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DELL D420 CORE DUO 1.2 GHZ LAPTOP - 1.5GB - 60GB - WI FI - XP PRO £199.99 free delivery @ BigPockets
DELL D420 CORE DUO 1.2 GHZ LAPTOP - 1.5GB - 60GB - WI FI - XP PRO £199.99 free delivery @ BigPockets

DELL D420 CORE DUO 1.2 GHZ LAPTOP - 1.5GB - 60GB - WI FI - XP PRO £199.99 free delivery @ BigPockets

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Product description Dell D420 Laptop
CPU / Processor Intel Core Duo 1.2Ghz
Hard Drive Size 60 Gb Min
RAM / Memory Size 1.5GB DDR
Optical Drive(s) None Included
Network / Connectivity b/g Wi-Fi, 10/100/1000 NIC, 56K Modem
Ports Serial, docking connector, 2 USB, VGA, headphone/speaker out, infrared port, RJ-11, RJ-45, AC power
Screen / Resolution 12.1 Inch TFT Screen
Additional USB2.0 / AC Adaptor / UK Keyboard,
Condition Used
Warranty 6 Months Warranty. DOA Warranty on Battery
Operating System Win XP Pro License, OS is pre-installed but no Restore Discs are supplied

114 Comments

voted hot.

bigger, and heavier also . . .

Holy hell that seems like a scorching deal - am I missing something here??

jpearn;5130279

bigger, and heavier also . . .



Bigger yes, but with the bonuses bigger brings - 12.1" is still classed as UP.

Condition: Used.

Cold

:pirate: CJ :pirate:

Remember this is not new when comparing it to others. Still 6 months warranty so not bad.

Its a garbage spec. used?

Garbage spec compared to like for like (i.e. netbooks) .....how?

6 year old BMW 5 Series vs new Ford Focus . . .

call it garbage i vote hot

£100 would be a fairer price in my honest opinion for something this old.

Absolutely - I vote hot too.

Age is somewhat irrelevant. You are talking about what was THEN a "Ultraportable sub-notebook" which would now be called a "netbook". Then, you are talking about the fact that this was over £1000 when it first came out, compared to netbooks at about £200.

Now compare the fact it is £200 compared to a netbook at £200, with much better specs.

All "age" has done is let it drop into a new market, but with its high end specs, its like a performance driven netbook.

1.5kg isnt heavy at all, and personally I think the extra size (and therefore better keyboard and screen res) is worth the trade off. Its still ultraportable.

Come on guys, before you go purely on age, look at the specs and realise nothing can touch it at this price!

Original Poster

And this has a core duo CPU with 1.5GB

Just to let you guys know the Intel Core Duo 1.2Ghz processor in this laptop is a little more powerful that the dual core atom 330's you get in desktop nettops.

These are averagely going for about £150 + £15 shipping on fleabay.

Fantastic laptop, leagues above modern net books. Garbage spec for it's class? Incorrect.

Infact atoms are pretty lousy performance wise, their 1.6Ghz core isn't even as fast a 1.2Ghz Pentium 3 from 10 years back. Of course, it's not all about speed

Very tempted to get one of these dells, but for not much more you can get something brand new ... good deal though. heat.

And it's 2nd hand from Bigpockets, with 6 months warranty . . . with all the above caveats and driver issues, lack of Windows 7 full support and old GFX etc.

Why did Intel ditch the Core Duo for the Atom ??

It's not just the age and weedy specs that make this deal cold for me is the term "used". Having had a few Dell laptops over the years, none of which have been abused, two have failed well within warranty. There is no way I would pay £200 for this. For one thing if batteries are not "DOA" then they are likely to have very little lifetime left in them.

TrevorPH;5130663

These are averagely going for about £150 + £15 shipping on fleabay.



Not at all.

Going from £200-270 upwards, plus £15 delivery.

Cannot see one single merchant selling at less than £200.

Also, warranty from bigpockets.

Who wants windows 7 anyway? It's a laptop meant for some office and email on the move ... am I missing something?

Seem to sell for similar price on fleabay, but you're warranty is going to be worth something with Bigpockets.

just watched one end on ebay for £185 + £15 p+P

jpearn;5130682

Why did Intel ditch the Core Duo for the Atom ??



They didnt....they just released the Atom as a "budget" cheap!

MrShed;5130701

Not at all.Going from £200-270 upwards, plus £15 delivery.Cannot see one s … Not at all.Going from £200-270 upwards, plus £15 delivery.Cannot see one single merchant selling at less than £200.Also, warranty from bigpockets.



Look in the completed items section at D420's and that is the price they go for. The ones that sell that is. Cheapest is £130+£15 but that's a lower spec (less RAM). Otherwise the going rate seems to be £160 + £15 for this sort of spec. The highest price one that's sold from the UK is £275 and that's way out in front of the next nearest - the usual top price is the same as this at £199 + shipping.

