CYBERPOWER Syber VR PC - GTX 1070, i5-6600K, 1TB HDD, Windows 10  £760.79 @ Currys (eBay)
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CYBERPOWER Syber VR PC - GTX 1070, i5-6600K, 1TB HDD, Windows 10 £760.79 @ Currys (eBay)

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Found 14th Apr
I posted this about a month or so ago at over £120 more and a fair amount of people seemed to think it was good value. It is now a lot cheaper.

Specifications:

  • Processor: Intel® Core™ i5-6600K Processor, Quad-core, 3.5 GHz / 3.9 GHz with Turbo Boost, 6 MB cache
  • RAM: 8 GB DDR3 (32 GB maximum installable RAM)
  • Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (8 GB)
  • Storage: 1 TB HDD, 7200 rpm
  • Motherboard: Intel B150
  • Built-in WiFi

It seems to have DDR3 RAM and not DDR4 which is a bit of a shame. But it's still good value and I honestly don't think you can build it any cheaper using a 1070 and a i5 6600k. But by all means please post the parts as this will hopefully help someone.

This system is a little bit bigger than the OG Xbox One.
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Kebabcasualty5 m ago

Can someone explain to me (without being rude) why this is nearly twice …Can someone explain to me (without being rude) why this is nearly twice the price of an Xbox One X? I get that you can use it for other PC tasks etc but will there be a noticeable difference in graphical quality? I've watched the comparison videos on the Digital Foundry YouTube channel and I just can't fathom why you'd pay so much extra to be a PC gamer. Promise I'm not a troll, have been gaming for 33 years (firstly on a wooden chassis Atari) and am genuinely interested in a sensible answer.


The easiest way I can explain it, is because Microsoft will more then make their money back in the long run with Xbox , with Xbox Gold membership, and the costs of console games being significantly more then PC gaming.

PC Gaming is cheaper in the long run, but expensive in the short run. Console is vice versa.

So they can afford to mass produce the Xbox one X at a relatively affordable price because they will make more money from it in other ways after you've bought it.
Kebabcasualty7 m ago

Can someone explain to me (without being rude) why this is nearly twice …Can someone explain to me (without being rude) why this is nearly twice the price of an Xbox One X? I get that you can use it for other PC tasks etc but will there be a noticeable difference in graphical quality? I've watched the comparison videos on the Digital Foundry YouTube channel and I just can't fathom why you'd pay so much extra to be a PC gamer. Promise I'm not a troll, have been gaming for 33 years (firstly on a wooden chassis Atari) and am genuinely interested in a sensible answer.


4K gaming at 60fps or greater as opposed to 30.
Games tend to be cheaper, helping offset total cost.
Greater modding community to customise games.
Isn’t a 1 trick pony. It can do more than just game.
Can be upgraded incrementally, though at a cost. Offset by selling older parts.
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Great price. 1070 alone will set you back near 500. Great system for someone who doesn't want the hassle of building their own.
EmperorRosko8 m ago

Great price. 1070 alone will set you back near 500. Great system for …Great price. 1070 alone will set you back near 500. Great system for someone who doesn't want the hassle of building their own.


Wrong, can be had for much cheaper than £500 saw 1 with aftermarket fans for £430 after 2 seconds of looking on Amazon.
What type of graphics card is it? Its only got 8gb of memory and no ssd. Would the gpu not over heat in such a small case?
whopaysrrp9 m ago

What type of graphics card is it? Its only got 8gb of memory and no ssd. …What type of graphics card is it? Its only got 8gb of memory and no ssd. Would the gpu not over heat in such a small case?


I believe the only GTX 1070 that Cyberpower use is manufactured by MSI, and it has 1 fan.
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whopaysrrp16 m ago

What type of graphics card is it? Its only got 8gb of memory and no ssd. …What type of graphics card is it? Its only got 8gb of memory and no ssd. Would the gpu not over heat in such a small case?



It won't overheat. It will run hotter than it would in a normal case. But it won't overheat. Yes it only has 8GB and no SSD. But again building the same spec system your self is going to cost more. I imagine you can still add an extra 8GB stick and a SSD to this if you want to.
Can someone explain to me (without being rude) why this is nearly twice the price of an Xbox One X? I get that you can use it for other PC tasks etc but will there be a noticeable difference in graphical quality? I've watched the comparison videos on the Digital Foundry YouTube channel and I just can't fathom why you'd pay so much extra to be a PC gamer. Promise I'm not a troll, have been gaming for 33 years (firstly on a wooden chassis Atari) and am genuinely interested in a sensible answer.
What are these things like inside? are there additional HD bays if you want to add an SSD? Even just the connections? Does the PSU have enough juice to support additional drives?

