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Really good specs. Heat!

Whenever I think I've made my mind up someone posts another...

Hot. Through gritted teeth!

compare this with new dell 15r insprion I7 same price almost same spec

struggle

compare this with new dell 15r insprion I7 same price almost same spec

Rather have an Asus over dell.

I had a Dell before (that i have returned - awfull look) , and Acer (returned to Amazon) and however i don't like Dell products i went for a Dell.



Next day home repair is something that is really important for me ( i don't like to send my laptop away for a repairs !!!)
This is why i stopped to hate Dell.

On Dell website you can pick 17R Special Edition with :
i7-3630QM processor (up to 3.40 GHz,, 6M cache) , 8192MB , 2GB Nvidia GeForce GT 650M 130W , Backlit Keyboard , 1TB HD , 17.3in Full High Definition (1080p) LED Display with Anti-Glare
Buy no BD-drive (only DVD writer) - but it can be installed by yourself .

for £ 701.10

Link for this Dell (remember to choose backlit and add promo code P85KBNN1GNV4SB - they expire today) and cashback but not guaranteed : configure.euro.dell.com/del…s15

So for a bigger screen , better processor (slightly), and better GFX ( GT 650 is about 15-20% better than 635 ) you are baying about the same (£50 difference) so worth to think what do you want.

If bigger screen is not something that you will hate , and this that you will be able to add extra SSD drive, that this laptop have backlit keyboard and better graphic card then go for a Dell Inspiron 17R SE.
If you are looking for better looking laptop , smaller and with medium range GFX , but with Blu-ray then go with Asus.

Honestly if this Asus would have the same spec as Dell ( not looking for a screen size ) i would go for Asus - but overall Dell is a better choice.
Dell 17R Se have a slightly different look than 17R - thanks to anonized aluminium (nice honey mesh).

Full spec from invoice:
Inspiron 17R SE
Inspiron 7720 Basee, Windows 8 64bit, English
Item Description
Base Inspiron 7720 Basee
Memory 8192MB (2x4096) 1600MHz DDR3
Keyboard Internal UK/Irish Qwerty Backlit Keyboard with Multi-touch Touchpad
Video Card 2GB Nvidia GeForce GT 650M 130W
Driver Driver : 2230 Wireless Card
Hard Drive 1TB Serial ATA (5400RPM)
Operating System Windows 8 64bit, English
CD ROM/DVD ROM Optical Drive : 8x DVD+/-RW Optical Drive
Wireless Intel® Centrino® Wireless-N 2230 Card (802.11n + BT 4.0)
Cables 1 Meter Power Cord - UK
Documentation/Disks English Documentation
Bundle N1117S15
2nd Hard Drive Not included
Extended Service 1 yr Next Day In-Home Service with Premium Phone Support
Widi Wireless Display Application
Documentation Documentation Not included
Digital Photography Not included
Order Information Inspiron 7720 Order
Primary Battery Primary 6-cell 48W/HR LI-ION
Processor 3rd generation Intel® Core™ i7-3630QM processor (up to 3.40 GHz,, 6M cache)
Color Choice Switch by Design Studio - Aluminium
Accidental Damage Support No Accidental Damage Protecton
Packaging Packaging : Brown Box
Online Backup No DataSafe Online Backup 2GB
FGA Module A7TRBO1305_047/A7TRBO1401_024/BTO
Online Backup Software Online Back Up Not Included
Optical Software Cyberlink
Additional Hard Drive Not included
CFI Included (Smart Selection) CFI Not Included
Value Added Services 90DAY Premium Software Phone Support
Retail Marker Retail Marker Not included
Retail Financial Marker Retail Financial Marker Not included
Retail Drop In the Box Leaflet Retail Drop In the Box Leaflet Not included
Retail Registration Retail Registration Not included
Retail Information Retail Information Not included
Retail Tech Sheets Retail Tech Sheets Not included
LCD 17.3in Full High Definition (1080p) LED Display with Anti-Glare
Microsoft Application Software Microsoft® Office trial
Non-Microsoft Application Software Resource DVD : Inspiron 7720 Diagnostics and Drivers Win 8
Protect your new PC McAfee® SecurityCenter 15 Month Subscription
Dell Services: Installations No Installation
Operating System Recovery Options OS Windows® Recovery Media Not included






