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De'longhi ESAM 4200 Bean to cup coffee Machine @ Amazon - £209.99
De'longhi ESAM 4200 Bean to cup coffee Machine @ Amazon - £209.99

De'longhi ESAM 4200 Bean to cup coffee Machine @ Amazon - £209.99

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Slightly miffed. Bought this last week for £239.

Makes great coffee though. Highly recommended at this price.

Yep, brilliant machine.

great machine, couldn't do without mine.

Vegas.Bandit

Slightly miffed. Bought this last week for £239.Makes great coffee … Slightly miffed. Bought this last week for £239.Makes great coffee though. Highly recommended at this price.


If it's from Amazon contact them via live chat, not done it recently but, they will sometimes refund the difference if the price change was within the a week or so.

Had mine for 18 months - absolutely love it. Great price - heat added.

Ive been using an aeropress lately with a cheap grinder to grind my own beans, not into frothy coffees etc so I dont think I would get the full use out of it

Heat for the price though

joedastudd

If it's from Amazon contact them via live chat, not done it recently but, … If it's from Amazon contact them via live chat, not done it recently but, they will sometimes refund the difference if the price change was within the a week or so.



​I got £64 back when the melitta machine I bought through Amazon dropped in price after 2 weeks. go for it. added heat.

I've had this machine about 2 month now, trial and error to get your preference just right. but when you do it is amazing!

A bag of Costa beans is 12.99 on eBay (Someone twocking them from work) they taste nice. Last few weeks I've been using a bag of PACT coffee been and they are by far superior but £££.

small3y

I've had this machine about 2 month now, trial and error to get your … I've had this machine about 2 month now, trial and error to get your preference just right. but when you do it is amazing!A bag of Costa beans is 12.99 on eBay (Someone twocking them from work) they taste nice. Last few weeks I've been using a bag of PACT coffee been and they are by far superior but £££.



I would say Rave are better than Pact - cheaper per bag at Rave and 20% off your first order but need to pay postage if order value below £25 after discounts. Link to sign up at bottom of the homescreen.

Find a local roaster so much better and fresher, great machine.

I have a De'longhi (not the bean to cup but the automatic cappuccino one) and it makes great coffee. Would highly recommend them as a manufacturer. I use it at least 2-3 times a day with no issues. My auto-grinder is also a De'longhi which compliments my machine well and does a decent grind.

Once you get one of these you'll wonder how you lived without it.

been thinking about buying this you've just made my mind up.
thanks

small3y

I've had this machine about 2 month now, trial and error to get your … I've had this machine about 2 month now, trial and error to get your preference just right. but when you do it is amazing!A bag of Costa beans is 12.99 on eBay (Someone twocking them from work) they taste nice. Last few weeks I've been using a bag of PACT coffee been and they are by far superior but £££.


Try looking for Rave coffee beans. Sure you will enjoy them if you like pact.

Bought mine used for £50 about three years ago. Used daily, and still going strong. Terrific machine, simple to use, and no digital nonsense!

Yep I'd echo everyone else, I've had one of these for two years now - great machine, but to anyone who's not had one before - it's bigger than you think!

Thanks OP.

I cracked open the piggy bank recently and had £223 in there and have wanted one of these for ages.
This is perfect!

these are brilliant unstoppable machines...........

Great machine. Had mine for two years and very happy. Bit noisy but I can live with that.

Had this for about two years now - making 2 - 4 cups a day. Can't fault it. Details on how to service it on youtube. Loads of great coffee about - try Monmouth, Union, Ozone, Square Mile, Pact etc. Favorite is Notes Coffee. Expensive but worth it IMO

My Delonghi Magnifica is still going strong after 10 years, these are great machines! Good post OP

brought my dad one of these machines for his birthday about a month ago for quite a bit more so this is a great deal, makes fantastic coffee, highly recommended

Cheers OP - ordered

is everyone here retired?

Wondering does it make espresso only, do you manually add hot water to make amrericano?

Hey everyone - I've been planning to buy the De'longhi Dedica at £150 from John Lewis, and then saw this on Amazon and figured for the extra £60 it was probably worth the upgrade. But after reading a lot of coffee forums since then (site-note: I didn't realise there was such a community of coffee lovers/obsessers!), now I have doubts about which is "best".

General consensus is that bean-to-cup (B2C) machines are more convenient, but only produce good coffee vs. the exceptional coffee (potentially) you can get from a manual espresso machine (providing you've mastered the learning curve).

Does anyone have a view on this? I get the impression that when comparing B2C with espresso machines, they're comparing machines at a much higher price point - I'm not sure if it'd make much difference at £150-£200. I'm also wondering whether the espresso enthusiasts are, possibly, overstating the difference between the two machine types.

Any advice greatly appreciated!!

lianghe1984

Wondering does it make espresso only, do you manually add hot water to … Wondering does it make espresso only, do you manually add hot water to make amrericano?


Yes, from the steam wand (without turning on steam mode) or from a kettle if you want it hotter.

lianghe1984

Wondering does it make espresso only, do you manually add hot water to … Wondering does it make espresso only, do you manually add hot water to make amrericano?


