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Dell Vostro Desktop 200 Computer £163.33 -- Intel E2180, 1GB Ram, 80GB Hard Drive, <<VISTA HOME PREMIUM>>
Dell Vostro Desktop 200 Computer £163.33 -- Intel E2180, 1GB Ram, 80GB Hard Drive, <<VISTA HOME PREMIUM>>

Dell Vostro Desktop 200 Computer £163.33 -- Intel E2180, 1GB Ram, 80GB Hard Drive, <<VISTA HOME PREMIUM>>

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I saw this on the Dell Small Business Site and thought that, even though its not the best specification, it is VERY good value for money. In most places you would never find a computer this cheap with a feature-packed Windows operating system. VERY good deal.

22Sept: Link fixed to point to the deal on Dell Small business site. MikeT

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I dont get this, whats the point of putting home premium on a system that will generally struggle to run on it? If it came with XP pro then id vote hot, because its vista home premium on a system that would barely run Home basic its cold for me....sorry alex.walker3

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because as it is a cheap system, spend £30 on good ddr2 800mhz ram and its tons better

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I can't see the problem harlzter, ive seen places sell systems with 512mb and vista for that price. come on man, think before you say stuff like that...

The link is just opening on a general page for me, but even assuming the price you quote is VAT inclusive and delivered, and therefore undoubtedly cheap, I would be inclined to suggest potential buyers spend a bit more, & get something a bit more up to the minute. For anything more than a bit of web browsing and word processing you will soon get a bit tired of the performance, and will be happiest with the Vista visual features turned off!

Dell deals come along all the time on here, if this level is all a buyer can afford, then unless you have no machine to use at all, hang on a bit, save the pennies for something better as you will soon run out of HD space (the included drive is bound to be a slow low cache unit anyway) and need more, and you need more RAM now! Usually purchasers of very basic machines are not the types who are going to be happy doing such things, even though it is a simple enough thing to do.

I won't vote cold, because this could be a usable machine in the right situation, just as long as potential buyers don't think it is going to be cutting edge, and whilst cheap, is not necessarily best value! ;-)

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yazock1;2877885

I can't see the problem harlzter, ive seen places sell systems with 512mb … I can't see the problem harlzter, ive seen places sell systems with 512mb and vista for that price.



... and end up with punters who are not exactly going to be thrilled too :-(

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yazock1;2877885

I can't see the problem harlzter, ive seen places sell systems with 512mb … I can't see the problem harlzter, ive seen places sell systems with 512mb and vista for that price. come on man, think before you say stuff like that...


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Exactly underpowered pc's with home premium on, out of the box without any upgrades and "not fit for the purpose for which its intended" springs to mind, after all certain features dont function so whats the point?:thinking:

Vista for that price is useless due to the spec, a shop bought rig should be able to run fully all its features without upgrading parts.

Its like buying a ferrari with a 1.1 micra engine, if you want to drive the car as its intended sir may we recommend you upgrade the engine to a 4 litre V8 otherwise it may keep on stalling:thumbsup:


Some people just see the words "Vista Premium" and think great that must be a good PC

Now the link is correct, I also see the DVD drive is not a Rewriter, it is read only and I would think most people would be wise to add on the 13.50 plus vat for that so they can at least write back-up DVDs or CDs! (ALWAYS, always backup your data!)

I tried adding some RAM and the 160Gb HD to it on the site, but then it starts being a bit expensive for what it is, so I would stand very much by my original comments

Non techie question here - what's the minimum spec to run Vista Premium effectively then? Is it the processor speed, the RAM or a combo of both?

cpandk;2878480

Non techie question here - what's the minimum spec to run Vista Premium … Non techie question here - what's the minimum spec to run Vista Premium effectively then? Is it the processor speed, the RAM or a combo of both?



