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Dell Inspiron 14 5490 Laptop, Intel i7 Processor, 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 14" Full HD, Silver £699.95 @ John Lewis & Partners
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Dell Inspiron 14 5490 Laptop, Intel i7 Processor, 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 14" Full HD, Silver £699.95 @ John Lewis & Partners

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Posted 22nd Nov 2019

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It’s a so so deal

10th gen comet lake (not ice lake) with an MX230 (barely useful) dedicated gpu.

It’s not an IPS panel from what I can see.

Only 8gb ram. And it’s not a premium dell thin and light.

Also 5 hours battery is quite poor.

I would give it a miss, there’s plenty better out there.

Edit; I wonder if JL has mis labelled sone of the parts. Even the whiskey lake version of this the 5480 had MX250 and IPS.
Edited by: "gowf" 23rd Nov 2019
gowf23/11/2019 00:02

It’s a so so deal10th gen comet lake (not ice lake) with an MX230 (barely u …It’s a so so deal10th gen comet lake (not ice lake) with an MX230 (barely useful) dedicated gpu. It’s not an IPS panel from what I can see. Only 8gb ram. And it’s not a premium dell thin and light. Also 5 hours battery is quite poor.I would give it a miss, there’s plenty better out there.Edit; I wonder if JL has mis labelled sone of the parts. Even the whiskey lake version of this the 5480 had MX250 and IPS.


Both the core clock speeds as well as the turbo speeds of Comet Lake are generally higher than Ice Lake's

Plenty better. Advise on i7 models ?
Edited by: "azz_diesel" 23rd Nov 2019
azz_diesel23/11/2019 06:28

Both the core clock speeds as well as the turbo speeds of Comet Lake are …Both the core clock speeds as well as the turbo speeds of Comet Lake are generally higher than Ice Lake'sPlenty better. Advise on i7 models ?


All depends on what you’re after.

I5 and i7 in terms of u processors are not far apart in the performance. Both are 4/8 one just has a higher clock. And most inte chips laptops can’t boost to max clock for long without throttling.

But if the i7 badge is critical to you then consider the recent ASUS VivoBook


hotukdeals.com/dea…308

Much cheaper

Currys are selling the hp pavilion 14 with i7, mx250 for 650

If it’s a thin and light the s730 is going for just above 700 at Lenovo with code, or 630 for the i5.

If you take the i5 badge then there’s even better deals out there. And really very little difference in performance.

Plenty of other great deals. That’s why I would say give this one a miss.
gowf23/11/2019 07:15

All depends on what you’re after.I5 and i7 in terms of u processors are n …All depends on what you’re after.I5 and i7 in terms of u processors are not far apart in the performance. Both are 4/8 one just has a higher clock. And most inte chips laptops can’t boost to max clock for long without throttling.But if the i7 badge is critical to you then consider the recent ASUS VivoBook https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/asus-vivobook-14-x409fa-ek149t-14-full-hd-nanoedge-display-laptop-i7-8565u-8gb-256gb-ssd-3337308Much cheaperCurrys are selling the hp pavilion 14 with i7, mx250 for 650If it’s a thin and light the s730 is going for just above 700 at Lenovo with code, or 630 for the i5. If you take the i5 badge then there’s even better deals out there. And really very little difference in performance.Plenty of other great deals. That’s why I would say give this one a miss.



I'm clueless about processors. If we put the price difference aside, which one is better? This Dell or Currys HP deal in terms of the specs?
And what about reliability? I read somewhere here that HP has reliability issues.
Thanks in advance
Dell is a name that usually speaks higher class. The dell site has many laptop deals i5 in good price brackets. Also they have codes to reduce further.
Don’t get me wrong I don’t have anything against dell. The xps range is some of the finest laptops on the market, but you can’t judge an entire company by generalization. HP are probably the biggest or second laptop makers in the world, they can’t achieve that by making duds. Most office laptops in the Nhs where I work are Hp. My IT dept here feel they are solid and reliable but not very sexy. So go figure

I would have a look at this video regarding i5/i7



If based purely on merits of specs the HP trounces this one.

However laptops are not about pure specs. Style, weight and portability, keyboard and trackpad quality, battery, cooling ability, and so on are important too. If also depends if you want something for meetings, gaming, at home etc. I’ve made bad purchases in the past based on HUKD hotness rather than these other important attributes.

If you are price conscious then you should also consider some of the AMD laptops, excellent quality and much cheaper. The acer swift and so on are often on discount.
The Dell has a 3 cell 51Whr battery, aluminium case and backlit keyboard too. A few comments saying battery gives around 8h of general use. (2 year warrantee at JL too).
Edited by: "sjw" 23rd Nov 2019
I work IT as a consultant for the government and most standard issue now are Lenovo. X Carbons for the more seniors people I think Lenovo making big moves.

Can't say anything against HP. but DELL usually is always expensive hence why work Places won't invest.
Edited by: "azz_diesel" 23rd Nov 2019
gowf23/11/2019 10:01

Don’t get me wrong I don’t have anything against dell. The xps range is som …Don’t get me wrong I don’t have anything against dell. The xps range is some of the finest laptops on the market, but you can’t judge an entire company by generalization. HP are probably the biggest or second laptop makers in the world, they can’t achieve that by making duds. Most office laptops in the Nhs where I work are Hp. My IT dept here feel they are solid and reliable but not very sexy. So go figure I would have a look at this video regarding i5/i7[Video] If based purely on merits of specs the HP trounces this one. However laptops are not about pure specs. Style, weight and portability, keyboard and trackpad quality, battery, cooling ability, and so on are important too. If also depends if you want something for meetings, gaming, at home etc. I’ve made bad purchases in the past based on HUKD hotness rather than these other important attributes. If you are price conscious then you should also consider some of the AMD laptops, excellent quality and much cheaper. The acer swift and so on are often on discount.



Thanks. Could you please explain how the HP is better than this deal? spec wise?
currys.co.uk/gbu…tml


I compared the two processors on Intel's website and it looks to me (as a non expert) that Dell's processors is better
ark.intel.com/con…597

This is because Dell's base and max frequecy are better. Everything else is almost identical.
Edited by: "ineedtv" 24th Nov 2019
ineedtv24/11/2019 18:04

Thanks. Could you please explain how the HP is better than this deal? spec …Thanks. Could you please explain how the HP is better than this deal? spec wise?https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-14-ce3520sa-14-laptop-intel-core-i7-512-gb-ssd-silver-10198863-pdt.htmlI compared the two processors on Intel's website and it looks to me (as a non expert) that Dell's processors is betterhttps://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?productIds=196449,196597This is because Dell's base and max frequecy are better. Everything else is almost identical.


The dell is £50 more expensive. Currys has an additional cash back of £30 at moment

The dell has mx230 whereas the hp has a MX250, approx 25-40% faster iirc

The dells i7 is a comet lake “10th gen” which in reality is a 9th gen 14nm intel processor. Yes in benchmarks it is marginally faster compared to the icelake one, but the latter has significant power advantages as a 10nm node size and is more efficient. This is why the same 10nm chip is clocked at lower ghz and yet can match the comet lake on most tasks. This also has an effect on battery life. The ice lake cpu also has a fantastic integrated GPU, well over double the power of the comet lake one and actually on par with an mx230, which means it can turn off the dedicated graphics unit to conserve power and function quite well.

Finally the battery life of 5hours on the dell is very poor. But I wonder if that is based on theoretical or real life use.

Given the above I can’t see any reason to take the dell, but as I stated above, there are many other considerations including style, the John Lewis warranty, brand loyalty and perception etc.
Voting cold, nothing more annoying then short battery life
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