Dell PowerEdge T20 Intel G3220 4gb RAM 500gb HDD Mini Tower Server + Delivery at Ebuyer for £129.96
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Dell PowerEdge T20 Intel G3220 4gb RAM 500gb HDD Mini Tower Server + Delivery at Ebuyer for £129.96

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Found 6th Jan
Dell PowerEdge T20 Pentium G3220 3GHz 4GB RAM 500GB HDD Mini Tower Server Product Description

The quiet and compact PowerEdge T20 mini tower server packs large internal storage capacity and capable performance designed to deliver efficient and worry-free operation in your small or home office.

Price includes standard 3-5 day delivery but other options are available. Incredible bit of kit given the price in my humble opinion.

I'm using this as a home media server and is the perfect upgrade for my N54L, all I need to do is transfer HDD's and RAM, I also have a dedicated (low power) graphics card as well.

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If this had more HDD bays, it would make a decent NAS.

No Dell cashback this month?

Original Poster

No, only on the Xeon versions which are more expensive unfortunately. This still being cheaper even with the cashback on the better systems.

SaleChaser

If this had more HDD bays, it would make a decent NAS.



It can take 4 x 3.5" drives and 2 x 2.5" drives and DOES make a good NAS. How many more bays do you need?

"Queue debate about G4400 being used in a server..."
Queue debate about eBuyer?
Ah, see you've changed description!

"32 GB (max)" (memory).
Hmmm. Tempted to upgrade trusty NL36 VM box as that's limited to 16GB.
Heat.

Original Poster

LOL yes I don't know why I put that, I'd been looking at other servers as well! Point still stands that queue debate and I think it will be fine and upgradeable in the future :-)

I've got 8gb in my N54L so can instantly upgrade the T20 and can upgrade if needed in the future.

N54L processor is soldered onto the board but this isn't which means I can make it more powerful further down the line. Currently it (N54L) struggles a bit with x265 decoding (use it as a HTPC on my TV also).

Got one of these, seems pretty good. Need to add a dual nic so that I can use it as a vpn router, my real router isn't fast enough.

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tek-monkey

Got one of these, seems pretty good. Need to add a dual nic so that I can … Got one of these, seems pretty good. Need to add a dual nic so that I can use it as a vpn router, my real router isn't fast enough.



You can bypass the router? Is that ADSL/Fibre? I'm on Virgin and it comes in on what looks similar to coaxial so don't think it's possible. I also use VPN but if I could do it at the point of origin as opposed to each individual terminal it would be awesome!

Does any one know if this mini tower could be easily upgraded to use for top end gaming?

bought this last year for £99 after cashbook from Server plus. decent server.

Kristisn

Does any one know if this mini tower could be easily upgraded to use for … Does any one know if this mini tower could be easily upgraded to use for top end gaming?



Not top end. I think its only about 290w PSU. I stuck a 750ti in one thought and that seems fine for some basic gaming. Hope this help

MasterFunk73

Not top end. I think its only about 290w PSU. I stuck a 750ti in one … Not top end. I think its only about 290w PSU. I stuck a 750ti in one thought and that seems fine for some basic gaming. Hope this help



Sorry, cant type this morning

Bought one of these minus the HDD for £75 after Dell cashback a while back on a previous offer, dropped in a cheap Xeon E3-1220 (£45) from ebay....lacking some pretty basic server features though like a Dual NIC and DRAC , still not a bad little server for the money though.

Currently the obvious alternative to Dell T20 is the HPE ML10 Gen9, HPE are running a cashback this month, which makes the ML10 cheaper overall. I've played a bit with both systems, and they both have pros and cons, however, if I were getting one for a home server/NAS application I'd go for the HPE ML10.

Although the build quality of the HPE ML10 isn't as good as the Dell T20, it does have a newer/higher performing CPU (Pentium G4400 vs. Pentium G3220), it can take more RAM (64GB vs. 32GB), it has more on-board SATA ports (6 vs. 4) and the case can take more 3.5" HDDs (6/7 vs. 4), The ML10 also has a lower idle power (16W vs. 19W)

What's a 'queue debate'?