What RAM is compatible etc? Models with CPU's this old appear to be retired and Cyberpower don't seem to have any info on their site.
Kebabcasualty5 m ago

Can someone explain to me (without being rude) why this is nearly twice …Can someone explain to me (without being rude) why this is nearly twice the price of an Xbox One X? I get that you can use it for other PC tasks etc but will there be a noticeable difference in graphical quality? I've watched the comparison videos on the Digital Foundry YouTube channel and I just can't fathom why you'd pay so much extra to be a PC gamer. Promise I'm not a troll, have been gaming for 33 years (firstly on a wooden chassis Atari) and am genuinely interested in a sensible answer.


The easiest way I can explain it, is because Microsoft will more then make their money back in the long run with Xbox , with Xbox Gold membership, and the costs of console games being significantly more then PC gaming.

PC Gaming is cheaper in the long run, but expensive in the short run. Console is vice versa.

So they can afford to mass produce the Xbox one X at a relatively affordable price because they will make more money from it in other ways after you've bought it.
Kebabcasualty7 m ago

Can someone explain to me (without being rude) why this is nearly twice …Can someone explain to me (without being rude) why this is nearly twice the price of an Xbox One X? I get that you can use it for other PC tasks etc but will there be a noticeable difference in graphical quality? I've watched the comparison videos on the Digital Foundry YouTube channel and I just can't fathom why you'd pay so much extra to be a PC gamer. Promise I'm not a troll, have been gaming for 33 years (firstly on a wooden chassis Atari) and am genuinely interested in a sensible answer.


4K gaming at 60fps or greater as opposed to 30.
Games tend to be cheaper, helping offset total cost.
Greater modding community to customise games.
Isn’t a 1 trick pony. It can do more than just game.
Can be upgraded incrementally, though at a cost. Offset by selling older parts.
ArcAndPie3 m ago

The easiest way I can explain it, is because Microsoft will more then make …The easiest way I can explain it, is because Microsoft will more then make their money back in the long run with Xbox , with Xbox Gold membership, and the costs of console games being significantly more then PC gaming.PC Gaming is cheaper in the long run, but expensive in the short run. Console is vice versa.So they can afford to mass produce the Xbox one X at a relatively affordable price because they will make more money from it in other ways after you've bought it.


Thank you and that's what I thought. From what I've seen on here you can maybe get the latest games for £10-15 cheaper on PC so it would probably take around 20 games to warrant the difference. I've been thinking of diving into PC gaming as I've gotten older but I'd find it hard to give up on the trophy haul on the PS4 (competition with my Bro). Cheers for the response.
Kebabcasualty10 m ago

Can someone explain to me (without being rude) why this is nearly twice …Can someone explain to me (without being rude) why this is nearly twice the price of an Xbox One X? I get that you can use it for other PC tasks etc but will there be a noticeable difference in graphical quality? I've watched the comparison videos on the Digital Foundry YouTube channel and I just can't fathom why you'd pay so much extra to be a PC gamer. Promise I'm not a troll, have been gaming for 33 years (firstly on a wooden chassis Atari) and am genuinely interested in a sensible answer.


I've have sea of thieves on Xbox one x and on pc. For me the Xbox version at is capped 30fps with dips is a world apart from the silky smooth uncapped frames on pc. Once you've experienced pc gaming it's hard to go back. This is just one example mind but I'll never buy a game on Xbox that's locked at 30fps. They should of pushed for all games running at 60fps on Xbox x before all this must be 4k HDR nonsense. Plus the games are usually cheaper and there is no subscription to play online
Kebabcasualty11 m ago

Can someone explain to me (without being rude) why this is nearly twice …Can someone explain to me (without being rude) why this is nearly twice the price of an Xbox One X? I get that you can use it for other PC tasks etc but will there be a noticeable difference in graphical quality? I've watched the comparison videos on the Digital Foundry YouTube channel and I just can't fathom why you'd pay so much extra to be a PC gamer. Promise I'm not a troll, have been gaming for 33 years (firstly on a wooden chassis Atari) and am genuinely interested in a sensible answer.


