Dell Vostro 3900 desktop is back! i5 4460 3.2GHz, Win7Pro/Win8.1Pro, W10 Pro , 4GB, 500GB HD £274.93 @ Laptops Direct
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Dell Vostro 3900 desktop is back! i5 4460 3.2GHz, Win7Pro/Win8.1Pro, W10 Pro , 4GB, 500GB HD £274.93 @ Laptops Direct

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Found 27th May 2016
Dell Vostro 3900 desktop, Core i5 4460 quadcore 3.2 GHz - 4 GB ram - 500 GB hard drive, intel HD graphics, DVD drive, HDMI and VGA ports. Back down to a sensible price. Win 7Pro / Win 8Pro licence and W10Pro free upgrade and believe it or not, it has PS2 keyboard/mouse ports for older legacy items that businesses may use (KVM etc) Model: 1K6CF - currently £269.98 from Laptops Direct with delivery from £4.95 or local collection.

While this isn't the latest cutting edge i5 CPU, it is a decent performer and sells for £150 on its own. Comes with Windows 7 Pro loaded as downgrade rights option (no install disc provided) - it comes with Win8.1 Pro licence and install DVD (W8.1 Pro allows for downgrade to W7 Pro) and of course free upgrade to Win10 Pro, your choice. £15 buys you another 4GB ram from Crucial memory and it has a couple of PCI/PCI-E slots for upgrades (unlike some lower cost desktops)

I don't think it comes with the 19in1 card reader despite it showing. Supplied with USB Keyboard & wired mouse, W8.1Pro install DVD and utilities DVD and a IEC power lead.
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Yes our trusty desktop the Dell Vostro i5 4460 is back at a decent price again, comes with W7 Pro installed, W8.1Pro on DVD and naturally free upgrade to W10 Pro. Cheap decent performing desktop, bung in a 120GB SSD for £25 and this thing flies.... bung in another 4GB ram from Crucial for around £15.

2% cashback via TCB or Quidco
Edited by: "spannerzone" 27th May 2016
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Lots of discussion on the old deals posted, info on what's inside, how to upgrade to SSD and such like shenanigans... a great performing desktop for those of us that still find desktops a daily necessity!
Previous Deal with lots of info #1
Deal #2
Edited by: "spannerzone" 27th May 2016
Hot from me. Spanner, you're becoming the new "Dell Deals Dude"!
Looks good.
there isnt much capacity in the power supply to use the pci slots without upgrading that, so i wouldn't buy if you plan on adding a graphics card. the hard drive doesn't state if its 5400 RPM or 7,200 RPM. if its 5400 its going to be frustratingly slow. i just dont think your going to be keeping this machine long before wanting to upgrade to something better.
got mine last time round added extra ram a 240gb ssd and an icy box multi card reader that plugs into the rear 3.0usb port which then extends it to the front....boots up in less than 10 seconds now and so quiet ...upgraded to win10 pro too ....excellent
can you put a gpu in e.g gtx 950?

can you put a gpu in e.g gtx 950?


I'm looking at doing the same, The processor is very good for this price.
The power supply is only 300Watt and the GTX 950 requires 350Watt (and a 6pin connector from the PSU which i don't know if it has), it may also be a non-standard PSU to fit the mini case.

Worse case scenario, by a new case for £20 and stick a better Power Supply in for £40-60 and you've got a decent rig on a budget. You'd also get a huge speed boost loading time wise if you splashed out for an SSD too.

there isnt much capacity in the power supply to use the pci slots without … there isnt much capacity in the power supply to use the pci slots without upgrading that, so i wouldn't buy if you plan on adding a graphics card. the hard drive doesn't state if its 5400 RPM or 7,200 RPM. if its 5400 its going to be frustratingly slow. i just dont think your going to be keeping this machine long before wanting to upgrade to something better.



