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Cybex Juno Fix Group 1 Isofix Car Seat £69.99 @ Argos Ebay

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Posted 30th May
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The padded Cybex Juno Fix Group 1 Isofix Car Seat is a forward facing car seat, suitable for children from 9 months to 4 years (approx 18kg). It has an adjustable head support and multi-recline positions for optimum support and comfort. With an adjustable impact shield and optimised Linear Side-impact Protection (L. S. P. System Plus), it provides safety in the event of a collision.

The newly designed adjustable impact shield (patent pending) adjusts perfectly for highest comfort and offers freedom of movement of the upper body. It provides maximum safety, especially in frontal impacts when compared to conventional 5 point harness systems.

Winner of test winner in the European child car seat test 06/2012; ‘good’ in oamtc test 2012; ‘very good’ in autobild.

Winner of test winner in the european child car seat test 06/2012 ‘good’ in oamtc test 2012 ‘very good’ in autobild. De.

Car seat features:

Car seat group 1.
Suitable for children 9 months to 4 years.
Suitable for children from 9kg to 18kg.
For use with 3 point seat belts.
ISOFIX compatible.
Forward facing.
Side impact protection.
3 point harness.
Multi-recline - .
Adjustable head support.
Padded seat.
General information:

Size H66, W55, D40cm.
This seat does not convert to a booster seat.
Removable washable cover.
Weight 6.7kg.
Manufacturer’s 3 year guarantee.
EAN: 4058511122595.
Catalogue Number 544/0878
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MonkeyMan9030/05/2019 19:54

So are you trying to say that any car seat that's been sold for last god …So are you trying to say that any car seat that's been sold for last god knows how many decades are unsafe? I care very much for my kids safety but I would not put my 3 year old rear facing ever mind until they are 4. Car seats have a very very good record until this date so for me this is just a selling tactic making people buy rear facing with a high price tag


They pretty much are. UK safety tests for car seats are not the best. Rearward impact at 18mph, forward test 31.5mph, and a roll test. Side impact tests are not mandatory under R44/04.

9kg for forward facing is the bare minimum (around 9 months old) as an infant the head is 25% of total body weight and only 6% as an adult, so you risk internal decapitation on the child as the neck can stretch 2inches but it only takes a quarter of an inch for decapitation. Not only that the spine is only fully developed at 6 years old. Forming a solid ring around the spinal cord.
Swedish plus tests are the most stringent of testing, and rearward facing is scientifically proven to be safer. Even an adult would be safer travelling rearward.

The information is out there, legal is not the safest, rearward facing is. To date there are no reports for leg breakages in children who have been in accidents rearward facing.

In a forward facing seat the torso is held in place by the harness, but the head, arms and legs are thrown forward with great force. In a rear facing seat, the whole body is protected by the seat's back rest which absorbs the impact protecting the child's vulnerable neck and head.
In a crash at 50km/h, the neck of a forward facing child is subjected to loads of 180-300kg. In order for a child to avoid injury, these loads should never exceed 130kg. In a rear facing seat the neck loads are only 40-80kg.
Using a rear facing car seat reduces the risk of serious injury or death from 40% to just 8% compared to a forward facing seat.
Edited by: "TakenAtDawn" 30th May
johnszi2330/05/2019 21:59

They don’t care, they only care about what the magical internet recommend f …They don’t care, they only care about what the magical internet recommend for them...


Oh I've done my research in and out of a training centre... Certified car seat fitter. With a full refresher course every 12 months, plus tests, and additional research in child development. Not the University of Google.

If a leg were to be broken in a collision its easier for the body to heal that break than a spinal break!
Edited by: "TakenAtDawn" 30th May
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Why are there so many forward facing seats on the market if rear is recommended? I'm looking for a reasonable rear facing 1 - 4 year size seat for a second car and it's a nightmare
feeder1630/05/2019 19:00

Why are there so many forward facing seats on the market if rear is …Why are there so many forward facing seats on the market if rear is recommended? I'm looking for a reasonable rear facing 1 - 4 year size seat for a second car and it's a nightmare



Rear facing requires more structural components in the design and attracts a higher price tag unfortunately.

