTX 1050Ti
  • Windows 10 Home

    Not a Powerhouse by any means but should cope with Mixed Reality ULTRA and mid level gaming (though you will want to download the latest drivers from geforce.com/dri…ers for Mixed Reality use)

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The FX range of cpus is so awful, I have just gone back to a Phenom II (thanks to kester76); the FX chips are memory crippled by design, having smaller on-die caches, and half the number of memory controllers of the old PII chips.

I had to overclock my FX6300 to 5GHz to match the real life game performance of my PII 1090T at stock, even though the cpu benchmark tests suggest the 6300 should trounce it at stock speeds.

The 1090 kester donated to me went in a few days ago, one basic auto OC later and it is sitting at 4.08GHz and wiping the floor with any FX chip available - and not far off of the multi-thread benchmark scores of the FX8350 either (it already beats it on single thread by 23%).
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The cup is not overflowing on this one .....

The FX range of cpus is so awful, I have just gone back to a Phenom II (thanks to kester76); the FX chips are memory crippled by design, having smaller on-die caches, and half the number of memory controllers of the old PII chips.

I had to overclock my FX6300 to 5GHz to match the real life game performance of my PII 1090T at stock, even though the cpu benchmark tests suggest the 6300 should trounce it at stock speeds.

The 1090 kester donated to me went in a few days ago, one basic auto OC later and it is sitting at 4.08GHz and wiping the floor with any FX chip available - and not far off of the multi-thread benchmark scores of the FX8350 either (it already beats it on single thread by 23%).

Winter is coming, brace yourself...

Gentle_Giant50 m ago

The FX range of cpus is so awful, I have just gone back to a Phenom II …The FX range of cpus is so awful, I have just gone back to a Phenom II (thanks to kester76); the FX chips are memory crippled by design, having smaller on-die caches, and half the number of memory controllers of the old PII chips.I had to overclock my FX6300 to 5GHz to match the real life game performance of my PII 1090T at stock, even though the cpu benchmark tests suggest the 6300 should trounce it at stock speeds.The 1090 kester donated to me went in a few days ago, one basic auto OC later and it is sitting at 4.08GHz and wiping the floor with any FX chip available - and not far off of the multi-thread benchmark scores of the FX8350 either (it already beats it on single thread by 23%).



Exactly. The very reason i kept my Phenom II 1100T for many years and never upgraded to the FX range.
When it was starting to show its age, i had to jump over to intel i7-6700k.
Might consider the latest range of AMD chips now they are comparable to intel again when its eventually time to upgrade.

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I agree with you guys but I think this deal is maybe aimed at someone who wants an easy "off the shelf" PC that will cope with Mixed Reality ULTRA and this is probs about the lowest spec you can get away with and still get a banging result in all but the most demanding games (admittedly some of the steam based games might struggle a bit but that's a different kettle of fish and an unknown as far as the Mixed Reality platform is concerned)
Edited by: "rd3d2" 21st Oct

rd3d247 m ago

I agree with you guys but I think this deal is maybe aimed at someone who …I agree with you guys but I think this deal is maybe aimed at someone who wants an easy "off the shelf" PC that will cope with Mixed Reality ULTRA and this is probs about the lowest spec you can get away with and still get a banging result in all but the most demanding games (admittedly some of the steam based games might struggle a bit but that's a different kettle of fish and an unknown as far as the Mixed Reality platform is concerned)




So someone throwing cash down on a vr headset will buy this although it cant play normal games at any decent standard.

rd3d21 h, 21 m ago

I agree with you guys but I think this deal is maybe aimed at someone who …I agree with you guys but I think this deal is maybe aimed at someone who wants an easy "off the shelf" PC that will cope with Mixed Reality ULTRA and this is probs about the lowest spec you can get away with and still get a banging result in all but the most demanding games (admittedly some of the steam based games might struggle a bit but that's a different kettle of fish and an unknown as far as the Mixed Reality platform is concerned)


It's a really bad price. Forget Sandy Bridge, this FX would get trounced by a 2009 Lynnfield i5 750.

There are better pre-built options. Recently stores have been selling Skylake i5 systems with 1060s and SSDs for very similar prices.

I can appreciate that this might appeal to someone as an easy off the shelf way into gaming, but it really isn't value for money and will soon be hopelessly outdated. As has already been pointed out much better systems at a similar price have been available recently.

Personally I think at this price point it's worth having a go at building a pc yourself, for about £400-450 (without Windows) you could build a Ryzen 1200 rig with a similar spec which would demolish this deal. As I'm sat here twiddling my thumbs as the storm rages outside I had a go and came up with this uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…Gyf. It really is simple to build a pc with modern parts and you would have a system able to be upgraded well into the future, in a couple of years you could drop in a better processor and ram and have a 4k capable rig.

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Putterill16 m ago

I can appreciate that this might appeal to someone as an easy off the …I can appreciate that this might appeal to someone as an easy off the shelf way into gaming, but it really isn't value for money and will soon be hopelessly outdated. As has already been pointed out much better systems at a similar price have been available recently. Personally I think at this price point it's worth having a go at building a pc yourself, for about £400-450 (without Windows) you could build a Ryzen 1200 rig with a similar spec which would demolish this deal. As I'm sat here twiddling my thumbs as the storm rages outside I had a go and came up with this https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/xbdGyf. It really is simple to build a pc with modern parts and you would have a system able to be upgraded well into the future, in a couple of years you could drop in a better processor and ram and have a 4k capable rig.


Indeed but to be fair there is also nothing stopping you from upgrading this desktop when you grow out of it and it does fit the bill for Mixed Reality at the moment at a reasonable price point. Sure there have been great deals recently (I posted some of them) but stocks are always low whereas with something like this you stand a chance of receiving what you ordered rather than a "sorry no stock email" and a refund ;-)

There is no upgrade path for this, it's always going to be bottlenecked by the CPU and there really isn't any worthwhile upgrade using the AM3+ socket, my son's PC has an overclocked FX 8320e and it struggles with some new games. You also have to factor in depreciation if you sell your PC when buying new, this will be worth less than £300 in a years time as it's using such an old processor, a Ryzen build will still be relevant and upgradable years down the line - they have promised to use the AM4 socket until 2020 at least.

The cpu here really is awful, I can't believe people still get away with selling these.

A g4560 will be far more cost effective, alternatively a ryzen 1200 or so will not only wipe the floor with this but also be upgradeable in the future.

The1050ti is also wasted in a tower, being a low energy unit mostly for the laptop market. It retails for 150 but for 20£ more you can get your hands on a rx 470.

As Putterill says, there is no (or very little) upgrade possible, the FX4300 is as fast as they get beyond the 220watt monsters that 99% of AM3+ boards cannot handle

The ranges "above" the 4300 just add extra cores, but with lower standard AND turbo speeds; since these cores also have to share memory channels and controllers, the improvement in performance isnt that great.

Once I have sorted out my new watercooling set up, I am going to push this 1090T and see what it will do; as it can handle a 1GHz OC with only the slightest voltage tweak, I think 4.5GHz is feasible, and up towards 5GHz possible; although I have been told to down tune the memory channels, as they cannot handle the higher speeds.

The biggest issue will be heat, at 4GHz my cpu is registering 47C under a 100% all cores burn test, and I dont want to take it beyond 50C. (Unlike Intel chips, AMD dont like the heat).

With the big drop in Rizen prices, this "deal" is a dead duck, and should be removed to avoid embarassment.
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