Dell T20 server now even cheaper! £143.94 delivered @ Serverplus
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Dell T20 server now even cheaper! £143.94 delivered @ Serverplus

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Found 19th Jul 2016
I know that this has been posted a few times but it now includes free postage which it didn't before. That makes it £73.94 all in after cash back.

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deleted1032520
Make a fine PVR server!
Is it possible to connect remotely from phone, tablet etc to upload files?
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Jamie200

Is it possible to connect remotely from phone, tablet etc to upload files?



Yes look at software like owncloud. Xpenology etc.
Edited by: "deleted1032520" 19th Jul 2016
its a shame their isnt a decent enough deal on the xeon ones atm
How man spare drive slots does this have?
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jimbob2010

How man spare drive slots does this have?



No idea I don't own one yet, I'm fairly sure you could Google it though, likely in less time than typing that question lol.
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bouncy99

its a shame their isnt a decent enough deal on the xeon ones atm



Servers direct have the xeon one for something like £173 plus vat after cash back.

But to be fair this should be powerful enough for home.
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jimbob2010

How man spare drive slots does this have?



The specs state 4. Click the link.
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Add one of these ebay.co.uk/itm…613 or one/two of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191761248467

Chuck in a HDD and you have a whole house PVR server for Kodi live TV that will easily handle 4 concurrent recording along with file serving.
OrribleHarry

Servers direct have the xeon one for something like £173 plus vat after … Servers direct have the xeon one for something like £173 plus vat after cash back. But to be fair this should be powerful enough for home.


really, dont suppose you have a link? thanks.
OrribleHarry

http://www.serversdirect.co.uk/dell-poweredge-t20-xeon-e3-1225v3-3.2-ghz-4gb-ram-1tb-hdd-tower-server-t20-3708/version.asp


thanks, i had literally just found it
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bouncy99

thanks, i had literally just found it



More powerful but overkill for home use, unless you really must transcode, I prefer native decoding personally.
OrribleHarry

More powerful but overkill for home use, unless you really must … More powerful but overkill for home use, unless you really must transcode, I prefer native decoding personally.


i totally agree, native decoding is preferred, however while the tv handles that perfectly, the smart phone and tablet dont play as well and the xeon will do the trick.
jimbob2010

How man spare drive slots does this have?



I have a T20 with the Xeon CPU - There are 4 internal 3.5" drive bays with plastic caddies. There are 2 internal 2.5" drive bays in the slot where you fit the slimline optical drive (i.e. it's one or the other). There is an additional 3.5" bay which was originally for a floppy drive. You can just about fit a 3.5" HDD in there, or you could buy a 3.5" to 2.5" convertor kit and fit a couple of 2.5" drives there.

I have 4 3TB HDDs in the 3.5" bays and an SSD and HDD in the 2.5" bays. You need an additional SATA adapter, cables and power splitters for this many drives. I used the following:

http://eud.dx.com/product/iocrest-marvell-88se9215-chipset-sata-iii-6gbps-4-port-pci-express-controller-card-green-844282997

2x amazon.co.uk/gp/…age?ie=UTF8&psc=1
(you want right angled cables for the 3.5" bays, otherwise you'll struggle to get the side back on the case)

2x amazon.co.uk/gp/…c=1

Edited by: "Berwhale" 19th Jul 2016
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bouncy99

i totally agree, native decoding is preferred, however while the tv … i totally agree, native decoding is preferred, however while the tv handles that perfectly, the smart phone and tablet dont play as well and the xeon will do the trick.



What devices are you trying to compensate for?
OrribleHarry

What devices are you trying to compensate for?


xperia z3, and a windows 10 tablet, both while being powerful enough to transcode in their own right, sees ac3 and decides that instead of the client being capable, it needs it fed to it in stereo.
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bouncy99

xperia z3, and a windows 10 tablet, both while being powerful enough to … xperia z3, and a windows 10 tablet, both while being powerful enough to transcode in their own right, sees ac3 and decides that instead of the client being capable, it needs it fed to it in stereo.



Sounds like a codec/software issue try VLC player?
OrribleHarry

More powerful but overkill for home use, unless you really must … More powerful but overkill for home use, unless you really must transcode, I prefer native decoding personally.