If you decide on forward facing, choose one with a bolster like this for max protection.
feeder1630/05/2019 19:00

Why are there so many forward facing seats on the market if rear is …Why are there so many forward facing seats on the market if rear is recommended? I'm looking for a reasonable rear facing 1 - 4 year size seat for a second car and it's a nightmare


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X3R3S30/05/2019 19:04

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Cheers will have a look
feeder1630/05/2019 19:00

Why are there so many forward facing seats on the market if rear is …Why are there so many forward facing seats on the market if rear is recommended? I'm looking for a reasonable rear facing 1 - 4 year size seat for a second car and it's a nightmare


It’s recommended not to smoke but every shop sells tobaco... do your child a favour and don’t force their legs to be next to the face
johnszi2330/05/2019 19:08

It’s recommended not to smoke but every shop sells tobaco... do your child …It’s recommended not to smoke but every shop sells tobaco... do your child a favour and don’t force their legs to be next to the face


I'm not sure that analogy works in this situation, I want my child to be safe in the event of a crash and rear facing is proven to be the safest. I'm not nipping down to the corner shop to buy them fags and a can of white lightning
johnszi2330/05/2019 19:08

It’s recommended not to smoke but every shop sells tobaco... do your child …It’s recommended not to smoke but every shop sells tobaco... do your child a favour and don’t force their legs to be next to the face


Some rear facing seats can be used until 4 years of age, they can be adjusted as the baby/toddler grows. It’s a lot safer. The downside being that they are all expensive, we’ve just paid £300 for ours and that’s a fairly standard price.
retro_dan30/05/2019 19:38

Some rear facing seats can be used until 4 years of age, they can be …Some rear facing seats can be used until 4 years of age, they can be adjusted as the baby/toddler grows. It’s a lot safer. The downside being that they are all expensive, we’ve just paid £300 for ours and that’s a fairly standard price.


Our main car seat was £300 and rotates etc. This is for a low use second car, was hoping for something a bit cheaper. But seem to be £180 plus for non rotate
feeder1630/05/2019 19:18

I'm not sure that analogy works in this situation, I want my child to be … I'm not sure that analogy works in this situation, I want my child to be safe in the event of a crash and rear facing is proven to be the safest. I'm not nipping down to the corner shop to buy them fags and a can of white lightning


So are you trying to say that any car seat that's been sold for last god knows how many decades are unsafe? I care very much for my kids safety but I would not put my 3 year old rear facing ever mind until they are 4. Car seats have a very very good record until this date so for me this is just a selling tactic making people buy rear facing with a high price tag
feeder1630/05/2019 19:18

I'm not sure that analogy works in this situation, I want my child to be … I'm not sure that analogy works in this situation, I want my child to be safe in the event of a crash and rear facing is proven to be the safest. I'm not nipping down to the corner shop to buy them fags and a can of white lightning


Maybe safer if you have a frontal impact but what about get hit from the back?
X3R3S30/05/2019 19:04

Might be worth having a sweep on sellers who are in the 15% off eBay …Might be worth having a sweep on sellers who are in the 15% off eBay voucher deal. Could be a deal to be had. https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/from-10am-get-15-off-selected-sellers-including-crampton-moore-hughes-direct-music-magpie-at-ebay-3237615


Unfortunately not in this instance, about 3 options only in group 1 (1+) at high end
MonkeyMan9030/05/2019 19:54

So are you trying to say that any car seat that's been sold for last god …So are you trying to say that any car seat that's been sold for last god knows how many decades are unsafe? I care very much for my kids safety but I would not put my 3 year old rear facing ever mind until they are 4. Car seats have a very very good record until this date so for me this is just a selling tactic making people buy rear facing with a high price tag


They pretty much are. UK safety tests for car seats are not the best. Rearward impact at 18mph, forward test 31.5mph, and a roll test. Side impact tests are not mandatory under R44/04.

9kg for forward facing is the bare minimum (around 9 months old) as an infant the head is 25% of total body weight and only 6% as an adult, so you risk internal decapitation on the child as the neck can stretch 2inches but it only takes a quarter of an inch for decapitation. Not only that the spine is only fully developed at 6 years old. Forming a solid ring around the spinal cord.
Swedish plus tests are the most stringent of testing, and rearward facing is scientifically proven to be safer. Even an adult would be safer travelling rearward.