I've added an Asus gtx 950, one of the new 75W PCI powered cards and it works absolutely fine. I'm fact, when gaming it runs perfectly overclocked to 1400MHz processor and 7GHz memory. Delivers over 60 fps in Mad Max at 1080 for instance. That's powering an additional £75 480 GB SSD, £15 4 GB RAM and charging/powering 2 Xbox controllers, Xbox wireless receiver, Bluetooth and wireless mouse dongles.

It might be cheap but my PC is certainly not slow. Upgrade to Windows 10 was quick and free.
Edited by: "musical" 28th May 2016

can you put a gpu in e.g gtx 950?



Yes, see below.

See this deal
Edited by: "musical" 28th May 2016

I'm looking at doing the same, The processor is very good for this … I'm looking at doing the same, The processor is very good for this price.The power supply is only 300Watt and the GTX 950 requires 350Watt (and a 6pin connector from the PSU which i don't know if it has), it may also be a non-standard PSU to fit the mini case.Worse case scenario, by a new case for £20 and stick a better Power Supply in for £40-60 and you've got a decent rig on a budget. You'd also get a huge speed boost loading time wise if you splashed out for an SSD too.



The new Asus 75w card fits easily, is quiet and overclocks to 1400 MHz processor and 7 Ghz memory without any need to upgrade case or PSU.

The new 75W GTX 950 cards do NOT require additional power.
Edited by: "musical" 28th May 2016
You'll have no issues even with a more powerful video card.
Recommended power supplies have nothing to do with how much actual power you use.
CPU TDP - 84 watts, 950 TDP 90 watts, therefore that equates to 174 watts, lets add in another 26 watts for other stuff, so that would equate to 200 watts total system memory. So even a 250 watt power supply would be enough. You may need an adapter for the molex on the power suply to teh video card say a molex to 6 pin or molex to 8 pin. Depends on if they have that on their power supply cables... which they should do....

The new Asus 75w card fits easily, is quiet and overclocks to 1400 MHz … The new Asus 75w card fits easily, is quiet and overclocks to 1400 MHz processor and 7 Ghz memory without any need to upgrade case or PSU.The new 75W GTX 950 cards do NOT require additional power.



Interesting, i didn't know this was thing!
I've voted hot on your deal too
it should be noted that dell's pci express 16 slots may only supply about 25 watts of juice. Normally its about 75 watts.
but I could be talking total nonsense, would have to look at the manual for that. So a quick look at the manual if you're thinking of buying one....

it should be noted that dell's pci express 16 slots may only supply about … it should be noted that dell's pci express 16 slots may only supply about 25 watts of juice. Normally its about 75 watts. but I could be talking total nonsense, would have to look at the manual for that. So a quick look at the manual if you're thinking of buying one....



I am running the latest 75w PCI bus powered GTX 950 overclocked to 1400 MHz processor and 7 Ghz RAM with no power or stability problems at all.
Would recommend the 960 over tee 950 as their pritty much the same price

Also, sorry for confusing matters oO
Anyone know if you can overclock the cpu's on these vostro's, or is the bios still locked on overclocking settings?

Would recommend the 960 over tee 950 as their pritty much the same price … Would recommend the 960 over tee 950 as their pritty much the same price Also, sorry for confusing matters oO



I wouldn't. Lack of PSU capacity, no 6-pin or Molex connectors, 120w power requirement of 960, not tested and 950 GTX overclocked in this PC to give 20% increase in game rate which is 960ish performance.

I'm abroad so can't check but maximum 12v power physically printed on PSU equated to about 212W from what I remember. That gives some headroom for 950 but not 960. I wouldn't put in a 960.
Edited by: "musical" 28th May 2016
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brendanhickey

there isnt much capacity in the power supply to use the pci slots without … there isnt much capacity in the power supply to use the pci slots without upgrading that, so i wouldn't buy if you plan on adding a graphics card. the hard drive doesn't state if its 5400 RPM or 7,200 RPM. if its 5400 its going to be frustratingly slow. i just dont think your going to be keeping this machine long before wanting to upgrade to something better.


