Dell Inspiron 3650 Desktop (Intel Core i5-6400 2.7 GHz, 8 GB RAM, 1 TB HDD, Windows 10, Dedicated Graphics)  £399.99 @ Amazon
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Dell Inspiron 3650 Desktop (Intel Core i5-6400 2.7 GHz, 8 GB RAM, 1 TB HDD, Windows 10, Dedicated Graphics) £399.99 @ Amazon

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Found 26th Jan 2016
After a bit of research, I bought this desktop from Amazon last week.

It comes with dedicated graphics (NVIDIA GeForce 730 2GB). The Amazon listing seems to neglect the fact it comes with dedicated graphics although it is mentioned in the Dell description here (http://www.dell.com/uk/p/inspiron-3650-desktop/pd) and I can now verify this first hand.

The computer is very speedy and quiet too. The computer also comes with the latest Intel i5 processor.

Please note the Dedicated GPU in this system is a gimmick. It is actually slower than the Intel HD 530 that is built into the CPU.

Please see here both are compared: youtube.com/wat…DCE
- ollie87

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would you get this or something else providing you've got PSU,ssd. basically can you get anything equal or better for 400.CPU,motherboard,graphic card?

i had one of these, fine for business/office use but dont even attempt to run any games on it.

Original Poster

Processor: £153
Graphics: £52
Hard Drive: £35
RAM: £29
Motherboard: ~ £50
Wi-Fi / Bluetooth Card: £25
Case: £40
DVDRW: £15
Keyboard & Mouse: £20.

Currently at £419 and that is without the Windows 10 license and the PSU and anything else I've forgotten.

Original Poster

riccom

i had one of these, fine for business/office use but dont even attempt to … i had one of these, fine for business/office use but dont even attempt to run any games on it.



I've ran some games on it and it's been fine. For older games or games a little bit old it seems to run fine or lower settings. The dedicated graphics card isn't fantastic here, but it is still an upgrade over the integrated graphics you usually get at this price.

£449 on Dell website.

shaunp

Processor: £153Graphics: £52Hard Drive: £35RAM: £29Motherboard: ~ £50 … Processor: £153Graphics: £52Hard Drive: £35RAM: £29Motherboard: ~ £50Wi-Fi / Bluetooth Card: £25Case: £40DVDRW: £15Keyboard & Mouse: £20.Currently at £419 and that is without the Windows 10 license and the PSU and anything else I've forgotten.



Yeah but someone will still no doubt say they can build it for under £200 with an i7 and 1TB ssd drive.... there's always one

Looks like a small PSU and reading a review suggests it won't be usable for bigger graphics cards, maybe replaceable with a standard ATX PSU.

riccom

i had one of these, fine for business/office use but dont even attempt to … i had one of these, fine for business/office use but dont even attempt to run any games on it.



The CPU is massively underused for office/business program usage. If you buy this for that reason, what a waste. You'd want to run mathematical modelling and some rendering stuff on it and other professional tasks and it would cope, not as well as a Xeon but that's far more in line with what the CPU can do. I would say Photoshop but realistically it needs more RAM than CPU power.

Anyway sell the existing GPU and PSU for £40 or so and then use that to get a decent 700W PSU and a GTX 970 and you're good to go. Would I really do that? No of course not because I'd need to check the motherboard had all the modern I/O I wanted such as M.2 Gen 3 for example. I'm just saying you could do that if you bought this, but I wouldn't myself

fishmaster

The CPU is massively underused for office/business program usage. If you … The CPU is massively underused for office/business program usage. If you buy this for that reason, what a waste.

