DELL PowerEdge T20-9186 Tower Server £173.88 Delivered (£115.88 after Dell bank transfer cashback), Intel Pentium G3220 Dual Core 3.0GHZ (Haswell) 54W, 4GB ram, 500GB 7200rpm HDD @ Serversplus
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DELL PowerEdge T20-9186 Tower Server £173.88 Delivered (£115.88 after Dell bank transfer cashback), Intel Pentium G3220 Dual Core 3.0GHZ (Haswell) 54W, 4GB ram, 500GB 7200rpm HDD @ Serversplus

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Found 27th Nov 2015
It is £115.88 after £70 cashback which is wired into your bank account. You need to apply for cashback between 30-60 days after ordering, not before and not after, so put a calendar alert on your phone and on a physical calendar if you have one.

A full modern complete desktop tower (except an Operating System and DVD-RW) for just £115.88 is a bargain. Mine arrived today, i put windows 10 x64 on it and it works perfectly.

Here is the software updates download page for server: dell.com/sup…s=y

The idle power consumption of this computer running windows 10 x64 with latest drivers from intel site and a 60GB ssd added is: 31-33W, i measured this using a power meter plug adapter. The SSD adds 1.5w idle power consumption.

Dell cashback qualifying products page: plus.delltradetosave.com/gb/…ing
Dell cashback terms and conditions: plus.delltradetosave.com/gb/…rms
Dell cashback claim form: plus.delltradetosave.com/gb/…iew

Specs:

NO Operating System, DVD-RW, keyboard, mouse or monitor.
CPU: Intel Pentium G3220 Dual Core, 3MB Cache, 3.00 GHz (Haswell) 54W, socket LGA 1150
GPU: Integrated Intel HD Graphics 4600 (DirectX 12(software), DirectX 11.1 (hardware), OpenCL 1.2 and WDDM 1.3 compatible)
1x4GB DDR3 ECC 1600Mhz 1.35V ram, 4x UDIMM slots available, supports 32GB max of 1333/1600mhz ram (model: HMT451U7BFR8A-PB)
500GB Seagate ST500DM002-1BD14 7200rpm SATA HDD
VGA port
2x Displayport ports
4x USB3 ports (2 front and 2 back)
6x USB2 ports (2 front and 4 back)
2x sata3 ports and 2x sata2 ports
Audio: Realtek ALC3220
Network: Intel I217-LM Gigabit Ethernet (10/100/1000)
Chipset: Intel C226
Raid: Intel Rapid Storage Controller 12.0 (software RAID)
1 PCIe 3.0 X16
1 PCIe 2.0 x16 (x4 speed)
1 PCIe 2.0 x1
1 PCI slot
1x serial connector
1x mic and headphone/speakers connector on front
1x mic and headphone/speakers connector on rear
290W PSU + power cord
Weight: 8.49 kg
Dimensions: 36cm (H), 17.5cm (W), 43.6cm (D)
1yr warranty

You can add a slimline DVD-RW, you will need to remove the front face plate. There is no small power cable in the case for a slimline optical drive, there are spare sata data cables though, follow this guide to install it: youtube.com/wat…4HY You will need to use one of these adapters: ebay.co.uk/itm…269

You can install a 3rd party GPU that uses up to 75W but if you want a more powerful GPU then you will need to use sata to 6-pin power adapter(s), i don't know anything about this so you will need to research this to be sure that it will work.

You can get a displayport to hdmi cable for £4.19 delivered off amazon or £2.74 from ebay delivered from hong kong (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6FT-1-8M-Display-Port-DP-To-HDMI-Male-1-4V-HDTV-LCD-PC-1080P-Cable-Adaptor-Cord-/311341020862) which took 13 days for it to arrive for me. This server cannot output audio via the displayports, you will have to use the 3.5mm out jacks or install a soundcard or gpu with a hdmi out port.
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I need to catch a train. Don't buy them all everybody
can also buy for 149.99 with £70 cashback so ~80 + delivery without a hard drive.
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adamspencer95

can also buy for 149.99 with £70 cashback so ~80 + delivery without a … can also buy for 149.99 with £70 cashback so ~80 + delivery without a hard drive.


yep, this one works out about £17 more inc VAT than that one. Cheap for a 7200rpm 500gb.
Anyone know when the successor to this with the sky lake Xeons will be in stock anywhere?
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Edited by: "nirvanaman" 27th Nov 2015
Nice entry-level server.
Couldn't put this together from bits at anywhere near this price ...
is it using standard power supply? replaceable?
and memory ddr3?
amazing price and I look forward to the smart alecs that say they can build this for less

Edited by: "spannerzone" 27th Nov 2015
Hmm, could retire a microserver with this. Would need more internal bays though.
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tek-monkey

Hmm, could retire a microserver with this. Would need more internal bays … Hmm, could retire a microserver with this. Would need more internal bays though.