It's not the Operating system that just comes into the equation, it's what you want to DO with the PC too. Vista will run fine on 1Gb of ram in this situation, but when you come to doing demanding stuff, it is going to look like something you would have got rid of in 1995 :-(

A minimum to run Vista effectively will not necessarily mean you can do Ray tracing, play games and encode video conveniently! More a case of deciding what you want a PC for, then see what will perform right, and then find what you can get to fit the need for the least amount of pennies, and that is not necessarily going to be "cheap" but it might be the best "value"

Just yesterday I was in contact with someone who was miffed when one of these small Webbook things with Atom Processor and 1Gb of ram was hopeless running Sibelius 5 music composition software - He had bought the machine, then thought afterwards about what it would have to do, then defends it by calling the software bloated, just because it would run an OLD version. In reality it is the performance of the machine that is like an OLD machine, just so happens it is very small! They are great, but the spec is not exactly leading edge.

cpandk;2878480

Non techie question here - what's the minimum spec to run Vista Premium … Non techie question here - what's the minimum spec to run Vista Premium effectively then? Is it the processor speed, the RAM or a combo of both?



I built myself a PC a few months ago and fitted an E2180 CPU (same as this Dell) and 2Gb of Ram and a fairly cheap X1650 graphics card and it runs Vista fine (not for games or anything, just basic family use).

So this Dell PC has a CPU that is fine for Vista but probably needs an extra 1gb of Ram.

The Vista Aero interface (which is optional) may not run with the graphics in this Dell (I am not saying it wont, it just may not)

guilbert53;2878905

I built myself a PC a few months ago and fitted an E2180 CPU (same as … I built myself a PC a few months ago and fitted an E2180 CPU (same as this Dell) and 2Gb of Ram and a fairly cheap X1650 graphics card and it runs Vista fine (not for games or anything, just basic family use).So this Dell PC has a CPU that is fine for Vista but probably needs an extra 1gb of Ram.The Vista Aero interface (which is optional) may not run with the graphics in this Dell (I am not saying it wont, it just may not)



Thanks for the response - so if I wanted Vista premium and wanted to say surf the net, whilst listening to music and maybe having a few windows open to do some word/excel stuff etc (no games) then you would recommend a 2ghz processor + 2 GB Ram minimum - correct??

If anyone else has any handy hints please use plain english, I hate all this techie stuff - not for HUKD me thinks! ;-)

cpandk;2878984

Thanks for the response - so if I wanted Vista premium and wanted to say … Thanks for the response - so if I wanted Vista premium and wanted to say surf the net, whilst listening to music and maybe having a few windows open to do some word/excel stuff etc (no games) then you would recommend a 2ghz processor + 2 GB Ram minimum - correct??



Yes, the Dell PC above, with an extra 1Gb of memory, would allow you do all that.

The fancy Vista user interface, called Aero, does require fairly powerful graphics, so this Dell may not be capable of that, or it may be slow.

But you can turn Aero off, and it will run fine, it will just look more like XP does, which is no bad thing.

cpandk;2878984

Thanks for the response - so if I wanted Vista premium and wanted to say … Thanks for the response - so if I wanted Vista premium and wanted to say surf the net, whilst listening to music and maybe having a few windows open to do some word/excel stuff etc (no games) then you would recommend a 2ghz processor + 2 GB Ram minimum - correct??If anyone else has any handy hints please use plain english, I hate all this techie stuff - not for HUKD me thinks! ;-)


If when you say 2ghz processor you mean a dual core one running at 2ghz on each core than that would be fine, 2 gig of ram would be what i'd use as a minimum and some sort of cheap graphics card as well (minimum on that would be 256mb ram preferably 512mb) this would then free up the ram in the system to be able to do more tasks and run more smoothly, if you go by microsofts minimum requirements then you will have a "working" system it will just be very slow when trying to do anything other than surfing and office tasks, even watching youtube will drain all resources.

plenty of laptops with this spec running vist home premium inc the one i am using now could do with bit more memory maybe but runs ok on my laptop.Its the 32bit version with this dell pc a lot of people put 4 meg or more for vista ultimate32bit the stick a 512+mb graphics card in and end up with only about 3 meg or less wasting money ?.I have found 1 meg runs vista 32bit ok 2 meg if you want ultimate with all functions enabled unless your running 64 bit version voted hot

andy math;2879284

plenty of laptops with this spec running vist home premium inc the one i … plenty of laptops with this spec running vist home premium inc the one i am using now could do with bit more memory maybe but runs ok on my laptop.Its the 32bit version with this dell pc a lot of people put 4 meg or more for vista ultimate32bit the stick a 512+mb graphics card in and end up with only about 3 meg or less wasting money ?.I have found 1 meg runs vista 32bit ok 2 meg if you want ultimate with all functions enabled unless your running 64 bit version voted hot