Few reasons:

Compatability - Windows allows you to do stuff you cant on an xbox, install programmes, loads different games etc.

Upgradability - You can't take an xbox apart and upgrade the GPU in two years time because it's outdated like you could on a normal pc (might not be able to do it on a small box pc like this I don't know)

Personality - You can make your pc look as good as you want and customise how it looks.

I like to think of a pc a bit like an android phone, and something like an xbox as an apple iPhone that you can't jailbreak.
Edited by: "bbfb123" 14th Apr
Is this upgradeable? Meaning the ram cpu and graphics card in the long run?
Kebabcasualty5 m ago

Thank you and that's what I thought. From what I've seen on here you can …Thank you and that's what I thought. From what I've seen on here you can maybe get the latest games for £10-15 cheaper on PC so it would probably take around 20 games to warrant the difference. I've been thinking of diving into PC gaming as I've gotten older but I'd find it hard to give up on the trophy haul on the PS4 (competition with my Bro). Cheers for the response.


No problem!

I have a PS4 pro and also a £500 (from 2 years ago) gaming PC. It's great to play both!

I'd definitely recommend a gaming pc if you've not got one yet.

I mainly play it for the massive strategy games that could never come to console.

If you ever do get one, I'd also recommend getting Humble Bundle Monthly. It's like £10 a month but you get loads of games every month - my steam library has over 400 games because of it. Admittedly I haven't played them all and probably never will but it's nice to have haha!

You can also pirate games aswell.... Not saying you should but it's an option with PC Gaming lol.
Oneday7711 m ago

4K gaming at 60fps or greater as opposed to 30. Games tend to be cheaper, …4K gaming at 60fps or greater as opposed to 30. Games tend to be cheaper, helping offset total cost. Greater modding community to customise games. Isn’t a 1 trick pony. It can do more than just game. Can be upgraded incrementally, though at a cost. Offset by selling older parts.


But can this PC do 4k at 60fps on the latest games? I'm not experienced by any means but going by some of the deals on here I'd thought you'd need to spend more than this. If this machine will do it I'd probably buy it. I want to get the best there is in terms of visual fidelity but without costing the same as a car!
Oneday7712 m ago

4K gaming at 60fps or greater as opposed to 30. Games tend to be cheaper, …4K gaming at 60fps or greater as opposed to 30. Games tend to be cheaper, helping offset total cost. Greater modding community to customise games. Isn’t a 1 trick pony. It can do more than just game. Can be upgraded incrementally, though at a cost. Offset by selling older parts.


To be fair though, graphically, it's probably only abit better than a one X.

The optimisation of console games means they punch well above their weight
Kebabcasualty23 m ago

Can someone explain to me (without being rude) why this is nearly twice …Can someone explain to me (without being rude) why this is nearly twice the price of an Xbox One X? I get that you can use it for other PC tasks etc but will there be a noticeable difference in graphical quality? I've watched the comparison videos on the Digital Foundry YouTube channel and I just can't fathom why you'd pay so much extra to be a PC gamer. Promise I'm not a troll, have been gaming for 33 years (firstly on a wooden chassis Atari) and am genuinely interested in a sensible answer.


In terms of raw power, it's more 'powerful' and versatile due to windows OS.

Consoles benefit from economies of scale and bulk purchasing, pcs are more bespoke.

PC offers an extra layer of graphical fidelity and customisation unavailable on consoles. You can choose to play at 1080p 100hz plus or 4k at 60fps whereas console will decide your settings for you.

It's that customisation worth it to most people? Probably not.

I've got a gaming pc which I use for cheap multiplats that I don't wanna spend 40 quid on for ps4.
Kebabcasualty27 m ago

Can someone explain to me (without being rude) why this is nearly twice …Can someone explain to me (without being rude) why this is nearly twice the price of an Xbox One X? I get that you can use it for other PC tasks etc but will there be a noticeable difference in graphical quality? I've watched the comparison videos on the Digital Foundry YouTube channel and I just can't fathom why you'd pay so much extra to be a PC gamer. Promise I'm not a troll, have been gaming for 33 years (firstly on a wooden chassis Atari) and am genuinely interested in a sensible answer.


I'll give you the biggest reason of them all, 60fps and above. Also, G-Sync.

Most console games are locked at 30 and regularly dip towards 25fps causing noticeable judder and stutter, which is down to the piss weak mobile CPU, even in the One X. Doesnt matter how powerful the graphics card in the One X is, the CPU holds it back massively. Any modern smartphone likely has a more powerful processor.