An alternative view is that you buy the best CPU your budget can handle and then a. you don't have to make a cup of tea while it starts up b. web pages and email are responsive c. word, excel etc are responsive and d. you won't need to upgrade in 2 years time.

fishmaster

The CPU is massively underused for office/business program usage. If you … The CPU is massively underused for office/business program usage. If you buy this for that reason, what a waste. You'd want to run mathematical modelling and some rendering stuff on it and other professional tasks and it would cope, not as well as a Xeon but that's far more in line with what the CPU can do. I would say Photoshop but realistically it needs more RAM than CPU power.Anyway sell the existing GPU and PSU for £40 or so and then use that to get a decent 700W PSU and a GTX 970 and you're good to go. Would I really do that? No of course not because I'd need to check the motherboard had all the modern I/O I wanted such as M.2 Gen 3 for example. I'm just saying you could do that if you bought this, but I wouldn't myself



Eh? The deal is for the pc in its factory spec, it will not run games (as many users would like it to) so that leaves either business/media apps or home use minus gaming. I made no comment on upgrading psu/gpu as that then adds up to £300-400 and would likely be met with hardware compatibility issues so might as well just spec a gaming pc for that price.


riccom

Eh? The deal is for the pc in its factory spec, it will not run games (as … Eh? The deal is for the pc in its factory spec, it will not run games (as many users would like it to) so that leaves either business/media apps or home use minus gaming. I made no comment on upgrading psu/gpu as that then adds up to £300-400 and would likely be met with hardware compatibility issues so might as well just spec a gaming pc for that price.



I'm not attacking your post so don't worry about it, I also know that you weren't suggesting upgrading the PSU/GPU for gaming. All I'm saying is the CPU is too powerful just to use for general office business tasks, you should be looking for a much cheaper unit for doing those tasks.

Musicrab

An alternative view is that you buy the best CPU your budget can handle … An alternative view is that you buy the best CPU your budget can handle and then a. you don't have to make a cup of tea while it starts up b. web pages and email are responsive c. word, excel etc are responsive and d. you won't need to upgrade in 2 years time.



That won't be the fault of the CPU, just about any modern CPU is capable of office/business tasks. I'd look for a system with an SSD and take a hit on the CPU instead as it's just not ever going to be taxed by general office/business usage and Windows 10 lifespan will outlive the tower anyway as end of support is 2025. If you know you can utilise the power of the CPU then buy the tower if you can't then don't, it's simple. I see it all the time in offices, people with 2nd, 3rd gen i5's they paid a lot for a few years ago and they're running Illustrator and Photoshop or Office 2013 for example and the CPU usage is nowhere near capacity.
Edited by: "fishmaster" 27th Jan 2016

Narkodrom

basically can you get anything equal or better for … basically can you get anything equal or better for 400.CPU,motherboard,graphic card?



You'd lose a little CPU power but make up for it by not having a garbage graphics card:

http://i.imgur.com/3HDAe9W.png

http://i.imgur.com/LgAnsAe.png

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/CXdmYJ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/CXdmYJ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-4170 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor (£85.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-S2H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£39.88 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£27.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Toshiba Product Series:DT01ACA 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.50 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 4GB Video Card (£161.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Rosewill SRM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£23.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£37.31 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £414.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-27 09:10 GMT+0000

Obviously doesn't include a Windows License but you can get one for about £20 off of Reddit.

Edited by: "ollie87" 27th Jan 2016

ollie87

Obviously doesn't include a Windows License but you can get one for about … Obviously doesn't include a Windows License but you can get one for about £20 off of Reddit.

Obviously - because you forgot it. Lol.

Musicrab

Obviously - because you forgot it. Lol.



Did I?
Edited by: "ollie87" 27th Jan 2016

You absolutely can run games on this! Granted, it might not run all the newest games at 1080p with all the graphics set to max, but for most people this is a perfectly good gaming rig. Even without the dedicated graphics, this would handle most of the games that come in the Humble Bundles, which, it's safe to assume, make up most of the games in the typical HUKDer's library. Not everyone here is a bleeding-edge top gamer!

Plus, y'know, you could always upgrade the graphics later...

