De'Longhi Magnifica Bean to Cup Coffee Machine Esam4000.b, 15 Bar - Black £219.99 @ Amazon
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De'Longhi Magnifica Bean to Cup Coffee Machine Esam4000.b, 15 Bar - Black £219.99 @ Amazon

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Cheapest its ever been on amazon

Cheapest its ever been on amazon



The ESAM2800 is £224.99 (free £10 voucher) at Argos. Looking at the manufactures website, seems to be the same spec.

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Cheapest its ever been on amazon



​Perhaps cheapest for black version but I bought the Silver version on 25 Mar 2014 for £199 from Amazon.

Anyway one of the best things I've ever bought, great machine for a decent price.

The ESAM2800 is £224.99 (free £10 voucher) at Argos. Looking at the m … The ESAM2800 is £224.99 (free £10 voucher) at Argos. Looking at the manufactures website, seems to be the same spec. http://www.delonghi.com/en-gb/products/coffee/coffee-makers/automatic-coffee-makers



Looks like ESAM2800 is £214.99 at Amazon - guessing it must be a slightly different spec.

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Looks like ESAM2800 is £214.99 at Amazon - guessing it must be a slightly … Looks like ESAM2800 is £214.99 at Amazon - guessing it must be a slightly different spec.https://www.amazon.co.uk/DeLonghi-Bean-Coffee-Machine-ESAM2800/dp/B00LB8FHJ4/



​it's the same dimensions and weight, and the controls look very similar, so could be the same spec.
Great bean to cup coffee machine. I have the silver one (esam4200s) and I bought it refurbished. Still going strong, makes good espresso, cappuccino, americano etc. Main thing is you just have to property maintain it.

Is the coffee hot enough?

Great bean to cup coffee machine. I have the silver one (esam4200s) and I … Great bean to cup coffee machine. I have the silver one (esam4200s) and I bought it refurbished. Still going strong, makes good espresso, cappuccino, americano etc. Main thing is you just have to property maintain it.


Seriously tempted by this...

Is the coffee hot enough?


Yes I think it's the right temperature. It shouldn't be boiling hot anyway as this kills the flavour of the beans. Apparently I did come across a cheat for this machine that allows you to adjust the temperature of the water. Just surprised it's not in the manual!
I find if you microwave the milk for a minute the coffee is perfect

Seriously tempted by this...


Just to say some experts on here would say this was a entry level machine but for the price and the quality of coffee it makes is say different. Check the reviews out on Amazon.
Got a similar model in black...18months in and still looking and working well....paid 215
Very nice machine. Lovely coffee. Have one and can't do without it anymore. I practically stopped buying Costa and Starbucks. Hot
Does this machine have a timer for when it makes coffee? Can you use standard size mugs?
I got the silver one of these last time It was on offer and Ive used it every day since. Its very satisfying to use. I make latte's and americano's with it mostly. Top tip.... pull the plastic cappuccino wand off and just use the thin one underneath for a nicer tighter milk froth.
The hardest thing is to find a coffee that you like. Ive settled on Costco's own brand (in the red bag) Its nice and strong and a dark roast.

Does this machine have a timer for when it makes coffee? Can you use … Does this machine have a timer for when it makes coffee? Can you use standard size mugs?



No, it doesnt have a timer. And even when its on max cup size it probably only half fills a mug. however, you fill the rest of the cup with either steamed milk or hot water , both using the steam/hot water wand.

I did come across a cheat for this machine that allows you to adjust the … I did come across a cheat for this machine that allows you to adjust the temperature of the water. Just surprised it's not in the manual!



It is in the manual now, though I set it to 3/4 as 4/4 tends to burn the coffee.

Just to say some experts on here would say this was a entry level machine … Just to say some experts on here would say this was a entry level machine but for the price and the quality of coffee it makes is say different. Check the reviews out on Amazon.


Yeah, it's not made of carbon fibre with a Shimano Unobtanium groupset and oxygen free speaker leads.
Very similar to the 4200 which is a highly rated machine for the price - this one lacks the fairly useless mug warmer and apparently has an inferior steam wand. Definitely measure up your worktop before buying one as they're surprisingly imposing! It will need regular descaling too, particularly if you live down south in a hard water area.

Love my bean-to-cup, definitely the best thing I've bought this year. I chose a Sage Barista as I wanted something more hands-on. Quite like Lavazza Rossa as a day-to-day bean but keen to try some more exotic varieties.


Edited by: "MBeeching" 4th Jun 2016
huge problem in this country - coffee shops serving black coffee at 99 degrees I assume because when they put milk in it which isn't hot enough, it drops. It should be drinkable instantly not having to wait 20 minutes. My Magnifica S model does a fine job with black coffee and milky ones too. Tip for you - use the water button to pre warm a cup if you think its too cold. And heat your milk before your make your coffee. Think this is a great price and a good brand. If you like coffee I don't know why you wouldn't have one of these instead of those god awful pod machines.
Just to say my opinion. I did try this before. I bought it for my love. She is the barist and she did try it for a week and I have to take it back. Coffee wasn't hot enough and she found other things that didn't like it. I hope that helps for someone.
I have the ESAM2800 machine. It has been back for descaling/mechanical repair, 4 times in around 15 months. It now appears to have been correctly fixed (fingers crossed).
I preheat the mugs with water boiled in a kettle.
If you want a mug full, there are two alternatives:
2 measures of weaker strength coffee in one mug, topped up with steamed milk.
1 measure of stronger strength coffee in one mug, topped up larger volume of steamed milk.
Edited by: "YOG" 4th Jun 2016

huge problem in this country - coffee shops serving black coffee at 99 … huge problem in this country - coffee shops serving black coffee at 99 degrees I assume because when they put milk in it which isn't hot enough, it drops. It should be drinkable instantly not having to wait 20 minutes. My Magnifica S model does a fine job with black coffee and milky ones too. Tip for you - use the water button to pre warm a cup if you think its too cold. And heat your milk before your make your coffee. Think this is a great price and a good brand. If you like coffee I don't know why you wouldn't have one of these instead of those god awful pod machines.