You say its running ok, but what happens when you have a browser open, a word document and then go to edit a photo?
Ive got a similar specced laptop but with 3 gig of ram and it came with home basic and even that crawled to a halt when doing two or three things at a time, Ive since installed XP pro getting a more reliable laptop and a slight increase on battery life in the meantime.

harlzter;2879636

You say its running ok, but what happens when you have a browser open, a … You say its running ok, but what happens when you have a browser open, a word document and then go to edit a photo?Ive got a similar specced laptop but with 3 gig of ram and it came with home basic and even that crawled to a halt when doing two or three things at a time, Ive since installed XP pro getting a more reliable laptop and a slight increase on battery life in the meantime.


mine ok with word doc open and browser open even have youtube video running you must have a lot of processes running on your pc maybe you got a virus I have got word open youtube video running ok still only use 52% mem and browser window with hot deals on it 1gig laptop with semperon cpu .I find you can end up with loads of power hungrey processes running with out knowing it maybe thats whats up with your computer?no good feeding them with loads of memory lol maybe vista needs sorting on your pc ?

andy math;2880301

mine ok with word doc open and browser open even have youtube video … mine ok with word doc open and browser open even have youtube video running you must have processes running on your pc maybe you got a virus I have got word open youtube video running ok still only use 52% mem and and browser window with hot deals on it 1gig laptop with semperon cpu .I find you can end up with loads of pwer hungrey processes running with out knowing it maybe thats whats up with your computer?no good feeding them with loads of memory lol


This was from the off before id even connected it to the net, so definitely no viruses. Im happy with xp with all unneeded background services turned off and the startup menu trimmed to basics that are needed for fast booting, it runs like a dream now:thumbsup:

harlzter;2877824

I dont get this, whats the point of putting home premium on a system that … I dont get this, whats the point of putting home premium on a system that will generally struggle to run on it?


My system is an E2180 with an extra 1Gb of RAM, runs Vista HP like an express train. Bearing in mind the OS will cost £60 and the CPU over £40 you're getting a fair bit for the other £60. An ideal basis for office work, browsing and email. :thumbsup:

The only thing that I want to know is why the OP was banned?
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nihcaj;2878040

Now the link is correct, I also see the DVD drive is not a Rewriter, it … Now the link is correct, I also see the DVD drive is not a Rewriter, it is read only and I would think most people would be wise to add on the 13.50 plus vat for that so they can at least write back-up DVDs or CDs! (ALWAYS, always backup your data!)I tried adding some RAM and the 160Gb HD to it on the site, but then it starts being a bit expensive for what it is, so I would stand very much by my original comments


another £35 gets you the same machine but with 2GB RAM, 250GB HDD, and a DVD writer.
configure.euro.dell.com/del…757

Why does the link take you to tradedoubler.com and not the dell website? Could that be why they are banned? Peer guardian blocks the site anyway

gcmarcal;2882051

The only thing that I want to know is why the OP was banned?:whistling:



I think you will find he is schizophrenic!:whistling:

Just wipe vista and install ubuntu, jobs a good un

Hey guys my HDD fried last nt Can anyone recommend a good (but also the cheapest poss) PC or Laptop? (I'm hoping to pay around 200 for a pc or 300 for a laptop)

Thnx xxxx

ftpdoo;2882635

Hey guys my HDD fried last nt Can anyone recommend a good (but also … Hey guys my HDD fried last nt Can anyone recommend a good (but also the cheapest poss) PC or Laptop? (I'm hoping to pay around 200 for a pc or 300 for a laptop)Thnx xxxx



Why don't you just replace the HDD this would be cheaper than getting a new PC ?

This PC has too little memory (really should have 2GB at least) and you really should expect a DVD/RW these days. There have been better Dell machines in the past few weeks, so worthwhile waiting for a better spec to appear for a few quid more.
BTW - I have 2 Vista machines and 3 XP machines, and in terms of user interface I can hardly tell them apart. I know that if I press Alt-Tab on the Vista machine I get a pretty little set of icons showing me my open windows, but other than that Vista (Home Premium) doesn't seem to offer me much at all that isn't available in XP. Seems to be a bit of software that was written by memory manufacturers.