Sorry but that's just a lot of ill informed nonsense! X) This will be fine for anyone other than gamers and even then it'll happily take a graphics card that doesn't require additional power connectors as discussed above, it can take a second hard drive and second optical drive (4 sata ports) - the hard drive is a 7200rpm. It will be fine for a typical home or office user and probably be fine for another 5 years minimum.

Consider a Core2duo from 2008 is still a usable desktop, especially if you have an SSD drive in it, it's safe to say this PC will be fine.

Ideally you'd buy this and immedietley install an SSD drive for the OS to get very fast bootup, fast program startup and a really nippy machine. If you use the supplied mechanical hard drive then yes it'll take 60 seconds to boot up, whirr, click, whirr etc

Edited by: "spannerzone" 28th May 2016
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tahir_owen

Anyone know if you can overclock the cpu's on these vostro's, or is the … Anyone know if you can overclock the cpu's on these vostro's, or is the bios still locked on overclocking settings?


No overclocking options in BIOS, Dell like most other prebuilt computers just don't offer those options except perhaps in their Alienware models. If you're into overclocking you really should be building your own or use a more custom build supplier.
what's the point in buying pc (same apply to laptop deals) to upgrade disk, ram, graphic card, power, o/s and overclock it?? why not get better one instead of need to upgrade??

Silly question But once I get it how do I transfer the OS onto an SSD?

Sorry but that's just a lot of ill informed nonsense!X) This will be fine … Sorry but that's just a lot of ill informed nonsense!X) This will be fine for anyone other than gamers and even then it'll happily take a graphics card that doesn't require additional power connectors as discussed above, it can take a second hard drive and second optical drive (4 sata ports) - the hard drive is a 7200rpm. It will be fine for a typical home or office user and probably be fine for another 5 years minimum.Consider a Core2duo from 2008 is still a usable desktop, especially if you have an SSD drive in it, it's safe to say this PC will be fine.Ideally you'd buy this and immedietley install an SSD drive for the OS to get very fast bootup, fast program startup and a really nippy machine. If you use the supplied mechanical hard drive then yes it'll take 60 seconds to boot up, whirr, click, whirr etc

Silly question But once I get it how do I transfer the OS onto an SSD?



You must re-route the MD5# to the mainframe of the database.
Edited by: "Farhan007" 28th May 2016

Sorry but that's just a lot of ill informed nonsense!X) This will be fine … Sorry but that's just a lot of ill informed nonsense!X) This will be fine for anyone other than gamers and even then it'll happily take a graphics card that doesn't require additional power connectors as discussed above, it can take a second hard drive and second optical drive (4 sata ports) - the hard drive is a 7200rpm. It will be fine for a typical home or office user and probably be fine for another 5 years minimum.Consider a Core2duo from 2008 is still a usable desktop, especially if you have an SSD drive in it, it's safe to say this PC will be fine.Ideally you'd buy this and immedietley install an SSD drive for the OS to get very fast bootup, fast program startup and a really nippy machine. If you use the supplied mechanical hard drive then yes it'll take 60 seconds to boot up, whirr, click, whirr etc



i built my brother a gaming pc last October it came to about £530

MSI Z97-G43
GTX 970 strix
i5 4690K
120gb ssd
Western Digital 1TB HD
Vengeance Pro Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 2400Mhz
Antec GX500 Black Mid Tower Gaming Case
Corsair 650 Watt PSU

if you can change the ram and hard drive your've halfway built your own rig anyway, so why not do it from the start and get more value for money. i think the vast majority of people who buy pre built rigs like this will just leave it as it is.
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brendanhickey

i built my brother a gaming pc last October it came to about £530 MSI … i built my brother a gaming pc last October it came to about £530 MSI Z97-G43 GTX 970 strixi5 4690K120gb ssdWestern Digital 1TB HDVengeance Pro Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 2400MhzAntec GX500 Black Mid Tower Gaming CaseCorsair 650 Watt PSUif you can change the ram and hard drive your've halfway built your own rig anyway, so why not do it from the start and get more value for money. i think the vast majority of people who buy pre built rigs like this will just leave it as it is.


