Dell Vostro 3900 desktop, i5 4460 3.2GHz, Win7Pro/Win8.1Pro, W10 , 4GB, 500GB HD £286.50 @ Ballicom
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Dell Vostro 3900 desktop, i5 4460 3.2GHz, Win7Pro/Win8.1Pro, W10 , 4GB, 500GB HD £286.50 @ Ballicom

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Found 28th Mar 2016
Dell Vostro 3900 desktop, Core i5 4460 quadcore 3.2 GHz - 4 GB ram - 500 GB hard drive, intel HD graphics, DVD drive, HDMI and VGA ports, Win 7Pro / Win 8Pro licence and W10Pro free upgrade and believe it or not, it has PS2 keyboard/mouse ports for older legacy items that businesses may use (KVM etc) Model: 1K6CF - currently £286.50 from Ballicom with free delivery option.

While this isn't the latest cutting edge i5 CPU, it is a decent performer and sells for £150 on its own. Currently this PC sells for £376 on Dell small business (I paid this a month ago!) and comes with Windows 7 Pro loaded as downgrade rights option - it comes with Win8.1 Pro licence and install DVD that allows for downgrade to W7 Pro and of course free upgrade to Win10 Pro, your choice. £15 buys you another 4GB ram from Crucial memory and it has a couple of PCI/PCI-E slots for upgrades (unlike some lower cost desktops)

I don't think it comes with the 19in1 card reader despite it showing (mine didn't)
Supplied with USB Keyboard & wired mouse, W8.1Pro install DVD and utilities DVD and a IEC power lead.
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I expect this to not be a popular deal as it's a business desktop really, but it has a decent i5 4460 processor and the PC has 'some' upgrade capabilities. I just got one of these and added 4GB more ram from Crucial for £15 and bunged in a £30 Sandisk SSD and the thing flies as you'd expect. Comes with Windows 7 Pro installed (for business users), comes with Windows 8.1 Pro licence and install DVD and of course is Windows 10 Pro upgradeable for free. I unpacked, inserted a new SSD drive and loaded Windows 10 Pro straight from a W10 download tool that comes from MS so no Dell junk gets installed and it boots in 10 seconds and is a perfect home/office PC.

It eats through taskes and plays HD videos using just a few CPU % - while it's no gamer PC it's a great all rounder.

Yes no doubt someone can build it cheaper but I bet they can't inlcude the genuine MS Windows licence in their build costs (Reddit licences don't count!)

Internals:
2 DIMM slots
PCIe x1: 2 Slots
PCIe x16 (Graphics): 1 Slot
PCI: 1 Slot

Note the 300w power supply has a spare HD plug and a spare optical plug but that's it, no connectors for graphics cards. I installed my SSD drive under the optical drive using a small bracket.


Edited by: "spannerzone" 28th Mar 2016
4GB Crucial memory upgrade CT7324509 currently £15.59 incl delivery - not sure if you really need more ram for an home/office PC but at this price it's almost pointless not to, plus a second stick should mean it runs in dual channel mode so slight performance increase as well as the ram increase.. An SSD drive for £30 like the Sandisks that are often on HUKD are the best instant boost upgrade to add.

Edited by: "spannerzone" 28th Mar 2016
decent for the price. i have this CPU in my gaming PC (self built) and it cost me about £140 on its own, so RAM, HDD, case + PSU, motherboard and windows license for £140 is pretty good value

anyone know if the PSU is ATX or Dell's own size to fit the case?
6620 cpu benchmark is pretty good!
adamspencer95

decent for the price. i have this CPU in my gaming PC (self built) and it … decent for the price. i have this CPU in my gaming PC (self built) and it cost me about £140 on its own, so RAM, HDD, case + PSU, motherboard and windows license for £140 is pretty good valueanyone know if the PSU is ATX or Dell's own size to fit the case?