The information is out there, legal is not the safest, rearward facing is. To date there are no reports for leg breakages in children who have been in accidents rearward facing.

In a forward facing seat the torso is held in place by the harness, but the head, arms and legs are thrown forward with great force. In a rear facing seat, the whole body is protected by the seat's back rest which absorbs the impact protecting the child's vulnerable neck and head.
In a crash at 50km/h, the neck of a forward facing child is subjected to loads of 180-300kg. In order for a child to avoid injury, these loads should never exceed 130kg. In a rear facing seat the neck loads are only 40-80kg.
Using a rear facing car seat reduces the risk of serious injury or death from 40% to just 8% compared to a forward facing seat.
Edited by: "TakenAtDawn" 30th May
MonkeyMan9030/05/2019 19:54

So are you trying to say that any car seat that's been sold for last god …So are you trying to say that any car seat that's been sold for last god knows how many decades are unsafe? I care very much for my kids safety but I would not put my 3 year old rear facing ever mind until they are 4. Car seats have a very very good record until this date so for me this is just a selling tactic making people buy rear facing with a high price tag


They're not 'unsafe' but rear facing seats are safer. Children aren't uncomfortable at all in rear facing seats - watch any child whilst they are sitting on a chair or the floor and they rarely have their legs in front of them... they'll kneel, cross their legs, tuck them to one side. We bought our eldest an extended harnessing seat when she was 5 as she slumped in her high back booster... she asked to go rear facing in it and opted to stay that way until she outgrew it at age 6 (she's lanky too and was wearing at least age 8 trousers by that point!).
Edited by: "laurieleigh" 30th May
TakenAtDawn30/05/2019 21:37

They pretty much are. UK safety tests for car seats are not the best. …They pretty much are. UK safety tests for car seats are not the best. Rearward impact at 18mph, forward test 31.5mph, and a roll test. Side impact tests are not mandatory under R44/04. 9kg for forward facing is the bare minimum (around 9 months old) as an infant the head is 25% of total body weight and only 6% as an adult, so you risk internal decapitation on the child as the neck can stretch 2inches but it only takes a quarter of an inch for decapitation. Not only that the spine is only fully developed at 6 years old. Forming a solid ring around the spinal cord.Swedish plus tests are the most stringent of testing, and rearward facing is scientifically proven to be safer. Even an adult would be safer travelling rearward.The information is out there, legal is not the safest, rearward facing is. To date there are no reports for leg breakages in children who have been in accidents rearward facing.In a forward facing seat the torso is held in place by the harness, but the head, arms and legs are thrown forward with great force. In a rear facing seat, the whole body is protected by the seat's back rest which absorbs the impact protecting the child's vulnerable neck and head.In a crash at 50km/h, the neck of a forward facing child is subjected to loads of 180-300kg. In order for a child to avoid injury, these loads should never exceed 130kg. In a rear facing seat the neck loads are only 40-80kg. Using a rear facing car seat reduces the risk of serious injury or death from 40% to just 8% compared to a forward facing seat.


And where are the reports of kids been decapitated because they've been forward facing?
Great price, just ordered 2! Thanks OP
laurieleigh30/05/2019 21:42

They're not 'unsafe' but rear facing seats are safer. Children aren't …They're not 'unsafe' but rear facing seats are safer. Children aren't uncomfortable at all in rear facing seats - watch any child whilst they are sitting on a chair or the floor and they rarely have their legs in front of them... they'll kneel, cross their legs, tuck them to one side. We bought our eldest an extended harnessing seat when she was 5 as she slumped in her high back booster... she asked to go rear facing in it and opted to stay that way until she outgrew it at age 6 (she's lanky too and was wearing at least age 8 trousers by that point!).