I think adding a £30 SSD and £15 ram is hardly being halfway to building your own

I also don't see your Windows OS factored in above.
A simple to carry out update of the above gives a very decent machine, that's probably enough for many people. I certainly don't need any more and I can't be bothered to build my own as I don't game and frankly it's not cost effective. I lost interest in home builds long ago when it became cheaper to buy these Dell's.

Look, I'm not here to tell people what to buy, clearly prebuilds aren't for everyone but if you want a decent, solid and reasonable spec PC for the home or office and want to spend around £300 all in, then this is probably one of the cheapest ways to do it, when you factor in legitimate licenced operating system that costs £120 to buy (I don't think it fair to compare £20 dodgy licence keys from Play Asia/Reddit/Bloke on ebay when comparing computers), an i5 4460 that's about £130, memory and DVD for £30 you've paid the same as this, but you've still got to buy the hard drive, the motherboard, the case, the powersupply etc.


Edited by: "spannerzone" 28th May 2016
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what's the point in buying pc (same apply to laptop deals) to upgrade … what's the point in buying pc (same apply to laptop deals) to upgrade disk, ram, graphic card, power, o/s and overclock it?? why not get better one instead of need to upgrade??


Depends entirely what you want, this forms the basis of an excellent value PC as it is and for very little more money you can add an SSD and maybe a graphics card for casual gaming. For many people that is enough, they don't want to bother building their own.

If you want a flexible powerhouse that can be easily upgraded then no readymade desktop from Dell, HP etc will be worth consideration....clearly you need the right tool for the job.

Personally I've had a couple Dell desktops over the years and found the limited upgradeability to be of no concern. I don't game, I just add memory and hard drives. I've just got rid of an E520 from 2007 that still works well and got £40 on ebay for it.
Edited by: "spannerzone" 28th May 2016
highly recommend this. i got something similar ans just put in gtx 750ti and rocks games 60fps better thn a ps4. for about 300 quid. awesome. and in 4 years i will probbaly do it again witj whatever is out then
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moodhal

Silly question But once I get it how do I transfer the OS onto an SSD?


Do you want to clone the Win7 Pro operating system that comes already installed or would you want to go straight to Win10?

You can fairly easily clone the existing hard drive to a new SSD using Macrium Reflect free software, many guides online for cloning to an SSD. You will need an SSD, an extra SATA cable.

If installing an SSD and you decide to go straight to Win 10Pro (and why not) then no need to install W7 onto the SSD, you can install a new blank SSD, do a Win10 install and it'll 'just work' because the Windows licence key is embedded into the computer BIOS so Win10 reads that info and doesn't need a previous version of Windows to upgrade.
Edited by: "spannerzone" 28th May 2016
Good machine for the price, hot!
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Out of interest, a quick PC parts picker basket comes to £404 for the most basic components to build the same sort of spec PC yourself.
uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/P…gXH

Whenever anyone compares their home builds they nearly always do not factor in the operating system cost and the usual response is that you can get it free or for £15 from dubious sources. If you are comparing like for like you have to factor that cost in unless you're going the linux route or have a transferable Windows retail licence. I know there are workarounds with OEM but again, to compare like for like they should show the real costs. PCPartspicker shows this quite nicely and the clear reality is that you could not buy the same components as this Dell for anywhere near the same price, although I am happy to be corrected if someone can.


Edited by: "spannerzone" 28th May 2016
Worth mentioning that the upcoming 1060 is rumoured to be 75w, and be roughly as powerful as a 970
Thanks. Will be buying one of these. Looking to have a descent desktop and be able to play the growing collection of a Steam games. Mad Max, Sleeping Dogs, Kerbal etc etc. Current desktop is a 2008 or 9 low/mid level Dell so I'm not expecting the earth.