Edited by: "HereKittyKitty" 27th Jan 2016

Also worth noting that the 'Dedicated GPU' in this system is the 128-bit GDDR3 version as noted on the Dell spec-sheet: http://www.dell.com/uk/p/inspiron-3650-desktop/pd

Which is actually slower than the iGPU on the i5 CPU: tomshardware.co.uk/gpu…tml

http://i.imgur.com/ml8gW3W.png

The dedicated GPU in this system is nothing more than a marketing gimmick to suck people in.
Edited by: "ollie87" 27th Jan 2016

HereKittyKitty

Plus, y'know, you could always upgrade the graphics later...



In which case it would be cheaper to build your own system without the GPU - and if you choose the same CPU the integrated graphics will be faster any way.
Edited by: "ollie87" 27th Jan 2016

Not bad Dell quality
The PSU - looks like small mini PSU maybe 220 W or similar
Anyway for 1080p gaming need settings adjustment to medium / low but it is possible to play

Will i buy this PC for gaming NO
Will i buy this PC for office works yes
Will I buy this PC for home user Yes / No For basic gaming and home works , but I prefer laptops or mac mini

Why mac mini ? it is small compact mac OS for basic home office works it is better But NOT for gaming forgot gamin on mac mini it is not design for this + Integrated IRIS graphic not low as well Intel making GPU faster and faster

Can we Improve PC for better gaming Yes :
1 option GTX 950 - 90W
2 option GTX 750 Ti GPU - 60W I will go with 750 Ti as power lower just in case dell PSU can hold maximum loads Price £100

But for £250 you can get PS4 for gaming

Incognitoso

But NOT for gaming forgot gamin on mac mini it is not design for this … But NOT for gaming forgot gamin on mac mini it is not design for this + Integrated IRIS graphic not low as well Intel making GPU faster and faster



To be fair Intel Iris Graphics are far more powerful that the GPU in this machine

IIRC dell rate their psu's differently. A 300w is equivalent to a 450w one that you buy seperately.

Incognitoso

But for £250 you can get PS4 for gaming



That's sort of what puzzles me? Why bother with a gaming PC when consoles do it so well and have a far longer shelf life for a lower cost than a gaming PC?

My Dell Inspiron is old now (hotukdeals.com/dea…986) but having stuck a couple of SSDs in it (and a USB 3.0 card), it's absolutely perfect and near silent for non gaming use. Win 10, Office 2016 and Photoshop CC all work perfectly.

This is what Im teaching people PC is for work and gaming PS4 / xbox is for games
Now as I think 90 % home user using PC for office + Facebook photos upload or YouTube + read web
Intel in the last year made not bad Integrated GPU they not same as GTX 980 but for basic games it is ok
It was long time ago - when desktop PC was big cases big everything and they was for office works
Now a basic mini PC for £100 can do all this office works "NOT GAMING" Not video editing

Everything become smaller and modern in PC world Why me want to buy a big case PC when I can have nice design PC like mac mini and for office works it is more what I need

for me PS4 with maybe 30-60 fps is more that I need New game comes out bought put in and play
I do not spend time looking for best graphic drivers patches etc I just spend time to play as time is limited when become older

I do not advertising macs - but I can not see alternatives
Windows 10 PC only when you working with software where not available with mac

shaunp

Processor: £153Graphics: £52Hard Drive: £35RAM: £29Motherboard: ~ £50 … Processor: £153Graphics: £52Hard Drive: £35RAM: £29Motherboard: ~ £50Wi-Fi / Bluetooth Card: £25Case: £40DVDRW: £15Keyboard & Mouse: £20.Currently at £419 and that is without the Windows 10 license and the PSU and anything else I've forgotten.



power Cables and Manuel

I've been thinking about buying this PC or ACER Aspire XC-705 Desktop PC from Curry.

Does anybody know if there is room in the Dell from an extra Hard-drive ?

Scorpion

That's sort of what puzzles me? Why bother with a gaming PC when consoles … That's sort of what puzzles me? Why bother with a gaming PC when consoles do it so well and have a far longer shelf life for a lower cost than a gaming PC?My Dell Inspiron is old now (http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/dell-inspiron-546-base-phenom-x4-9750-416986) but having stuck a couple of SSDs in it (and a USB 3.0 card), it's absolutely perfect and near silent for non gaming use. Win 10, Office 2016 and Photoshop CC all work perfectly.