Up to six internal (cabled) hard drives in total:
Up to four 3.5" SATA hard drives, plus
Up to two 2.5" SATA hard drives
requires expansion PCI-E sata card for more than four sata devices.

vithya

is it using standard power supply? replaceable?and memory ddr3?


psu is replaceable, here is a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntxi_EyXbLI

Yes the memory is DDR3 ECC 1600mhz 1.35v, a single 4GB stick.
Edited by: "nirvanaman" 27th Nov 2015
Does anyone know if this would handle x6 hikvision 3mp cameras without the cpu maxin out.

Does not look like a standard power supply to me..

tek-monkey

Hmm, could retire a microserver with this. Would need more internal bays … Hmm, could retire a microserver with this. Would need more internal bays though.

vithya

is it using standard power supply? replaceable?and memory ddr3?



Edited by: "Karan4u" 27th Nov 2015
If you've measured, how many watts does it take in idle? Thanks
ciamcool

Does anyone know if this would handle x6 hikvision 3mp cameras without … Does anyone know if this would handle x6 hikvision 3mp cameras without the cpu maxin out.



​easy, xpenology & surveillance station.
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gnowak84

If you've measured, how many watts does it take in idle? Thanks



31-33w

vithya

Does not look like a standard power supply to me..


I shall measure the PSU dimensions for you tomorrow.

Edited by: "nirvanaman" 27th Nov 2015
How would this do with me slapping my GT240 in, and using as a day-to-day desktop (with OS) & DLNA/uPNP fileserver? FWIW - would be upgrading from a Q6600. Found this comparison: cpu.userbenchmark.com/Com…980 which suggests it'd be worth it IMHO.
Howdy fellow bargain hunters! Would this be ok as just a standard pc used for Internet browsing and stuff like that? My current PC is 6 years old with a pentium 4 2.9ghz and 1gb of ram, runs windows XP and takes about 5 mins too boot up?!
jamieisking

Howdy fellow bargain hunters! Would this be ok as just a standard pc used … Howdy fellow bargain hunters! Would this be ok as just a standard pc used for Internet browsing and stuff like that? My current PC is 6 years old with a pentium 4 2.9ghz and 1gb of ram, runs windows XP and takes about 5 mins too boot up?!



You would need to buy a Windows licence for it and install Windows on it but yes it would be fine.
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jamieisking

Howdy fellow bargain hunters! Would this be ok as just a standard pc used … Howdy fellow bargain hunters! Would this be ok as just a standard pc used for Internet browsing and stuff like that? My current PC is 6 years old with a pentium 4 2.9ghz and 1gb of ram, runs windows XP and takes about 5 mins too boot up?!


yes, that is precisely what i have done with this server, running windows 10 x64 on it and using a 60GB ssd for windows, office etc. Using the 500GB for music and photos storage.

nikolai

How would this do with me slapping my GT240 in, and using as a day-to-day … How would this do with me slapping my GT240 in, and using as a day-to-day desktop (with OS) & DLNA/uPNP fileserver? FWIW - would be upgrading from a Q6600. Found this comparison: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-G3220-vs-Intel-Core2-Quad-Q6600/1967vs1980 which suggests it'd be worth it IMHO.