Looks like a standard ATX powersupply when I was inside mine.
A fairly poorly written review on TechRadar where they state it has the card reader but their pictures show it doesn't.

s%20manual_en-us.pdf]Owners Manual (some pictures in that manual are for another model so take note!)
Edited by: "spannerzone" 28th Mar 2016
spannerzone


Yep

Dell PC's are brilliant.

Personally own third Optiplex.
Second hand cost me F** all.

This time it's Optiplex 7010 with Core i5-3470 - pretty fast CPU for it's age.
Added some RAM and SSD. So It's lighting fast.

PC runs 24/7 - in 18 months time never restarted, or never frozen.
Business class PC are much more reliable (and power efficient) than domestic ones.
adamspencer95

decent for the price. i have this CPU in my gaming PC (self built) and it … decent for the price. i have this CPU in my gaming PC (self built) and it cost me about £140 on its own, so RAM, HDD, case + PSU, motherboard and windows license for £140 is pretty good valueanyone know if the PSU is ATX or Dell's own size to fit the case?


http://cdn1.mos.techradar.futurecdn.net//art/TRBC/Desktops/Dell/Vostro%203900/vostro%203-650-80.jpg
That's the inside of the Dell.
I have an Asus business pc which looked the same with the standard psu in. When I fitted a more powerful one to replace I couldn't get the dvd back in, the pus and dvd were pretty much touching. But who needs a dvd drive these days?

edit: my Asus has a i7-3770, 16GB of ram in 4 slots and a 1TB drive and was pretty much this price second hand on eBay over a year ago. So for new this deal is pretty damn good. Although there are some bargains to be had second hand. At the time just the i3-3770 and ram were worth £300.

Edited by: "MIDURIX" 28th Mar 2016
Dell PCs are fantastic. Picked up a XPS 8700 last year for £699. Came with a i7-4790, GTX 745 and 16GB DDR3 RAM.
Upgraded it a few months later with a GTX 970 and a 600W EVGA power supply (originally had 460W). Can run Witcher 3 on ultra 1080p at 45-60 FPS

They don't sell this PC any more as the 8900 model is out now.
If you're courageous try building your own with an old workstation. I picked up a z400 off of ebay for £80. Had a w3650 xeon with similar performance to this cpu. Put in a gtx 960 i picked up for £120 from Amazon deal. Put in extra memory. Flys through all latest games and stacks of upgradibility for £210.
I think there is enough room to replace the powersupply with another without clashing with the DVD but it's a good point to consider. I thought ATX PSU's were all the sam size but maybe not?

Something to note when I fitted my SSD - this Dell (like many Dell desktops) has a dual side by side hard drive arrangement, this one uses metal rails that you screw onto the hard drive and slot in, note that an SSD drive needs to be inside a caddy to slot into this space BUT annoyingly the power cable plugs seperation isn't enough for an SSD in a caddy as it's neatly and tightly designed for 2 regular 3.5" drives and a slim centre mounted SSD is too far a stretch for the power plug. I mounted mine under the optical drive which does have more play in the power plug.

There's also space under the optical drives, assuming this PC doesn't come with the card reader (it says it does but mine did not and has the same Dell order number)


Edited by: "spannerzone" 28th Mar 2016
fo_sho_yo

If you're courageous try building your own with an old workstation. I … If you're courageous try building your own with an old workstation. I picked up a z400 off of ebay for £80. Had a w3650 xeon with similar performance to this cpu. Put in a gtx 960 i picked up for £120 from Amazon deal. Put in extra memory. Flys through all latest games and stacks of upgradibility for £210.


Yes if you've got some bits and an OS to put on it you can certainly knock together a powerful computer for not much money. What made this Dell appealling was the 'relatively' powerful CPU and the fact it came with Windows Pro (7, 8 or 10) which I wanted and would cost probably £120 to get an OEM licence on a self build.

So, the CPU is say worth £140 and the O/S is perhaps £120 and a 500GB drive maybe £25 and you've paid the same as buying this complete Dell desktop with motherboard, memory, case, DVD, powersupply, cheap mouse, keyboard and warranty.