I make an espresso and top up with water from the kettle for americano

WilliamForty

Hey everyone - I've been planning to buy the De'longhi Dedica at £150 … Hey everyone - I've been planning to buy the De'longhi Dedica at £150 from John Lewis, and then saw this on Amazon and figured for the extra £60 it was probably worth the upgrade. But after reading a lot of coffee forums since then (site-note: I didn't realise there was such a community of coffee lovers/obsessers!), now I have doubts about which is "best".General consensus is that bean-to-cup (B2C) machines are more convenient, but only produce good coffee vs. the exceptional coffee (potentially) you can get from a manual espresso machine (providing you've mastered the learning curve).Does anyone have a view on this? I get the impression that when comparing B2C with espresso machines, they're comparing machines at a much higher price point - I'm not sure if it'd make much difference at £150-£200. I'm also wondering whether the espresso enthusiasts are, possibly, overstating the difference between the two machine types.Any advice greatly appreciated!!



These B2C machines are very good. If you want the very best then go manual - it's a lot more effort but the result is a better cup of coffee - The convenience far outweighs the small improvement in taste for me. That and I have an award winning barista outside my office

Great price!

WilliamForty

Hey everyone - I've been planning to buy the De'longhi Dedica at £150 … Hey everyone - I've been planning to buy the De'longhi Dedica at £150 from John Lewis, and then saw this on Amazon and figured for the extra £60 it was probably worth the upgrade. But after reading a lot of coffee forums since then (site-note: I didn't realise there was such a community of coffee lovers/obsessers!), now I have doubts about which is "best".General consensus is that bean-to-cup (B2C) machines are more convenient, but only produce good coffee vs. the exceptional coffee (potentially) you can get from a manual espresso machine (providing you've mastered the learning curve).Does anyone have a view on this? I get the impression that when comparing B2C with espresso machines, they're comparing machines at a much higher price point - I'm not sure if it'd make much difference at £150-£200. I'm also wondering whether the espresso enthusiasts are, possibly, overstating the difference between the two machine types.Any advice greatly appreciated!!



I imagine the law of diminishing returns on your investment will come into play here - you will be able to get somewhat subjectively better coffee than this machine produces, but:

a) how much more money will the machine/coffee cost
b) how much more time will it take to operate/maintain
c) how much are you likely to notice the potentially 'marginal' gains

You need to work out if it's worth it to you.

FYI (and please don't judge 8)) I'm quite happy (for the moment) with Nescafe Azera for reasons a-c above.

WilliamForty

Hey everyone - I've been planning to buy the De'longhi Dedica at £150 … Hey everyone - I've been planning to buy the De'longhi Dedica at £150 from John Lewis, and then saw this on Amazon and figured for the extra £60 it was probably worth the upgrade. But after reading a lot of coffee forums since then (site-note: I didn't realise there was such a community of coffee lovers/obsessers!), now I have doubts about which is "best".General consensus is that bean-to-cup (B2C) machines are more convenient, but only produce good coffee vs. the exceptional coffee (potentially) you can get from a manual espresso machine (providing you've mastered the learning curve).Does anyone have a view on this? I get the impression that when comparing B2C with espresso machines, they're comparing machines at a much higher price point - I'm not sure if it'd make much difference at £150-£200. I'm also wondering whether the espresso enthusiasts are, possibly, overstating the difference between the two machine types.Any advice greatly appreciated!!



It really depends - it took a little while for my B2C to "bed-in" and now it makes a great cup of coffee - however there is something satisfying and therapeutic (for me anyway) about grinding the beans manually and using an espresso machine. If it's convenience and consistency you are looking for I'd say go for this - don't doubt this can make a great cup of coffee - you can control grinding settings etc. This also has a seperate compartment for ground coffee so you can still grind your coffee before hand if you want. Hope this helps.



Agree with all the comments on using a local roaster. The price difference per cup is small but the taste is so much better

I have the above machine for nearly 5 years now, is a great machine for the money.

Good coffee at a great price
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Edited by: "fearona" 9th Mar

had this a few years. Great machine
Just bear in mind it is quite loud when in use.

Great machine. Just bear in mind that it's kind of noisy.

No quiet way to grind hard beans really.
One things for sure, you could never make someone a suprise cup of coffee.

Had 2, both broke within a year or so but Amazon gave me a full refund. Which was nice. Now have a Melitta which is very nice but prices have gone up 20% since Brexit vote.

Good when it works.

SpamJavelin

Had 2, both broke within a year or so but Amazon gave me a full refund. … Had 2, both broke within a year or so but Amazon gave me a full refund. Which was nice. Now have a Melitta which is very nice but prices have gone up 20% since Brexit vote.Good when it works.



Had mine for 3 years and it works as good as the day I got it. Sounds like you were very unlucky!

I've had mine a couple of years, love it, no problems.
You have to adjust the grinder after a while (which needs to be done whilst it's running) or the coffee gets weaker but it's easy to do.

watsbacker1

Agree with all the comments on using a local roaster. The price … Agree with all the comments on using a local roaster. The price difference per cup is small but the taste is so much better


Hmm, according to thecoffeeroasters.co.uk/pag…-uk, my local roaster nearest Swindon is someone called "rave-coffee" or something...
Edited by: "WilliamForty" 9th Mar
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