On the positive side, anyone who hasn't played games on a somewhat capable gaming PC wont have a clue what they're missing, so they can just enjoy whatever console platform they prefer without worrying. If you have nothing to compare to, you aren't missing out, as long as you're happy with what you already have.

Thankfully the PS5 and beyond will actually have good CPUs. AMD finally make decent chips again. Checkerboard 4k @ 60 please, no native 4k @ 30. If this happens along with adaptive refresh rates on the new TVs (newest HDMI spec supports it), then the gap between console and PC will be much smaller.

TLDR; One X and PS4 Pro are 1080p/60 machines with the option of 4k/30. PC goes above and beyond. Console games are significantly more expensive, so in a 3 year cycle you'd end up spending more with a console than building a PC if you bought a game every month.
Kebabcasualty12 m ago

But can this PC do 4k at 60fps on the latest games? I'm not experienced by …But can this PC do 4k at 60fps on the latest games? I'm not experienced by any means but going by some of the deals on here I'd thought you'd need to spend more than this. If this machine will do it I'd probably buy it. I want to get the best there is in terms of visual fidelity but without costing the same as a car!


Not even close to 4k 60 on any modern title. Maybe indie games and last gen titles. You'd need 2 1080ti's to hit 60, so about £1400 in loose change...

A 1080ti cant hold 60 fps on GTA V maxed out at 1440p, for example. It gets close, but not a solid 60.

I'm happy with my £100 1050. PS4 Pro for all the single player games, PC for competitive games like Rocket League and Fortnite.
I've seen the argument brought up that the games on pc are much cheaper, honest question but is there a certain place people buy pc games from other than steam that I'm missing out on? Digitally compared to psn, yeh. But physical Ps4 games are comparable and at times cheaper. E.g. Far cry 5 is £49.99 on steam whereas it can be found £43.99 for ps4 physically. I have a gaming laptop and a ps4 Pro for the record. And if people are referring to sales, both steam and psn sales are fantastic and usually drop to roughly the same prices.
Edited by: "youseftoma" 15th Apr
ImperialWookie8 m ago

I'll give you the biggest reason of them all, 60fps and above. Also, …I'll give you the biggest reason of them all, 60fps and above. Also, G-Sync.Most console games are locked at 30 and regularly dip towards 25fps causing noticeable judder and stutter, which is down to the piss weak mobile CPU, even in the One X. Doesnt matter how powerful the graphics card in the One X is, the CPU holds it back massively. Any modern smartphone likely has a more powerful processor.On the positive side, anyone who hasn't played games on a somewhat capable gaming PC wont have a clue what they're missing, so they can just enjoy whatever console platform they prefer without worrying. If you have nothing to compare to, you aren't missing out, as long as you're happy with what you already have.Thankfully the PS5 and beyond will actually have good CPUs. AMD finally make decent chips again. Checkerboard 4k @ 60 please, no native 4k @ 30. If this happens along with adaptive refresh rates on the new TVs (newest HDMI spec supports it), then the gap between console and PC will be much smaller.TLDR; One X and PS4 Pro are 1080p/60 machines with the option of 4k/30. PC goes above and beyond. Console games are significantly more expensive, so in a 3 year cycle you'd end up spending more with a console than building a PC if you bought a game every month.


That's an assured technical answer alright. I've no idea what G-sync I'd but I'll look it up.
youseftoma6 m ago

I've seen the argument brought up that the games on pc are much cheaper, …I've seen the argument brought up that the games on pc are much cheaper, honest question but is there a certain place people buy pc games from other than steam that I'm missing out on? Digitally compared to psn, yeh. But physical Ps4 games are comparable and at times cheaper. E.g. Far cry 5 is £49.99 on steam whereas it can be found £43.99 for ps4 physically. I have a gaming laptop and a ps4 Pro for the record. And if people are referring to sales, both steam and psn sales are fantastic and usually drop to roughly the same prices.


Steam tends to be a bit more expensive.

Theres tons of sites like CDKEYS out there that you buy the keys from for PC, so there is price competition
youseftoma10 m ago

I've seen the argument brought up that the games on pc are much cheaper, …I've seen the argument brought up that the games on pc are much cheaper, honest question but is there a certain place people buy pc games from other than steam that I'm missing out on? Digitally compared to psn, yeh. But physical Ps4 games are comparable and at times cheaper. E.g. Far cry 5 is £49.99 on steam whereas it can be found £43.99 for ps4 physically. I have a gaming laptop and a ps4 Pro for the record. And if people are referring to sales, both steam and psn sales are fantastic and usually drop to roughly the same prices.