I can see that some people will never be convinced that a proper business class ultra portable with 12 inch screen and full OS, with dual core processor, is less worth paying £200 for than paying £250 or so for a little scrap of plastic with basic budget processor and 9 inch screen!!!

Strange what trends do!

MrShed;5130701

Also, warranty from bigpockets.



Well worth the paper it's printed on By why worry about something that's old that could fail or get something new, with a better life expectancy ??

By that token, I assume we should never buy second hand cars?

I can see that some people will never be convinced that a proper business … I can see that some people will never be convinced that a proper business class ultra portable with 12 inch screen and full OS, with dual core processor, is less worth paying £200 for than paying £250 or so for a little scrap of plastic with basic budget processor and 9 inch screen!!!



Agreed, these D400s have fantastic build quality designed for the corporate business sector, they keep on going. I'm afraid my experience with D400s has only been very positive. Great docking stations and batteries available.

In life I'd rather buy a second hand VW etc than a brand new Ford Ka ... New netbooks are ok, they don't have the quality though.

By that token, I assume we should never buy second hand cars?




lol beat me to it I see.

In life I'd rather buy a second hand VW etc than a brand new Ford Ka ..

i voted hot but my gripe about is the cpu clock speed. way too slow comapred to a 1.6ghz atom. plus side there 1.5gb ram and low cost.

MrShed;5130743

By that token, I assume we should never buy second hand cars?



Mmm, lost analogy . . . I guess you still think Skodas are kool ?? !!

Computerman;5131069

i voted hot but my gripe about is the cpu clock speed. way too slow … i voted hot but my gripe about is the cpu clock speed. way too slow comapred to a 1.6ghz atom. plus side there 1.5gb ram and low cost.



I suspect that a 1.2GHz core2duo will be faster than a 1.6GHz Atom - and that's not counting the fact that there are 2 cores on the 1.2GHz one. I like the D420, it's a nice machine and you could easily pay more than £1000 for it when it was new. It's also got a 'proper' size keyboard on it and the screen is larger size and a better resolution than the netbooks

TrevorPH;5131216

I suspect that a 1.2GHz core2duo will be faster than a 1.6GHz Atom - and … I suspect that a 1.2GHz core2duo will be faster than a 1.6GHz Atom - and that's not counting the fact that there are 2 cores on the 1.2GHz one. I like the D420, it's a nice machine and you could easily pay more than £1000 for it when it was new. It's also got a 'proper' size keyboard on it and the screen is larger size and a better resolution than the netbooks



Correct. The 1.2 core duo will be ALOT faster than a 1.6 Atom which is a stripped down budget proc. Some people still fall for the "I have more hertz in my processor than you do" argument which for those who knows systems architecture knows it means diddly squat when used as a single performance indicator.

This is an excellent deal when comparing against a new "Netbook" of this pricerange.

These old lattitudes are way better quality than newer laptops too. Incredibly rugged and a great feel to them too. Bargain!

So the XP Pro licence has run out now and has no updates vs the netbooks

Err... "On 14 April 2009, Windows XP and its family of operating systems were moved from Mainstream Support to the Extended Support phase as it marks the progression of the legacy operating system through the Microsoft Support Lifecycle Policy. During the Extended Support Phase, Microsoft will continue to provide security updates every month for Windows XP, however free technical support, warranty claims and design changes are no longer being offered.

On 8 April 2014, all Windows XP support, including security updates and security-related hotfixes will be terminated"

Only another 5 years to go then.

can you install osx on one of these??

jpearn;5131630

So the XP Pro licence has run out now and has no updates vs the netbooks



No. I don't know where you got that idea from. Rather pessimistic of you.

It has a legit XP Pro license so will update through Windows Update fine.

A 1.6ghz Atom 230 faster than a Core Duo 1.2ghz processor?? Firstly the Atom 230 is a single core processor whereas the Core Duo is a dual core!

Secondly the the Atom is an in-order type processor architechure whereas the Core Duo is an out of order type processor. In-order processors are far less efficient per mhz than out of order processor types but are cheaper to make,require less transistors and have lower power consumption.They can also be clocked higher for a given TDP to negate some of the performance issues.

In fact the first Asus Eee had a Celeron M(based on the Pentium M) clocked at 900mhz which was slightly faster than the 1.6ghz Atom but was more expensive to make and had higher power consumption. However the Celeron M was usually underclocked to 630mhz to improve battery life.

Here are some more details:

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Here are some benchmarks comparing a 1.6ghz Atom to a 1.2ghz Celeron:

tomshardware.com/rev…tml

Also the D420 is business type notebook.

Compared to most netbooks it has the following advantages:
1.)FAR better build quality with a reinforced chassis made of magnesium alloy.
2.)Faster processor and higher overall performance.
3.)A larger screen.

The argument against XP is a bit pointless as most current netbooks either have Linux or XP pre-installed anyway.
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