Reading up on this and previous threads (I'm not great with computer tech). I'll be doing the RAM upgrade and maybe a graphics card like the gtx 950. Any better options? Not looking to spend mega money. Had been looking at the Dell outlet Alienware x51 R3 (£522ish - refurb). But I'm now thinking this desktop would be better value.

Any help or suggestions would be welcome.
I used to swear by Dell but over the last few years they have gone down hill massively. The last 5 laptops I bought have all failed for one reason or another. All now working after repair at my cost.

Edit. Dell did pay something towards 2 repairs.
Edited by: "Jefft" 28th May 2016
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robtallica

Thanks. Will be buying one of these. Looking to have a descent desktop … Thanks. Will be buying one of these. Looking to have a descent desktop and be able to play the growing collection of a Steam games. Mad Max, Sleeping Dogs, Kerbal etc etc. Current desktop is a 2008 or 9 low/mid level Dell so I'm not expecting the earth.Reading up on this and previous threads (I'm not great with computer tech). I'll be doing the RAM upgrade and maybe a graphics card like the gtx 950. Any better options? Not looking to spend mega money. Had been looking at the Dell outlet Alienware x51 R3 (£522ish - refurb). But I'm now thinking this desktop would be better value. Any help or suggestions would be welcome.


Well as long as you appreciate the powersupply doesn't have any aux power connectors that most of the higher spec graphics cards need. So, either you can use the existing PSU and get a card like those mentioned earlier otherwise new PSU required.

Adding an SSD is the first thing I'd do to any new computer (or any old one) - they're so cheap and offer the best overall performance boost for the price. Use the supplied hard drive as storage.

The thing to note about these Vostro's is that they're aimed at small business so aren't really designed to be gaming rigs but they can support some ugrades as long as you understand the possible limitations.
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jefft

I used to swear by Dell but over the last few years they have gone down … I used to swear by Dell but over the last few years they have gone down hill massively. The last 5 laptops I bought have all failed for one reason or another. All now working after repair at my cost.Edit. Dell did pay something towards 2 repairs.


That's bad luck indeed.... I don't use laptops but desktop wise I've bought dozens over the last 15 years and can't remember any failing, oh other than a 2007 desktop that had a couple of capacitors bulge 7 years later which I replaced.

Well as long as you appreciate the powersupply doesn't have any aux power … Well as long as you appreciate the powersupply doesn't have any aux power connectors that most of the higher spec graphics cards need. So, either you can use the existing PSU and get a card like those mentioned earlier otherwise new PSU required.Adding an SSD is the first thing I'd do to any new computer (or any old one) - they're so cheap and offer the best overall performance boost for the price. Use the supplied hard drive as storage.The thing to note about these Vostro's is that they're aimed at small business so aren't really designed to be gaming rigs but they can support some ugrades as long as you understand the possible limitations.



Dude, why would you need a new power supply? just get an adapter and stick it onto a molex....then into whatever internal device you need it for.....
or am I missing something?
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tahir_owen

Dude, why would you need a new power supply? just get an adapter and … Dude, why would you need a new power supply? just get an adapter and stick it onto a molex....then into whatever internal device you need it for.....or am I missing something?


Possibly- there's 2 spare SATA power connectors only, one might be used for an SSD that leaves 1 left... can you convert SATA power plug to use on a graphics card?

Possibly- there's 2 spare SATA power connectors only, one might be used … Possibly- there's 2 spare SATA power connectors only, one might be used for an SSD that leaves 1 left... can you convert SATA power plug to use on a graphics card?



yeah you can... right here
amazon.co.uk/Ser…YQG
but seriously, no molex's?.....
Dell power supplies are very efficient though at least
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tahir_owen

yeah you can... right … yeah you can... right herehttps://www.amazon.co.uk/Serial-Molex-Power-Adaptor-Convertor/dp/B000ZMCYQGbut seriously, no molex's?..... Dell power supplies are very efficient though at least


Good to know, thanks.
No molex, they've kept the cost right down buy putting in just enough, it is an office PC primarily after all.
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