Edited by: "klopikxda" 30th Jan 2013

more money when u buy with os but same without but but it has better Processor 3630QM instead of 2670QM and 650m graphics card the best money per £££ graphics card on the market and has hybrid 750gb hard drive so boots faster
novatech.co.uk/lap…tml
make ur mind up

razorclaw

for an extra £30 you could get this: MSI CX61 - 3rd gen i7, more ram, … for an extra £30 you could get this: MSI CX61 - 3rd gen i7, more ram, bigger hard drive and faster graphics + Windows 8



or this one

how is 17r se compare to 17r is there huge difference
like the main body are they the same or different and did u get extended warranty or just the normal one as I really wanna dell only reason they 've amazing spec and really cheap but I read all these comments about wifi troubles build quality so I'm really confuse pls help guys

£650 quid for a "gaming" laptop, you've got to be ******* me!

vwdan

£650 quid for a "gaming" laptop, you've got to be ******* me!

no that's good £1000 is 4 1 that can compete with a desktop price u pay 4 been mobile!

Ive had one of these for a year, great laptop. I use it for lans weekly and it gets used daily as a regular laptop.

Its been faultless, and with a SSD installed its been a great performer. I didnt want a "proper" gaming laptop, but glad I went for this in the end. Ive added 16gb of 1600mhz ram, even though Asus say its max is 8gb at 1333.

Any questions, let me know

The GT635 graphics are pretty weak and certainly not "gaming laptop" standard. You'll have problems running modern games at 1080p above anything but "very low" for graphics settings.

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razorclaw

for an extra £30 you could get this: MSI CX61 - 3rd gen i7, more ram, … for an extra £30 you could get this: MSI CX61 - 3rd gen i7, more ram, bigger hard drive and faster graphics + Windows 8



yes, wanted to post this one, but... Gaming pc and windows 8 doesn`t look attractive for me yeach both choice look good for me.

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robo989

The GT635 graphics are pretty weak and certainly not "gaming laptop" … The GT635 graphics are pretty weak and certainly not "gaming laptop" standard. You'll have problems running modern games at 1080p above anything but "very low" for graphics settings.


True, but where is no BIG difference between all mobile gpu`s in laptops under 800£. If u found better when this and CHEAPER, let us know Msi is 15% better in all spec and 5% more expensive. But MSI.. damn worst Brand i know after Medion.

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vwdan

£650 quid for a "gaming" laptop, you've got to be ******* me!


I would laugh of any laptop which i can call "good gaming laptop". I never had and will have any laptop for gaming, but my friend looking for something around £600. Trying to help. My self using GTX 680 gpu 27 inch desktop and so on, so i will never look back and even think about laptop GOOD laptop. Only for surf.
Edited by: "artcheezzz" 31st Jan 2013

Most people aren't geeks though so don't really care if they're running the game at full graphics 1080p res

chris2010uk

Most people aren't geeks though so don't really care if they're running … Most people aren't geeks though so don't really care if they're running the game at full graphics 1080p res



by dont really care you really mean cant afford.

It comes with a 635M and you class it as a gaming laptop?

chris2010uk

Most people aren't geeks though so don't really care if they're running … Most people aren't geeks though so don't really care if they're running the game at full graphics 1080p res


What is this I don't even...

If the processor was i3 and the hard disk was an SSD this would be a Hot UK Deal.

artcheezzz

Msi is 15% better in all spec and 5% more expensive. But MSI.. damn … Msi is 15% better in all spec and 5% more expensive. But MSI.. damn worst Brand i know after Medion.


MSI is also a lot lighter, this Asus at 2.79kg it's too much.
I had a few MSI laptops and they were the best ones I owned. I recommended them to friends and they were all very impressed with the value for money and reliability.

Good deal if you switch the RAM out for something faster

Capitalised "GAMING LAPTOP" in title = not a gaming laptop.

I had this a year or so ago.

Played Skyrim on high settings with a few tweaks and would play on ultra high when connected to my 1080p TV via hdmi

THRILLER-DEEJAY

Rather have an Asus over dell.



Rather have a Dell over an Asus

Hardcore gamer - desktop
Casual gamer - laptop or desktop

Casual gamer will enjoy playing with Medium/High , ''Hardcore'' gamer not (EVERYTHING HAS TO BE ULTRA!!!!).

This is why you can't accept laptop to be used as a computer for gaming.


