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Dell GX620 Small Form Factor Pc Tower: P4 3.4, Xp Pro, 80gb, 512ram, Dvd Rw, (refubished) - £99.99 delivered at Big Pockets.
Dell GX620 Small Form Factor Pc Tower: P4 3.4, Xp Pro, 80gb, 512ram, Dvd Rw, (refubished) - £99.99 delivered at Big Pockets.

Dell GX620 Small Form Factor Pc Tower: P4 3.4, Xp Pro, 80gb, 512ram, Dvd Rw, (refubished) - £99.99 delivered at Big Pockets.

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not the best pc, in the world, but not the worst. considering it has windows xp professional pre-installed. with the addition of a cheap ram upgrade and monitor/lcd, it would be great for the kids or nan for those on a budget or want to save room. i haven't got one myself (i have a core 2 system with 4 gigs of ram & vista) but i used to have a pc of similar spec, and was probably just as quick, thanks to xp being so much better. not sure whether this is hot or cold, i'll let you decide.

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the motherboard also has 4 slots, so it could be upgraded to 4 gigabytes. (xp only being 3gb effective)

possible monitor combiantion (dell) : hotukdeals.com/ite…ee/

i'm presuming the ram is the usuall ddr 240 pc-5300 stuff (would like someone to confirm what type)

Doesnt seem like abad deal considering the XP pro licence is most expensive bit there! :O

Looks a good deal, I just wonder how badly scratched etc a refurb will be...

Looks like a good deal - I have always found Bigpockets stuff good value. Could also run UBUNTU on this machine very easily, once a suitable monitor is found.

If you're going to run ubuntu, you could probably get this PC cheaper without the xp pro licence.

Why is is Dell PCs get a constant slating and battering on the pages of this site, yet when as an old banger of one like this comes along, the heat is pouring on!

Wasn't it in this era that Dell PCs were terrible, as we are constantly reminded of whenever a NEW Dell gets posted, even though most will now agree, they have sorted out a lot of the past problems? Just wondering why all of a sudden they are "not the worst?"

I think it is quite a claim too, "not the worst" I wasn't aware that anyone else (other than one-offs or in the free papers) was selling stuff this bad, let alone worse! Certainly there are some worse ones on this site, such as those at 80 quid, but apart from there, I wonder! I couldn't find any on Morgan's site, and they don't half sell some junk.

It is as fast as a "core 2 system with 4 gigs of ram & vista" You really need your PC looking at, maybe you could try that with Ubuntu instead.

If you really want an XP licence, I suppose it's one way of getting one!

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nihcaj;4414133

wonder! I couldn't find any on Morgan's site, and they don't half sell … wonder! I couldn't find any on Morgan's site, and they don't half sell some junk.It is as fast as a "core 2 system with 4 gigs of ram & vista" You really need your PC looking at, maybe you could try that with Ubuntu instead.



i'm not saying that exactly, i ment for everyday tasks, i use fruity loops for music production and have msn, a 140gb+ sized itunes, facebook & torrents open nowadays at the same time usually (compared to just msn t'internet explorer about 2 years back), so it's probably why i don't notice much difference, i hate linux and my vista is a knock off copy lol (probably why it's a bit buggy at times), and i'm just saying, because i find xp such a reliable system. i was just trying to help by posting a deal for everyday people, not 'ooh bun bbc 2' users or us who tend to build our own pc's ourselves, i wouldn't really call it a bad era, it's only really 2/3 years old. i just suggested it's not a bad deal.

good deal.

Could this take a RAM upgrade? Am assuming that 512 would be replaceable/upgradeable. Many thanks.

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Using one of these(same spec) at work at the mo. Good for the price, ideal for an internet PC. Not sure what kind of graphics card it has!?

Good deal for a basic prebuilt system. You could build something better for that money though, as always HOT!

Throbbing Beast;4415112

Using one of these(same spec) at work at the mo. Good for the price, … Using one of these(same spec) at work at the mo. Good for the price, ideal for an internet PC. Not sure what kind of graphics card it has!?



Has integrated Intel Extreme

I have got a GX270 which is quite old, bought with almost same config, tried to upgrade the RAM from 512MB, and found out that these systems use quite unique ram which is expensive compared to normal ram by atleast 2-3 times !!