Why would you want that low end nvidia gpu in it? The intel gpu inside might be faster, would use less power and less noise too.
Edited by: "nirvanaman" 28th Nov 2015
jamieisking

Howdy fellow bargain hunters! Would this be ok as just a standard pc … Howdy fellow bargain hunters! Would this be ok as just a standard pc used for Internet browsing and stuff like that? My current PC is 6 years old with a pentium 4 2.9ghz and 1gb of ram, runs windows XP and takes about 5 mins too boot up?!

nikolai

How would this do with me slapping my GT240 in, and using as a … How would this do with me slapping my GT240 in, and using as a day-to-day desktop (with OS) & DLNA/uPNP fileserver? FWIW - would be upgrading from a Q6600. Found this comparison: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-G3220-vs-Intel-Core2-Quad-Q6600/1967vs1980 which suggests it'd be worth it IMHO.


Maybe because the gt240 uses its own vram and will not use the system ram.

nikolai, use MSI Afterburner, nvidiaInspector and the like to create ultra low power profiles and you'll be okay. Do a bit of testing before though committing. I'm currently typing on, not literally, a GT650Ti down clocked to gpu@180MHz + mem@180MHz from a default of gpu@928Mhz and mem@2700Mhz on 50" screen with no problems what so ever.

I bought the E3-1225-v3 version but I'll have to wait till the end of the month before I can put in a claim for the cashback. The box is quietly crunching away at CEP2 workunits at my workplace.
Edited by: "Gatchaman" 28th Nov 2015
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vithya

Does not look like a standard power supply to me..



140mm x 150mm x 84mm, just measured it. This is a ATX/BTX sized psu. The cables are not standard, there is no 24pin cable, sata devices get power from the motherboard not the psu.


Edited by: "nirvanaman" 3rd Dec 2015
Gatchaman

Maybe because the gt240 uses its own vram and will not use the system … Maybe because the gt240 uses its own vram and will not use the system ram.nikolai, use MSI Afterburner, nvidiaInspector and the like to create ultra low power profiles and you'll be okay. Do a bit of testing before though committing. I'm currently typing on, not literally, a GT650Ti down clocked to gpu@180MHz + mem@180MHz from a default of gpu@928Mhz and mem@2700Mhz on 50" screen with no problems what so ever.I bought the E3-1225-v3 version but I'll have to wait till the end of the month before I can put in a claim for the cashback. The box is quietly crunching away at CEP2 workunits at my workplace.

That was the idea. I've always separated CPU and GPU in the past, but maybe my needs vs improving technology means I might not have to at some point. Thanks for the advice Gatchaman.
HP Microserver?
nirvanaman

yep, this one works out about £17 more inc VAT than that one. Cheap for a … yep, this one works out about £17 more inc VAT than that one. Cheap for a 7200rpm 500gb.


Yes, but who wants a 500gb drive nowadays, it's just a waste of a sata connection
Hot deal.

Definitely a non-ATX PSU though. Look at the power cables to the mobo. No 24-pin. And SATA power is taken from the mobo too by the looks of it.

Will make a fantastic home server though.
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jasee

who wants a 500gb drive nowadays, it's just a waste of a sata connection


A lot of people just use their computers for ms office and the internet browsing, unless you are downloading quite a lot of video or installing games then 500GB is sufficient for a huge portion of the public.

Edited by: "nirvanaman" 28th Nov 2015
shinds

HP Microserver?


Would also like to hear people's opinions for the Dell over the HP Microserver?
I'm currently running an N54L and was considering the Gen8 as an upgrade.
nirvanaman

A lot of people, just us their computers for office and the internet, … A lot of people, just us their computers for office and the internet, unless you are downloading quite a lot of video or installing games then 500GB is sufficient for a huge portion of the public.


But this is unlikely to appeal to them, as there is no operating system and it's rather big, though smaller than the Lenovo TS140. But as a media server or a NAS server, this is a no brainer!
illusionuk

Would also like to hear people's opinions for the Dell over the HP … Would also like to hear people's opinions for the Dell over the HP Microserver?I'm currently running an N54L and was considering the Gen8 as an upgrade.



I'm in exactly the same position. This has a better processor and more USB ports etc but is considerably bigger but requires significantly more power.

Mine will live in the loft so size doesn't matter, but the increased power does. The microserver is also very quiet, who knows about this.
Mada06

I'm in exactly the same position. This has a better processor and more … I'm in exactly the same position. This has a better processor and more USB ports etc but is considerably bigger but requires significantly more power.Mine will live in the loft so size doesn't matter, but the increased power does. The microserver is also very quiet, who knows about this.