About laptop for gaming: in relation to price/performance the winner is GT 650M (for a laptop up to £700).
Anything below this graphic card for a laptop at this price shouldn't be considered.

Edited by: "klopikxda" 31st Jan 2013

Cold - description wrong - This is not a gaming laptop.

I have the Dell inspiron 17R SE as mentioned earlier but an even a better spec - has Blu ray player and 2 tb of hard disk space - for £746 - refurbished by dell-= ( looks like brand new, no marks whatsoever, runs very fast and is the quie.test laptop I have ever had and is the closest I have ever had to a "GAMING LAPTOP".

artcheezzz

True, but where is no BIG difference between all mobile gpu`s in laptops … True, but where is no BIG difference between all mobile gpu`s in laptops under 800£. If u found better when this and CHEAPER, let us know Msi is 15% better in all spec and 5% more expensive. But MSI.. damn worst Brand i know after Medion.



Acer M3 / M5 has 640m Kepler ,

640m has 384 pipelines vs 144 on the 635

boeoz

What is this I don't even...



Pretty obvious what he's trying to say, and somewhat true. But then this is a being called a "gaming" laptop which it isn't, people who aren't geeks would just be looking for a "laptop" and the "gaming" bit would be assumed that a laptop can play games - hence makes his point ridiculous.

Also, in terms of the 1080p/GT635M combo, not being able to play at 1080p isn't a big deal but then why bother having a 1080p screen, that money could have been redirected towards a better graphics card and this really then could have been a gaming laptop.

I'm sorry but sticking a GT635 in a laptop with a 1080p screen is just a complete mismatch and certainly a bad buy whatever you want it for.

I have this laptop and it is utter Brilliant! I ave no trouble on any game, and the processor is very quick! When i purchased mine i was going to Upgrade the RAM to 8gb, however i just haven't felt the need to do so, as i have no problems with it. Please be aware that this does pickup fingerprints VERY easily.

HOT From me!!

klopikxda

I had a Dell before (that i have returned - awfull look) , and Acer … I had a Dell before (that i have returned - awfull look) , and Acer (returned to Amazon) and however i don't like Dell products i went for a Dell.Next day home repair is something that is really important for me ( i don't like to send my laptop away for a repairs !!!)This is why i stopped to hate Dell.On Dell website you can pick 17R Special Edition with : i7-3630QM processor (up to 3.40 GHz,, 6M cache) , 8192MB , 2GB Nvidia GeForce GT 650M 130W , Backlit Keyboard , 1TB HD , 17.3in Full High Definition (1080p) LED Display with Anti-GlareBuy no BD-drive (only DVD writer) - but it can be installed by yourself .for £ 701.10Link for this Dell (remember to choose backlit and add promo code P85KBNN1GNV4SB - they expire today) and cashback but not guaranteed : http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&kc=&oc=n0017s15So for a bigger screen , better processor (slightly), and better GFX ( GT 650 is about 15-20% better than 635 ) you are baying about the same (£50 difference) so worth to think what do you want.If bigger screen is not something that you will hate , and this that you will be able to add extra SSD drive, that this laptop have backlit keyboard and better graphic card then go for a Dell Inspiron 17R SE. If you are looking for better looking laptop , smaller and with medium range GFX , but with Blu-ray then go with Asus.Honestly if this Asus would have the same spec as Dell ( not looking for a screen size ) i would go for Asus - but overall Dell is a better choice.Dell 17R Se have a slightly different look than 17R - thanks to anonized aluminium (nice honey mesh).Full spec from invoice:Inspiron 17R SEInspiron 7720 Basee, Windows 8 64bit, English Item DescriptionBase Inspiron 7720 BaseeMemory 8192MB (2x4096) 1600MHz DDR3Keyboard Internal UK/Irish Qwerty Backlit Keyboard with Multi-touch TouchpadVideo Card 2GB Nvidia GeForce GT 650M 130WDriver Driver : 2230 Wireless CardHard Drive 1TB Serial ATA (5400RPM)Operating System Windows 8 64bit, EnglishCD ROM/DVD ROM Optical Drive : 8x DVD+/-RW Optical DriveWireless Intel® Centrino® Wireless-N 2230 Card (802.11n + BT 4.0)Cables 1 Meter Power Cord - UKDocumentation/Disks English DocumentationBundle N1117S152nd Hard Drive Not includedExtended Service 1 yr Next Day In-Home Service with Premium Phone SupportWidi Wireless Display ApplicationDocumentation Documentation Not includedDigital Photography Not includedOrder Information Inspiron 7720 OrderPrimary Battery Primary 6-cell 48W/HR LI-IONProcessor 3rd generation Intel® Core™ i7-3630QM processor (up to 3.40 GHz,, 6M cache)Color Choice Switch by Design Studio - AluminiumAccidental Damage Support No Accidental Damage ProtectonPackaging Packaging : Brown BoxOnline Backup No DataSafe Online Backup 2GBFGA Module A7TRBO1305_047/A7TRBO1401_024/BTOOnline Backup Software Online Back Up Not IncludedOptical Software CyberlinkAdditional Hard Drive Not includedCFI Included (Smart Selection) CFI Not IncludedValue Added Services 90DAY Premium Software Phone SupportRetail Marker Retail Marker Not includedRetail Financial Marker Retail Financial Marker Not includedRetail Drop In the Box Leaflet Retail Drop In the Box Leaflet Not includedRetail Registration Retail Registration Not includedRetail Information Retail Information Not includedRetail Tech Sheets Retail Tech Sheets Not includedLCD 17.3in Full High Definition (1080p) LED Display with Anti-GlareMicrosoft Application Software Microsoft® Office trialNon-Microsoft Application Software Resource DVD : Inspiron 7720 Diagnostics and Drivers Win 8Protect your new PC McAfee® SecurityCenter 15 Month SubscriptionDell Services: Installations No InstallationOperating System Recovery Options OS Windows® Recovery Media Not included