Etiquette of queuing in the UK?

very tempted to upgrade my little n40 .. fact is it does what i ask it to do (often slowly) .. but im sure i could make it do more

Out of interest what OS you thinking of using?? Currently have WHS 2011.. which does all that i want.. I no pretty much any OS can be used for cloud / file sharing / streaming functions with out to much fuss..

BUT WHS = backups are awesome!

getting a new copy of WHS - almost impossible! Any suggestions? main thing i need is easy automated backups of win7 + win10 setups....

4leafed

It can take 4 x 3.5" drives and 2 x 2.5" drives and DOES make a good NAS. … It can take 4 x 3.5" drives and 2 x 2.5" drives and DOES make a good NAS. How many more bays do you need?



​Didn't know it had that many. lookong at the spec sheet showed 1 free bay with the 500gb HDD.

jacthalad

... getting a new copy of WHS - almost impossible! Any suggestions? main … ... getting a new copy of WHS - almost impossible! Any suggestions? main thing i need is easy automated backups of win7 + win10 setups....


The "replacement" for WHS 2011 (which is actually based on Windows Server 2008!) is the Windows Server Essentials edition, there's Windows Server 2012 R2 Essentials and the recently released Windows Sever 2016 Essentials. Now have a look at the cost of those products ... Microsoft have effectively exited the Home Server market. Having said that, I run WS 2012 R2 Essentials on my home server.

Hi Op, which graphics card do you have for this machine? i am tempted to get one too..

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phpandsql

Hi Op, which graphics card do you have for this machine? i am tempted to … Hi Op, which graphics card do you have for this machine? i am tempted to get one too..



It's only like an old Radeon HD 3000 odd series. To be fair could do ith upgrading.

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jacthalad

Out of interest what OS you thinking of using?? Currently have WHS 2011.. … Out of interest what OS you thinking of using?? Currently have WHS 2011.. which does all that i want.. I no pretty much any OS can be used for cloud / file sharing / streaming functions with out to much fuss.. BUT WHS = backups are awesome!As it's for a home server I was either going for W7 or a linux distro. Have Windows 10 but don't fancy it too much, although it will have a Blu-ray drive in it and linux doesn't play blu-ray, at least not easily anyway! getting a new copy of WHS - almost impossible! Any suggestions? main thing i need is easy automated backups of win7 + win10 setups....



I'd use W7, got a copy of W10 but don't get on with it well. Use it at work and much prefer 7. Either W7 or a linux distro but linux doesn't support blu-ray (easily anyway).
Edited by: "borak" 6th Jan

cjed

The "replacement" for WHS 2011 (which is actually based on Windows Server … The "replacement" for WHS 2011 (which is actually based on Windows Server 2008!) is the Windows Server Essentials edition, there's Windows Server 2012 R2 Essentials and the recently released Windows Sever 2016 Essentials. Now have a look at the cost of those products ... Microsoft have effectively exited the Home Server market. Having said that, I run WS 2012 R2 Essentials on my home server.



The Reality is that in 99% of installs the Server OS ( 2012 R2 or 2016) add nothing that a domestic user would need that isn't now included in the desktop versions of Win8.1/10

What functionally of 2012 R2 are you using that you couldn't do with Win10?

I'm running a copy of 2016 Standard on one of my servers at home but when I think about it I can't think of anything it's doing that I couldn't If it had Win10 on it..:)


borak

I'd use W7, got a copy of W10 but don't get on with it well. Use it at … I'd use W7, got a copy of W10 but don't get on with it well. Use it at work and much prefer 7. Either W7 or a linux distro but linux doesn't support blu-ray (easily anyway).