I have the Xeon version - I have Plex setup to transcode files automatically as they appear and then send them to my phone so I can watch them on the train in the morning
OrribleHarry

Add one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181765074613 or one/two of … Add one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181765074613 or one/two of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191761248467Chuck in a HDD and you have a whole house PVR server for Kodi live TV that will easily handle 4 concurrent recording along with file serving.



that's how I use my HP microserver but not many people seem to do it! What backend software do you use? I use TVheadend and Kodi on the same back/front end, I only have Freeview and recently got a HD adapter so going to try and get that as a tuner in TVheadend too. Works great for me, if I was going to upgrade to this it'd only be to add the capability to transcode Plex to my parents, hot deal OP but i'm undecided.
Berhwale

I have a T20 with the Xeon CPU - There are 4 internal 3.5" drive bays … I have a T20 with the Xeon CPU - There are 4 internal 3.5" drive bays with plastic caddies. There are 2 internal 2.5" drive bays in the slot where you fit the slimline optical drive (i.e. it's one or the other). There is an additional 3.5" bay which was originally for a floppy drive. You can just about fit a 3.5" HDD in there, or you could buy a 3.5" to 2.5" convertor kit and fit a couple of 2.5" drives there.I have 4 3TB HDDs in the 3.5" bays and an SSD and HDD in the 2.5" bays. You need an additional SATA adapter, cables and power splitters for this many drives. I used the following:http://eud.dx.com/product/iocrest-marvell-88se9215-chipset-sata-iii-6gbps-4-port-pci-express-controller-card-green-8442829972x https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B009KLPSIE/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1(you want right angled cables for the 3.5" bays, otherwise you'll struggle to get the side back on the case)2x https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00D11RQ8Y/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1



So, that's your porn collection taken care of.
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Berhwale

I have the Xeon version - I have Plex setup to transcode files … I have the Xeon version - I have Plex setup to transcode files automatically as they appear and then send them to my phone so I can watch them on the train in the morning



Yeah plex is very CPU heavy, there are lighter ways.
OrribleHarry

xperia z3, and a windows 10 tablet, both while being powerful enough to … xperia z3, and a windows 10 tablet, both while being powerful enough to transcode in their own right, sees ac3 and decides that instead of the client being capable, it needs it fed to it in stereo.



Transcoding the audio stream doesn't require much grunt...

https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/201566396-How-are-Direct-Play-Direct-Stream-and-Transcoding-different-

Try fiddling with the device capabilities on the client in Settings/Video/Audio section.
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joshtbh

that's how I use my HP microserver but not many people seem to do it! … that's how I use my HP microserver but not many people seem to do it! What backend software do you use? I use TVheadend and Kodi on the same back/front end, I only have Freeview and recently got a HD adapter so going to try and get that as a tuner in TVheadend too. Works great for me, if I was going to upgrade to this it'd only be to add the capability to transcode Plex to my parents, hot deal OP but i'm undecided.



I use a dedicated headless TVheaded server that serves all my Kodi clients, it also serves movies, automatic smartphone and file backup. Works great, I also use this on a N54L but looking at this as a replacement, it's approximately 60% more powerful than the N54L. When you say transcode to your parents you mean webstreaming via plex or TV headed?
Daft question - could I use this as just a normal home PC?
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samspud

Daft question - could I use this as just a normal home PC?



Yes

OrribleHarry

Yeah plex is very CPU heavy, there are lighter ways.



I run Plex on Xpenology under a VM running on vSphere 6. I wouldn't say that Plex was particularly heavy, transcoding will max the CPU, but that's what I want as it gets the job done as quick as possible.
OrribleHarry

Yes



Yes, it will make a great home PC after you have bought a keyboard, mouse and an operating system. It's slightly faster than my desktop which has a top of the range i5 from the last generation of Intel CPUs.
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Berhwale

I run Plex on Xpenology under a VM running on vSphere 6. I wouldn't say … I run Plex on Xpenology under a VM running on vSphere 6. I wouldn't say that Plex was particularly heavy, transcoding will max the CPU, but that's what I want as it gets the job done as quick as possible.



Plex is heavy compared to native streaming, I took plex off mine as it was making machine noisy, I just use clients that are up to the job instead of compensating for them via transcoding. Although running virtual machines like that is quite heavy compared to running on a dedicated machine.
Line runs Plex,sonarr and deluge with 4*2tb HDD.

Plex has 7 users, 4 folks can stream content at the sane time and never had CPU bottleneck. Those G3 chips are just silly.
GDB2222

So, that's your porn collection taken care of.



​4 slots won't be enough.
Berhwale

Yes, it will make a great home PC after you have bought a keyboard, mouse … Yes, it will make a great home PC after you have bought a keyboard, mouse and an operating system. It's slightly faster than my desktop which has a top of the range i5 from the last generation of Intel CPUs.



I'll second that - I'm using one right now to type this
The only condition is that the internal sound card is appalling, very thin\tinny sounding (unsurprisingly, it's a server!) so if you like watching movies, listening to music etc you'd probably want to add a sound card too.
Apart from that, it rocks as a home PC - more than enough power for most tasks.