Not sure if this is a troll post or not? Buying a console might be cheaper upfront but the games are still a lot more expensive, there isn't the range of games, they don't necessarily last that long (I am on my second 360) and it is quite likely you will still buy a laptop or desktop every so often (as you have indicated). Personally I have both (A Core2Quad desktop from 2008, 8Gb ram, AMD 7950) and a 360 and if I was to ditch one I'd ditch the 360 (even if it was a PS4 or Xbox One).

Scorpion

Why bother with a gaming PC when consoles do it so well and have a far … Why bother with a gaming PC when consoles do it so well and have a far longer shelf life for a lower cost than a gaming PC?



See here why PC gaming is far better: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/wiki/guide

PC gaming as a whole is much cheaper than console gaming. Especially in the long run, it can be less than half of what a console will cost you. Hidden fees, price hikes, and royalties are abundant for gamers AND developers in the console industry. [1][2]

PC hardware offers better bang-for-buck & value than console hardware (same performance for less money, more performance for the same money, or much more performance for a bit more money). [1]

PCs have the freedom to upgrade whenever YOU decide to, not when Sony or Microsoft decide to. If you just got a big bonus at work and wanted to sell your R7 260 to a friend for £50 and buy an R9 380 for £150 tomorrow, you could do it.

PCs give you full internal and external control over the graphical fidelity triangle. Consoles can control neither.

PCs easily work with TVs and monitors, and even multiple of each.

PCs can play nearly every old PC and console game ever made, thanks to its tremendous legacy support, emulator availability, and GOG.

PCs can use nearly every console controller ever made, modern ones (PS3/PS4/X360/XO) work without even needing a USB adapter. [1]

PC games offer a clearer image thanks to native resolution and its ability to adjust to any display its plugged into. Console games don't allow resolution adjustments, and will lock to whatever the developer arbitrarily chose. This means that lower resolution displays offer no performance benefit like they do on PCs, because the resolution is never lowered to spare some workload on the GPU (which, on a PC, would mean it could render frames faster). [1]

Gaming services and "social services" on the PC are completely free, even with online play (Steam, Galaxy, Desura, Mumble, etc)

Gaming services on the PC offer more functionality than what you pay for on a console

PCs have better better multiplayer support (LAN, 16x local multiplayer on the same machine with softXpand)

Using a modern budget GPU yields around 60 frames per second during gameplay with recent game releases. Consoles can barely reach 30FPS most of the time.

Not only can PC's be used for education, entertainment, gaming, and content creation... they're the best at all of these things.

PCs are much more powerful than the PS4 or XBox One at the same (traditionally believe to be affordable!) price point

More exclusives than all the current-gen consoles combined

More highly-rated exclusives

PC games have free modifications and enhancements available. Old games and new games alike have player-made content, graphical enhancements, and additions available for free. Even Minecraft. [1]

More games, much larger library

More exclusive games

Healthy independent developer scene

Lots of free games

Free abandonware titles

PCs can emulate almost any handheld and stationary console games using freely available emulators. Sometimes even at higher framerates, detail levels, and with better input than the original console permitted! [1][2][3]

Increasingly cheaper hardware for the price as new GPUs are released

Big Picture mode for couch gaming

Easier to repair and highly modular

Backward and forward hardware compatibility of more than 2 years

No punishments for repairing

Can be upgraded if desired

Easier to upgrade

Better price-performance than consoles

Higher framerates (smoother)

Higher resolutions than consoles (such as 1080p, 1440p, 1600p, 4k, and 8k!) if your display supports it and you have GPU power you're willing to spare. Consoles struggle, even at 720-900p!