I have a swivel chair and sometimes my youngest (3 nearly 4) asks to go backwards but I don't allow it as her legs are bent at a 45 degree angle so if god forbid I am involved in an accident from the front of the car then her knees would be straight into her face and I won't allow that to happen.
X3R3S30/05/2019 19:02

Rear facing requires more structural components in the design and attracts …Rear facing requires more structural components in the design and attracts a higher price tag unfortunately. If you decide on forward facing, choose one with a bolster like this for max protection.


No offence but you guys who put your kids in a rear facing car seat up until 4 years old,are you kids really short for their age ? My daughter has just turned 2 and i cant see how she could sit facing the rear without her legs being up by her ears.
feeder1630/05/2019 19:41

Our main car seat was £300 and rotates etc. This is for a low use second …Our main car seat was £300 and rotates etc. This is for a low use second car, was hoping for something a bit cheaper. But seem to be £180 plus for non rotate


If your child is on less than 50 centile joie stages should last until they're at least age 4 and that's regularly sub £100 - if they're even dinkier then you could get away with the joie steadi or tilt which are even cheaper.
MonkeyMan9030/05/2019 21:45

And where are the reports of kids been decapitated because they've been …And where are the reports of kids been decapitated because they've been forward facing?


Have a google - there's plenty of cases unfortunately. One particularly harrowing story was Joel's Journey which was a major reason behind me choosing to rear face my children. I'm unsure how people can be aware of the facts and choose to forward face their precious cargo.
MonkeyMan9030/05/2019 21:47

I have a swivel chair and sometimes my youngest (3 nearly 4) asks to go …I have a swivel chair and sometimes my youngest (3 nearly 4) asks to go backwards but I don't allow it as her legs are bent at a 45 degree angle so if god forbid I am involved in an accident from the front of the car then her knees would be straight into her face and I won't allow that to happen.


Thank you...
Biggunspaul30/05/2019 21:52

No offence but you guys who put your kids in a rear facing car seat up …No offence but you guys who put your kids in a rear facing car seat up until 4 years old,are you kids really short for their age ? My daughter has just turned 2 and i cant see how she could sit facing the rear without her legs being up by her ears.


They don’t care, they only care about what the magical internet recommend for them...
johnszi2330/05/2019 21:59

They don’t care, they only care about what the magical internet recommend f …They don’t care, they only care about what the magical internet recommend for them...


Oh I've done my research in and out of a training centre... Certified car seat fitter. With a full refresher course every 12 months, plus tests, and additional research in child development. Not the University of Google.

If a leg were to be broken in a collision its easier for the body to heal that break than a spinal break!
Edited by: "TakenAtDawn" 30th May
Biggunspaul30/05/2019 21:52

No offence but you guys who put your kids in a rear facing car seat up …No offence but you guys who put your kids in a rear facing car seat up until 4 years old,are you kids really short for their age ? My daughter has just turned 2 and i cant see how she could sit facing the rear without her legs being up by her ears.


My youngest is nearly 4 and is 98th centile (so a big lad!) and still happily sits rear facing- he's yet to pass any comment about being uncomfortable. I've mentioned above in a previous comment that my eldest was 6 (and in age 8 trousers) when she outgrew her rear facing seat... she travelled 850+ miles to the south of France in it without complaint... she's moaned more since she's been in a high back booster They cross their legs, put them up the back of the seat, dangle them over the sides or put them in the space between their seat and the back of the car's seat.
laurieleigh30/05/2019 21:57

Have a google - there's plenty of cases unfortunately. One particularly …Have a google - there's plenty of cases unfortunately. One particularly harrowing story was Joel's Journey which was a major reason behind me choosing to rear face my children. I'm unsure how people can be aware of the facts and choose to forward face their precious cargo.


37759508.jpgWould you be comfortable sat like that? No you wouldn't so don't make your kids.
Edited by: "MonkeyMan90" 30th May
MonkeyMan9030/05/2019 22:09

[Image] Would you be comfortable sat like that? No you wouldn't so don't …[Image] Would you be comfortable sat like that? No you wouldn't so don't make your kids.