Edited by: "spannerzone" 28th Mar 2016
What would be required to network this through wifi?
hot deal but what is required to ise the desktop through wifi?
mattholmes

What would be required to network this through wifi?


A WiFi card
Miss the old dell deals that Mike used to post up. Wonder why they don't have many anymore
yus786

Miss the old dell deals that Mike used to post up. Wonder why they don't … Miss the old dell deals that Mike used to post up. Wonder why they don't have many anymore


Dell went private. They don't need to hit targets when it comes to sales. So they don't need to do promotions like Lenovo and HP.
Good price for the spec, thank for all the info
Tempted...
yus786

Miss the old dell deals that Mike used to post up. Wonder why they don't … Miss the old dell deals that Mike used to post up. Wonder why they don't have many anymore



​Remember those days! Carnage online. Major Dell discount code stacking going on

Some proper bargains are had!
yus786

Miss the old dell deals that Mike used to post up. Wonder why they don't … Miss the old dell deals that Mike used to post up. Wonder why they don't have many anymore

siliconbits

Dell went private. They don't need to hit targets when it comes to sales. … Dell went private. They don't need to hit targets when it comes to sales. So they don't need to do promotions like Lenovo and HP.


Also with desktop and laptop sales in decline they've reduced the ranges and options a fair bit and have probably improve on their 'just in time' production and build to order rather than have mass stockpiles.

I ordered this from Dell on 29th Feb with the promise of 2 day delivery, after 3 weeks and revised shipping delays after shipping delays I got mine from Dabs within 2 days. I suspect Dell are working with empty warehouses a lot of the time.

I suspect Dell struggled to make any profits on those deals we used to get with all the heavy discount codes and offers.
Edited by: "spannerzone" 28th Mar 2016
spannerzone

Comes with Windows 7 Pro installed (for business users), comes with … Comes with Windows 7 Pro installed (for business users), comes with Windows 8.1 Pro licence and install DVD and of course is Windows 10 Pro upgradeable for free. I unpacked, inserted a new SSD drive and loaded Windows 10 Pro straight from a W10 download tool that comes from MS so no Dell junk gets installed and it boots in 10 seconds and is a perfect home/office PC.

I'd be wanting Win7 Pro just because I can get my head around it. Out of interest, did you install W10 just to remove any Dell stuff or do you get on OK with the new Windows variant anyway?
Thanks for posting by the way, I'm certainly tempted by this, my old Dell XPS 420 is starting to show its age. :P That was a Dell Outlet purchase by the way.
People were slagging off the recent PC offered here a few days ago because it only had a
500 W power supply , this one only has 300W.
Proveright

People were slagging off the recent PC offered here a few days ago … People were slagging off the recent PC offered here a few days ago because it only had a 500 W power supply , this one only has 300W.


Because that's all that matters eh...? http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-rolleyes007.gif
spannerzone

Comes with Windows 7 Pro installed (for business users), comes with … Comes with Windows 7 Pro installed (for business users), comes with Windows 8.1 Pro licence and install DVD and of course is Windows 10 Pro upgradeable for free................

Blasphemous

I'd be wanting Win7 Pro just because I can get my head around it. Out of … I'd be wanting Win7 Pro just because I can get my head around it. Out of interest, did you install W10 just to remove any Dell stuff or do you get on OK with the new Windows variant anyway?Thanks for posting by the way, I'm certainly tempted by this, my old Dell XPS 420 is starting to show its age. :P That was a Dell Outlet purchase by the way.


Firstly it was for my wife who is very PC literate, secondly it seems inevitable MS will continue to make lives harder for Win7 and Win8 users with more forcible upgrade reminders and them stopping support of features. Even now Win7 users find Windows updates can take days to update if you've reloaded W7 from scratch and have 200+ updates to install...... there is a fix but MS seem to do this to make life harder for older O/S users. And thirdly I didn't want the Dell preinstalled stuff, of which there isn't much to be honest other than a McAfee which must be removed at all costs in my opinion, plus a few Dell update and support programs that I never use or need.