Or Win10 and Classicshell



borak

I'd use W7, got a copy of W10 but don't get on with it well. Use it at … I'd use W7, got a copy of W10 but don't get on with it well. Use it at work and much prefer 7. Either W7 or a linux distro but linux doesn't support blu-ray (easily anyway).



yeah i can certainly setup a win7 or 10 environment, but wasn't sure if i was then asking a car to do the job of a van!
how about automated backups of network computers? (im sure it can be done, but not looked into it).. Not worried about bluray etc.. if i replaced my server it would be doing what it does now........ Daily backups of network machines + file sharing (mainly movies / music to tv)


cjed

The "replacement" for WHS 2011 (which is actually based on Windows Server … The "replacement" for WHS 2011 (which is actually based on Windows Server 2008!) is the Windows Server Essentials edition, there's Windows Server 2012 R2 Essentials and the recently released Windows Sever 2016 Essentials. Now have a look at the cost of those products ... Microsoft have effectively exited the Home Server market. Having said that, I run WS 2012 R2 Essentials on my home server.




Yeah I saw 2012 essential is the replacement and the COST!! can it be used in the same way WHS connector setup for backups?

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jacthalad

yeah i can certainly setup a win7 or 10 environment, but wasn't sure if i … yeah i can certainly setup a win7 or 10 environment, but wasn't sure if i was then asking a car to do the job of a van! how about automated backups of network computers? (im sure it can be done, but not looked into it).. Not worried about bluray etc.. if i replaced my server it would be doing what it does now........ Daily backups of network machines + file sharing (mainly movies / music to tv)Yeah I saw 2012 essential is the replacement and the COST!! can it be used in the same way WHS connector setup for backups?



I don't backup at the minute to be honest, films/music/downloads are 'fodder' as in I wouldn't be devastated if I lost them and my photos and important info are all cloud backed up (Google Drive).

I know Windows has a plethora of backup programs however so you shouldn't have a problem.

i use one of these as a desktop with an AMD R7 240 graphics card that was about £50 or so, as it was one of the highest performing cards with a low power consumption to suit the PSU. I wouldn't have otherwise bothered, I mainly got that as the DVDI output didn't have sound to use with an HDMI adapter

I stuck a couple more SATA cards in and managed to squeeze at least 2 or 3 more drives in than standard. in the optical bay I put an SSD for boot drive and 1tb 2.5" drive I had spare, plus a couple of 6tb drives and an 8TB, a 2TB and one or two 3 or 4tb drives and it runs fine using windows 10, although on the beta testing thing the updates have had issues a couple of times but nothing too bad - no need to reinstall. I added a cheap USB soundcard to give optical out and use a USB caddy with a laptop dvd writer when I need to use discs

I have been looking a while to get some extra RAM but finding it hard to get a good deal. ideally I want to buy 8gb sticks at a time and gradually fill it with 32gb, and upgrade the processor to something quad core and that will run more VM's than the G3220, but it's been a good machine the last few months. I would have preferred if it had a full size optical bay and sound with the DVI but it's not a huge problem

jacthalad

Out of interest what OS you thinking of using?? Currently have WHS 2011.. … Out of interest what OS you thinking of using?? Currently have WHS 2011.. which does all that i want.. I no pretty much any OS can be used for cloud / file sharing / streaming functions with out to much fuss.. BUT WHS = backups are awesome!getting a new copy of WHS - almost impossible! Any suggestions? main thing i need is easy automated backups of win7 + win10 setups....



If WHS 2011 works for you maybe stick with it. Do you still have the disks?

I need a i3 desktop PC bundle but haven't seen any recently posted, soon good deals in the past from Tesco for under £300 but nothing in over a month. Anyone see any please let me know.

tek-monkey

Got one of these, seems pretty good. Need to add a dual nic so that I … Got one of these, seems pretty good. Need to add a dual nic so that I can use it as a vpn router, my real router isn't fast enough.

Uridium

Bought one of these minus the HDD for £75 after Dell cashback a while … Bought one of these minus the HDD for £75 after Dell cashback a while back on a previous offer, dropped in a cheap Xeon E3-1220 (£45) from ebay....lacking some pretty basic server features though like a Dual NIC and DRAC , still not a bad little server for the money though.



I'm not bypassing the router, I just want to encrypt everything that goes through it and it just isn't powerful enough (I get about 15mb with openVPN). Instead I want this to sit in between the router and my network, this would encrypt the traffic leaving my router to act as normal. Just need to work out what to do with the wireless, as that will then be outside the encrypted network.