The cashback takes some time to arrive, almost the full 30 working days for me, but it was a painless process.

HTH

Dave
OrribleHarry

Plex is heavy compared to native streaming, I took plex off mine as it … Plex is heavy compared to native streaming, I took plex off mine as it was making machine noisy, I just use clients that are up to the job instead of compensating for them via transcoding. Although running virtual machines like that is quite heavy compared to running on a dedicated machine.



​That seems an odd point. Yes the plex will work the cpu harder as it's converting the video and audio as apposed to just file sharing. But if I have a bluray rip that's full surround, and too high quality. It's cheaper to get the server to transcode than find portable devices that can cope with dts etc. While outside the house too my cable speed out isn't high enough to stream a 4gb movie file but transcode to 1080p or 720p stereo and no issue as sending about 1.5gb
OrribleHarry

Plex is heavy compared to native streaming, I took plex off mine as it … Plex is heavy compared to native streaming, I took plex off mine as it was making machine noisy, I just use clients that are up to the job instead of compensating for them via transcoding. Although running virtual machines like that is quite heavy compared to running on a dedicated machine.



I also prefer native, that's why I have two Nvidia Shield TVs which will cope with anything I can throw at them. I also have a Roku 3 that can struggle on a wireless connection and I want to watch stuff on the train in the morning...

The tiny overhead of running Xpenology in a hypervisor is more than compensated for by the fact that I can run multiple VMs and make use of the other 20GB of RAM in the server.
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alexus

​That seems an odd point. Yes the plex will work the cpu harder as it's c … ​That seems an odd point. Yes the plex will work the cpu harder as it's converting the video and audio as apposed to just file sharing. But if I have a bluray rip that's full surround, and too high quality. It's cheaper to get the server to transcode than find portable devices that can cope with dts etc. While outside the house too my cable speed out isn't high enough to stream a 4gb movie file but transcode to 1080p or 720p stereo and no issue as sending about 1.5gb



I see what you're saying and understand that everyone's needs vary, I personally never have the need to stream a full quality BluRay rip via the Internet. Obviously there are other ways of doing what you require such as Emby, but in general on-the-fly transcoding requires a lot of expensive hardware and energy.
My point was within the home basic OpenELEC clients ranging from something as cheap as a Raspberry Pi3 can natively decode anything you throw at it so why transcode?
OrribleHarry

Add one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181765074613 or one/two of … Add one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181765074613 or one/two of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191761248467Chuck in a HDD and you have a whole house PVR server for Kodi live TV that will easily handle 4 concurrent recording along with file serving.



I've already got this server which is used pretty much for plex and torrents and should really look into something like this, any links to how to get it set up after the card is bought and inserted. Running Windows 10. Cheers.

P.s I pretty much use an nvidia shield solely to stream from the server via plex, but do plan to start using it on more devices. Also have an iptv sub running on the shield so might look at shifting that into the server somehow to.
Edited by: "Markgranto" 19th Jul 2016
Any ideas why the hard drive capacity is limited to 13tb?
chrisnicholls10

Any ideas why the hard drive capacity is limited to 13tb?



It's only limited to the 13TB by the options that Dell provide - there's nothing stopping you from putting 4x 8TB 3.5" and 2x 2.5" 3TB drives in it with the adapter and cables I linked to earlier. Power and space will be a limiting factor at some point, but I run 6 drives without issue.
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Markgranto

I've already got this server which is used pretty much for plex and … I've already got this server which is used pretty much for plex and torrents and should really look into something like this, any links to how to get it set up after the card is bought and inserted. Running Windows 10. Cheers. P.s I pretty much use an nvidia shield solely to stream from the server via plex, but do plan to start using it on more devices. Also have an iptv sub running on the shield so might look at shifting that into the server somehow to.



Hi I use TVHeadend for live TV on Linux, although as plex pretty much kills all resources you may struggle whilst doing anything "heavy" to expect your server to still record 4 channels at once while serving movies/recordings etc. TVHeadend doesn't use much CPU in itself I can record 4 seperate HD channels at 33% CPU. I'd recommend ditching Windows and Plex if you want a one box does all solution or having a separate server.
OrribleHarry

so why transcode?



Bandwidth and space. My server will transcode 60 minutes of 1080p video to 720p @ 4mbps and transfer it to my phone over wireless in under 10 minutes (whilst I sleep). The 720p files take up much less space on my phone, so I'm able to store unwatched episodes for several shows along with a sizable music collection in 64GB (I have a Nexus 6P, so no microSD storage expansion).
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