Anyway, I originally dislike W10 on the preview builds, I used Classic Shell and that makes it look and behave like W7 so that's one solution. The other solution is to learn W10 and make it how you want it.... it is possible to make the start button more or less similar to W7, it's easy to put the icons on the desktop that you want (My computer, network, etc) and it's possible to make W10 more or less behave and feel like a slightly newer version rather than the horrible tablet interface that Win8 is associated with.

Win10 is actually ok with the current build and if you're thinking of installing an SSD drive I really would suggest giving it a try and then go to W7 if you really don't or can't use it. The install of W10 onto an SSD is fast, very fast, load the OS onto a USB drive, install took maybe 30 mins and rebooted and because I forgot to remove the USB it tried to start from scratch and reload W10 again (my fault, pay attention!) - after a few dozen W10 updates and installing chipset driver, intel storage and graphics driver, I was up and running. So maybe 1.5hours to get it from nothing to fully up to date.

For fun, I firstly booted up W7 out the box, it took a while to load up and want to do updates.... as it's a traditional hard drive everything felt slow as I'm used to SSD's on all my computers....well after 10 mins of testing the desktop worked I then installed the SSD, installed W10 and the performance improvement with the SSD is massive as you'd expect and W10 is as fast as W7 as far as I can tell.

Edited by: "spannerzone" 28th Mar 2016
Thank you spannerzone.
Blasphemous

Thank you spannerzone.


I'll be honest, I very much disliked W8.1 and use Classic Shell to make it like W7 (on my work PC) and was unimpressed of W10 to start with....since spending a little time making the menus sensible and logical (placing frequently used program icons on the start button menu) I find W10 no harder to use than 7. I do not like that some menus on 10 look different to others.... control panel looks like W7 but system panel is totally different looking...clearly W10 is W7 in origin but new stuff bolted on, designed by 2 teams I suspect.
Proveright

People were slagging off the recent PC offered here a few days ago … People were slagging off the recent PC offered here a few days ago because it only had a 500 W power supply , this one only has 300W.


I can think of a couple solutions:
1: Leave as it is, 300watts is fine for the PC
2: buy a different PC entirely
3: buy a higher powered powersupply and install into this if you need a gaming graphics card with higher power requirements.

I've never needed a power supply larger than 300watts so this suits me.
Edited by: "spannerzone" 28th Mar 2016
Any USB 3.0 ports at the front (or rear)?

*edit* more info here uk.insight.com/en-…759 2 at the rear then.
Edited by: "joepineapples901" 28th Mar 2016
mattholmes

hot deal but what is required to ise the desktop through wifi?


A £15 wifi card that's easy to install such as: amazon.co.uk/TP-…TAQ
joepineapples901

Any USB 3.0 ports at the front (or rear)?


2 x USB3 on the back, plus 2 x USB2 on the back and 2 x USB2 on the front (it's a bit light on USB ports) - there's an internal USB header socket on the motherboard so maybe a possible expansion option.
Edited by: "spannerzone" 28th Mar 2016
Pulled the trigger on this one.
I know you gave a link somewhere earlier to the Ram, could you point toward an SSD? Not sure I'd install one as yet but might be tempted given the low price of the unit.
Thank you again spannerzone.
Blasphemous

Pulled the trigger on this one.I know you gave a link somewhere earlier … Pulled the trigger on this one.I know you gave a link somewhere earlier to the Ram, could you point toward an SSD? Not sure I'd install one as yet but might be tempted given the low price of the unit.Thank you again spannerzone.


I used a Sandisk SSD from Dabs (was £30 when I ordered, currently £35)
And Crucial Memory, 4GB for £15.50

Personally my first upgrade would be the SSD drive as that makes such a huge noticable improvement with the 4GB ram as a secondary and less important upgrade. Many will suggest avoiding the Kingston V300 SSD drives, my personaly favs are Sandisk, Samsung and Crucial.