Yep you're right, she looks really unhappy and uncomfortable
Ah. That’s a scary video
laurieleigh30/05/2019 22:07

My youngest is nearly 4 and is 98th centile (so a big lad!) and still …My youngest is nearly 4 and is 98th centile (so a big lad!) and still happily sits rear facing- he's yet to pass any comment about being uncomfortable. I've mentioned above in a previous comment that my eldest was 6 (and in age 8 trousers) when she outgrew her rear facing seat... she travelled 850+ miles to the south of France in it without complaint... she's moaned more since she's been in a high back booster They cross their legs, put them up the back of the seat, dangle them over the sides or put them in the space between their seat and the back of the car's seat.


You sure they don't complain because they can't due their knees being in their mouth lol
laurieleigh30/05/2019 22:11

Yep you're right, she looks really unhappy and uncomfortable


She is modelling a car seat for a company she isn't going to look miserable is she. If you're willing to sit your kids in a way you'd hate to sit then you carry on, but I care too much for my kids than to put them in uncomfortable positions.
Biggunspaul30/05/2019 22:15

You sure they don't complain because they can't due their knees being in …You sure they don't complain because they can't due their knees being in their mouth lol


TakenAtDawn30/05/2019 21:58

https://incarsafetycentre.co.uk/safety-centre/car-seat-fact-statshttps://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/mums-harrowing-child-car-seat-16323114https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/car-seats-forward-facing-warning-crash-internal-decapitation-baby-child-paralysed-a8257581.htmlA child is a child not a small adult it's not a ploy to get you to spend extortionate amounts of money. The research has been done, the information is out there and in the UK the data for deaths related to forward facing versus rearward are not recorded. Have a blessed day.


Who's to say the same injuries wouldn't occur if she was rear facing? What if it's a rear end impact?
MonkeyMan9030/05/2019 22:15

She is modelling a car seat for a company she isn't going to look … She is modelling a car seat for a company she isn't going to look miserable is she. If you're willing to sit your kids in a way you'd hate to sit then you carry on, but I care too much for my kids than to put them in uncomfortable positions.


I care too much for my kids to risk them getting killed in a car crash... I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on our parenting techniques.
laurieleigh30/05/2019 22:19

I care too much for my kids to risk them getting killed in a car crash... …I care too much for my kids to risk them getting killed in a car crash... I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on our parenting techniques.


That's a good 1 kids in forward facing car seats are gonna get killed . You've been living so dangerously for god knows how long and all of a sudden its unsafe. Give your head a shake.
Greater safety vs comfort. What would you choose? The answer is really simple...
I did a lot of research on this when getting my kids seats, the biggest danger is kids obviously not in seats, then it’s in seats that are badly fitted and then not strapped in correctly, I chose this seat based on my research and it’s too long ago now to remember it all, statistics show small proportion children die in a car accident some will have been unrestrained and some nothing could have saved them. This seat is isofix which is safest method to prevent incorrect fitting and the bar also is more effective than straps which have to be continually tightened or loosened, the kids try to get their arms out etc. And of course depends on the type of accident you have. Being aware not to put them in puffy clothes in car seats also hugely important but I see it all the time. In my opinion we don’t talk enough about baby car seats and how we should all buy ones that can lay flat in the car given the risk of long journeys with baby breathing (lack of oxygen) and risk of death, again that’s about people understanding babies shouldn’t be left in car seats for long periods max 2 hrs but see many people oblivious to this
MonkeyMan9030/05/2019 22:09

[Image] Would you be comfortable sat like that? No you wouldn't so don't …[Image] Would you be comfortable sat like that? No you wouldn't so don't make your kids.


Children are hyper flexible, joints and ligaments are looser to allow for growth. Children will naturally sit in positions that will be uncomfortable for an adult.

Forward facing seats leave the legs dangling with the seat cutting into mid thighs and they tend to support them on the seat in front. Rearward they can cross their legs and rest them against the seat back. How often do you sit in a seat with your legs dangling and are comfortable? Why do that to your kids and whoever is sat in front of them with feet in their backs?
MonkeyMan9030/05/2019 22:09

[Image] Would you be comfortable sat like that? No you wouldn't so don't …[Image] Would you be comfortable sat like that? No you wouldn't so don't make your kids.


It's more about safety in the event of a very sudden deceleration than attempting armchair comfort for them. Children are so light relative to adults that they can achieve comfort much more easily too
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