Another person here with an N54L potentially looking to upgrade. Will this be any good for transcoding with Plex? My micro server is really struggling lately. Thanks
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Mada06

I'm in exactly the same position. This has a better processor and more … I'm in exactly the same position. This has a better processor and more USB ports etc but is considerably bigger but requires significantly more power.Mine will live in the loft so size doesn't matter, but the increased power does. The microserver is also very quiet, who knows about this.


This server is almost silent This uses 29.5w-31.5w on idle without my extra SSD added.
Edited by: "nirvanaman" 28th Nov 2015
does this have a HDMI output? I am looking to use this as a day to day PC and just bought the ASUS monitor deal.
heraferi

does this have a HDMI output? I am looking to use this as a day to day PC … does this have a HDMI output? I am looking to use this as a day to day PC and just bought the ASUS monitor deal.



VGA port
2x Displayport ports

No HDMI or DVI you'll need an adapter and as HDMI & DVI require a clock signal it may need to be an active adapter not just a passive one.
Is this better than the HP ProLiant Gen8, its currently £102 after cashback?
dabs.com/pro…=16

Edited by: "gordo1964" 28th Nov 2015
BigYoSpeck

VGA port2x Displayport portsNo HDMI or DVI you'll need an adapter and as … VGA port2x Displayport portsNo HDMI or DVI you'll need an adapter and as HDMI & DVI require a clock signal it may need to be an active adapter not just a passive one.



I think a passive one will be ok if you are using a single monitor setup *I think*.

I've got an active DP to DVI adapter plugged into my PC but that's because I've got a triple monitor setup so 2 running HDMI and the other via DP to DVI. It was a while ago I bought it though but I think I went active because of a multi monitor setup.
spaceghost

Another person here with an N54L potentially looking to upgrade. Will … Another person here with an N54L potentially looking to upgrade. Will this be any good for transcoding with Plex? My micro server is really struggling lately. Thanks



Could you stick a Low Profile GPU into your N54L and get the GPU to do the transcoding on the fly? That may be a better option?

I've got a N40L and N54L and don't see this as a replacement although I'd see it as a possible contender if I was looking to buy new.
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gordo1964

Is this better than the HP ProLiant Gen8, its currently £102 after … Is this better than the HP ProLiant Gen8, its currently £102 after cashback?http://www.dabs.com/products/hp-proliant-gen8-entry-intel-g1610t-celeron-4gb-ram-microserver-819185-421-BM14.html?q=HP%20ProLiant%20Gen8&src=16


That depends on what your needs are. This is 50% faster than the HP for single core apps and 35% faster for dual core apps, has better graphics, has more usb3 ports, has displayports and comes with a harddrive. This uses intel's haswell cpu platform, the HP uses intel's older ivy bridge platform. The HP will use less power and is smaller. Here is a benchmark comparing both cpus: cpubenchmark.net/com…php?cmp[]=2020&cmp[]=2075
Edited by: "nirvanaman" 28th Nov 2015
nirvanaman

That depends on what your needs are. This is 50% faster than the HP, has … That depends on what your needs are. This is 50% faster than the HP, has better graphics, has more usb3 ports, has displayports and comes with a harddrive. The HP will use less power and is smaller.


Thanks. I'll probably go for the HP as its only to be used as a Minecraft server that my son will be setting up over Christmas. Looking at the Server OS. Linux seems to be free but Microsoft seems to be over £100. Is it straight forward to set up a Linux server?
gordo1964

Is it straight forward to set up a Linux server?



Some may say it is but TBH IMO it isn't. You can get cheap versions of Windows 7/8/8.1 popping up now and again.

I work on Linux servers all day and wouldn't think of running it on my PC, although if you just want it for minecraft server then it might be ok and I'll bet there are a few step by step guides to doing that in Linux as well.
notavalidaddress

Some may say it is but TBH IMO it isn't. You can get cheap versions of … Some may say it is but TBH IMO it isn't. You can get cheap versions of Windows 7/8/8.1 popping up now and again.I work on Linux servers all day and wouldn't think of running it on my PC, although if you just want it for minecraft server then it might be ok and I'll bet there are a few step by step guides to doing that in Linux as well.


Just one more question. So I could run Windows 7 on it as use it as a server and not have to purchase specific Server OS?
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