Beware if you are thinking of upgrading the RAM. my two cents.

very hot thanks....been looking for a cheap 2nd cpu...heat added:thumbsup:

[FONT=Verdana]Just to confirm, system uses:
Memory Type - 533 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
Memory connectors - Four Memory modules supported 256 MB, 512 MB, 1 GB, or 2 GB non-ECC
Minimum memory - Dual-channel: 512 MB Single-channel: 256 MB Maximum memory 4 GB[/FONT]

JustExtreme;4415113

Good deal for a basic prebuilt system. You could build something better … Good deal for a basic prebuilt system. You could build something better for that money though, as always HOT!



For £99? Including an XP Licence? All delivered?

JustExtreme;4415113

Good deal for a basic prebuilt system. You could build something better … Good deal for a basic prebuilt system. You could build something better for that money though, as always HOT!



Are you trolling? Theres no way you could build this for £100.The XP licence alone is worth almost the asking price.

andemg;4415159

I have got a GX270 which is quite old, bought with almost same config, … I have got a GX270 which is quite old, bought with almost same config, tried to upgrade the RAM from 512MB, and found out that these systems use quite unique ram which is expensive compared to normal ram by atleast 2-3 times !!Beware if you are thinking of upgrading the RAM. my two cents.



yes probably DDR ram not DDR2...so a far more expensive upgrade unless you can get cheapos on fleabay

Cost about £25 to put 2GB RAM in it.

nihcaj;4414133

Why is is Dell PCs get a constant slating and battering on the pages of … Why is is Dell PCs get a constant slating and battering on the pages of this site, yet when as an old banger of one like this comes along, the heat is pouring on!Wasn't it in this era that Dell PCs were terrible, as we are constantly reminded of whenever a NEW Dell gets posted, even though most will now agree, they have sorted out a lot of the past problems? Just wondering why all of a sudden they are "not the worst?"I think it is quite a claim too, "not the worst" I wasn't aware that anyone else (other than one-offs or in the free papers) was selling stuff this bad, let alone worse! Certainly there are some worse ones on this site, such as those at 80 quid, but apart from there, I wonder! I couldn't find any on Morgan's site, and they don't half sell some junk.It is as fast as a "core 2 system with 4 gigs of ram & vista" You really need your PC looking at, maybe you could try that with Ubuntu instead.If you really want an XP licence, I suppose it's one way of getting one!



You have some valid points but Dell tend to make there systems with non standard parts i.e. a non standard DVI port of on the Optiplex 755's. They have also in the past used there own type of fans on the case of the box which are very hard to replace example is the Dell Dimension 8400 the 4th cable of the CPU is needed to monitor the temperature and can't be disabled in the BIOS . Also the motherboards they make are generic which makes them harder to replace as you if you have to replace it like 4 like you have to search for Dell 755 motherboard not the motherboard model. Also getting drivers for dell computers is harder even if you put in the Dell serial number on the Dell website you still are left with a huge list of drivers to download for every version of the motherboard Dell has ever made.

So from a support point of a view they can be a pain in the *** for a home user that does not know anything about computers there ok. For someone working in IT there a no go really I would rather build my own. So it really is personal preference really at the end of the day swings and round bouts I guess.

jamesdew;4415267

Are you trolling? Theres no way you could build this for £100.The XP … Are you trolling? Theres no way you could build this for £100.The XP licence alone is worth almost the asking price.



Trolling apart, I agree it would be hard to build... where would you find the bits! When I looked, I could only find a secondhand processor for example, and it was 80 quid!

slinkydonkey;4415429

You have some valid points but Dell tend to make there systems with non … You have some valid points but Dell tend to make there systems with non standard parts




Not now they don't

nihcaj;4414133

Why is is Dell PCs get a constant slating and battering on the pages of … Why is is Dell PCs get a constant slating and battering on the pages of this site, yet when as an old banger of one like this comes along, the heat is pouring on!Wasn't it in this era that Dell PCs were terrible, as we are constantly reminded of whenever a NEW Dell gets posted, even though most will now agree, they have sorted out a lot of the past problems? Just wondering why all of a sudden they are "not the worst?"I think it is quite a claim too, "not the worst" I wasn't aware that anyone else (other than one-offs or in the free papers) was selling stuff this bad, let alone worse! Certainly there are some worse ones on this site, such as those at 80 quid, but apart from there, I wonder! I couldn't find any on Morgan's site, and they don't half sell some junk.It is as fast as a "core 2 system with 4 gigs of ram & vista" You really need your PC looking at, maybe you could try that with Ubuntu instead.If you really want an XP licence, I suppose it's one way of getting one!



I'm not sure what point you're making but the GX620's are solid machines, while their hardware isn't cutting edge it's more than fast enough for general use. For general use I'd say people prefer to have XP rather than Linux which in this pricerange is the choice as there's few machines with XP in this pricerange.