There are dozens of Steam key retailers. Unlike PSN where only a few 3rd party retailers sell limited selections of digital PSN keys at high prices, the pc market is huge and has competition driving prices down.
All sold by the looks of it. Nice wee deal for the money,
ocelot2054 m ago

It won't overheat. It will run hotter than it would in a normal case. But …It won't overheat. It will run hotter than it would in a normal case. But it won't overheat. Yes it only has 8GB and no SSD. But again building the same spec system your self is going to cost more. I imagine you can still add an extra 8GB stick and a SSD to this if you want to.


Not sure how you know that this will not over heat, this card will probably throttle in this case.
B150 chipset and a 6600k......but why though?
Kebabcasualty37 m ago

But can this PC do 4k at 60fps on the latest games? I'm not experienced by …But can this PC do 4k at 60fps on the latest games? I'm not experienced by any means but going by some of the deals on here I'd thought you'd need to spend more than this. If this machine will do it I'd probably buy it. I want to get the best there is in terms of visual fidelity but without costing the same as a car!


Depends on the game but it is possible on some. Others may need settings tweaked and turned down but they still look better than what is on consoles.

Personally, I’d say there is more value in an Xbox One X right now than PC gaming if you just want to play the games you play on console.
HaggisHunter16 m ago

Steam tends to be a bit more expensive.Theres tons of sites like CDKEYS …Steam tends to be a bit more expensive.Theres tons of sites like CDKEYS out there that you buy the keys from for PC, so there is price competition


Oo just had a look and yeh it's defo cheaper than steam! Not sure why I was under the impression CDkeys just sold top ups and not actual games.

Thanks
youseftoma4 m ago

Oo just had a look and yeh it's defo cheaper than steam! Not sure why I …Oo just had a look and yeh it's defo cheaper than steam! Not sure why I was under the impression CDkeys just sold top ups and not actual games.Thanks


Another good comparison site.....
Isthereanydeal.com

When it comes to games im totally cheap though and get lotsa bundles like humblebundle.

Been playing PES18 atm though, and cant grumble for a fiver.
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ImperialWookie51 m ago

Not even close to 4k 60 on any modern title. Maybe indie games and last …Not even close to 4k 60 on any modern title. Maybe indie games and last gen titles. You'd need 2 1080ti's to hit 60, so about £1400 in loose change...A 1080ti cant hold 60 fps on GTA V maxed out at 1440p, for example. It gets close, but not a solid 60.I'm happy with my £100 1050. PS4 Pro for all the single player games, PC for competitive games like Rocket League and Fortnite.



Indie titles? I have recently been playing Rainbow Six Siege 4K 60fps locked, PUBG 4K 60FPS, Fortnite 4K 60FPS, Battlefield 1 4K 60FPS, Doom 60FPS uncapped average 80+FPS, Hitman 4K 60FPS.

The big open world games may need AA lowered down and maybe shadows set to medium but the 1080ti is more than capable of playing modern games at 4K 60fps.
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ws00746 m ago

Not sure how you know that this will not over heat, this card will …Not sure how you know that this will not over heat, this card will probably throttle in this case.



I don't own this exact system. However, I do have experience with the Silverstone Raven RVZ01-E case which is essentially the same case being used for this pre built system. For a time I had my MSI 1080ti, i7-4790k, 16gb RAM, HDD, SSD, Low profile CPU fan. I think the max temp I was getting while playing 4K games was around 90c. Yes that is pretty hot but it was not effecting performance. I have since moved onto a bigger standard ATX case now.
ArcAndPie6 h, 32 m ago

The easiest way I can explain it, is because Microsoft will more then make …The easiest way I can explain it, is because Microsoft will more then make their money back in the long run with Xbox , with Xbox Gold membership, and the costs of console games being significantly more then PC gaming.PC Gaming is cheaper in the long run, but expensive in the short run. Console is vice versa.So they can afford to mass produce the Xbox one X at a relatively affordable price because they will make more money from it in other ways after you've bought it.


Easiest way, especially with a system like this, would be the options you have.

