Dell Vostro Core i5 4210U, 2GB GeForce GT 740M, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD - Refurb - itcsales - £250.74
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Dell Vostro Core i5 4210U, 2GB GeForce GT 740M, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD - Refurb - itcsales - £250.74

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Found 25th Jul 2015
Good spec for the price, Ok so no SSD, it suggests there is no OS and the RAM is only 4GB. On the other hand you get an SMB Laptop with an i5 and dedicated graphics for less than £250...

Vostro 5470
Intel Core i5-4210U (1.70GHz) 3Mb Cache
4 GB (1x4GB) 1600MHz DDR3
500 GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)
51.2 WHR Battery
Biometric finger print scanner
WiFi (Wireless-N 7260)
Bluetooth
Webcam
2GB Nvidia GeForce GT 740M Graphics
UK Keyboard
14.0" HD Wide Screen LED TrueLife Display (1366x768) 720p
No Operating System

90 Day RTB Warranty
- See more at: itcsales.co.uk/aca…tml

89 Comments

Nice find

Nice find but only 14" voted hot!

I think the only warning here is that it's a Dell, and they tend to throw utter trash inside their machines. Bought a desktop a few years back as a backup PC and was 'interested' to discover the nameless crap they threw in there - also they kindly welded half of it in so you couldn't upgrade it. I assume they just want you to buy the next Dell along the line....?

Elevation

I think the only warning here is that it's a Dell, and they tend to throw … I think the only warning here is that it's a Dell, and they tend to throw utter trash inside their machines. Bought a desktop a few years back as a backup PC and was 'interested' to discover the nameless crap they threw in there - also they kindly welded half of it in so you couldn't upgrade it. I assume they just want you to buy the next Dell along the line....?


must be "inspired" by the other computer company named after fruit

siqass

must be "inspired" by the other computer company named after fruit



​Funny you should say that because it was easier to change the hard drive and optical drive in my macbook pro than it has been in any windows laptop for me. A lot of people seem to hate Apple on this site, especially on threads for low cost phones or laptops but it seems most of the hatred is based on envy/jealousy. Quite sad really.
Good deal though OP. Odd to see dedicated graphics in a laptop using the Intel ULV processors but not a bad idea. Never had a dell though so can't comment on its reliability.

Elevation

I think the only warning here is that it's a Dell, and they tend to throw … I think the only warning here is that it's a Dell, and they tend to throw utter trash inside their machines. Bought a desktop a few years back as a backup PC and was 'interested' to discover the nameless crap they threw in there - also they kindly welded half of it in so you couldn't upgrade it. I assume they just want you to buy the next Dell along the line....?



Bought an XPS l502x in 2011 and I am typing right now on it..

All I have done is upgrade the HDD to a Samsung 830m 256GB and replaced the DVD drive with a 1TB HDD,

But I have yet to find a laptop with a Better 1080p screen than mine, also no processors I have seen can in any meaningful way outperform with my i7 2630QM, I can assure you that my Dell is not full of crap. and I can see myself using this for a another couple of years yet.

leelukehope

​Funny you should say that because it was easier to change the hard drive … ​Funny you should say that because it was easier to change the hard drive and optical drive in my macbook pro than it has been in any windows laptop for me. A lot of people seem to hate Apple on this site, especially on threads for low cost phones or laptops but it seems most of the hatred is based on envy/jealousy. Quite sad really. Good deal though OP. Odd to see dedicated graphics in a laptop using the Intel ULV processors but not a bad idea. Never had a dell though so can't comment on its reliability.



Uh no that is a fanboy comment, what people hate about Apple is how it is a hipsters paradise and overpriced junk for the most part, I went to an apple store to see their prices and their i5 desktop with no graphics card and like 8 gig ram and only 250 gig HARD DRIVE was over £1000.

If I had a choice between a iphone and a android at same price with same spec I might go for Iphone but not when the specs, and performance compared to price is so bad.

ryouga

Uh no that is a fanboy comment, what people hate about Apple is how it is … Uh no that is a fanboy comment, what people hate about Apple is how it is a hipsters paradise and overpriced junk for the most part, I went to an apple store to see their prices and their i5 desktop with no graphics card and like 8 gig ram and only 250 gig HARD DRIVE was over £1000.If I had a choice between a iphone and a android at same price with same spec I might go for Iphone but not when the specs, and performance compared to price is so bad.