Do you have a supported CPU list? All I can find just lists 3 CPUs:

Your system supports one of the following processors:
One Intel Xeon processor E3-1225v3
One Intel Pentium processor G3220
One Intel Pentium processor G3260

Uridium

Bought one of these minus the HDD for £75 after Dell cashback a while … Bought one of these minus the HDD for £75 after Dell cashback a while back on a previous offer, dropped in a cheap Xeon E3-1220 (£45) from ebay....lacking some pretty basic server features though like a Dual NIC and DRAC , still not a bad little server for the money though.



An e3-1220 v3 for £45. That is one great deal considering they usually go for well over £100 or more like £200 new.

I have the xeon version but find it ever so slightly sluggish at times with Win 10 but maybe that's because it isn't one of the recommended OS's and I might have been better using 2012 essentials. I had a version of Win 7 sitting around so I used it just before the free Win 10 upgrade came to an end.

tek-monkey

I'm not bypassing the router, I just want to encrypt everything that goes … I'm not bypassing the router, I just want to encrypt everything that goes through it and it just isn't powerful enough (I get about 15mb with openVPN). Instead I want this to sit in between the router and my network, this would encrypt the traffic leaving my router to act as normal. Just need to work out what to do with the wireless, as that will then be outside the encrypted network.



Wireless card in the PC, second router or wireless access point would be the only options unless your current router supports vlans.

jacthalad

...Yeah I saw 2012 essential is the replacement and the COST!! can it be … ...Yeah I saw 2012 essential is the replacement and the COST!! can it be used in the same way WHS connector setup for backups?


Yes, it works in exactly the same way, there's a similar Dashboard where you can monitor/configure the backups for each client machine, and the main server backup. Installation/setup is a little more complex as it insists on creating a Domain, but if you're familiar with WHS 2011 it shouldn't be too much of a culture shock.

OK. I bought one of these from ServerPlus in November 2015. I also bought a 128GB SSD, made that the boot drive and installed Windows 10 and office on that. I've since add 16GB RAM (now has 20GB) and a GTX 750ti graphics card. Last week I upgraded the CPU to the Xeon E3-1231v3. There are a number of CPUs that will work with this, I can confirm the E3-1231vs works fine (quad core 3.4 Ghz, 3.8Ghz on boost) but remember this does not have a built in GPU so you will need a separate graphics card. The next upgrade will be a better graphics card, the 750ti has a 75w drain and I believe the 1050 and 1050ti also have the same power consumption so I can still do something within the limited PSU. So I think you can get up to a 1050ti at best at present but maybe in the future there will be better low powered cards.

Almost forgot, also added a 3TB drive for games etc.

Uridium

... The Reality is that in 99% of installs the Server OS ( 2012 R2 or … ... The Reality is that in 99% of installs the Server OS ( 2012 R2 or 2016) add nothing that a domestic user would need that isn't now included in the desktop versions of Win8.1/10What functionally of 2012 R2 are you using that you couldn't do with Win10? ...



There are two main reasons why I use Windows Server rather than a Windows client OS. The first is stability, MS are much more careful with updates/patches for the Server OSes, and I'd run pretty much anything else than Windows 10 with it's ridiculous update policy on a server that is supposed to be running 24/7. Then there are the tools to manage users and Windows Client PC backups etc. In my household there are a number of Windows PCs, and twice the bare metal restore facility in WHS/WS Essentials has saved a lot of grief when a PC has killed itself (Windows 10 update again) or been toasted by it's user.
It's possible to set up Windows 10 Pro to do a lot of what you get OOTB with the server OSes, especially if you're prepared to invest the time to investigate/setup 3rd party software (backup etc.), but I prefer having it all done for me.

myapps

If WHS 2011 works for you maybe stick with it. Do you still have the … If WHS 2011 works for you maybe stick with it. Do you still have the disks?



yeah i do have the original setup (and key somewhere) I agree i am very tempted in just sticking to what i know works... that being said... everyone likes an upgrade? and if i did go for another OS would mean my little n40 whs could stay as a backup backup.. or more likely go to friend who wants to do the same


borak

I don't backup at the minute to be honest, films/music/downloads are … I don't backup at the minute to be honest, films/music/downloads are 'fodder' as in I wouldn't be devastated if I lost them and my photos and important info are all cloud backed up (Google Drive). I know Windows has a plethora of backup programs however so you shouldn't have a problem.