Higher graphical details (lighting, textures, foliage, particles, shading, weather)

You're probably going to own some sort of PC anyways, why not pay a bit more on top to make it a gaming machine? That alone makes it cheaper than a console.
Edited by: "ollie87" 27th Jan 2016

Scorpion

That's sort of what puzzles me? Why bother with a gaming PC when consoles … That's sort of what puzzles me? Why bother with a gaming PC when consoles do it so well and have a far longer shelf life for a lower cost than a gaming PC?My Dell Inspiron is old now (http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/dell-inspiron-546-base-phenom-x4-9750-416986) but having stuck a couple of SSDs in it (and a USB 3.0 card), it's absolutely perfect and near silent for non gaming use. Win 10, Office 2016 and Photoshop CC all work perfectly.



Horses for courses, I'd personally agree as otherwise you're constantly having to chase the hardware upgrades. BUT I can also see the benefits if you're graphics obsessed as many PC gamers are. The PS4 and One have to offer the same experience to the lowest common denominator as such will always be "standard". PC's can be customised so if you're desperate to see every pore on Trevors face in GTAV PC is the only way to go

Incognitoso

Why me want to buy a big case PC



I'm a Mac user (MacBook Air) but I also have a mITX gaming machine. Gaming PCs aren't huge boxes any more - this isn't 1998.

frakison

Horses for courses, I'd personally agree as otherwise you're constantly … Horses for courses, I'd personally agree as otherwise you're constantly having to chase the hardware upgrades.



Calling you out on that one.

"Some people claim that consoles get better over time due to "optimization" and that PCs (on the opposite end) get slower and need to be upgraded to keep up with these "optimizations". This is a lie. Some say it intentionally, and some repeat it because they simply don't know any better. Yes, there is a gradual increase in developer hardware and SDK familiarity after new consoles (or hardware in general) launches. Especially with the XBox 360 and PS3, due to their hardware being exotic and hard to master. These "optimizations" are not exclusive to the consoles, either!

The same optimizations are also taken advantage of on the PC when they receive large hardware revisions as well - just take a look at what DirectX 12 and Vulkan are doing for PC gamers! The leading cause of this "console optimization" misconception is likely due to the state of hardware during the launch of the XBox 360 and PS3. When the XBox 360 and PS3 launched, they had entirely new types and mixtures of hardware that the industry was very unfamiliar with. The XBox One and PS4 simply will not have a similar developer learning curve that the 360 and PS3 had because both new consoles use x86-based processors (which is also used by PCs!).

As for the second part of the argument, loss of value with PC hardware (in comparison to console hardware) doesn't happen at a faster rate. Let's break this down: First off, the 360 and PS3 were sold at a loss when they launched. Times have changed! The Xbox One and PS4 are both being sold at a profit after their first game/online purchases (even at $400/$500). Secondly, the performance-per-dollar of desktop GPUs now is noticeably better than it was at the time. Even while taking this into account, a GPU in 2006 (during the 360 and PS3 launch) priced similar to the build price of those consoles is still very much usable today.

The best GPU for this demonstration is NVidia's 8800 series. Not only are they still getting driver updates today, but they're also getting support from game developers. Here's an example of a modern PC game being played on a high-end desktop PC graphics card from 2006. If you look close, you'll notice it looks and runs exactly like the PS3 and Xbox 360."
Edited by: "ollie87" 27th Jan 2016

Overall I think this is an excellent deal, the bottom line here is that the components and OS are more expensive to buy separately. Another thing to remember is you are buying a branded PC as opposed to building one yourself so irrespective of what type of warranty you get you don't need to fix it yourself.

Although I agree with the fact that the graphics card may not be as good as the new iGPU's the main factor for this deal is price. You could even test the iGPU against the Geforce 730 and if it does perform worse you can make it an even better deal by selling the Graphics Card.

Well done OP great post!

t4h1rkh4n

you can make it an even better deal by selling the Graphics Card.



Who would buy it? It's a truly awful card. It's worth about £20.

Edited by: "ollie87" 27th Jan 2016

ollie87

Who would buy it? It's a truly awful card.