As for the comments above about being non-standard parts and difficult to service, I find the GX620 to be a very reliable machine with hardly any failures (280 was ok as well, 270 was a disaster) - we have hundreds of them from the time they came out and hardly any repairs have been required. Additionally parts are easy to find on ebay and Dell provide full service manuals if you do need to provide any parts.

John

nihcaj;4415448

Not now they don't



I work for a company that buys Dell computers and I also fix computers in a part-time job you clearly have do idea what you are talking about please only leave comments on thighs you know that you are talking about clearly Dell computers is not one of them. :whistling:

Also the XP serial key on the side of Dell machine will not work with your standard XP PRO CD if you did mange to get the right CD you would have to phone Microsoft and beg them active it on your new computer thus deactivating on this one that's assuming they would even do that.

slinkydonkey;4415491

... please only leave comments on thighs you know that you are talking … ... please only leave comments on thighs you know that you are talking about ...



Who's thighs do you leave comments on? :w00t:

fayraz;4415367

Cost about £25 to put 2GB RAM in it.



maybe you'd like to give a link where you can get 2gb of DDR ram for this price....this ebuyer link illustrates that DDR ram is not cheap

ebuyer.com/cat…MHz

currychops;4415528

maybe you'd like to give a link where you can get 2gb of DDR ram for this … maybe you'd like to give a link where you can get 2gb of DDR ram for this price....this ebuyer link illustrates that DDR ram is not cheaphttp://www.ebuyer.com/cat/Memory---Desktop/subcat/DDR-333MHz



I presume this is the machine:

crucial.com/uk/…tor)

Wow, there are some high horses in this thread!

currychops;4415528

maybe you'd like to give a link where you can get 2gb of DDR ram for this … maybe you'd like to give a link where you can get 2gb of DDR ram for this price....this ebuyer link illustrates that DDR ram is not cheaphttp://www.ebuyer.com/cat/Memory---Desktop/subcat/DDR-333MHz



It uses DDR2

currychops;4415528

maybe you'd like to give a link where you can get 2gb of DDR ram for this … maybe you'd like to give a link where you can get 2gb of DDR ram for this price....this ebuyer link illustrates that DDR ram is not cheaphttp://www.ebuyer.com/cat/Memory---Desktop/subcat/DDR-333MHz



That's 333MHz DDR RAM you have searched for - this one takes 533 MHz DDR2 which is cheaper:
ebuyer.com/sea…y=0

good price, these babies go for more than that online (much more) don't argue with me if you think they're not worth it but ppl seem to like these quite a lot

currychops;4415528

maybe you'd like to give a link where you can get 2gb of DDR ram for this … maybe you'd like to give a link where you can get 2gb of DDR ram for this price....this ebuyer link illustrates that DDR ram is not cheaphttp://www.ebuyer.com/cat/Memory---Desktop/subcat/DDR-333MHz



publicnme;4415570

It uses DDR2



That's what I thought, I have posted a link from the Crucial site but needs to be verified before being posted.

What are you guys talking about?! This takes DDR2 RAM not DDR1.

Was wondering about these

slinkydonkey;4415491

I work for a company that buys Dell computers and I also fix computers in … I work for a company that buys Dell computers and I also fix computers in a part-time job you clearly have do idea what you are talking about please only leave comments on thighs you know that you are talking about clearly Dell computers is not one of them. :whistling:



Is that what you tell the punters so they think they are getting value for money?
Nice! ;-)

I have two Dells in front of me, an Inspiron 530 and a Vostro 410 both Quad core, less than a year old... they are completely standard gear... other than the stickers and labels! Come across plenty of others too... next door, friends, my family even!

Inside: Foxconn motherboard (bit cheap, I wouldn't rush to buy Foxconn if I was building it I suppose), Hitachi HD, I put half of the RAM in myself, that was Micron from Crucial, it came with Samsung memory, It has a Liteon Power supply which is nice and quiet and shoves a surprising amount of power out :-) One has integrated graphics, the other has a PCI-E ATI card in it, the sort of thing available anywhere for under 35 quid.

About the only thing I couldn't get anywhere else is the BIOS and DVD Drive firmware, but even those can be replaced by gear manufactured by other makers! A new motherboard or Drive doesn't HAVE to be Dell to make the rest of the bits work! The holes in the box are the same as any others! I put a Seagate SATA HD in one just last week, fits like a dream, didn't even have to undo any screws other than the two to take off the side panel!