And as mentioned earlier, the SSD is a slight fiddle to install as they're smaller than the 3.5" hard drives that desktops use, many just use double sided tape/velco to hold in place as they're so light (works fine like this) I happened to have a cheapy 3.5" to 2.5" drive caddy to hand which was helpful

I initially disconnect the 500GB W7 drive while I install W10 onto the new SSD so I didn't accidentally delete W7 during install. Once W10 installed I reconnected the drive and left the 500GB drive in situ. W10 was installed using the easy MS Tool "Using the media creation tool> Perform a clean installation to USB or DVD" I then had the 500GB drive for storage (and available if I needed to revert to W7 by swapping drives)

W10 install was easy, no need to enter any product serial number, it just installed easily. Then once installed and updated I installed intel chipset driver, intel storage controller driver, intel graphics driver. Job done.


Edited by: "spannerzone" 28th Mar 2016
How good is the internal graphics chip?
alistairn

How good is the internal graphics chip?



Not great but fine for general things and light gaming.
Awesome rig if you are on a budget and really need a decent PC for work. Save some money up later and buy a new case, psu, gpu and mobo when you can!
alistairn

How good is the internal graphics chip?


rev6

Not great but fine for general things and light gaming.


I've not done much testing but on a 1920x1080P video the CPU hardly gets into double digits, even on a 4K video it didn't seem to break a sweat. Compared to my little Celeron 1037u (Sandy Bridge based) and that's usually at 80-95% when playing a 1920x1080 video. I know they're worlds apart CPU wise but it was interesting to see how well the i5 4460 handled graphics. No idea about games though, probably like a low end GT610 / 620 video card?

Edited by: "spannerzone" 28th Mar 2016
Does it have the win 7 or win 8 install disc included in the box

If i remove the 500gb drive and replace with an SSD do i need a new cable to connect to the port marked 17 in blue on the pdf page 23.Do i need to change any bios settings ?.

https://www.ballicom.co.uk//docs//01/34/0134fc45-3ec6-4cec-8e4f-0e1b7cb08970.pdf

Also i have a dell u2412m monitor.It has a dvd-i or display port can i just get hdmi to dvd-i cable or display port to hdmi from ebay ?
bigwheels

Does it have the win 7 or win 8 install disc included in the boxIf i … Does it have the win 7 or win 8 install disc included in the boxIf i remove the 500gb drive and replace with an SSD do i need a new cable to connect to the port marked 17 in blue on the pdf page 23.Do i need to change any bios settings ?.https://www.ballicom.co.uk//docs//01/34/0134fc45-3ec6-4cec-8e4f-0e1b7cb08970.pdfAlso i have a dell u2412m monitor.It has a dvd-i or display port can i just get hdmi to dvd-i cable or display port to hdmi from ebay ?



Mine came with a Windows 8.1 Dell branded re-install DVD and a dell utilities DVD. There was no W7 install disc included. There is no physical sticker with any Windows product key (COA) - that info is in the BIOS itself as I understand it.

You could disconnect the hard drive and use the same SATA cable, yes. Doing this shouldn't need any BIOS change but you might want to enter the BIOS, double check it can see the changed drive (from a mecanical drive to the SSD)

Yes you can get an HDMI to Displayport lead or HDMI to DVI-D, either should work the same. DisplayPort to HDMI might also pass audio to the onboard speakers (if there are any) as I believe displayport can pass audio like HDMI whereas DVI-D doesn' (usually)

Mine came with a slightly out of date BIOS so I updated mine, remember doing this can very occasionally brick the motherboard so if possible do on a UPS so no mains interruption can cause an issue. Not sure what the latest BIOS added but I thought I'd do it so if I bricked the thing I'd send back as received faulty, straight out the box


Edited by: "spannerzone" 28th Mar 2016
Gollywood

​Remember those days! Carnage online. Major Dell discount code stacking g … ​Remember those days! Carnage online. Major Dell discount code stacking going on :DSome proper bargains are had!


Aye Indeed, got 2 Dimension 8400's thanks to Mike. Is he still around ?
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