People are buying them on ebay, I'm just saying that it's better to sell if for whatever money if you have no real use for it. Just an idea.

t4h1rkh4n

People are buying them on ebay, I'm just saying that it's better to sell … People are buying them on ebay, I'm just saying that it's better to sell if for whatever money if you have no real use for it. Just an idea.



Okay then, since this is a prebuilt PC if you need to send it back for repair what happens when they say "where's the graphics card?"

Because you'll need to if it fails - send the whole thing back.

ollie87

Okay then, since this is a prebuilt PC if you need to send it back for … Okay then, since this is a prebuilt PC if you need to send it back for repair what happens when they say "where's the graphics card?"Because you'll need to if it fails - send the whole thing back.



Honestly, I thought that would be the first thing people would have pointed out about selling the graphics card, am I forcing anyone to sell it? anyway, it's just an idea

t4h1rkh4n

Honestly, I thought that would be the first thing people would have … Honestly, I thought that would be the first thing people would have pointed out about selling the graphics card, am I forcing anyone to sell it? anyway, it's just an idea



In which case, build it yourself and emit the GPU.

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/RZ7T8d
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/RZ7T8d/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor (£149.99 @ Novatech)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£49.99 @ Novatech)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£29.99 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£34.98 @ Aria PC)
Case: Rosewill SRM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£23.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£29.99 @ Aria PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £383.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-27 14:01 GMT+0000

You could save more by buying a Windows license for £20 from Reddit - although some members moan about that so I've included a full retail key in this case.

Then you can add a proper GPU down the line for £100-150, it also leaves room for another 8GB stick too for dual channel, not that any gaming rig needs more than 8GB right now.

Then if one part fails you can send that back and not the whole PC.

ollie87

In which case, build it yourself and emit the GPU.PCPartPicker part list: … In which case, build it yourself and emit the GPU.PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/RZ7T8dPrice breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/RZ7T8d/by_merchant/CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor (£149.99 @ Novatech) Motherboard: Asus H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£49.99 @ Novatech) Memory: Kingston 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£29.99 @ Ebuyer) Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£34.98 @ Aria PC) Case: Rosewill SRM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£23.99 @ Amazon UK) Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£29.99 @ Aria PC) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) (£64.99 @ Amazon UK) Total: £383.92Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-27 14:01 GMT+0000You could save more by buying a Windows license for £20 from Reddit - although some members moan about that so I've included a full retail key in this case.Then you can add a proper GPU down the line for £100-150, it also leaves room for another 8GB stick too for dual channel, not that any gaming rig needs more than 8GB right now.Then if one part fails you can send that back and not the whole PC.



Don't get me wrong I agree with the 'build it yourself', but lets not forget for those that don't know how is it really worth the hassle for £16 quid, using 4 different retailers? I always build my own PC but I also understand that for those who just need a PC to arrive pre built with SOME sort of end user support this is still a good deal.

You can't please everyone here and if we start discussing the list, I would recommend to buy a motherboard with USB-C and USB 3.1 (even if we don't really need it!) for example I recently built a budget system for a friend with a Gigabyte H110M-S2HP. Then there will be those who will say "where's M.2 support" and obviously in this budget there is no room for that.

Yes I understand all your points but I just think there is more than one way to assess a deal.

Fantastic deal

This is a good deal. I am not sure what the of master race Reddit want with this deal? I am hoping the above posts were done in jests but let's see.

MRP

This is a good deal.



It's not, you can build it cheaper yourself. Which also has the advantage of not having a silly proprietary PSU.

MRP

I am not sure what the of master race Reddit want with this deal?



Because someone asked if they could game on this machine.

MRP

I am hoping the above posts were done in jests but let's see.



None of my posts were in jest, someone said that PS4 offers a better gaming experience than a PC, which is doesn't.
Edited by: "ollie87" 27th Jan 2016

Original Poster

Didn't realise my thread was going to cause friction!

I just thought this was a great price considering the processor and it is a million times better than other brand new machines I've seen elsewhere.

If you get one, I hope you are as happy as I am.
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