What's all this non-standard stuff Dell are supposed to be using then?

I have built dozens of PCs in the past, it's not rocket science, especially with standard gear available anywhere! It's never been easier, just they buy more, and can put them together cheaper than I can buy the bits!

Dells apparently used to be full of kit manufactured for them, I never bought them then, as I was too busy building machines for me and everyone I knew, it was SO much cheaper that way then - but I suppose one of the reasons they are so cheap now, it's all the same stuff everyone else uses! I wouldn't have bought one back then, but as they make them cheaper than I can, then now I probably wouldn't buy one anywhere else!


Erm, they don't :?

DELL are as good as any other supplier - and much better than some !

Nope - they were pretty much the same standard that they are today. Well built machines, with the odd none-standard part. Sometimes a pain to repair, but excellent parts availability make it only a financial pain.

nihcaj;4414133

Why is is Dell PCs get a constant slating and battering on the pages of … Why is is Dell PCs get a constant slating and battering on the pages of this site...

nihcaj;4414133

Wasn't it in this era that Dell PCs were terrible

slinkydonkey

You have some valid points but Dell tend to make there systems with non … You have some valid points but Dell tend to make there systems with non standard parts

slinkydonkey;4415516

Also the XP serial key on the side of Dell machine will not work with … Also the XP serial key on the side of Dell machine will not work with your standard XP PRO CD if you did mange to get the right CD you would have to phone Microsoft and beg them active it on your new computer thus deactivating on this one that's assuming they would even do that.

nihcaj;4415835

What's all this non-standard stuff Dell are supposed to be using then?

nihcaj;4415835

Dells apparently used to be...


I have no idea what DELLs you maintain, but some DELLs use a whole host of random none-standard parts !
For example, the crazy 6" monitor cables as included with the Optiplex 755s to connect a standard pair of DVI/VGA displays to the none-standard video port on the half-height video card...

Slinkeydonkey is quite right.

Not quite true - your DELL Product Key will work just fine, as long as you couple it with a Windows XP Pro OEM disc. You will have to telephone the activation hotline to activate the install - but there's no begging required, you simply enter a string of numbers into your handset, and receive a return string from the Human or Robotic operator. You also need to specify your Computer is a DELL, if the Human operator asks.

Cases, case fans, processor coolers, motherboards, power supplies, display cables, the list goes on. Some DELLs have almost no none-standard parts - and some have lots and lots.
I'd suggest you increase your sample size before quoting nonsense in the future :thumbsup:

There's no "apparently" here - some of us know exactly what we're talking about...

Nom;4416676

Erm, they don't :?DELL are as good as any other supplier - and much … Erm, they don't :?DELL are as good as any other supplier - and much better than some !Nope - they were pretty much the same standard that they are today. Well built machines, with the odd none-standard part. Sometimes a pain to repair, but excellent parts availability make it only a financial pain.I have no idea what DELLs you maintain, but some DELLs use a whole host of random none-standard parts !For example, the crazy 6" monitor cables as included with the Optiplex 755s to connect a standard pair of DVI/VGA displays to the none-standard video port on the half-height video card...Slinkeydonkey is quite right.Not quite true - your DELL Product Key will work just fine, as long as you couple it with a Windows XP Pro OEM disc. You will have to telephone the activation hotline to activate the install - but there's no begging required, you simply enter a string of numbers into your handset, and receive a return string from the Human or Robotic operator. You also need to specify your Computer is a DELL, if the Human operator asks.Cases, case fans, processor coolers, motherboards, power supplies, display cables, the list goes on. Some DELLs have almost no none-standard parts - and some have lots and lots.I'd suggest you increase your sample size before quoting nonsense in the future :thumbsup:There's no "apparently" here - some of us know exactly what we're talking about...



Too right its amazing people try to defend there ignorance although im about 99% sure you cant use the Dell Serial key that easily I have tired just that using an OEM CD with the Dell serial key and it didn't work im not a MS MCSE but im sure the serial key will only work with the manufacturers CD ill try it again tonight as i have an old Dell PC but i agree 100% with the rest you have said im sure someone here can confirm the issue to do with the dell serial key but im my experience it is not easy to reuse the serial codes.