Being able to run most games at 60-144fps, with maxed graphics is why PC always feels better than console. I have a PS4 Pro alongside my PC so I can play the exclusives, but since Microsoft releases all of their games on both via the new Play Anywhere scheme, if you have PC there's no reason to have an Xbox.

Also, people get sucked in by the 4K thing with the latest consoles. Most of the time it's not full 4K, and most of the time it's 30fps, and all of the time, the actual visuals are decreased compared to PC so that they can reach that 4K30.

1080p at 144hz with everything maxed out is an incredible thing to see. Especially FPS games.
Kebabcasualty6 h, 46 m ago

Can someone explain to me (without being rude) why this is nearly twice …Can someone explain to me (without being rude) why this is nearly twice the price of an Xbox One X? I get that you can use it for other PC tasks etc but will there be a noticeable difference in graphical quality? I've watched the comparison videos on the Digital Foundry YouTube channel and I just can't fathom why you'd pay so much extra to be a PC gamer. Promise I'm not a troll, have been gaming for 33 years (firstly on a wooden chassis Atari) and am genuinely interested in a sensible answer.


The PC here is much more powerful than an Xbox One X. TVs are limited to 60 Hz refresh rates, so consoles (currently) don't need to output graphics any faster than 60 fps. The PC listed here would be able to run most games at frame rates of 100+fps at 1440p. Once you have played games beyond 60Hz on a fast refresh monitor, there is no going back. Anything under 100 fps looks jerky to me and feels unpleasant to play, almost nausea inducing.
Kebabcasualty6 h, 39 m ago

Thank you and that's what I thought. From what I've seen on here you can …Thank you and that's what I thought. From what I've seen on here you can maybe get the latest games for £10-15 cheaper on PC so it would probably take around 20 games to warrant the difference. I've been thinking of diving into PC gaming as I've gotten older but I'd find it hard to give up on the trophy haul on the PS4 (competition with my Bro). Cheers for the response.


Don't forget playing online on PC does not require a paid subscription, so for example, if you play online for 5 years at £35 per, you can knock another £175 off.
youseftoma6 h, 19 m ago

I've seen the argument brought up that the games on pc are much cheaper, …I've seen the argument brought up that the games on pc are much cheaper, honest question but is there a certain place people buy pc games from other than steam that I'm missing out on? Digitally compared to psn, yeh. But physical Ps4 games are comparable and at times cheaper. E.g. Far cry 5 is £49.99 on steam whereas it can be found £43.99 for ps4 physically. I have a gaming laptop and a ps4 Pro for the record. And if people are referring to sales, both steam and psn sales are fantastic and usually drop to roughly the same prices.


Just wait a few months for game prices to fall, you don't need to play the latest games "now".
Can it run my nes emulator tho?
jammiejam2k6919 m ago

Can it run my nes emulator tho?


That would be depending on if the emulator program/application is compatable with Windows 10 more than anything else.
ArcAndPie7 h, 54 m ago

The easiest way I can explain it, is because Microsoft will more then make …The easiest way I can explain it, is because Microsoft will more then make their money back in the long run with Xbox , with Xbox Gold membership, and the costs of console games being significantly more then PC gaming.PC Gaming is cheaper in the long run, but expensive in the short run. Console is vice versa.So they can afford to mass produce the Xbox one X at a relatively affordable price because they will make more money from it in other ways after you've bought it.


Xbox live only costs £30-40 a year (and includes free games every month) so that’s negligible, and what if you take into account if you buy your games physical on consoles you can sell them on after recouping 80%+ of the cost? It’s a fact that never seems to get mentioned in these cost appraisals. If you’re going all digital then yes pc gaming can be cheaper but not by enough to offset the massive difference in the initial outlay.
I’m not trolling btw but just trying to give a balanced argument.
Its not too bad a price I must admit, yet in 2018 there is no excuse not to build it yourself. You could build a quality DDR4 based i5/1070ti rig for £800 approx, less if you go the DDR3 route. What your buying here is old- tat with a silly name to attract a certain clientele.
chaank3 m ago

Its not too bad a price I must admit, yet in 2018 there is no excuse not …Its not too bad a price I must admit, yet in 2018 there is no excuse not to build it yourself. You could build a quality DDR4 based i5/1070ti rig for £800 approx, less if you go the DDR3 route. What your buying here is old- tat with a silly name to attract a certain clientele.


Can you show me link to this please? I'd snap someone's hands off for this setup for £800.
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