I PROMISE you the 17R SE is a very nice stylish laptop. It has a black aluminium finish (NOT plastic!) and i love mine to bits. Its far superior to my crappy Asus work laptop. This Asus deal is very poor compared to what you get from Dell.

I think people who are complaining about dell have had the lowly spec-ed dells in the past which have a plastic finish, the 17R SE is ALUMINIUM. Well worth the money you pay for it.

Looking at the specs more closely I can only conclude from the choice of components that this laptop was designed by an idiot.

Check comparison for a games from here :

notebookcheck.net/NVI…tml

And compare results for graphic cards for games like Skyrim or BF3 in Ultra and High settings.

Check this and you will know why it is better to look for GT 650M or higher ( but it will not be easy to find nothing better than Gt 650M for less than £700) . Dell Inspiron 17 R mentioned by me before will be in this price range, and will have few more extras.

Edited by: "klopikxda" 31st Jan 2013

razorclaw

for an extra £30 you could get this: MSI CX61 - 3rd gen i7, more ram, … for an extra £30 you could get this: MSI CX61 - 3rd gen i7, more ram, bigger hard drive and faster graphics + Windows 8


You know Windows 8 is a negatice point, right?

Rest of the spec is nice though, however having owned 2 MSI laptops in the past, I could never recommend them to anyone else.
Asus make super quality laptops, and if I was in the market for one I may have gone for this.

Save yourself some money and get something that can actually be just about called a "gaming laptop" with an Acer Timeline M3.

Just make sure you get the one with a GT640 in it.

It will kick this piece of crap up the bottom in performance and weight. No 1080p screen, but at this price you shouldn't be looking for one.

£500-ish on ebuyer last I checked.

klopikxda

Here is comparison for Graphic cards for Skyrim in Ultra settings :Your … Here is comparison for Graphic cards for Skyrim in Ultra settings :Your text hereand in High :Your text hereCheck this and you will know why it is better to look for GT 650M or higher ( but it will not be easy to find nothing better than Gt 650M for less than £700) . Dell Inspiron 17 R mentioned by me before will be in this price range, and will have few more extras.




You're link doesn't work and a GT640 will do.

A GT640 is worlds apart from anything below and from there up performance increases very incrementally in the nvidia line.

Choppa

no that's good £1000 is 4 1 that can compete with a desktop price u pay … no that's good £1000 is 4 1 that can compete with a desktop price u pay 4 been mobile!



Sorry, what? Have you thought about using words instead of numbers to construct sentences? This allows other people to read them.

Calling it a gaming laptop is pushing it. The GT635 is a GT555 with a sticker on the chip, and a GT555 will be hard pushed at 1080P.

Otherwise it is a very very nice machine. I bought one myself last year when it had the non-HD screen and the 555.
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