Yeah no doubt bit of diggin i could get win 7 or 10 to do what WHS does and probably more...



cjed

Yes, it works in exactly the same way, there's a similar Dashboard where … Yes, it works in exactly the same way, there's a similar Dashboard where you can monitor/configure the backups for each client machine, and the main server backup. Installation/setup is a little more complex as it insists on creating a Domain, but if you're familiar with WHS 2011 it shouldn't be too much of a culture shock.



thanks for the feedback.. the cost is still a bit to digest but if backups work like whs it maybe worth considering


thanks again for all the feedback given...

SaleChaser

If this had more HDD bays, it would make a decent NAS.

SaleChaser

It can take 4 x 3.5" drives and 2 x 2.5" drives and DOES make a good NAS. … It can take 4 x 3.5" drives and 2 x 2.5" drives and DOES make a good NAS. How many more bays do you need?​Didn't know it had that many. lookong at the spec sheet showed 1 free bay with the 500gb HDD.






If memory serves the downside to this is there are not SATA connector to connect to on the motherboard - so while it has the slots you cant use all the discs as per HP Gen8 unless you buy a SATA card.

Anyone confirm and recommend a SATA card
Edited by: "mgk" 6th Jan

Uridium

Or Win10 and Classicshell



Reckon running Commander Keen or Fantasy World Dizzy would be pushing it then?

myapps

Wireless card in the PC, second router or wireless access point would be … Wireless card in the PC, second router or wireless access point would be the only options unless your current router supports vlans.



Wireless only encrypts between the router and client, not through the router, unless it's between wireless clients. Even then, the traffic is decrypted when it gets to the router and encrypted before it leaves the router. If traffic comes from a wireless client to go to the internet the router decrypts before sending it to the internet.

If you want to encrypt everything that traverses the network you have to make everything wireless for locally-encrypted comms and use a VPN client on the router to encrypt everything that goes to the internet (or just use a VPN client on each wireless client). If you use a VPN client on each wireless client just make sure you don't disable local LAN access.

VLANs don't do any encryption, they just logically separate traffic.

the__cat

Wireless only encrypts between the router and client, not through the … Wireless only encrypts between the router and client, not through the router, unless it's between wireless clients. Even then, the traffic is decrypted when it gets to the router and encrypted before it leaves the router. If traffic comes from a wireless client to go to the internet the router decrypts before sending it to the internet.If you want to encrypt everything that traverses the network you have to make everything wireless for locally-encrypted comms and use a VPN client on the router to encrypt everything that goes to the internet (or just use a VPN client on each wireless client). If you use a VPN client on each wireless client just make sure you don't disable local LAN access.VLANs don't do any encryption, they just logically separate traffic.



The VPN client on the router is too slow, hence me thinking of using this as a VPN router that then passes off traffic to the main router. If I added a wireless card to this it could probably work as such.

the__cat

Wireless only encrypts between the router and client, not through the … Wireless only encrypts between the router and client, not through the router, unless it's between wireless clients. Even then, the traffic is decrypted when it gets to the router and encrypted before it leaves the router. If traffic comes from a wireless client to go to the internet the router decrypts before sending it to the internet.If you want to encrypt everything that traverses the network you have to make everything wireless for locally-encrypted comms and use a VPN client on the router to encrypt everything that goes to the internet (or just use a VPN client on each wireless client). If you use a VPN client on each wireless client just make sure you don't disable local LAN access.VLANs don't do any encryption, they just logically separate traffic.



All scenarios I mentioned would be routing the traffic through the PC which is acting as a VPN gateway. So everything would be encrypted.
Edited by: "myapps" 6th Jan
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