I find the opposite, espressos are not over hot, but get a cappuccino and it's like molten lava! The milk is "cooked" so long it's like UHT by the time they are finished.

When making at home rather than messing around heating milk separetly, I just heat the cups and the frothing jug by pouring in a small amount of boiling water, simply boil the kettle while the machine heats up. On my manual machine I heat the portafilter too by dipping it in, so it nothing overheats or comes out cold; the temp of the water & cups drops to about 75 or 80deg by the contact with the cold items.

Does this machine have a timer for when it makes coffee? Can you use … Does this machine have a timer for when it makes coffee? Can you use standard size mugs?



No Timer

Standard size mugs are fine
How do people store there beans? I would probably take quite a few days to go through a 227g bag and i heard roasted beans deteriorate quite quickly.

How do people store there beans? I would probably take quite a few days … How do people store there beans? I would probably take quite a few days to go through a 227g bag and i heard roasted beans deteriorate quite quickly.



I've been tempted by vacuum jars like the Osaka range, though admittedly I can't bring myself to spend the money.
A 250g bag usually lasts me a week so I'm not sure it's worth it.

The bean hopper on the machine won't be air tight anyway...

£15, not too bad because it should last a long time. Ive heard freezing is also possible, splitting the beans into small packages.

I've been tempted by vacuum jars like the Osaka range, though admittedly … I've been tempted by vacuum jars like the Osaka range, though admittedly I can't bring myself to spend the money.A 250g bag usually lasts me a week so I'm not sure it's worth it.The bean hopper on the machine won't be air tight anyway...


£15, not too bad because it should last a long time.



True, but it starts to add up when you start buying all the gear like coffee glasses and Monin syrups
Already treated myself to chocolate cookie, vanilla, gingerbread and hazelnut...

I find the opposite, espressos are not over hot, but get a cappuccino and … I find the opposite, espressos are not over hot, but get a cappuccino and it's like molten lava! The milk is "cooked" so long it's like UHT by the time they are finished.When making at home rather than messing around heating milk separetly, I just heat the cups and the frothing jug by pouring in a small amount of boiling water, simply boil the kettle while the machine heats up. On my manual machine I heat the portafilter too by dipping it in, so it nothing overheats or comes out cold; the temp of the water & cups drops to about 75 or 80deg by the contact with the cold items.



You're right to warm the cups, I just use the water that it pumps through on start up, but you're frothing jug should start properly cold like the milk.

Best advice, get a milk thermometer which you can first use to set the espresso temperature correctly, they seem to be set low from the factory, and then use it with a stainless jug to heat the milk to the right temp, I was surprised how far out my 'feels about right' method was.

Then, get some double wall glasses in a size/style you prefer, Bodum are about the best quality wise, and it will stay plenty hot enough for ages.

Edited by: "b1g1an" 4th Jun 2016

Yes I think it's the right temperature. It shouldn't be boiling hot … Yes I think it's the right temperature. It shouldn't be boiling hot anyway as this kills the flavour of the beans. Apparently I did come across a cheat for this machine that allows you to adjust the temperature of the water. Just surprised it's not in the manual!



It's not a cheat, it's one of the set up processes along with water hardness and is in most versions of the manuals, just missing from a few for some reason.
If I wanted to fill a flask up would I need to just make two or three cups? Or can I do it in one go?

Thanks

I find if you microwave the milk for a minute the coffee is perfect



I have owned one of these for four years and have done this as well, brilliant machine

​Perhaps cheapest for black version but I bought the Silver version on 25 … ​Perhaps cheapest for black version but I bought the Silver version on 25 Mar 2014 for £199 from Amazon.Anyway one of the best things I've ever bought, great machine for a decent price.




TOTALLY AGREE would not be without it now.....

If I wanted to fill a flask up would I need to just make two or three … If I wanted to fill a flask up would I need to just make two or three cups? Or can I do it in one go?Thanks




it can only do 2 cups max at one time
Edited by: "misterboumsong" 4th Jun 2016
I have this machine and its one of the best things I've bought - I got a bit lucky and got a new one for £160 last year but would pay RRP to replace it! I generally make a double shot in a mug and top up with water from kettle (have a temp controlled one) for an americano and its not a million miles off my Gagia but far less effort and mess!
I wish we could somehow trial these without committing to purchase..... It's a lot of money if you don't like it!
Is this the best there is for the money? I just can't quite make the purchase. Is this better than the ESAM2800?

Thanks guys
pre heat this, pre heat that is there a coffe machine which can do all? Any deals on higher spec ones?
Slightly related. I bought the ecam25, less than half the price of the delonghi site. The water can be regulated, but it is set not to burn the coffee, as this will result in making the coffee bitter. I drink a cappuccino with 3 shots in "lovely".
The beans bought from eBay taste good. Sold in air tight bags and last well.
Take the plunge, you will not regret it if you enjoy a nice coffee!!

Just to say some experts on here would say this was a entry level machine … Just to say some experts on here would say this was a entry level machine but for the price and the quality of coffee it makes is say different. Check the reviews out on Amazon.



I bought one of these for my daughter last year. Makes excellent coffee for a bean to cup machine. I was pleasantly surprised as I'm one of those sad sods who spends a ludicrous amount of money on single origin beans and roasts them myself before using a lever machine. 90% of the experience for 10% of the outlay.
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