nihcaj;4415835

Is that what you tell the punters so they think they are getting value … Is that what you tell the punters so they think they are getting value for money?Nice! ;-)I have two Dells in front of me, an Inspiron 530 and a Vostro 410 both Quad core, less than a year old... they are completely standard gear... other than the stickers and labels! Come across plenty of others too... next door, friends, my family even!Inside: Foxconn motherboard (bit cheap, I wouldn't rush to buy Foxconn if I was building it I suppose), Hitachi HD, I put half of the RAM in myself, that was Micron from Crucial, it came with Samsung memory, It has a Liteon Power supply which is nice and quiet and shoves a surprising amount of power out :-) One has integrated graphics, the other has a PCI-E ATI card in it, the sort of thing available anywhere for under 35 quid.About the only thing I couldn't get anywhere else is the BIOS and DVD Drive firmware, but even those can be replaced by gear manufactured by other makers! A new motherboard or Drive doesn't HAVE to be Dell to make the rest of the bits work! The holes in the box are the same as any others! I put a Seagate SATA HD in one just last week, fits like a dream, didn't even have to undo any screws other than the two to take off the side panel!What's all this non-standard stuff Dell are supposed to be using then?I have built dozens of PCs in the past, it's not rocket science, especially with standard gear available anywhere! It's never been easier, just they buy more, and can put them together cheaper than I can buy the bits!Dells apparently used to be full of kit manufactured for them, I never bought them then, as I was too busy building machines for me and everyone I knew, it was SO much cheaper that way then - but I suppose one of the reasons they are so cheap now, it's all the same stuff everyone else uses! I wouldn't have bought one back then, but as they make them cheaper than I can, then now I probably wouldn't buy one anywhere else!



Your utter ignorance is shocking some of us fix Dell computers everyday but as they say ignorance is bliss so that would explain it.

slinkydonkey;4417270

Your utter ignorance is shocking some of us fix Dell computers everyday … Your utter ignorance is shocking some of us fix Dell computers everyday but as they say ignorance is bliss so that would explain it.


I suppose by "some of us" you will be including that well known occupant of my IGNORE list....."Nom?" I can't begin to explain how thrilled I am at one or two of these people following me around thread to thread, watching every word that I post, so that they can try and trip me up on something I might say - it is truly flattering. I don't see a WORD of what they post, but it's still very flattering to know that what I say is so important to them nonetheless! :-D

Your post was a bit funny, coming from someone who doesn't even know how Microsoft's OEM Volume product licensing works! That's been around a while too, but is pretty much central around using Vista! If you deal with so many new Dells, I am very puzzled why you would not know something so elementary as this! It must be interesting trying to Activate something that is already activated! Like I say, the only thing I can't buy out there is the motherboard BIOS and the DVD drive firmware! I didn't say that you can't easily GET that BIOS information though, so why would I be worried about putting a non-Dell version of an otherwise bog-standard Foxconn motherboard in?

Yeah, obviously you get to fix a lot of Dells, it's just that they must be a lot of OLD ones. Like the old dross in this Thread!

Dells (and a fair number of other brands) ARE reliable now, so that's probably why you haven't needed to open one of the current models up, otherwise you would have noticed what's inside!
I am not going to be fixing mine up either, just yet, as that's what I paid Dell for, while it's under their warranty, but when its older, everything is as interchangeable as anything else you could buy out there, I wouldn't have bought one otherwise.

Even had the case off recent Inspirons and Vostro desktops? What's so "special" in there? Don't bother answering, you didn't answer a similar question in the last post either. This one is a purely rhetorical question, & you can have it on me for free!

Calling someone ignorant is a common method of countering an argument on this site, specifics are always a bit in short supply in these situations. The next step is usually to continue repeating the comment, and continue on not replying to specifics, and so on. It gets very boring, but repetition doesn't make something any more true or untrue.

Ah well, I shouldn't complain - after all, you won't be making money from the likes of me, or the clue-ey people on this site. My maiden Aunt can stick a new HD or a graphics card in a current Dell consumer machine with a blindfold on without so much as a special tool being needed, or need so much as a glance on a Dell web site for those terribly elusive drivers! It's not going to be the same with most punters, though - they won't have so much as seen inside the cardboard box they came in! They'll still have to get "the experts" in, no doubt accompanied by clouds of solder fumes to make it look like it is more than just sticking an odd component in so your "nice little earner" is still safe!

I think I have pretty much exhausted everything there is to say on this, seeing you don't answer the points anyway, and it is dangerously bordering on off-topic too, so I presume your next post to me would be something along the lines of "Your ignorance is even more shocking" Fine, so I said it to save you the effort, and people can get on with discussing these old PCs (there was only 4 in the first place!)

This site has been pretty light on decent deals recently, in fact since the onset of the "credit crunch;" but I am sure there are still definitely better things to be talking about than how monumentally ignorant I am.
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