Yawn

£250.74 with delivery

Not sure about the envy/jealousy comment, pity/scorn might be closer to the truth. But if you want to buy tech that is overpriced and under resourced carry on, it's your choice. And it gives tech savvy guys a good laugh

haritori

Bought an XPS l502x in 2011 and I am typing right now on it.. All I have … Bought an XPS l502x in 2011 and I am typing right now on it.. All I have done is upgrade the HDD to a Samsung 830m 256GB and replaced the DVD drive with a 1TB HDD, But I have yet to find a laptop with a Better 1080p screen than mine, also no processors I have seen can in any meaningful way outperform with my i7 2630QM, I can assure you that my Dell is not full of crap. and I can see myself using this for a another couple of years yet.



Funny you should say that - the only thing worth bothering to salvage from my Dell was the CPU.

I've got an XPS Desktop from Dell. Never had any issues with it that weren't otherwise my fault. The graphics card (Nvidia) did fail - it overheated. The flat I was living in at the time had no proper air con, so the rooms were incredibly stuffy, I'm pretty sure this was the cause. Since replacing it with ATI, no problems (and moving to a different flat)

Their laptops on the other hand don't seem to last long (judging from gf's laptop), but I'm not sure whether this in a general problem due to natural wear and tear of laptops or whether Dell do indeed make poor ones.

Edited by: "zlain" 26th Jul 2015

zlain

I've got an XPS Desktop from Dell. Never had any issues with it that … I've got an XPS Desktop from Dell. Never had any issues with it that weren't otherwise my fault. The graphics card (Nvidia) did fail - it overheated. The flat I was living in at the time had no proper air con, so the rooms were incredibly stuffy, I'm pretty sure this was the cause. Since replacing it with ATI, no problems (and moving to a different flat)Their laptops on the other hand don't seem to last long (judging from gf's laptop), but I'm not sure whether this in a general problem due to natural wear and tear of laptops or whether Dell do indeed make poor ones.



You can open a window you know? Do you live in the UK? Can't be many flats in the UK that have air conditioning

leelukehope

​Funny you should say that because it was easier to change the hard drive … ​Funny you should say that because it was easier to change the hard drive and optical drive in my macbook pro than it has been in any windows laptop for me. A lot of people seem to hate Apple on this site, especially on threads for low cost phones or laptops but it seems most of the hatred is based on envy/jealousy. Quite sad really. Good deal though OP. Odd to see dedicated graphics in a laptop using the Intel ULV processors but not a bad idea. Never had a dell though so can't comment on its reliability.



Only the case if you have a Macbook Pro that's ancient. If you have difficulty changing the hard drive on any laptop you should have someone competent do it for you.

nnenne

Yawn



But true nonetheless.

haritori

Bought an XPS l502x in 2011 and I am typing right now on it.. All I have … Bought an XPS l502x in 2011 and I am typing right now on it.. All I have done is upgrade the HDD to a Samsung 830m 256GB and replaced the DVD drive with a 1TB HDD, But I have yet to find a laptop with a Better 1080p screen than mine, also no processors I have seen can in any meaningful way outperform with my i7 2630QM, I can assure you that my Dell is not full of crap. and I can see myself using this for a another couple of years yet.




to be honest only just sold my xps,possibly the best machine I have ever or will ever use, safe to say they aren't all that good!

Re Dell reliability, I'm running a 5-ish year old xps-15 that I got from the Dell Outlet. The only problem I've ever had with it was a slightly erratic WiFi card and Dell sent out a new one in the post and phoned to talk me through the installation procedure. I feel I should upgrade but I'm struggling to let this one go! Never had a problem with laptops or desktops from Dell and I've been using them at home and work for a lot of years.

Good find op. I pesonally like Dell and the customer care they offer. Recently had to contact them due to someone where i work lost the recovery disks and the hard drive had failed - 3 years old only but they dropped the laptop! They sent new disks out free of charge and after i replaced the hdd, (had spare one) fairly easy all works well. Heat added.

People slagging off dell kit... If you buy their consumer level stuff, it's cheap for a reason. It's cheap.

But their corporate grade stuff is good, repairable and well made. Buy cheap Dell kit, and get a cheap computer, built to a price. Buy quality dell kit and you get a quality computer.
Utterly stupid to compare a cheapy 300 quid Dell machone to Apple kit. Compare like with like.

90 Day RTB Warranty and no item condition?
Looks a good deal apart from the above.
Edited by: "andy5and" 26th Jul 2015

Elevation

Funny you should say that - the only thing worth bothering to salvage … Funny you should say that - the only thing worth bothering to salvage from my Dell was the CPU.



Thought it was all 'welded' in...

Dell are totally fine, far less proprietory than HP (arguably their nearest competitor) and better options from the start, especially in the laptops.