GAVINLEWISHUKD;2882097

I think you will find he is schizophrenic!:whistling:



That's a bit of an horrendous thing to be saying about someone who can not defend himself due to being banned.

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nihcaj;2882797

That's a bit of an horrendous thing to be saying about someone who can … That's a bit of an horrendous thing to be saying about someone who can not defend himself due to being banned.ReportedIgnore listed


don't be so hard on people. he wuz just kidding

nihcaj;2882797

That's a bit of an horrendous thing to be saying about someone who can … That's a bit of an horrendous thing to be saying about someone who can not defend himself due to being banned.ReportedIgnore listed



What he means is that the op probably had multiple id's on here, im guessing alexwalker3 and yazock1 where/are one and the same, could have maybe phrased it better but no real harm done, I dont think he meant it in a nasty way.

If you think its underpowered for vista - why not put Ubuntu Linux on it, for free.
This is a super cheap system that if you know what you are doing will run as a family desktop for years. Those that vote this cold are too butt lazy to make full use of such a cheap system.

ice.

great value for money.Hot

alchemistkevin;2882855

don't be so hard on people. he wuz just kidding



Bit of a tactless way of saying it then, the real insults fly around here like moths, so it is easy to get a bit paranoid about it :-(

nihcaj;2882926

Bit of a tactless way of saying it then, the real insults fly around here … Bit of a tactless way of saying it then, the real insults fly around here like moths, so it is easy to get a bit paranoid about it :-(



I agree it was a bit tactless but I saw what he meant by it so it didnt bother me, or myself:thumbsup:

slinkydonkey;2882724

Why don't you just replace the HDD this would be cheaper than getting a … Why don't you just replace the HDD this would be cheaper than getting a new PC ?



I would replace the HDD but its an old PC that i was thinking of upgrading anyway... This has just forced my hand..

So if anyone knows of any great dell laptops or base units out there please do let me know xxxxxxxx

ftpdoo;2883057

I would replace the HDD but its an old PC that i was thinking of … I would replace the HDD but its an old PC that i was thinking of upgrading anyway... This has just forced my hand..So if anyone knows of any great dell laptops or base units out there please do let me know xxxxxxxx



What would you be using it for? This will help decide the specs you need for it, would it be mainly browsing t'internet, office documents and a bit of photo editing, or would you be wanting it for a media centre (watching dvd's, storing all your music on etc) or even gaming, (if so what games).

harlzter;2883085

What would you be using it for? This will help decide the specs you need … What would you be using it for? This will help decide the specs you need for it, would it be mainly browsing t'internet, office documents and a bit of photo editing, or would you be wanting it for a media centre (watching dvd's, storing all your music on etc) or even gaming, (if so what games).



I'd like to use it for surfing / iTunes and doing some photoshop work. I have a screen at home so i was thinking i could hook up my laptop to the monitor to do the photoshop stuff Are there many good dell deals on laptops
Thankx xxxxxxxxxx

ftpdoo;2883469

I'd like to use it for surfing / iTunes and doing some photoshop work. I … I'd like to use it for surfing / iTunes and doing some photoshop work. I have a screen at home so i was thinking i could hook up my laptop to the monitor to do the photoshop stuff Are there many good dell deals on laptops Thankx xxxxxxxxxx


My laptop was around £305 earlier this year with extended battery 2 gig ram 160gb hard drive dual core and handles photoshop nicely, so no doubt similar deals are if anything even cheaper, keep your eye on MikeT's posts he's they guy to watch for Dell deals:thumbsup:

harlzter;2883572

My laptop was around £305 earlier this year with extended battery 2 gig … My laptop was around £305 earlier this year with extended battery 2 gig ram 160gb hard drive dual core and handles photoshop nicely, so no doubt similar deals are if anything even cheaper, keep your eye on MikeT's posts he's they guy to watch for Dell deals:thumbsup:



hehe cool - thankx for the tip! :roll: Happy Wednesday xxxxx
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