Original Poster

interesting to read all the comments and great to see people think it is hot! Personally I tend to buy Lenovo kit for work these days so can't really comment on how good or bad the Vostro range are build quality wise. I just wonder why it comes with no OS?

cpubenchmark.net/cpu…GHz this is the bench mark of the dell cpu (benchmark 3391)

cpubenchmark.net/cpu…442 this is the benchmark of a fujitsu laptop on an Amazonwarehouse deal:

amazon.co.uk/Fuj…top (bench mark 3242)

The Amazon i3 has almost as much power as the i5 Dell, has Windows 8 and is backed by Amazon so no hassle here with returns etc and they do tend to refund even after the 30 days returns period when faulty. Unless better graphics processor really that important in a laptop go with the fugi.

DevilD

Not sure about the envy/jealousy comment, pity/scorn might be closer to … Not sure about the envy/jealousy comment, pity/scorn might be closer to the truth. But if you want to buy tech that is overpriced and under resourced carry on, it's your choice. And it gives tech savvy guys a good laugh



right on!

What windows is on this?

westywales

What windows is on this?


None and i was just searching for the cost of adding windows.

ontheqt

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-4210U+%40+1.70GHz … https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-4210U+%40+1.70GHz this is the bench mark of the dell cpu (benchmark 3391)http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-3120M+%40+2.50GHz&id=1442 this is the benchmark of a fujitsu laptop on an Amazonwarehouse deal:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fujitsu-LIFEBOOK-i3-3120M-Processor-Bluetooth/dp/B00BQ9HY8U/ref=sr_1_1?m=A2OAJ7377F756P&s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1437898758&sr=1-1&keywords=fujitsu+laptop (bench mark 3242)The Amazon i3 has almost as much power as the i5 Dell, has Windows 8 and is backed by Amazon so no hassle here with returns etc and they do tend to refund even after the 30 days returns period when faulty. Unless better graphics processor really that important in a laptop go with the fugi.



I think you're missing one of the key things here. This laptop has dedicated Nvidia graphics, which is almost unheard of in this price range.

The laptop you have linked to is a old model, having a 3rd gen CPU will kill the battery life. If it was between the two, I'd pick the Dell every time.

Shame not 1080

Bit the bullet and bought one. Now to source an SSD. Pity looks like the ram only has one slot so will lose the 4GB if replacing with 8GB

Now sold out guys

Great price for the specs......have bought dozens of Dell products over the years and never so far had any failures at all,

heat added and just bought one thanks exactly what i was looking for as i am making a golf sim for home and need a laptop with a dedicated graphics card and a decent processor, this comes with 1 x 4 gb of mem does anybody known if you can another 4gb stick? when i bought there was 2 left in stock so im guesssing there is now only 1 left so be quick

leelukehope

​Funny you should say that because it was easier to change the hard drive … ​Funny you should say that because it was easier to change the hard drive and optical drive in my macbook pro than it has been in any windows laptop for me. A lot of people seem to hate Apple on this site, especially on threads for low cost phones or laptops but it seems most of the hatred is based on envy/jealousy. Quite sad really. Good deal though OP. Odd to see dedicated graphics in a laptop using the Intel ULV processors but not a bad idea. Never had a dell though so can't comment on its reliability.



From about 2006-2012 at least you have to pull off the entire underside of the macbook, after unscrewing about a dozen tiny screws? If you found that easier than a PC then you've obviously only tried it on cheap PC's - y'know, the kind that cost 1/5th the equivalent mac, instead of 1/3rd.

Try a thinkpad. 1 screw, 1 minute on most of them (x2xx, x6x, t6x, t4xx at least). Hell, even consumer laptops I can't remember the last time it wasn't at the very least just a single hatch with 1 or 2 screws on the underside... oh wait yes I can, HP 255 G3, had to pull off the top plate, keyboard and all. But it was a £170 laptop.

I'm typing on an XPS M1330 from 2008 and it's still going strong, the only thing I have changed is the HDD to an SSD and I had to replace the keyboard because I had wiped off some of the keys from over-use. Oh and i've gone through 3 batteries, i've never paid more than £12 for a battery.

It runs Windows 10 just fine and i'll probably get 10 years out of it!

When looking at CPU benchmarks, pay special attention to single-thread speeds. This will denote how fast the interface "feels", a 4-core and 2-core machine with the same overall benchmark will perform very differently. 4-cores can do more at once but a 2-core with the same overall score will feel faster until you bog down the CPU.
Edited by: "Hunta2097" 26th Jul 2015

I own a dell Vostro 1700 from 2007 and its only now startin to get a bit slow! The wireless went about 6 months ago and thats the only issue ive had... I use my laptop ~4-6hrs a day too!

I'd like to throw in some genuine experience from someone who has bought 3 Factory Outlet Dell Laptops.

The first one was a Precision M70 in about 2005/06, those are the workstation level ones. It was very high quality at the time, 1920x1200 screen, Dedicated Nvidia Quadro 1400 (which was the diamond in the rough, basically an Nvidia 6800 underclocked). That thing lasted me years of very intense use, it was my only computer and I played games on it when I got home from work from 6 till 11pm every night for years. I bought another processor and ended up overclocking it as well as pushing the graphics card a bit, which eventually (after a couple of years) led to graphics card failure. The machine is still working though, because it was a separate part, so I just bought one of the Ati X600 from ebay years later and repaired the old girl. Absolute tank of a laptop.

My second one was a Dell XPS m1530 in 2008 ish with a 1440x900 screen, Nvidia 8600GT and a Core2Duo. I was never so glad of the warranty on that sucker, it KILLED hard drives. I was sure it was heat that accumulated in the hard drive bay, but whatever it was it killed 3 in one year. They just developed ticks of death, switching between Seagate and Hitachi (yuk). It lasted long enough for me to move on to a desktop after only about 18 months of use. Since the proliferation of SSDs, I've since put a 256gb SSD in it which isn't susceptible to that failure, but the CPU was damaged (by er, overclocking) at one point and so now the laptop does run a bit hot. It's not in use.

My Third one was an Inspiron 15r with a first gen i5 and Radeon mobile graphics and a **** 1366x768 screen. I've had no problems with it since 2012 when it was bought (Admittedly it had almost no use it's first year, and very minimal since then since I have my desktop), but it runs hot doing tasks (Netflix could cook eggs) and even when sitting idle at the desktop the fan will kick up to speed for about 10 seconds then off for 30, and this continual on off is just so annoying, many complained about it at the time. It also just "feels" slow whenever I'm doing stuff, the Precision and XPS always felt like Desktop competitors at their time, but the Inspiron feels sluggish in every way.

Basically I started with their top of the line Precision series, and steadily worked my way down to their basic Inspiron. The XPS was unreliable, and the Inspiron (although without problems) is just a poor design and uninspiring (pun) to use. Their Precision laptop back in 2005 was a **** tank, I loved it, I had it to bits so many times tinkering (not fixing), upgrading ram, changing the processor for one I could overclock. I really loved it, and I killed it and brought it back to life.

So my Dells are a mixed bag, but really I feel like their design has gone to pot in the last few years, you really get what you pay for, and with this one being 90 day RTB, I wouldn't touch it with anything less than 1 year's assurance.

andy5and

None and i was just searching for the cost of adding windows.


Ah right thought so, cheers

leelukehope

​Funny you should say that because it was easier to change the hard drive … ​Funny you should say that because it was easier to change the hard drive and optical drive in my macbook pro than it has been in any windows laptop for me. A lot of people seem to hate Apple on this site, especially on threads for low cost phones or laptops but it seems most of the hatred is based on envy/jealousy. Quite sad really. Good deal though OP. Odd to see dedicated graphics in a laptop using the Intel ULV processors but not a bad idea. Never had a dell though so can't comment on its reliability.[/quoteUh no that is a fanboy comment, what people hate about Apple is how it is a hipsters paradise and overpriced junk for the most part, I went to an apple store to see their prices and their i5 desktop with no graphics card and like 8 gig ram and only 250 gig HARD DRIVE was over £1000.If I had a choice between a iphone and a android at same price with same spec I might go for Iphone but not when the specs, and performance compared to price is so bad.


No one is jealous of the fact that you overpay for the specs mate. However that aside the lack of future proofing is why I dislike them. A windows (or Linux as I peffer) system you can swap out all of the parts, apple doesn't let you do this just becose they want you to buy the newest model.

Elevation

I think the only warning here is that it's a Dell, and they tend to throw … I think the only warning here is that it's a Dell, and they tend to throw utter trash inside their machines. Bought a desktop a few years back as a backup PC and was 'interested' to discover the nameless crap they threw in there - also they kindly welded half of it in so you couldn't upgrade it. I assume they just want you to buy the next Dell along the line....?



Phew, I'm glad those over 350 desktops, 40-something laptops and cople of dozen physical servers from Dell I manage don't know that.

Bought one earlier. Only thing I'm iffy about is the resolution, but seems great for the price and I can hook it up to a monitor if I really need to go to 1080 for stuff. Hopefully it will handle most games I throw at it at 720p. Should be alright for This War of Mine, right?
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